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I have gone insane. I am staying past 3am, looking for shippy vids for a couple for which I haven't even seen the drama yet, Vladimir/Anna in Bednaya Nastya. OMG.

But they are gorgeous, and have chemistry, and grew up together and he was resentful because his dad liked her and not him, and she is a serf and he is a nobleman, so it can't be but he is mad for her and she isn't sure and OMG so much repression and passion and HOTNESS.

And if this wasn't enough, this clip killed me. This is the clip of our heroine going into hero's bedroom to prevent him from fighting duel with his best friend. Oddly, with Finnish subtitles. LOL, very self-sacrificial of her. Need to find hotties willing to fight duels for me and then sneak into their bedrooms :)



OMG, 'he is SO HOT' is the only coherent thought left to me.

In case you don't speak Finnish or Russian, the dialogue goes as follows:


Him: Am I dreaming? Why did you come? It's not as if you love me. I know that, so why sacrifice your honor [by coming to his bedroom at night and half stripping, I assume. I wanna sacrifice now! :P]. I am afraid that the payment you'd be making is too much.
She: *sits on bed*
He: What do you want in exhange for this night? [Heeee, definitely weakening resistance. Girl, I hope you brought not-yet-invented birth control]
She: Refuse to fight the duel.
He: You want me to refuse to fight? Are you really that concerned about me living? I am very touched but don't worry.
She: Vladimir, but you might get crippled and lose your friend.
He: I don't want to kill anyone, and even less to die myself. But what can I do, there is no way out.
She: Yes, there is.
He: Who are you more concerned about?
She: Both of you. You won't be able to fire at each other.
He: Why not? I am ready to fire.
She: There won't be a duel. And there won't be jealousy, either. I promise. [I'd feel sorrier for you if he wasn't so HOT and you didn't have a thing for him. Not much of a sacrifice :P]
He: Michael won't leave you.
She: He will. As soon as he finds out we are together. I'll tell him we are. He'll believe me. I'll be with you, for the rest of my life. Until you tell me to leave.
He: If you knew how much I dreamed of hearing you say these words.
She: You don't believe me?
He: (after shrugging) How can I know that being with me, you won't think about Michael [Young man, she is gorgeous. You are mad for her. She is in a FREAKING nightgown in your room at night, offering herself for keeps. Seriously, stop quibbling. If she thinks of someone else, that's more than you get otherwise, huh, oh-tortured-romance-hero!]
He: All my life. All my life belongs only to you. Only if you would be near [Note: through this whole conversation he has been using the formal/proper form of 'you' ('vy') but with that last phrase he switched to the intimate 'ty'. *swooooooooon*]
*smoochies, and then he gently puts her aside*
She: What else (can you want)? I came to you myself.
He: I want to hear words from you.
She: Which words?
He: Do you love me? [awwwwwww] Tell me, do you love me? Please tell me.
She: *is silent*
He: *releases her gently* Please leave. [OMG I am dead]
*she walks off*
He: Leave. The duel is going to go on in two days, as we planned.

Hell, I watch dramas from every other country, why not those in my native tongue?

Date: 2007-08-26 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
You are right, great chemistry. Especially in the scene where he holds her face right before he kisses her.

At first I was kinda meh because he looks so boyish while she has what I tend to associate with ho makeup, very doll-ish, but especially he is very good and angsty.

Date: 2007-08-26 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
He looks a little like Robert Sean Leonard ;)

he is very good and angsty.

It's after 4am here, and I spent all this time looking at youtube clips of the otp and swooning (I might put up translations for the heck of it, I find it relaxing) and he definitely does a lot of angsty stuff. I guess being friends in childhood but then acting as if you hate her first because your Dad prefers her to you and then because you love her and you are all about control, is going to give you a tough hurdle to overcome when it comes to winning her over :)

Her make-up is pretty standard for these things. No matter which period stuff is set in, they are all going to be dolled up with more make-up than an 80s bit tv player.

Especially in the scene where he holds her face right before he kisses her.

