BSG spoilers and my shippy views on such

[dangermousie]

Don't click if you are not a spoiler whore as there are spoilers through 2.14



The latest spoilers I read for 2.14 really do indicate that ysrith has uncanny prescience and would have been burned as a witch a few hundred years ago :P

Lee/Dee has indeed set sail full steam. Apparently there is some kind of hostage situation where someone who wants an eye for an eye wants them to hand Boomer over (more about it later) and Lee is seriously wounded and Billy notices how Dee hovers around the poor boy. Also, apparently Billy is shot by the end of that ep and we don't know if he survives, and we have Lee coming out of his unconsciousness with Dee over him. Yup, shippy all right!

What are my thoughts on that?

One word: hmmmmm.

I am rather amused at the thought of shipper flame wars, as (some) K/L shippers will go into a huge tizzy. I am not a K/L shipper, though if they happen, that's fine, so I won't be among them. I would have been by the end of S1, but since then the ship sort of lost steam for me. Anders and all that.

Much as I like my angst, I don't think L/K can have a healthy relationship at this point in time. She has way too many issues, and he is tangled in too many of them. I agree with queenofthorns who mentioned a while back that he can't really have a conversation about his basic beliefs and that sort of thing the way he can with Laura. I don't think she really comprehends all of him (or he all of her, really), what makes him tick (the mutiny for example) and that does not an ideal relationship make. But I think Dee is in many ways similar to Lee. I can see them talking about it. In fact, Lee/Dee would be a lot healthier for the guy, though I still can't maintain too much fictional interest (though who knows, maybe she'll feel guilty about Billy and what not). But those make the best RL relationships, anyway.

Besides, if she can have Anders, he can certainly have Dee. I love them as friends though, so I hope that won't get messed up.

In other news, H/B is my ship of choice for the show anyway, so I guess it doesn't bug me one way or the other. As long as they don't kill Boomer off (or Helo). I was scared of that for a bit when I read the summary. Also, how long is the Cylon gestation period anyway?

But overall, the shippiness is not a big deal for me on this show. I have more of an intellectual than an emotional enjoyment with BSG anyway.

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[shadowserenity.livejournal.com]

In other news, H/B is my ship of choice for the show anyway, so I guess it doesn't bug me one way or the other. I'm the same way. Have you read all the new H/B fics on HE? Well, they're all sad... so I guess that's not going to brighten the bandwagon.

I think Ron will have to reduce the gestation period. There's no other way.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Oooh, I've been busy so cut down on fic. I don't mind depressing, so it's going to be fun!

think Ron will have to reduce the gestation period. There's no other way.

Yes, because considering each season is about 2 months give or take, she won't give birth until the 6th season or so, which is insane!

[poisontaster]

Also not being a K/L shipper, I find the possibilities of Lee/Dee to be interesting as well. I think Lee desperately needs to get laid, and I agree that he and Kara are not in a place where they can have anything near functional. Chemistry does not a relationship make.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

think Lee desperately needs to get laid

Indeed, the poor guy. K/L have a great chemistry but a relationship right now will be a train wreck. I do think Lee/Dee are quite compatible, and with no baggage. Does it mean they should spring for a white picket fence around his viper? No. I don't think what they'd have (if anything) will be a forever thing. But it doesn't mean they can't have a happy if temporary relationship.

[ancarett]

Of course, I'm a happy Lee/Kara and Lee/Dualla shipper. I'm all for the pretty and the angst (and, yes, I think Lee/Dualla would have that element).

Of course, I have a theory (a theory that is my own!) that maybe Dee is a Cylon. But I haven't gotten it all written down yet. . . .

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Ooooooh, like the icon!

Dee a Cylon? I don't know. Maybe one who doesn't know it...Hmmmm.

It's actually fun to like a show where I am not a rabid shipper (the way I was with Farscape or Firefly). Makes it so much more relaxing :)

[ysrith.livejournal.com]

The latest spoilers I read for 2.14 really do indicate that ysrith has uncanny prescience and would have been burned as a witch a few hundred years ago :P

Seemingly I have this amazing super-power where I channel storylines. It started when I predicted the Farscape season 2 finale plot-for-plot a few years ago, and then extended into books and other shows.

Or it could just be the fact that there are only 16 storylines in the world, and I have read the same source material as the author

I have decided that I am refusing to pay any attention to any shipper wars that may arise. Though seemingly I am gaining a bit of a reputation as a "Lee/Kara hater" :)

I have been prophylactically culling the f-list to avoid any potential fan-twittiness. And therefore can continue to be all about the one true pairing on the show - Lee/Angst!

BTW I agree with you, I don't watch this show for the shippiness. I watch it because it is a great show. It meets all my intellectual needs for a TV show. I love all the characters. I mean what does it say about me when my favourite characters are Lee and Tigh?

