Cross-dressing, you are doing it wrong!

[dangermousie]

I randomly skimmed the drama version of Butterfly Lovers (which I am not watching. Not even my Peter Ho obsesion can make me watch a 40 ep drama about scholars, especially when it's partially subbed and those partial subs are very Engrishy) and to my total shock, this is BL's idea of a woman successfully cross-dressing as a man:




Did I mention she's also barely 5ft tall, doesn't seem to have bound her breasts and didn't bother lowering her voice? And yet somehow every man in 100mi radius is fooled, including Peter Ho - he is supposed to be a genius scholar but if he can't tell this is a woman, I think he has severe mental and developmental problems.

Not putting on lipstick apparently automatically makes you a man. I've been a man most of my life it seems, horrors!

Ah, so much fail.

Comments

[karened.livejournal.com]

haha, don't get me started on obvious cross-dressing failures. And on masked heroes whose identity is so obvious to all viewers.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I am still loling about Forbidden Love where KTH's disguise wa s apiece of see through cloth.

[moraitika1.livejournal.com]

is it me or she has some cocoa lipstick?or gloss?
maaaaan I love cross-dressers (no matter the sex) but here she is Look I'm pretty, I'm so pretty (gusfrabaaaaaaaaa I can't take it this time)

or Love at first fight she has as much mascara as a drag... and of course boobs at... first sight

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yes, she does.

Boobs at first sight? Ahahahahahhahahaah

[arabesque05.livejournal.com]

Haha, they are rather unrealistic about the cross-dressing (though it's a pretty common trend in cdramas. Huang Rong in LOCH, depending on the version, cross-dressed to various degrees of verisimilitude; it's actually lampshaded in Mulan (2008). A friend points out to Mulan (played by Zhao Wei): "Aren't your eyes ridiculously large for a guy?" lol but they are)

In his defense, Liang Shanbo (Peter Ho) is scholarly, but also seriously oblivious about real life. Seriously the last person to get it: much of the humor of the series comes from Zhu Yingtai dropping completely unsubtle hints about I'm a girl! I'm a girl! Look look look look look I'm a girl and doing everything short of explicitly proposing marriage to him, and Liang Shanbo just not getting it. They see a pair of ducks, and Yingtai is like: "Wouldn't it be nice if we could be like the ducks? Mated forever? :< :< :<" And Shanbo is very pleasantly: "Oh, Yingtai. One of us would have to be female; we can't be like the ducks. I still love you, anyway. :D :D :D"

Quite a few people who spend any extended time with Yingtai at school figures it out pretty soon, including Shanbo's main love rival.

(For the lol factor, and if you're interested in the Butterfly Lovers legend, you can check out the '94 version. It's Peter Ho's first movie role, wherein he plays a gay classmate in love with Liang Shanbo. Apparently, the director didn't tell PH that the character was in love with Liang Shanbo: 'Just look into that corner, and pretend that the girl of your dreams is standing there. Look at that corner with all your love. Okay?' and PH didn't find out that the 'corner' was the main male lead until he went back to Canada and watched the movie in the theaters with all his university friends. It makes him a little wary about guys hitting on him, these days; which is unfortunate, because that's like the entirety of his 3 Kingdoms publicity campaign interviews: male comedians dressing up at Diaochan and hitting on Peter Ho.)

Ahhh, tldr.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

OMG, the movie thing sounds hilarious. I can only imagine. Poor guy. LOLOLOLOLOL.

male comedians dressing up at Diaochan and hitting on Peter Ho.)



Is it wrong that I sort of want to see that? :P

[arabesque05.livejournal.com]

One of the better ones where it's not just Peter trying (and failing) to look manfully unafraid would be this one (unfortunately, the quality isn't great). It starts at around the eleventh minute. Brief translation:

At around 11:03:

Announcer: All right, then this next Diaochan, I think--I personally think--I think she's pretty overwhelming, very passionate. This Diaochan, her passion mainly springs from her very distinctive manner of expression. So, following, I'll hand it over to her, all right?
Peter: All right.
(Diaochan places hand on Peter's shoulder)
Peter: This Diaochan is kind of rude/mannerless.
Diaochan: Little Lu.
(Caption on Peter read: "Sees a Demon")
Diaochan: Eh? Eh? He's pretending like he doesn't recognize me! You're pretending like you don't recognize me?
Peter: Um, auntie, you were about to go buy fruits, right? You--you got the wrong person.
Diaochan: I am Diaochan.
Peter: You...are....--
Diaochan: I really am Diaochan. Because my personality is very cunning/picky (it's a play on homonyms of "Diao") and my mouth is very gluttonous (play on homonym of "Chan"), and so people call me "Diaochan".
Diaochan: Little Lu.
Peter (choking it out): Chanchan (the affectionate diminutive of her name)
(11:55)
Diaochan: Oh, Little Lu--you're, you're so stylish (but specifically, a Western sort of fashionable; literally, it means "Western air") these days. You're not wearing your period clothes!
Peter: Diaochan--you...when did you stop shaving your beard? It grew out again.
Diaochan: I have a request. You have to look me in the eyes (ie, do essentially an eye-fucking scene) with me for ten seconds.
(countdown)
Diaochan: Oh my~! Oh my~! He really is formidable/great! Little wonder other people say "Among men, Lu Bu; among horses, Red Hare"! He can withstand (me)! My goodness. So many men, when they see me, they can't withstand (me). He can withstand me!
(12:35)