I am such a sucker for that sort of thing. Another thing I like is his voice. It's low but also, he sounds cultured (it's hrd to explain, but he does) which is awesome. I do wonder if it was one of those 'they decided to make these two the otp as opposed to her and the other guy because of chemistry.'

She has got to be the best living, made-up serf in history.

Date: 2007-08-26 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
No matter which period stuff is set in, they are all going to be dolled up with more make-up than an 80s bit tv player.

Sigh. Word.

Random: I know you hate soaps, but one day I would totally love to link you some mvids of the various most famous soap couples (the ones praised for their chemistry) and have you tell me which ones would pass the chemistry test with you :)

Date: 2007-08-26 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
That would actually be fun!

And I think every TV actress on dramas or soaps is stuck in the 80s for good :)

Date: 2007-08-26 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
I know those poor things!

I guess I just started thinking about it since you mentioned the importance of kisses and I went "Yeah, soaps, that thing where people *eat* each other".

Downside being I'm actually not a huge fan of any soap couple in particular, so I wouldn't know which videos are actually *good*.

Sonny and Brenda were actually pretty infamous for their supposedly scorching chemistry (they were a bit before my time, but I do love this kiss where he grabs her, raises her up and walks her against the wall to kiss her, it's near the ned of the mvid). Though if you like the tall guy/short gal thing, maybe Brenda and Jax will be more to your liking. Come on, settle one of the oldest soap opera wars, who has the better chem :D

Personally, I always had a soft spot for Carly and Lorenzo, though that might just have been the actress.

But yeah, most famous couples, Luke and Laura (heavy, heavy original 80s), Bo and Hope (again, heavy 80s), there are tons more that I'm forgetting because I haven't had much sleep.

Date: 2007-08-26 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
Let's see:

Brooke and Deacon (more racy than supercouple).

Robin and Jason (he has brain damage, she has Aids; that's soap opera love to you)

Simon and Katie (I marry you because you are Australian and want to stay in the country)

Zander and Emily (some very nice teenage love)


80s soaps:

Luke and Laura (the infamous "I raped you because I thought I was dying and then they extended my contract and we ended up as a supercouple")

Cruz and Eden

Date: 2007-08-26 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thanks! I have to run now but will definitely check out and opine :)

Date: 2007-08-26 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
Robert Sean Leonard? The guy from House?

Date: 2007-08-26 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Is he? I don't watch House so no idea. He was (when much younger) in Much Ado About Nothing and Dead Poets Society so I was thinking that era, a little older :)

Date: 2007-08-26 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
:)

Yepp he is on House now. It was soooo freaky to watch Much Ado About Nothing now that I'm used to him being Wilson on House.

Date: 2007-08-26 08:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
WE HAVE BOLLYWOOD TOMORROW YO WE HAVE TO GO TO SLEEP









Ah, hell. We can take shifts watching the screen while the other naps. ;)

Date: 2007-08-26 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I am about to go to bed but present Russian hotties trump future Indian ones so it's hard :)

Date: 2007-08-26 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
We are torn in so many (hot) directions!

We suffer. Oh, how we suffer.

Date: 2007-08-26 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Suddenly the Catholic idea of virtue of suffering doesn't seem so bad.

Date: 2007-08-26 08:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
I'm up for Purgatory if Oguri Shun is there. All I'm sayin'.

Date: 2007-08-26 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
LOL. He is likely to be unbaptized, so your chances are goooood.

Date: 2007-08-26 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
... and dude, I did not know Russian was that sexy. *revises priorities*

Date: 2007-08-26 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Russian is very very sexy. And has seventeen billion times more endearments than English :)

Heh, if you ever want to check any of this out, I am getting my DVDs in soooooon :P

Date: 2007-08-26 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
I knew the endearments thing from my Russian Lit courses. ;) But groooowl, never knew spoken was so hot. The one Russian boy to crush on me obviously lacked skillz.

Oh, hey, you know I'm your DVD whore. ;) Though I'd like to borrow BSG and Farscape first...

Date: 2007-08-26 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
You can definitely borrow those (BSG and FS).

I think the Russian dvds won't have subs but if you want a friendly translator :P

I really miss not being able to sweet-talk to Andrew in Russian. I just find it a lot more flexible as a language, if it makes sense, in shades of endearments/meanings. Less words though.