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I mean what does it say about me when my favourite characters are Lee and Tigh?


It says you are a woman of taste :) I too find Tigh fascinating. He's flawed but I don't get the Tigh hate. His flaws are what makes him interesting...

I am gaining a bit of a reputation as a "Lee/Kara hater" :)

LOL! Everyone knows that your true OTP is Lee/Angst :P

[ysrith.livejournal.com]

Tigh is wonderful! Though not in the sex-god way that Lee is of course. I really love him as a character. He's the Garibaldi of the show, only played by a much better actor. If they ever kill off Tigh, I will sulk.

I especially love it when we get Lee & Tigh interacting. They are both very similar. If Lee went down the wrong path, you could see him ending up just like that

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

They are both very similar

You know, I never thought that, but you are right.

Only Tigh's abstract ideal is a person: Adama.

[taffetadarling.livejournal.com]

It says that you prefer your characters to be multi-layered and complicated. Neither Tigh or Lee are written and stone.

Me likes too!

[vauxhall-cross.livejournal.com]

And therefore can continue to be all about the one true pairing on the show - Lee/Angst!

Hee! You tell it like it is, honey. The rest of them will come around -- or, they should if they know what's good for them. ;) And the thought of K/L, L/D shipper wars makes me think that someone needs to mass-produce some Vicodin for the BSG community, just in case.

And where did you get that icon? It's so prett-ay!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I second the icon comment. Gorgeous. I think it was made bt ancarett

[taffetadarling.livejournal.com]

I'm taking the latest spoiler with a grain of salt. Dee hovered over Commander Adama when she was shot. She is a nurturing individual. It may be just that.

Not to say that there won't be a triangle, or quadrangle or heck, what comes after that?

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

quadrangle or heck, what comes after that?

quentangle? No idea :P

Dee/Adama. Now there's a scary ship!

I am actually glad I distanced myself a bit from K/L, because by the end of S1 I was so into them, all these latest spoilers (or potential spoilers) would have been driving me insane. I think the 5 eps where they were separate cooled me down a bit...

Any L/D thing isn't going to be the OTP, soulmates thing (or I wouldn't like it). Since Kara still needs to move past the whole Anders thing, Lee might be having fun himself as well. Or not. As long as they write it in character and consistently, I'm OK with it.

[eken95.livejournal.com]

Yeah I agree. I'm just watching and enjoying Lee and Kara play pretty with each other right now. I love that this show takes me right along with it what ever the storylines. I'm looking forward to seeing how Lee/ Dee works out. I quite like the space from the angstfest we got with Lee and Kara last season.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Exactly. This all takes space and time and I trust the writers as they've been good so far.

[ysrith.livejournal.com]

Just a heads up that someone has copied this LJ entry and posted it over on the A/S mailing list.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Thanks! Do you mean the info? (Because that's widely available. I've seen it posted in at least two ljs as well as <lj user="thesecretcylon")). Or my opinions about it? (It which case why bother? I am not an oracle). Odd....

[ysrith.livejournal.com]

Both. Though I think it was because the poster was too lazy to bother to retype the relevent info

You're obviously more easy going than me. I think if I found that my opinions had been transposed over to a list I am not a member off, without someone asking me, I'd have words to say. But then, me cranky!

Just warning you in case you get visitations. Someone off the list already found me through the post, as they even left in your comments about me being prescient :)

Which may not be a good thing as I am poking fun at the over-reaction and will probably attract the psychos.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Sorry about you getting dragged in...But maybe people will start treating you as an Oracle? :)

I am severely laid back in RL, so I guess it transposes to the net. Short of someone stealing my fic (though why?) or personally insulting me, none of this stuff bugs me.

[ysrith.livejournal.com]

But maybe people will start treating you as an Oracle? :)

Do I have to alter the LJ layout again?

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

ROFL :)

[vauxhall-cross.livejournal.com]

Much as I like my angst, I don't think L/K can have a healthy relationship at this point in time. She has way too many issues, and he is tangled in too many of them.

Oh, I agree. They both need to work out their respective problems before they can settle down to sunshine and babies and a house in a grain-filled field. Don't get me wrong: I would love it if they got together, but it'd be nice for the show to do it right instead of all rushed and half-assed.

As for L/D... I don't get why everyone's getting so upset about it. They're so pretty together. And Lee needs sex, *badly.* And it's Dualla! Lee! Billy, jealousy, and Starbuck too (if she finds out)! Angst muffins for everyone! What's not to like?

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I love the "666" icon!

Yes, it's pretty clear that middle of S2 is much too early for them to get together (as it would be in any show that was not primarily a romantic drama). And I can't imagine either of them being celibate until True Love comes knocking. And yes, the angst would be lovely!