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Well, this post is about a happier topic than splintering of souls.

It's about Harry and Ginny and other good things.

More to come :)


In some ways, I think Fleur's statements to Mrs Weasley parallel not just Remus/Tonks situation, but Harry/Ginny.

Granted, in Fleur's case, it's not Bill who is pushing her away (as he is unconscious) but Mrs Weasley is thinking that the girl won't want the man because he is "damaged" (and if he has werewolf characteristics, potentially risky, I'd imagine). And of course Fleur proves that she loves him and doesn't care, which leads to Tonx insisting on the same to Lupin.

Well, Harry's handicaps are much bigger than scars and liking of rare steaks or being an unemployable werewolf. But the whole point is that if a woman loves her SO, she doesn't care about the risks or disadvantages, and it's her choice.

Harry might push Ginny away (in fact, I wouldn't like him half as much if he didn't), but I can't imagine Ginny taking it in stride. She won't push at the funeral or crowd him, because she understands him and she knows peace of mind is what he needs most at the moment, and this is not the time or the place to argue. But I doubt she will be sitting on her hands. She will be doing whatever Harry needs her to do and try to help him at the same time.

Oh, Harry. I find it amazing that after all that has happened and his horrible upbringing he has such a capacity to love: DD, Ron and Hermione, Sirius, Ginny. But I think he is somewhat wary and unbelieving and awfully grateful of receiving it.

I loved H/G in this book. It's quite different from R/H (I can see them bicker and produce a million kids). Harry needs a different relationship. The bickering that R/H take in stride would be so wearying for him. He has enough drama in his life as is, he doesn't need more in a relationship (a big chunk of reason Cho and he didn't work out). He needs someone who really understands him, and Ginny does. He doesn't have to justify himself, or argue, or explain. I love little touches all throughout the book, e.g. when Harry and Ginny are obsessively discussing who poisoned Ron and Hermione is quiet there. Harry and Ginny's methods of dealing with the situation are very similar.

He needs someone emotionally open (after his horrible childhood, I'd imagine), and warm (I.e. a Weasley) and someone with whom things just fit, without angsty nervousness.

In HBP, Harry is never nervous around Ginny, the way he was around Cho. She brings him peace, not freaks him out. There is just such an amazing grown-up maturity to their relationship. It's uncomplicated, but not immature. And that last conversation between Harry and Ginny? Wow. I think I fell a bit in love with them myself. His knowledge of her perfect understanding, and the fact that he is leaving her for her own good and she does not make a scene but understands, and there is still the deep feeling between them. Guuuh.

And there is joking and the fact that she is pretty fearless and utterly open (I love the "hard blazing look" phrase). Ginny is the girl for him because she would never, ever hold him back. They just fit.

Also, I love that Harry has dreams about Ginny that make him grateful that Ron doesn't know leglitimency. :) And their first kiss? Wow. Talk about swoon-worthy. Perfect.

Also, Harry with no family will have a loving warm and huge family in the Weasleys. It should not be like "weeks out of someone else's life." Harry's life should be as good and as warm and as wonderful. It's hearbreaking that he sees anything wonderful as something that has no place in his life. Oh Harry, you deserve good things. And now he has an extra impetus to survive Voldie. He knows he can have happiness afterwards.

I was relatively indifferent to H/G before HBP (though I thought if Harry got together with anyone it would be her), but now, it's my favorite ship of the books.

Date: 2005-07-19 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmecaito.livejournal.com
The H/G plot made me think, holy crap, is this the script for a Bollywood movie? Oh man, I was swooning all over the place. I was actually going to make an intelligent comment but my brain has been reduced to "Guh... wa... nice... snog... yay."

Oh yeah, Ron and Hermione are going to get married, have a lot of rows, and have even more make-up sex, and therefore will have a lot more Weasley babies. Oh man. Weasley babies. W00t!

Date: 2005-07-19 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
script for a Bollywood movie?

