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People on soompi are complaining that they cannot buy the romance of Oh My Lady because Chae Rim looks like a 'really old woman who sells things at a market,' 'in her 40s at least.' (So, presumably, how could the hero want her).

Leaving aside the whole issue of 40s as clearly being so decrepit as to be fit for a nursing home (seriously, the posters have GOT to be in their early teens), are they telling me this is what a 40-something looks like?



Chae Rim is barely 30 and even with the hair from hell they gave her to 'age' her up to 35, she does not look much older than someone in her early 30s. A very very pretty someone in her early 30s.

To claim this is what a 'very old' 40-something looks like who is so hideous that no attractive man would ever look at her?

Ooooo-kay.

That's kinda insane.

Date: 2010-04-05 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seven-trees.livejournal.com
*rolls eyes* Oh please, most people would be lucky to look like Chae Rim in their twenties.

Date: 2010-04-05 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Seriously, they keep going on an on how she is so hideous/old they cannot believe Siwon would be able to fall for her and I am sitting there going - is my contacts prescription off or is theirs?

If I saw CR on the street, hair or no hair, I'd totally be stunned at the prettiness.

Date: 2010-04-05 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkeyedwolf.livejournal.com
Seriously?! My disbelief is that we're supposed to believe they're OLDER than they look. She's 30 playing 35 and he's what, 23 playing 28?

Date: 2010-04-05 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yes - we are supposed to believe they are basically 5 yrs older than their real ages. I bet the only reason they shifted ages up is because if he had a 5 yr old daughter at 23, would mean he knocked a girl up at 17 which is probably a huge taboo in Korea (they seem to be dead set on not allowing any even indirect hint that highschoolers have sex), and probably because 35 looks 'more desperate.'

I can buy them a few years older than their age - I'll just pretend Chae Rim was genetically lucky and Siwon looks really manly for a boyband guy, but yeah - 28/35 is a little hard to believe sometimes. They looooove having younger play older though, all the time so I am used to it.

Also, what do you think of her ex-husband? I totally love that he's a loser slimeball but in a way less rage-inducing way than Last Scandal's hubby.

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Date: 2010-04-05 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
Hee! Obviously this one of "I hate that girl standing next to him" threads. As a lady in her 40s., I am outraged. :D

Date: 2010-04-05 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yup - they keep going on and on how such and such Chae Rim/Siwon a scene was supposed to be cute but it just looked horrible and it makes me roll my eyes like mad. I am the same age Chae Rim is in RL and I (without false modesty) consider myself attractive, but there is no way I look as good as she does and I am younger than what her character is supposed to be!

Date: 2010-04-05 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cranberrysheep.livejournal.com
This is one of the things that is making watching these current dramas on viikii really hard. The comments on Chae Rim's (and Son Ye Jin's) looks are really trying my patience.

I will say that Chae Rim's hair is pretty bad. Though if they just did away with the bangs it would be a million times better.

Date: 2010-04-05 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I turn off comments on viikii because they drive me insane.

Oh, I can just imagine comments on Son Ye Jin - ooooh, messy hair and she dares to stand next to the precious precious LMH. Especially since most viikiiers have probably never seen her in anything else before.

Her hair is horrid, I think on purpose to give the frumpy ahjumma look. because let's face it, if they gave her lovely hair, it would become more of 'why is Siwon and the rest of males of Seoul not swooning at her feet asap?' thing. In promos she had a different, very cute hairstyle, so I have hopes for a makeover.

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Date: 2010-04-05 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itshelene.livejournal.com
I haven't been on Viiki in ages, but I remember you could right-click and turn off the comments. They were driving me insane.

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Date: 2010-04-05 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uisceros.livejournal.com
I wonder about people sometimes. I'm guessing that a lot of those commenters are Super Junior fans. A LARGE amount of kpop fans are like, 14 (incidentally this is one of the things I hate the most about the kpop fandom, being over 20 is like being ancient to the baby!fans).

