Behind a cut, in case anyone is a complete spoiler-phobe. IMO it doesn't give anything away. OMG. It's just for me. It's Anakin as Vader. Before The Helmet. And he is crying. Thank you George!
I think a remorseful Sith is worth comforting. Anakin seems like he was manipulated and tricked into his own downfall. A great deal of it had to do with him being pig headed and cocky and the rest has to do with him just not being as devious minded as Palpatine was.
He just looks like he needs someone's shoulder to cry on in that picture.
True. *sniff* Anakin does strike me as someone who is so easy to read. He himself is very forthright and open (even as Vader) and I don't think he realized that there are some other there (i.e. Palpatine) who are that devious.
Anakin is extremely earnest and very open about his feelings. He wouldn't express himself as impulsively or as emotionally as he does if he weren't. Obi Wan was the more calculating and controlled of the two.
I think that Anakin had a tendency to do the exact opposite of what Obi Wan wanted simply to be spiteful since they were both extremely strong willed men.
True. They are about the worst student/teacher pairing I can think of. I think if they didn't follow the "Kill Liam" principle, and Qui-Gon could have trained him, Palpatine would never have gotten the chance to step in.
Guuuuuuh. Icon....I know I've seen it before, but Guuuuuuuh.
Qui Gon would have been much more ideal as a master for Anakin simply because he didn't take himself so seriously and had a way of manipulating his student into doing what he wanted them to do without the student knowing. Obi Wan is much more "my way or the highway" and Anakin seems to resent that treatment. Obi Wan would have been great with a more pliable student, but with someone as filled with his own self importance as Anakin is, it didn't work too well. Part of it has to do with how young Obi Wan was when he became a master and how old Anakin was when he became a student. It was just an accident waiting to happen.
Qui Gon would have kicked Palpatine's butt.
I think "he's got pecs!" every time I see my icon.
I think "he's got pecs!" every time I see my icon.
That's a bit more coherent than what I think.
I do agree with your write-up. And of course, Qui Gon was really much more openly warm and affectionate which is exactly what Anakin (who was not brought up in the Temple but with a very loving mother) needs. There is no doubt for the viewer that Obi Wan loves and cares for Anakin, but since he is very undemonstrative and "by the book" Anakin can't tell that.
I think Anakin and Obi-Wan's relationship even started out wrong since Obi-Wan seemed to very much resent what he took to be Anakin's stealing his master's affections. Obi-Wan couldn't have been more than his early twenties at that point and obviously resented his father figure suddenly seeming to abandon him for a little boy.
Obi-Wan obviously cares a great deal for Anakin, he just doesn't know what to do with him.
And of course it's perfectly understandable reaction on Obi Wan's part.
That's why the story is so interesting: everyone's reactions are perfectly natural and understandable but combined they lead to the fall of the Republic, and Darth Vader.
Wow, that's quite a shot. That almost made me cry with him. So guaranteed that I am going to sob at this movie. *hugs him tightly*... Why do fictional characters make me so sad?!?! I'm such a fangirl! ;)
They are going to be carting me out of ROTS on a stretcher lined with boxes of Kleenex. And the sad thing is, I'm such a fangril that when I cry, I don't even care what anyone thinks. *giggles*
Hey, as long as it's not a ROTK level sob fest (start at the parting in Grey Havens, continue through ALL the credits and more), I'll be OK. But as an excuse, by the time RotK was over, I did just spend 12+ hours in a theater watching LotR.
Hopefully this time it will be just a little lady-like sniffing, or even merely reveling in angst.
Nothing will ever match my sob level at ROTK. Um, start at the opening credits and continue through the whole movie. Seriously. I cried through the entire thing. I'm not even sure how I saw any of it on opening night!
I don't trust meself at ROTS - it's the end. That in and of itself makes me sad. *shakes head at her own patheticness* ;)
Thank you! I actually made this one myself, which I rarely do because I'm not very good at it. I was in a "mood" when I saw the picture though, and it pleaded with me to be inconized. ;) I would cry if my husband turned to Teh Evil - especially if that husband looked like Hayden.
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Date: 2005-03-22 07:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-03-22 07:37 pm (UTC)to hug him, jump him or yell at him
How about yell at him, then hug him, then jump him :D
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Date: 2005-03-22 07:55 pm (UTC)He just looks like he needs someone's shoulder to cry on in that picture.
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Date: 2005-03-22 08:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-03-22 08:33 pm (UTC)I think that Anakin had a tendency to do the exact opposite of what Obi Wan wanted simply to be spiteful since they were both extremely strong willed men.
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Date: 2005-03-22 08:35 pm (UTC)Guuuuuuh. Icon....I know I've seen it before, but Guuuuuuuh.
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Date: 2005-03-22 08:51 pm (UTC)Qui Gon would have kicked Palpatine's butt.
I think "he's got pecs!" every time I see my icon.
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Date: 2005-03-22 09:15 pm (UTC)That's a bit more coherent than what I think.
I do agree with your write-up. And of course, Qui Gon was really much more openly warm and affectionate which is exactly what Anakin (who was not brought up in the Temple but with a very loving mother) needs. There is no doubt for the viewer that Obi Wan loves and cares for Anakin, but since he is very undemonstrative and "by the book" Anakin can't tell that.
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Date: 2005-03-22 11:05 pm (UTC)Obi-Wan obviously cares a great deal for Anakin, he just doesn't know what to do with him.
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Date: 2005-03-23 01:06 am (UTC)And of course it's perfectly understandable reaction on Obi Wan's part.
That's why the story is so interesting: everyone's reactions are perfectly natural and understandable but combined they lead to the fall of the Republic, and Darth Vader.
Fangirly pile of goo
Date: 2005-03-22 08:32 pm (UTC)Re: Fangirly pile of goo
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Date: 2005-03-22 10:04 pm (UTC)Yeah, I cry at movies pretty easily, so this might be embarassing.
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Date: 2005-03-22 10:11 pm (UTC)Hopefully this time it will be just a little lady-like sniffing, or even merely reveling in angst.
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Date: 2005-03-22 10:16 pm (UTC)I don't trust meself at ROTS - it's the end. That in and of itself makes me sad. *shakes head at her own patheticness* ;)
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Date: 2005-03-22 10:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-03-23 01:04 am (UTC)Well, she could always join him in Teh Evil and be a Lady Macbeth, but I don't see it...