I can so imagine her running to him and hugging him and his kissing her set to a BW soundtrack :)

And yay on Weasley babies! Can you imagine the madhouse the Weasleys' place will be when the kids come to visit?

*feels warm fuzzies*

Date: 2005-07-19 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmecaito.livejournal.com
Mr. and Mrs. Weasley will make the best grandparents too.

A scene like this springs to mind:

Mrs. Weasley scooped up two of her grandchildren in her arms. "Grandpa and I bought a whole case of Chocolate Frogs for your visit. What say we get a start on that, hmm?"

Ron looked scandalized. "You never gave us that many sweets, when we were kids," he said, almost sulkily.

"Didn't want to spoil you," Mrs. Weasley stated matter-of-factly, not minding at all when several other grandkids knocked down a cabinet and began using it for a dollhouse.

"But it's okay to spoil my kids?" Ron asked, slightly indignant.

"Of course!" Mrs. Weasley replied, looking as though it was a crime not to pamper your children's children and let them get away with just about anything short of murder.

Ron opened his mouth and closed it several times in a row, as though he was attempting to talk yet with nothing to say. Hermione smiled to herself; Ron's face, completely flabbergasted, looked exactly the same as it had ten years ago when she realized she loved him as more than a friend.


Hurrr. Writing post-Hogwarts Weasley fanfics would be easy for me. Just write about my family, change some of the names, and add a few spells and Quidditch references here and there, and PRESTO! Instant success!

Date: 2005-07-19 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Heh. Me likes :)

Date: 2005-07-19 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
Because I tend to relate everything to Star Wars, R/H are the Han and Leia of the group while H/G are the Anakin and Padme. Harry can't take the bickering. He gets annoyed to easily and is too high strung to take it in stride. Ron likes it considering the family he came from and probably wouldn't be happy with a peaceful relationship.

Here's the thing with Ginny. She knows when to not push Harry and when he honestly does need his space, but she also won't put up with his crap when he gets out of line. Moreover, he takes it from her in a way he doesn't from Hermione. Ginny has a soothing affect on Harry that after a life of complete chaos, he needs. She can also keep up with his train of thought which seems to derail Ron and occasionally intimidate Hermione (it seemed to in OotP). Harry needs a "home" and I think Ginny provides that. And so help them, if someone threatens Ginny, Harry will rip them to shreds Anakin style.

And their romance was downright sexy for a children's book. I think that's because it was such and honest relationship and when two minds meet and realize that they're perfect for each other, it IS sexy. And Harry pulled the perfect romantic manuever by kissing her, spontaneous, in public. There was no going back from that and he didn't need to because that's how he honestly felt about her.

Date: 2005-07-19 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
And once again, you manage to put everything brilliantly.

I agree that the openness and the honesty was sexy.

And the fact that the bickering would drive Harry up the wall. For Ron conflict would remind him of his parents whom he loves and his happy home. For Harry, discord reminds him of the awful Dursleys.

And the SW parallel? Perfect. Harry is even The Chosen One! :)

Date: 2005-07-19 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
And I think the "Chosen One" bit is what makes both Anakin and Harry so fragile and emotionally shakey. "Chosen Ones" have pressure put on them for no reason other than what they were born as. They desperately need bases. Both boys have a huge capacity to love but no real outlet because people tend to see them as the "Chosen Ones", not as people. Anakin finds a base, but he was in over his head already and wasn't willing to give up Padme. Harry finds a base with Ginny, but he's willing to give her up to protect her, something Anakin couldn't or wouldn't do. I think it's that difference that will make H/G end happily while A/P didn't.

And think of the adorable kids. Of course R/H would have ten bazillion trouble making boys and brainy girls. H/G would a handful of red haired and black haired kids with green eyes.

Date: 2005-07-19 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
And think of the adorable kids

Awwwwww.

I agree with you on the difference between H/G and A/P. Of course, Harry is better grounded because he doesn't have to deny every emotion and because Voldemort is hardly wooing him. But yes, Harry knows when to stop and Anakin has almost no brakes.

