BSG characters post

[dangermousie]

This arose out of discussion in one of the posts below.

Overall, I'd much rather find the character interesting than likeable. (Both together is good but not necessary). And if I find a character unlikeable, it doesn't mean that he or she is a bad person, waiting to blow up the water tanks. It just means that they push wrong buttons on me.

I have actually realized what these buttons are, with Roslin. I prefer the characters who are willing to let the greater good go hang for love of someone, a personal caring (Adama at the end of S1 for example, Starbuck throughout, Apollo when Kara is missing, etc). Roslin does not have that. She does what she does from somewhat distant and dispassionate caring for the human race and puts the greater good always first. Which makes her an admirable human being, but leaves me really (and perversely) cold.

So, here's my list:

Kara Thrace: both very interesting and very likeable (though severely flawed).
Lee Adama: ditto
Cmdr. Adama: very interesting, and likeable
Pres. Roslin: very interesting, somewhat likeable. However, I would love to watch more about her as she fascinates me.
Chief Tyrol: somewhat interesting and very likeable
Galactica Boomer: somewhat interesting and somewhat likeable (she lost the "likeable" status after Litmus)
Caprica Boomer: very interesting and somewhat likeable
Helo: somewhat interesting and very likeable
Cally: not interesting and likeable
Gaeta: not interesting and somewhat likeable
Baltar: somewhat interesting and not likeable
Six: not interesting (the sex evil kitten act palls) and not likeable
Billy: not interesting and likeable
Dee: not interesting and likeable
Tigh: interesting and somewhat likeable
Zarek: very interesting and not likeable
Ellen: somewhat interesting and not likeable

Yours?

Also, because I am making lists. My ep order from most liked to least liked:


33
Kobol's Last Gleaming Part 1
Colonial Day (love the politics)
Kobol's Last Gleaming Part 2
You can't go home again
Hand of God
Act of Contrition
Bastille Day
Tigh me up, Tigh me down
Litmus
Water
Six Degrees of Separation
Flesh and Bone

Comments

[kimbari.livejournal.com]

I prefer the characters who are willing to let the greater good go hang for love of someone, a personal caring (Adama at the end of S1 for example, Starbuck throughout, Apollo when Kara is missing, etc). Roslin does not have that. She does what she does from somewhat distant and dispassionate caring for the human race and puts the greater good always first.

Good point, and that is probably because all the other relationships with the exception of Billy and Dualla pre-date the end of the world. Roslin, as far as we know, was alone in the world BEFORE it ended. Now all she has is caring for what's left of the human race, about 47,000 people whose best interest is better served by her being distant and dispassionate. She took on that job when she KNEW she was dying, and despite being ostensibly unqualified, :D has done a damn good job of it.

To your list, I gotta say I find them ALL interesting, although admittedly only Adama and Roslin are interesting enough for me to expend CPU (the one between my ears :) hours writing fanfic. So I'll just list my loves, hates and indifferences:

Roslin = loves
Adama = loves
Starbuck = indifferent
Apollo = likes
Tyrol = likes
Galactica Boomer = likes (poor thing, she can't help it she's a Cylon :)
Caprica Boomer = dislikes (she's a CYLON! LOL)
Helo = likes
Cally = likes
Gaeta = loves (don't know why :)
Baltar = hates
Six = hates
Billy = loves
Dee = loves
Tigh = likes/hates (I am truly on the fence with him, he's redeemable, yet...)
Zarek = hates (now, HE grates on me *shudder*)
Ellen = hates (is not too strong a word!)

As for eps, good list! Mine is:

33
Colonial Day (mostly because of the HUGE A/R sop! :)
Kobol's Last Gleaming Part 1
Kobol's Last Gleaming Part 2
Act of Contrition
You Can't Go Home Again
Hand of God
Water
Flesh and Bone
Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down
Litmus
Bastille Day
Six Degrees of Separation

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

It appears neither of us is all that fond of 6 Degrees :) I can take Baltar in small dozes only.

Re: Roslin. You are right. She doesn't have anyone she madly loves (familially, romantically, whatever). I don't think she did even prior to the end of the world, as we don't see her checking/concerned for a missing lover/family member afterwards.

Plus, I think finding out you have terminal illness would distance her further. I give her mad props for being effective and pushing forward not just past the ruin of civilization, but despite her imminent death. Others (from Apollo to Zarek) have hope. She doesn't, really, and still continues, which makes her truly admirable. And in the midst of it all she still has time for small human gestures like reassuring Apollo in Water. I'd be curled in a ball crying somwhere if I was in her place. Hmm, I might talk myself into really liking her, after all :)

Gaeta: I think he has a bit of a crush on Baltar, in which case, heaven help him!