I think it's ridiculous. Even if she were in her 40's, so what!? But beyond that, there's no way Chae Rim looks old. Plus, she's utterly gorgeous. Siwon would be lucky to have her ;P

Date: 2010-04-05 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Even if she were in her 40s, I agree - OYS who was the female lead in La Dolce Vita was 0ver 40 and she was gorgeous and stylish and I'd crush on her. But Chae Rim barely even looks 30! A 30 yr old would be lucky to look like that!

Date: 2010-04-05 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] itshelene.livejournal.com
LOL. This is utterly ridiculous. And the very reason I stopped reading Soompi some time ago. There are too many 15-16 year-olds on that board.

Date: 2010-04-05 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Some soompi threads are awesome - period drama ones are full of interesting information and discussion. But more teen-oriented drama threads - oh my.

Date: 2010-04-05 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hollyxu.livejournal.com
... yeah, going to have to chalk this one up to tween fans being crazy.

Date: 2010-04-05 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I mean, I understand, Siwon is in a boyband, is hot and takes his shirt off a lot - that's gotta create a rabid fanbase. But seriously, tween girl, he isn't going to suddenly fly to wherever you are and declare undying love. Not to mention, this is a drama, not RL. He isn't suddenly going to run off with Chae Rim because he's supposed to be in love with her in the drama.

Date: 2010-04-05 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ifruity.livejournal.com
I think Chae Rim could play any age! Maybe it's the hair that's freaking them out. I'm sixteen and I swear, she could pass for early 20s if she wanted to. This is why I refuse to look at forums because they give people my age bad names.

Date: 2010-04-05 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
The hair totally is horrid but even with the hair she looks like a style-challenged 20-something year old.

Yeah, I don't get it.

Date: 2010-04-05 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkwithheroes.livejournal.com
I've watched this show a bit, so I can't say too much. But, all I can really think is she doesn't look 40. Yes, the hair is unflattering and some of her outfits do her no favors, but she's supposed be be a 35-year-old Ajumma. Korean dramas like to present married/divorced women, over the age of twenty-five, as having bad hair and fashion sense.


I'm not a huge fan of Chae Rim, but I can see that if she'd get some new style, she'd look good. Isn't she thirty-one in Western years; or thirty-two in Korean years? Because she looks about late twenties/early thirties. She's a pretty woman.


CR and Siwon are eight years apart and their characters are about the same. It is a difference, but really - who cares? Personally, I cannot see what their characters would have in common and talk about, but that doesn't mean he can't find her attractive.


As of right now, I can't see the relationship turning truly romantic and lasting, just because Min Woo can be really immature, is young and a bit spoiled/selfish, etc. I can't see Gae Hwa wanting to play mother to her boyfriend, etc. But. . .that doesn't mean they can't get romantic during the series.

The fact that the characters are 35 and 28 has nothing to do with it. If they find each other attractive, they find each other attractive. To me, it's just a question of if the romance could last due to their different personalities, maturity levels, life experiences, etc. Lets be honest - there are some immature thirty-five years old in the world and some naive forty year olds too; while there are some very mature and experienced twenty-five year olds.

Date: 2010-04-05 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Exactly - I could totally buy an argument that they may not make a compatible couple or that she isn't his usual type or whatever. But the blanket declaration of not being able to understand how he can find her attractive? *rolls eyes*

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Date: 2010-04-05 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
But don't you know women lose all sex appeal and sexual desire and become ancient and unappealing the second they turn 30? No, really. In a few months, I COMPLETELY expect to wake up grey, ugly, and with no interest in men left whatsoever.

I'm assured this is true.

Date: 2010-04-05 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Darn, nobody informed me about this when I turned 30 over a year ago. Nobody informed Mr Mousie either! What shall we do? Now that I know the truth, I am sure the grey and hideousness will set in asap.