Date: 2005-07-19 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvensapphire.livejournal.com
I am so glad to not be the only one who relates everything to Star Wars! ;) I agree ~ R/H are Han and Leia, H/G are Anakin and Padmé (though I hope they end happier). Ginny gives him a center, a peace of mind, that no one else has been able to, and as the "Chosen One," having that center is important.

The first kiss was perfect. *happy sigh*

Date: 2005-07-19 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
I think the fact that Harry is willing to give up Ginny to protect her will eventually gaurentee that H/G will end happier than A/P. Harry knows that if someone gets to Ginny they'll have leverage on him and he stops it before that can happen. Anakin didn't, and therefore had Padme used against him.

Date: 2005-07-19 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Exactly.

Of course, LV can still try to use Ginny. Break-up or no, she was still someone Harry was friends with.

Date: 2005-07-20 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvensapphire.livejournal.com
Agreed. Harry already lost Sirius because he was used as leverage, and in knowing that the powers on the other side will use people he cares about as bait, or endanger them in any way, to get to Harry, he will let them go to protect them. Harry doesn't have the same need to hang on, the inability to adapt or pull away, that is Anakin's downfall, and you're right in the fact that it will probably save Ginny. And then, once everything is over, he'll still have her to go back to. :)

Date: 2005-07-20 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
Funny that the 15 year old seems so much more mature than the 20 year old did. Harry is rational enough to know how is actions affect people. This is why I think he will eventually be rewarded for that (in spite of all the "Harry dies" rumors).

Date: 2005-07-21 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sevetenks.livejournal.com
While that's all true, if Harry's the Anakin (my dad's had this theory),wouldn't Harry, in the end, go bad? Nah... (but my dad thinks its possible)

Date: 2005-07-22 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I don't think he would go bad. Considering the bad is the side that killed his parents, he is unlikely to go bad.

Date: 2005-07-19 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e4e.livejournal.com
Im well happy they finally got it together. Awwwww and imagine how happy Mrs Weasley would be to have Harry as a son-in-law. Awwwwwww. I cant wait for that! :) (So Harry better live) I soo said it was filmi :P

Date: 2005-07-19 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Very filmi :) Guuh...the kiss!

Date: 2005-07-19 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e4e.livejournal.com
aww your icon. Ms Chandni hee. Yes! How sweet.

Date: 2005-07-19 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvensapphire.livejournal.com
You put this so beautifully. I completely agree.

Date: 2005-07-19 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thanks! Your icon! *dies*

Date: 2005-07-19 11:06 pm (UTC)
ext_50: Amrita Rao (Dr. Chase)
From: [identity profile] plazmah.livejournal.com
Yes.

Just... yes :)

Date: 2005-07-19 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thank you :)

Date: 2005-07-20 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callmecaito.livejournal.com
Don't mind me, I'm just snogging your icon.

Date: 2005-07-20 10:27 pm (UTC)
ext_50: Amrita Rao (The Ducklings)
From: [identity profile] plazmah.livejournal.com
Snog away! I know I would ;)

Date: 2005-07-20 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
Who's that in the icon? He's cute.

Date: 2005-07-20 10:29 pm (UTC)
ext_50: Amrita Rao (Dr. Chase)
From: [identity profile] plazmah.livejournal.com
That would be Dr. "I Have A Sexy Australian Accent" Chase from the show House MD. He's awesome on so many levels, not just because og the hotness ;)

Date: 2005-07-21 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenweasley.livejournal.com
Everyone else pretty much summed it up so I'm just gonna agree with them. :-D

*swoons*

Date: 2005-07-21 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Your icon is beyond adorable!

Date: 2005-07-21 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_la_pistolera/
Here from harry_and_ginny.
Just wanted to say I agree exactly with what you're saying. Thanks for posting and sharing your opinions.

Date: 2005-07-21 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thank you.

Date: 2005-07-21 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sevetenks.livejournal.com
Totalness agreeness. w00t.

Date: 2005-07-21 08:58 pm (UTC)

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