Veronica Mars rage, Que Sera Sera glee, and drama miscellania

[dangermousie]

OK. I knew the Logan/Veronica spoilers for the finale for quite a while.

But sort of rereading them is making me see RED.

As in *stab stab die die stupid TPTB*



So, apparently there is a sex tape of V/Piz (I am not even going to address my issue with that hook-up) and as a result of Logan beating up whoever he thought was responsible, Veronica tells him he is out of her life for good. In the very last ep.

STAB

DIE

And I don’t mean Logan.

While Logan has done questionable or wrong things in the past, and not every quality of his is awesome, his protectiveness is actually One. Of. The. Best. Things. About. Him.

Hell, if someone had a videotape of said nature on me, I’d hope my friends would do something about it. I remember when I just started college, one of my suitemates got fed booze at a party and almost raped. Well, she was from a high school where a lot of people came to that college and her guy friends combed the campus for the bastard and when they found him, they didn’t exactly offer him a drink. And you know what? All the girls in the suite thought it was just fine.

Leaving that aside, Veronica looking down on Logan just BUGS THE HELL OUT OF ME. I think after what he’s repeatedly done for you, you should cut him some slack.

Let’s see.

1. He saved your life. At the risk of his own. When the crazy murderer-rapist was going to shoot you. (S2)

2. He saved you from being raped (and head shaved). (S3)

3. He saved you from having your face tattooed and mangled (best case scenario) or God knows what (worst case) (S2)

4. He got himself arrested so he could do something to the scum who tried to drug and rape you (S3)

5. Once you got together, he’s always had your back (contrast his reaction to his friends when they make nasty comments about V ‘if you have a problem with V you are dead to me’ to reaction of sweetie Duncan who let people pick on her the whole season).

6. He’s tried to be a good and open bf with you. Hey, he overlooked when you accused him of rape and murder and…

You know what? I am just going to stop. This is making me more and more pissed off.

No, I don’t think Logan is an ideal boyfriend. He has way too many issues and if V were my friend, I’d like her to date someone with a less messed-up background. Except. Veronica is hardly Hannah, is she? Any normal, well-adjusted guy should by rights run away screaming with her. And Logan would make a good boyfriend if he cares for you: he’ll love you and care for you and try his best. Veronica is a lousy girlfriend.

Seriously, the Veronica-Logan thing is the freaking abusive cycle all over again (he desperately tries to measure up and it’s never enough and he is always unworthy, and care is withheld unless he is perfect according to an arbitrary standard) and he’s had enough of this with his parents. Logan, get the hell out. Find Hannah. Or some completely other woman. Just seriously. Leave.

Someone on twop put it much better than I have:

If Veronica was my friend in real life - sure, I'd tell her to get as far away from someone like Logan as possible. But if this were real life, I would also caution my sons, my brothers, my male friends to stay as far away from Veronica as possible. She is not a nice, stable girl. She uses people. She holds people to incredibly high standards that she herself does not meet. She's reckless with her own safety without any thought to the people who love her. She hurts people by jumping to false conclusions. She is entirely willing to let Logan comfort her when the chips are down, but she bullies and judges him at every turn otherwise. She's self-righteous. She gets her friends in trouble. She illogically places blame. She takes and takes and takes from the people around her to solve her current case, and she never gives anything back. And no one calls her on it, nor does anyone's opinion of her suffer.


And yet my dramas never disappoint. On the other side of the spectrum, I just read some Que Sera Sera spoilers that made me GLEE. Angry makeouts are a fiction MUST. I really need to pick up watching that…Hmmm, I want to see if anyone is uling QSS in jdramas. If not, I should do that. But yes, it's GOOD.

I love this shot, so surreal:



More traditional mush:



Plot: The most romantic melodramas often make it appear as if a love story can be the end of the world for the people involved, but reality teaches us that is rarely the case. We fall in love, make great experiences and not so great ones, and then break up. All that is left is recover, and start again. The four characters in MBC's new miniseries Que Sera, Sera always put love way down their list of priorities exactly for that reason. A successful fashion designer (Yoon Ji Hye of No Mercy for the Rude), a reserved planning director (Lee Gyu Han of My Lovely Sam Soon), a spunky clerk (Jung Yoo Mi of Family Ties), and the most energetic of event planners (Shinhwa member Eric of Super Rookie). For them love is more like a passing joy than a life-time commitment. That is what they think until they find the spark showing them otherwise.