[phylogenetics.livejournal.com]

I take a slightly different stance. I "like" characters who are interesting. For example, I find Ellen Tigh to be a horrible human being, but I "like" her because she's interesting to watch. Billy, OTOH, is a good person, but I 'dislike' him b/c he's kinda....boring, and his fumbling ways don't endear me to him.

The other factor that contribute to my like or dislike of a character is how they are treated by others.

I guess that's why I dislike Balter even though he's interesting, he is so overdue for some serious pain but he always gets away with his crap.

Here's an abbreviated list:

Adama: my favorite character b/c he's interesting and he tries to do good. His major flaw is letting his personal feelings get in the way of doing his job, but he gets called on his crap most of the time. Also, I enjoy the father-son angst.

Roslin: She's a decent president, but I find her kind of boring. She was most interesting when she's calling the military men on their crap. I don't like her religious conversion storyline, but it's a theme Ron Moore seems to enjoy pushing (hubris before a fall).

Starbuck: Woo hoo, let me rant a bit here:

I started out enjoying Starbuck (witty liners, fun lovin') but I find myself disliking her b/c she'd pull crap on people and get away with it. For example, she doesn't tell the Adamas that she was partially responsible for Zak's death, even though she knows the two are pulled apart by it. But both forgive her for it. No one mentions her inappropriate behavior that led to his death. There's also that case where she goes off with the Raider NOT out of loyalty to the president, but out of anger for Adama. It does not speak well of Kara when she's so unreliable (what happens when she decides she doesn't like someone? she goes off and does her own thing and ignores the consequences). This annoys me because no one checks her for her unruly behavior except for Tigh, whom everyone seems to hate.

Lee: I like him, but I think his character could use a little more work.I love his conflict with his father, his infatuation with his best pilot, and his own tightrope dance between the civilian and the military. He tries to do the right thing but, unlike Starbuck, he thinks before he does anything, and accepts the consequences of his actions. Thumbs up for Lee.

Boomer: She's cute, but I find her only amusing when she acting bitchy. :)

Balter/Six: Ugh. See above. I hate Six period. I'm sure she's important to the religious storyline but that's what the fast forward button is for. :)

Tyrol: Cool man. But he doesn't do much for me. I can't say either way.

Tigh: Love the man. He has a drinking problem, a manipulative wife, and capacity to be a great officer. His only downside is his lack of diplomacy when handling the ship. He's not well liked by anyone, but I love his character!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

At one point, I was worried that Starbuck was becoming a bit too Mary Sueish. That doesn't worry me any more, as she is shown to have flaws. Also, I do not think she gets away with things (unlike Baltar about whom I agree wholeheartedly), it's just her payback is indirect.

Re: lying to Adama (I'd imagine she paid any debt to Apollo by saving his life). She gets bawled out, almost abandoned for dead, breaks her leg, has to crawl for miles over horrible terrain etc.

He rash actions with Baltar lead to her being made miserable by Lee.

Her taking the raider? We don't know how the TPTB will handle it once she gets back, but on a cosmic scale, being beaten to a pulp by Six, finding out that her friend is a Cylon and probably being stuck on the run, plus certain spoilers for S2 which I am not putting here as this post isn't marked spoiler and they are pretty hard-core spoilers, do amount to karmic payback.

I also love Tigh, and don't get his relative unpopularity in fandom. He is flawed and he is hard-nosed, but he is a damn effective XO, functions very well, and though not beloved, is capable. Plus, Starbuck is as much at fault in any conflict with him as he is.

[phylogenetics.livejournal.com]

At one point, I was worried that Starbuck was becoming a bit too Mary Sueish.


Katee makes a mention of 'no more Super Starbuck' in season two. So even the actress acknowledges this problem. Here's hoping season two will do better :)


Also, I do not think she gets away with things (unlike Baltar about whom I agree wholeheartedly), it's just her payback is indirect.


Yes, you are right, she does have 'karmic retribution' for pulling her crap....but it still annoys me that people will find her *trustworthy* despite her crap. She shouldn't be trusted to lead, period.

Despite her numerous talents, Kara's not capable of doing her job when it interfers with her personal life. Adama has this issue as well, but he has someone to check him (Roslin, Tigh, Lee). Kara does not have anyone to check her except for Tigh, and we know what she thinks of him.