Date: 2007-08-26 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
Awww, that's sweet. I definitely hear you on the flexibility of endearments -- actually, English is a tad difficult to sweet-talk in. It all come off as sacchrine or self-depreceating.

Spell check keeps scolding me, which is a sure sign I need to sleep. ;P Ta!

Date: 2007-08-26 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Nighty-night!

Yup, if I translate certain phrases that sound nice but normal in Russian they will come across as super cloying in English.

forgot to say

Date: 2007-08-26 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
Less words though.

I was persuaded by many ESL-ers in China that English isn't hard to learn, per se, but it is a bitch to master. Apparently it has the biggest vocab bank, and it just keeps growing. They were like, "can you bitches freakin' slow down, please?"

Especially when it came to slang. They were all, can we say this word? And I'd have to go into yeah, sure, but only if you were being ironic since that word hasn't really been popular since 1985, though it was resurrected into hipster cool since the conflagaration of blah blah blah. And then they would beat me in a rage. An ESL rage.

Date: 2007-08-26 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
GOD THAT WAS A HOT KISS WHEN HE THEN JUST GRABBED HER AND KEPT KISSING THE CORNERS OF HER MOUTH AAAAAAAAAAAAAH

*iz dead*

Date: 2007-08-26 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
OMG, I totally fainted. Or almost else I would not be typing.

Did I mention that I found another clip where he is smiling (with dimples) and gives her a kitten? Here:

Basically, I am too lazy to do a word for word translation but he finds a stray and is saying sweet things to it, and then she comes in and asks him what he will do with it and he deadpans 'drown it' (while still caressing it) and she is 'drown?' and he says 'I'll call him [bad guy's name] and drown it.'

And then they reminisce about the cat she used to have when little and how he helped her care for it and how it was huge and unwieldy and then she asks if she can have the kitten. Such cuteness shall be illegal:

Date: 2007-08-26 08:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
Wheeee kittens! And Russian has always been totally sexy.

Date: 2007-08-26 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Seriously, they should have just given the guy a sticker with 'woobie' on it and be done :)

Date: 2007-08-26 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yavannie77.livejournal.com
Hey, I've been hooked on Bednaya Nastya already for two summers! The reason there are Finnish subtitles is, of course, that the clips are from our channel 4, which airs the telenovela every weekday. I've posted about this show before, just not with clips or anything.

Oh, and if it's angst you're looking for in your OTP's, wait till Anna and Vladimir get to the point where the honour of Lisa Dolgorukaja is in question... (That's where the series is here, at the moment.)

But my favourite isn't Vladimir, it's the future Tsar Alexandr. Yum! Too bad his "OTP", the princess he's going to have to marry, isn't right for him at all. (Going to have to marry = historically correct wife-to-be, that is.)

Date: 2007-08-26 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Going to have to marry = historically correct wife-to-be, that is

Yea, but back then everyone kept mistresses so Natalya can be his official mistress :)

Anna and Vladimir get to the point where the honour of Lisa Dolgorukaja is in question... (That's where the series is here, at the moment.)


They do seem to be swimming in angst, which is a huge huge thing for me. I just watched that bit where she stopped the duel between him and his best friend. *swoooooon*

Date: 2007-08-26 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yavannie77.livejournal.com
Sure, Alexandr's historically correct mistress (they had several children together, too) was Catherine Dolgorukova and that's what keeps me interested in Natalya's story. Will the story somehow find a Dolgorukov heiress to stir things up even more or will Natalya Repnina be the one they'll make his mistress after all?

That duel was shown here in June - I checked my archives, I posted about it (and the bed scene) on the 6th. ;)

Date: 2007-08-27 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thanks!

'Dolgorukov' last name always cracks me up because it literally means 'someone who has long arms.'

Re: duel. I just read your post. LOL. Two eps? What did they do, move in extra slow motion?? Backwards?

Date: 2007-08-26 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
All I have to say is that 2 peoplke would benefit from being locked up for a week with nothing but food, water, and a bed.