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Date: 2010-04-05 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calixa.livejournal.com
I had the same problem watching Dal Ja's Spring, because honestly? Chae Rim has a baby face. She doesn't look even close to fourty, THAT FACE IS SMOOTH AS A BABY'S BOTTOM.

Date: 2010-04-06 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
THAT FACE IS SMOOTH AS A BABY'S BOTTOM.

As a mother of a toddler, I just got some odd visuals in my head :P

Date: 2010-04-05 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beck-liz.livejournal.com
She's gorgeous! And young! She just doesn't look like a teenager, which I approve of. Geeeeeez.

Date: 2010-04-06 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Don't you know that everyone who looks older than high school age should be in a nursing home?

Date: 2010-04-05 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moraitika1.livejournal.com
from my personal experience love doesn't have anything to do with age I'm a few years older than my husband, and I don't even look as good as the 30 years old women look. The problems is with the toddlers... they feel jealous and they don't want to see the smexy boybander in her arms (little idiots...if the drama doesn't succeed you'll hardly see your idol in another drama..ohh well...)
Really...I saw SNSD dressed like ahjummas and they didn't looked so good like Chae Rim does

Date: 2010-04-06 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
they feel jealous and they don't want to see the smexy boybander in her arms (little idiots...if the drama doesn't succeed you'll hardly see your idol in another drama..ohh well..

Exactly. They should remember how well Heading to the Ground did. snerk

Date: 2010-04-06 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
I think that teens/tweens just have a weird sense of how certain ages look ... my almost-13-year-old son's friend are all convinced I am about 30 (hardly) completely ignoring the fact that in that case, I would have had to give birth to him in high school!

Anyway, you have to grow up to learn that physical attraction is really only a small part of finding someone hot. They'll find out sooner or later ;-)

Date: 2010-04-06 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
that teens/tweens just have a weird sense of how certain ages look ...

That makes sense. I remember when I was 12 or so, everyone over 20 looked the same 'old' to me.

Date: 2010-04-06 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kuroidi.livejournal.com
So I have two years before I turn into a withered old crone? Lovely...

Sometimes I'm at a loss at the obsession with age...

My husband is a year and half younger than me. Why isn't it hard to believe that a younger man would want an older woman?

Date: 2010-04-06 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moraitika1.livejournal.com
the fangirls ignore the fact that in 9th grade the boys are all over the older girls

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Date: 2010-04-06 12:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] quaggy
Oh for crying out loud! Those aren't just jealous teens/tweens. Those are jealous teens/tweens who (to borrow an awesome phrase from another currently airing drama) had botoxed their brains! Seriously, green isn't just the color of the leaves this season!

Date: 2010-04-06 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
had botoxed their brains

Aahahahahahahahaa

Date: 2010-04-06 08:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orangebreeze.livejournal.com
Please, who cares for the opinion of a 14-year-old anyway? Everyone would be too hideous for their beloved Si Won.

Chae Rim is a very attractive woman. The only thing that looks old is her style. But it suits her somehow. It's very homely and cute, I think :D
I can totally see why Si Won's character would fall for hers.


EDIT: Sorry, I fail at English today -.-
Edited Date: 2010-04-06 08:57 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-06 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Everyone would be too hideous for their beloved Si Won.

I think basically that is what it boils down to.

Date: 2010-04-06 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriesailor.livejournal.com
Saw some of Oh my Lady already, and even after the cap I wouldn't guess her for more than 25.
You're already into drama and meet the fanbase, it shouldn't come as such a surprise that noobs rant foolish around. Take a deep breath, and think of the guys abs. XD

Date: 2010-04-06 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
LOL, that is indeed very calming.

Date: 2010-04-08 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] december-clouds.livejournal.com
When she was in Dal Ja, she always always talking about being in her 30s and she once... fell or something and she was like "oh oh oh" like an old woman. There were always comments about her age.

However, I love Chae Rim and I loved Dal Ja. *laughs*

Date: 2010-04-08 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Chae Rim = love.

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