As Tigh said, his problems are personal, Starbuck's problems are professional, which puts other people at risk.

In some ways, she acts like the spoiled brat more often than Lee (and that's saying something considering what Lee pulled :p).

That's why I liked Lee, for all his whiness, he reasons out and tries to do the right thing. I think his stunt on Colonial One was ill timed, but it was the right thing to do for the right reasons, and it wasn't personal for him. Starbuck lacks that thoughfulness.

I'll be upset if next season, when she comes back, Starbuck is taken back into the loving bosom of Adama---b/c she shouldn't be for going AWOL on him,just like Lee shouldn't be accepted back easily for putting a gun to Tigh's head.

Maybe she'll learn to think before she acts next season...or gets the crap beaten out of her for acting reckless once again. :p


I also love Tigh, and don't get his relative unpopularity in fandom. He is flawed and he is hard-nosed, but he is a damn effective XO, functions very well, and though not beloved, is capable. Plus, Starbuck is as much at fault in any conflict with him as he is


I think that fandom hatred stems from his unpopularity with the other characters. I mean, if everyone but Adama dislikes him, and he rages on every character except Adama, fandom is going to feel affronted (hey, he ragged on *my* favorite character).

Also, he has a drinking problem, and that's one regulation no-no that people can relate to. From what I've heard, military people say that alot of going-ons on the ship is inappropriate, but for civilians, we really only understand that drinking on the job is bad.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

'll be upset if next season, when she comes back, Starbuck is taken back into the loving bosom of Adama---b/c she shouldn't be for going AWOL on him,just like Lee shouldn't be accepted back easily for putting a gun to Tigh's head.


Well, it looks as if Lee won't be easily taken back into the loving bosom of his family. As to Starbuck? I don't know. Adama is a lot more forgiving of her than of anyone else (notice his belief in her coercion). He might just continue to view her as Roslin's dupe and cut her slack. However, if what happens in ep 2.5 spoilers are correct, I'd still think Buck got plenty of payback. I don't mind characters letting it slide if it's character consistent.

I think she'd make a lousy CAG, but as a lead pilot, she's suited enough to her job.

military people say that alot of going-ons on the ship is inappropriate, but for civilians, we really only understand that drinking on the job is bad.

But now he drinks only in his off time. But yes, I can see if he tussles with a character you like constantly, he's bound to annoy some people. For me, I like him. Would I want to serve under him? Heck no. But I like him.

[minerva-fan.livejournal.com]

As Tigh said, his problems are personal, Starbuck's problems are professional, which puts other people at risk.

As opposed to those 100 people killed in the hangar bay because Tigh was too drunk to make a snap decision? Kara's a pilot. She is brash, arrogant, and somewhat immature. If she fracks up, the worst thing she can do is smash up her Viper and die.

When Tigh fracks up, the entire ship is in danger. With power comes responsibility, and Tigh is an insult to the uniform. The first time he showed up drunk in CIC, he should have been thrown in the brig. Before the attacks, the only thing protecting him was his friendship with Adama. Now, the only other thing keeping him in his job is the fact that the bulk of humanity has been wiped out, thus lowering the pool for replacements.

I'll be upset if next season, when she comes back, Starbuck is taken back into the loving bosom of Adama---b/c she shouldn't be for going AWOL on him,just like Lee shouldn't be accepted back easily for putting a gun to Tigh's head.

I doubt she's going to come back with no ramifications. Although if she did the right thing, and the Arrow finds the way to Earth, then she'll be a hero. And rightly so.

And as for Adama, he's going to have to work to get back into her good graces after lying to the entire civilization!

Maybe she'll learn to think before she acts next season...or gets the crap beaten out of her for acting reckless once again. :p

Ooh, yeah. And maybe when she saves all their asses from imminent destruction yet again, she'll let them kiss her sexy little ass.

I think that fandom hatred stems from his unpopularity with the other characters. I mean, if everyone but Adama dislikes him, and he rages on every character except Adama, fandom is going to feel affronted (hey, he ragged on *my* favorite character).

No. That hatred comes from the fact that the man is incompetent, a drunk, and a danger to humanity. In a soon-to-be decommissioned battlestar, Tigh's flaws would have been unfortunate. As XO of the only battleship standing between humanity and extinction, his flaws are potentially genocidal. And that is a scary thing.