And that she has a teeny head as compared to his hands. *possibly a kink*

Date: 2007-08-26 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
2 peoplke would benefit from being locked up for a week with nothing but food, water, and a bed.

I assume they are going to get there eventually, as he's been stripped of his military rank (for fighting the Crown Prince in a duel, I think) and his place is in the country and there isn't much to do there.

If he doesn't expire of UST first. Seriously. Man knows his angsty staring.

And that she has a teeny head as compared to his hands. *possibly a kink*

Oh yes, I have that too. I think it's an extension of a short girl/tall guy kink :)

Date: 2007-08-26 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
If he doesn't expire of UST first. Seriously. Man knows his angsty staring.

I think dramas and manga have convinced me that it is impossible to to expire of UST and suppressed hormones. Lets face it, in most dramas(especially wuxia...) handholding may as well be making out, a hug is one step away from sex and cuddling and a nuzzle is basically a sex-a-thon.


Oh yes, I have that too. I think it's an extension of a short girl/tall guy kink :)

Oh yes, definately. Gives the impression that he's all big and strong and she's all teeny and delicate.

Date: 2007-08-27 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Lets face it, in most dramas(especially wuxia...) handholding may as well be making out, a hug is one step away from sex and cuddling and a nuzzle is basically a sex-a-thon.


LOL, so true. Do you think they reproduced asexually, by budding :)

Oh yes, definately. Gives the impression that he's all big and strong and she's all teeny and delicate.

Exactly. Part of whole 'my big strong man will protect meeeee'

Date: 2007-08-27 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Yes, I do think that's how they reproduced. There's one cdrama couple who I SWEAR never got any further than hugging in a pavillion, and she got pregnant...



Exactly. Part of whole 'my big strong man will protect meeeee'

Yes, you look at the hands and think about how they could hold a sword or a knife or a gun or just make a fist and feel all nice and safe.

Incidentally, I blame you for the post I just finished that just ate 3 hours of my life.

Date: 2007-08-27 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Ooooh, which post? Off to look!

Date: 2007-08-26 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raincitygirl.livejournal.com
Huh. The things you lwearn from your flist. Before today, I'd never realised that 19th century Russia ran to Blondissima and nude lip gloss.

Date: 2007-08-26 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Didn't you know that the 80s extend their influence far and wide back through the reaches of time and space?

Not only that, but she is wearing this much make-up in the middle of the night!

Did I mention that I am still trying to figure out the name of this, as it's called 'Poor Nastya' but there is no one named Nastya in this. The heroine's name is Anna, and that is her full name, not Anastasya, for which Nastya is a diminutive. I am very puzzled.

Date: 2007-08-26 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yavannie77.livejournal.com
That refers to the mysterious "Anastasia", who is the illegitimate daughter of a serf called Marfa and the noble lord Dolgoruk. (Sorry if I mistreat the Russian names here, I'm not quite sure how the male and female names would go properly, since I don't know any Russian.)

Here in Finland the series is at a point where we are very close to finding out who Anastasia is (there is another serf girl, Polina, who has claimed to be Anastasia, but apparently isn't). It might be Anna. I've thought so from the beginning. But I could be wrong.

Anyhow, there is a whole angsty drama behind Anastasia's story, her being taken away from her mother as a newborn baby by a local healer lady Sytsiha, who now (very conveniently) has an amnesia and so on. Supposedly the only thing that could tell who Anastasia is was a blanket embroidered with the letter A. Polina had it, but the truth remains unclear and I'd better not try to explain more of the story, because it's so tangled up. You'll get the hang of it when you get to watch it.

Date: 2007-08-27 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thanks! Really interesting!

Date: 2007-08-26 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fivil.livejournal.com
So Finland has given us Russian dramas on TV, as well as Venezualan (sp?) telenovelas and some random other similar South-American shows, and of course Ugly Betty. Now they really ought to get some kdramas on Finnish TV. Wouldn't mind a rewatch of Goong with Finnish subs. ;)

Date: 2007-08-27 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I find it so interesting that most places other than North America do the drama/telenovela package (i.e. finite storylines). I really prefer that mode.

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