Meanwhile, this Diaochan is speaks with a rather...unrefined accent, and it's just a great hilarious to Chenhao's very proper Mandarin. And Peter, looking completely exhausted at the end. 8D

He actually gives some really great interviews. The ones he did for Sophie's Revenge are excellent, because the female host keeps cooing about how adorable he is, and Zhang Ziyi and Fan Bingbing sort of gleefully poke at him about his ex-girlfriends. His experiences in dating are seriously the stuff of idol dramas.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Thanks. LOLOLOLOL

His experiences in dating are seriously the stuff of idol dramas.


He likes poor but plucky girls who look like Rainie Yang? :P

[arabesque05.livejournal.com]

Ahahaha. :D No, apparently, with his first girlfriend, he ran into her at a restaurant, literally, and knocked both of them to the ground (and, haha, lost his heart in the process). But he only knew her last name when he left; so he pined and moped for a month; eventually, he went through the Toronto phonebook and called every family with that last name (it was a very common Chinese last name) for about five hours, and got cursed at as a crazy person for most of those calls.

Eventually, he did find her, all: "Do you remember a boy who knocked you to the ground at so-and-so restaurant about a month ago? And then he helped you up?" And she said, "I remember". And as he narrates: "Then...our flower bloomed ♥".

It's sweet in a super sketchy way. As per idol dramas. :D

Totally OT

[dante-levine.livejournal.com]

OK so why did Ah Da Mo break up with Sa Ran? Is it the class difference thing? Or was he afraid of how intense his feelings for her are? I'm dying and need some one(s) to discuss this with. Tag you're it! Or I could go to Soompi and dig around for a forum but that's really impersonal, dontcha think? :D

Re: Totally OT

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

No idea. I hope there is a secret or something because otherwise that just makes him a jerk who I do not ever want with saran.

[meganbmoore.livejournal.com]

Compared to Eva Huang and Crystal Liu's goes at it (I didn't even realize the latter was crossdressing at first) it's positively realistic.

The closest to realistic I've encountered is in Paladins in Troubled Times. Where, amusingly enough, she isn't actually crossdressing, just wearing masculine attire for comfort/practicality on the road and in fights.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I still remember my first experience with period drama crossdressing - Damo. I didn't even realize she was supposed to be a boy at first and was wondering why everyone was referring to her as 'he.'

[happahaole.livejournal.com]

Peter Ho sort of looks like a cross-dresser himself in that picture XD

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

LOLOLOL. Now that would be a drama I'd enjoy watching.

[lady-wu.livejournal.com]

I was going to say that too!

After seeing Peter Ho in all those tough-boy fighter roles, it's hard to take him seriously as the scholarly Liang Shanbo. *HE* looks like he's got lip gloss on, too. :P

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I think their lipsticks actually match, LOL.

And agreed - I kept expecting him to bust out a sword and start slaying :P

[aliaspiral.livejournal.com]

of course, the movie of Butterfly Lovers doesn't do much better with the crossdressing as a boy. She binds her boobs, but wow, she's more obviously a girl than Mizuki is!

[misctalk.livejournal.com]

It was more of an action film. For what it's worth, I still enjoyed the change.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yeah. But I didn't watch the movie for her :P

[aliaspiral.livejournal.com]

well, of COURSE not. there were much more important things to watch for!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Exactly. I'd happily cross-dress to get to him.

[your-insomnia.livejournal.com]

Yeah the actress is ridiculously pretty and girly. I checked out the first episode just because I usually fall for cross-dressing dramas but man, that was bad =/ I totally didn't understand how her dad was like "oh! Ok, you don't want to marry. Well, cross-dressing as a boy and trespassing to study in an all boys school is good too". Maybe it was because of the terrible subs but nothing made sense in that first episode. Although, I kind of want to see Peter Ho's character being oblivious to the heroine's advances. Argh, must force self to stay away from this train wreck.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Heaven and Earth are planning to sub this with better subs. I hope they do because the current subs are insane.

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