Also, he has a drinking problem, and that's one regulation no-no that people can relate to. From what I've heard, military people say that alot of going-ons on the ship is inappropriate, but for civilians, we really only understand is that drinking on the job is bad.

Again, if this was some other ship, in some other time, maybe so. But this is BSG, and humanity doesn't have time for mistakes. So this jerk is being horrendously selfish, dangerously so, and putting the lives of his crew, no, of all humanity at risk because he's too weak to put down the bottle.

You talk about Starbuck being immature and untrustworthy, but when she's doing her job, she's there. She's focused, and committed, and doing what it takes. Yes, she's young, but she's right. To criticize Starbuck (who has saved the fleet so many times it's hard to count) so vehemently while in same post defending Saul Tigh makes me wonder if anyone has actually seen this show?

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Heee. Love the icon!

Re: Tigh. His decision to close that hatch leaving a 100 people to die. Was that a wrong decision? I don't know. Tyrol thinks so, but he is emotionally attached to the people who were lost. Adama doesn't seem to think so (we don't see him reprimand Tigh). And it did save the ship.

That was in the mini.

In the show, Tigh has consistently made good calls and has stopped drinking while on duty (would have stopped alltogether if it wasn't for Ellen plying him). He prevented that suicide bomber, he guessed where the suicide raider would hit, he gave the info to Roslin that allowed her to outargue Adama/Apollo re: Kara search (despite his friendship to Adama). He runs an efficient ship, he does what Adama says (e.g. mutiny). I'd say he's a very good XO.

[elemental-fey.livejournal.com]

For example, she doesn't tell the Adamas that she was partially responsible for Zak's death, even though she knows the two are pulled apart by it. But both forgive her for it. No one mentions her inappropriate behavior that led to his death.

Actually they tore her a new ass hole - hell Adama threw her out of his quaters. But then she kind of nearly died, that tend to change things for most folks. In the end she's still family. Near death experiences tend to make family members forget whatever made them angry in the first place.

There's also that case where she goes off with the Raider NOT out of loyalty to the president, but out of anger for Adama.

Funy how you don't mention the part where Adama fracking lied to everyone. She didn't go because she was "angry at Adama" she chose to put her faith in Laura because there were only two leaders for her to choose from, only two sides from which to chose, and Adama destroyed her faith in him - leaving Laura as her only choice.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Actually they tore her a new ass hole

Well, Adama did. Apollo couldn't as she saved his life right afterwards. Kind took the fun out of things :)

Funy how you don't mention the part where Adama fracking lied to everyone. She didn't go because she was "angry at Adama" she chose to put her faith in Laura because there were only two leaders for her to choose from, only two sides from which to chose, and Adama destroyed her faith in him - leaving Laura as her only choice.

That's an interesting interpretation, one I haven't thought of (that she switched her trust to Laura). I don't know, had she? Either way, it will be a thorny issue when she gets back because she'll probably feel bad for being away when Adama got shot. I thought she was just betrayed by Adama (bad reason to base decision on) and her life in general hasn't been so wonderful lately that she'd mind risking it. I do think Starbuck is so reckless (and such a good pilot) in general because in large part, she doesn't care if she lives or dies.

[minerva-fan.livejournal.com]

You wrote: I have actually realized what these buttons are, with Roslin. I prefer the characters who are willing to let the greater good go hang for love of someone, a personal caring (Adama at the end of S1 for example, Starbuck throughout, Apollo when Kara is missing, etc). Roslin does not have that. She does what she does from somewhat distant and dispassionate caring for the human race and puts the greater good always first. Which makes her an admirable human being, but leaves me really (and perversely) cold.

My Two Cents: Great qualities in a friend. Scary qualities in a president. I think you can never ever forget that Roslin has, in essence, given up her individuality for The Cause. She is dying. She has no future. Her only purpose for living is the dream of saving humanity. She can't sacrifice that, not for friendship, not for romance, not for personal convenience.

She just doesn't have that luxury. If that makes her distant and dispassionate, so be it. She didn't ask for the job, but she does the best she can. I love that about her.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

True. I agree. If she was my RL President, I'd be happy she is dispassionate (though her kamalla addiction, if I knew about it, would freak me out even more).

But in a fictional character, I have different criteria for love.

[elemental-fey.livejournal.com]

It's not an addiction, she has a condition that requires she take the Kamalla to treat the symptoms. So this would be less like a president haveing a crack habit, and more like the president takeing heart pills or chemotherapy.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yes, but it has side effects. E.g. one could be legitimately prescribed morphine for extreme pain (or painkillers). However, I would not want someone who takes them on a regular basis (especially since the drug has hallucinogenic side effects) running the place.