Did I mention the KISSING???? It's like they decided to compensate for lukewarm kissing in other dramas


OK. Want to know why I want to see this? Look and drool:







Ahem:













I clearly have a bottle fixation:


Smooooch:





Some QSS MVs:

Also. Glee! If in love…like them ep 1 subs are out!!! YES. And also, apparently fansubbers are working on Punch! a 2003 drama with Joo Jin Mo and Shin Min Ah, about a girl whose older brother was a boxer and a guy who accidentally killed him and he feels bad so he becomes her surrogate brother and they fall in lurve. YES.

Comments

[bodea.livejournal.com]

Lol, yeh, umm the kisses are soo a bonus. Plus, it's Eric Moon doing most of the kissing (and yeh, it's being uploaded). I'm am goign insane awaiting ep 10. I can't imagine where they're gonna take things. As for Veronica Mars, I can't even believe how horribly wrong the writers have made it go. I thought Logan blatantly breaking the law just so he could go to jail and give a beat down was so a plus! Who'd get mad over that? Ok, ok, going to jail, not a good thing, but still. And did you say Piz and V sex occurred? Omg, where's my bucket? PTB never cease to amaze me.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

TPTB of VM are insane.

And I cannot wait to watch more QSS!

[allbloomedout.livejournal.com]

I'm loving Que Sera Sera too!! I was hoping someone would blog on it. :) I'm up to episode 4 now. I'm dying for more subs! EEEE! I didn't know If In Love subs are out! Thanks!! I hope its softsubs since I already have the raw. Ahh! Punch sounds good!!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

It is so awesome. I haven't checked to see if it's softsubs or hardsubs yet.

[allbloomedout.livejournal.com]

It's softsubs! Hurray! I'm not sure if I have the right rip version of it though. Bon Fansubs is already working on Bambino! EEE!! I'm hoping ProDai and Bambino subs will be out this weekend! EEE Xmas feeling! :D I'm probably going crazy with exclamation points but I'm so excited! :P

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I can't wait for suuuuuubs!

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

The VM spoilers are...sigh...*oddly, this sounds like something happening to one of my hugest OTPs in comics ever* it's just...you know, sometimes i think they break up ships like this because tptb are just clueless about the Bad Boy appeal...

in other news, i'm watching ep 13 of meteor garden and i think xi men just almost reached Rui levels of love, which I didn'rt think was spossible.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

VM spoilers are...gosh, tptb are insane.

I adore Xi Men SO much. He is my second favorite character in MG (after Dao Ming Si). Heck, I even wrote Xi Men/Xiao You fanfic. So awesome (the character not my fanfic :D).

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

See, I think what a lot of TPTB's don't get about bad boy/impossible OTPs isn't so much that we EXPECT it to work out as that we WANT it to work out. Take Buffy-verse. I honestly think the reason we got Riley in S4-S5 was because it seemed that they thought it should be a ship that can work. Now, I'm one of the 5 people out there who liked Riley, and I actually LOVED Riley/Buffy before they actually got together(at which point, it seemed to be all about "look, she can have sex with this one! isn't that great for her?" and I was all "hey, it's it's going to be like this, lets just move on to Spkie/Buffy, ok?" But their early awkwardness and "i have this secret identity and must protect my crush from it" thing was cute.) but you have to wonder...the whole point of the first three seasons was that Buffy/Angel was absolutely impossible...we WANTED Buffy/Angel to be together and to find a way to work it out, but we didn't EXPECT it to work, and that was half of what kept us going...that we knew we wanted the impossible, but we kept rooting for it. Same thing with LoVe...we know that it likely could never happen in the real world, but that doesn't mean we want to give up watching them try for a much less interesting thing that can work.

*hopes the comparison makes sense*

Nothing will ever surpass Rui in the MG/HYD verse for me, but Xi Men and Si are trying very, very hard to change my mind.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Xi Men and Si are trying very, very hard to change my mind.

Aren't they awesome, dysfunctional woobies? GUUUUH. I like Soujiro and Domyouji but I adore Xi Men and Si.

The Buffy comparison makes sense. Healthy, possible, easy relationships usually make for boring fiction...

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

Oh yesyesyes...the dysfunctional woobies and dysfunctional OTPs are the best things ever...which is why FB, SDK(read any more yet? Curious about your reaction to vol 12) Basara and BOTI are about the best things ever created.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

BOTI is blade of the immortal, right?