[raffaella.livejournal.com]

Particularly since she had a choice in her treatment. IIRC, Cottle recommended a mix of chemo and radiotherapy, but she refused and prefered to take the Kamala extract. And in a deleted scene (not canon, I know, but enlightening all the same) she admits to Billy that she now takes the Kamala extract in part because of the side effects. Not exactly reassuring.

[elemental-fey.livejournal.com]

Reposting Because it badly needed editing:

Kara Thrace: Very likeable and Extremely interesting
Lee Adama: Somewhat Likeable, somewhat dull - the whole "Nice Guy, broom stick up my ass, look at me I think I'm Cyclopes from X-Men." thing just leaves me cold.
Cmdr. Adama: Very Interesting and somewhat likeable (On a good day)
Pres. Roslin: Passionate, intense and she puts the higher good above her own selfish personal concerns (For me that is a good thing.) so somewhat interesting, but incredibly likeable.
Chief Tyrol: Would someone please buy this man a brain? Extremely dull, and owing to a brain the size of a pea, also extremely unlikable.
Galactica Boomer: She has a great storyline, and before the vagueness of her condition set in I found her extremely dull but likeable. Though her storyline is somewhat interesting.
Caprica Boomer: I see her struggle with the inherent humanity in her Cylon programming as interesting, so I'll say interesting and likeable.
Helo: Somebody Please blow him up, he's both dull and uninteresting – and I still say he's a bleeding hypocrite. Either all toasters deserve to die on site, because by the sheer nature of being Cylon they are evil – or he gets to save his kid… can't have it both ways.
Cally: I wish they would do more with her as I really like Cally, but at the moment I would have to concur with the uninteresting.
Gaeta: Practically invisible, but there is a certain quite nobility to his manner that I find extremely likeable.
Baltar: Being the Psych major that I am I find watching Baltar's bout with insanity, and furthermore the way his devious little megalomaniac mind works extraordinarily fascinating (I would have to say he is my pick for the second most fascinating character on the show.) I also find him extremely likeable as he wouldn't bore me. Plus, he's sexy and brilliant… though I wouldn't date him on a bet.
SixThis woman melts the paint of the walls – Me Frackin Ow baby. I find the fact that a Cylon woman can be so very human fascinating. I am drawn by her obsessive spirituality and I don't think of her as evil in the least. Just on the opposite side of the humans and extremely talented and determined. She is my pick for most likeable and fascinating
Billy: Not dull, not interesting just kind of middling. Extremely sweet and likeable.
Dee: Feisty, which makes her both likeable and interesting in my book though she isn't one of the first characters to jump to mind.
Tigh: Tigh Likeable? What crack are you on luv? The man is a petty tyrant and a bully. He's a sore loser, a pathetic drunken slob of an officer. My all around pick, hands down for the winner of the "Can we please toss him out of an airlock now?" award. You call Six evil, but hell at least she's not a detriment to her own damn side.
Zarek: He's sexy and dangerous so I'd give him a three on likeable and a full throttle ten on interesting.
Ellen: My guilty pleasure, Ellen shouldn't be someone I like – but she is. She shouldn't be someone I admire – but she is. She definilty shouldn't be someone I want to frack – but next to Six, there's no one on that ship I would rather. (Unless you're talking long term and then Laura makes her way up onto that list for a neck and neck…. Oooh Ellen and Laura neck and neck – Yumo. (Yeah I know, not cannon but a girl can have her fantasies.) Interesting and despite myself, extremely lickable, er I mean likeable.
Eloja: Whom I can't believe you forgot! She's hot, sexy and priestess material – what's not to like? I find her faith fascinating especially since she's the one most likely to help us learn about the spiritual beliefs of the colonies something I find captivating.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Somewhat Likeable, somewhat dull - the whole "Nice Guy, broom stick up my ass, look at me I think I'm Cyclopes from X-Men." thing just leaves me cold.

I literally laughed out loud when I read that. He just pushes all my buttons: competent, angsty, very emotionally resrved except sometimes with Kara and when he loses his temper, idealist. But then, I love Cyclops from X-men :)

and I still say he's a bleeding hypocrite

Yes. But it's a very human failing. He loves her. And he is beginning to learn not all toasters are the same. But my main feeling towards Helo is largely huge pity. Of all the characters, he's had it the worst: stuck on a Cylon occupied planet, rat in a lab maze, acting on a love he's always had for a woman who is not really her at all etc.