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

Yup. They make the SDK characters look nice and normal. Not sure that it's your thing, but it's pure awesome(and the source of my obsession with fiction with swords and psychotic badboys)

[cosmicviolet.livejournal.com]

I thought they'd kind of been there, done that with the sex tape thing (it was a good story in MAD, but not something that really needs to recur)...and that there'd be one of Veronica and Piz turns my stomach. Not to mention how out of character for V it would be for something like that to exist, IMO.
I don't disagree with your thoughts on Logan and Veronica's treatment of him, but I'm hoping when the show ends that there is some kind of good resolution for them.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I hope there will be resolution but I am not sure if I see any.

The sex tape thing...so much of s3 is a less successful retread of past themes. And Veronica has been sexually humiliated enough. She does not need more.

[cosmicviolet.livejournal.com]

I hope there will be resolution but I am not sure if I see any.
I'm not sure I see any either - that's just me and my damned wishful thinking...

The sex tape thing...so much of s3 is a less successful retread of past themes.
Now that I think of it, you're right.

And Veronica has been sexually humiliated enough. She does not need more.
Yeah, exactly. It's like they can't think of other things to do to her that would hurt as much.

[fivil.livejournal.com]

Eric is hot, but that's nothing new. I had no idea QSS was going for a semi-realistic approach - def gotta check ep 1 out now! That other dude had a sleazy part in MNIKSS so I'm no super-fond of him but it looks good otherwise and sigh, Eric.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Eric is definitely hot. This is the first thing I've seen him in and I heartily approve.

Plus, I like this, because while hardly an angst fest it's more dramatic than something as purely wacky as WYH :)

[carviangli.livejournal.com]

OMG! I just read your spoilers for the finale *stabs vm*
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
Geez. What a biatch. I mean Logan always protects her and she just keeps hurting him over and over again. Damn. I love Logan and the crap vm puts him through is pissing me off. Logan should seriously find someone who respects him. Thank god vm is going to be taken off air- it's atrocious.
Anyway on a happier note:
BAMBINO EP 1 RAW IS OUT...I started dl it b4 I went to skewl and it's 60% done...which is good. I watched Proposal Daisusuken and it is awesome. Now only if I understood Japanese. I am desperately checking d-addicts for subs every minute.
BTW you have convinced to me to add QSS to the *Evergrowing* long list of dramas I'm watching. I'm on ep 6 of WYH, 4 of Hello! Miss, 1 of Proposal Daisusuken and 1 of Liar Game (which is quite cute) and now I have to add this. Heh. I need too take a break soon :)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

The VM thing is pissing me off. STABS.

How is Bambino? Has it dl yet? I am going to be waiting for subs with it and ProDai even though it's killing me...

[carviangli.livejournal.com]

Oh I know I commented just minutes ago but I JUST finished watching that first mv and....AMAZING...I love that MV...geez so much kissing and there hasn't been that many episodes ...will check it out for sure now...thanks heaps :)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

You totally should! *jumps up and down* I need more people to squee with...

[magalamb.livejournal.com]

Um. Ew. Ew. Ew. Ew. Ew. ad infinitum.

V/Piz SEX?! That is just so... WRONG.

V. Mars, I might possibly never forgive you. I was planning on sticking it out 'til the end of this season, but now? No freakin' way.

Also, Rob Thomas and crew? Logan is the reason why many people kept on watching!

*is sad*

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

That just pisses me off SO MUCH. VM? What is wrong with you?

[aoimidori.livejournal.com]

when i first heard about the sex tape? i felt sick. of all the ways to end the show (and i still think it's ending, despite recent rumours that its actually been renewed) they end it with an motw involving a sex tape of piz and veronica?!?!?!?! that's just NOT. EFFING. RIGHT. *shakes head*

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Word. ARGH.

[vierran45.livejournal.com]

Ok, those VM spoilers (I've been avoiding spoilers for S3, but this time I just had to check it out) are making more certain than ever that I'm going to ignore the fact that there even was a third season to this and just think that it ended with S2. EEUUGH!

QSS looks very good. I might have time for a drama or two in my schedule (Hah! Who am I kidding :P.), though I'm already planning on following the three big new jdramas (LG, ProDai and Bambino) that are currently airing. Hmm, naah, maybe I'll add WYH to my list instead, because so many people seem to like it.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I like to pretend there is no third season too. I like QSS better but then I like more serious ones more :)

[lenabean.livejournal.com]

Second MV of QSS that you posted looks SO GOOD.

*drools*

Once I turn in my assignments and come back from a foreign country, am totally looking into it. Hope there are subs out for this, or I suppose I can always continue WYH....

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

The subs are out for the first three eps. SO GOOOOOD.

And have an awesome trip!