Re: Six. She snapped a baby's neck. That's like the ultimate evil test :) Being human, I find her anti-human attitude unappealing:)

Tigh: I responded about him upthread.

Oooh Ellen and Laura neck and neck

Heh.Maybe with the help of LOTS of ambrosia? :)

Baltar: you know how some people just make your skin creep? That's how he works for me. It's almost an instinctual thing.

Re: Elosha. Yeah, forgot her. I don't know enough about her to really find her either likeable and interesting, or not.

[elemental-fey.livejournal.com]

I literally laughed out loud when I read that. He just pushes all my buttons: competent, angsty, very emotionally resrved except sometimes with Kara and when he loses his temper, idealist. But then, I love Cyclops from X-men :)

Well since we're talking boys and X-Men, I am definitly a Gambit slut. But since I prefer girls on the whole, I am actually much more a Rogue kinda girl. =)

Yes. But it's a very human failing. He loves her. And he is beginning to learn not all toasters are the same.

He was ready to shoot the woman he had fallen in love with until he found out his all mighty man genes were inside her belly. That's not learning he's wrong, that's allowing his arrogance to override his principals. I also don't know that he was in love with Boomer on the ship, I didn't see signs of that until the bonding experience on Earth. I personally think that his feelings are for Caprica Boomer, not Galitica Boomer as they are actually fundamentaly diffrent in a couple of ways.

Re: Six. She snapped a baby's neck. That's like the ultimate evil test :) Being human, I find her anti-human attitude unappealing:)

Ok here's the thing - I see that as a Frankenstein kind of moment. I don't think she actually did it on purpose - I think she was unprepared for the extreme fragility of what she was handeling as I assume there are no Cylon children, and even if they are they would be born much harder to break. Given a Cylon's resting strength I would think that breaking an infants neck would be easy if you didn't know how careful you would have to be.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Re: Helo. Well, he shot her to wound, not to kill. He just wanted her to leave him alone. And no matter how much you hate someone, it would give you pause if you know they are carrying your offspring.

I do think he had incipient feelings for GBoomer, but yes, they came to "fruition" with CBoomer. (He took good care of her when he thought she eas human, as well btw)

Re: Six. I don't know, I think it's a matter of interpretation, so I have no handy argument one way or the other. But she did participate in the mass murder of billions of people, so I am not a huge fan :)

[elemental-fey.livejournal.com]

Re: Six. I don't know, I think it's a matter of interpretation, so I have no handy argument one way or the other. But she did participate in the mass murder of billions of people, so I am not a huge fan :)

She took part in what she perceived to be a war, against a people who had no qualms with creating sentient life and then enslaveing them.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yes, but one wrong does not make it right to commit another one. Most of the people in the Colonies weren't even alive when the last Cylons left. Nope, still don't like her :)

[elemental-fey.livejournal.com]

Right? Nope.
Understandable? I think so.

I wonder if some of the Cylons aren't afraid that the humans might still present a danger to them as long as they live. After all the humans never even tried to apolgize. Perhaps the Cylons see this as a pre-emptive strike.

My point isn't about right or wrong. My point is that the writers of this show have followed true to life in an impressive way - there is more then one side to this story.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

She also has her religious belief. I was just explaining why I don't like her.

[raincitygirl.livejournal.com]

She took part in what she perceived to be a war, against a people who had no qualms with creating sentient life and then enslaveing them.

Hmmm, neat way of putting it. I remember watching an interview with Grace Park where she said she thought of the Cylons as an oppressed race, and I didnt' really buy it at the time, but now that you put Six's attitude towards humans that way, I'm beginning to think she had a point.

I wonder if some of the Cylons aren't afraid that the humans might still present a danger to them as long as they live. After all the humans never even tried to apolgize. Perhaps the Cylons see this as a pre-emptive strike.

Not really with you here, though. If the Cylons had been chased off, the Colonials thought they'd won the war and killed off all the Cylons, but actually they'd fled to a distant planet to recover in hiding, I'd buy it. But there was a formal armistice for forty years, and the Colonies never violated it.

[hobviously.livejournal.com]

Hallo! I quite enjoy your meta-ish comments on BSG and therefore am friending you. Also, whee, another Wilfred Owen fan.

So, uh...hi. :]

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Friended you back :)