Two unrelated Asian Pop thoughts.
fivil linked me to pics from a Shinhwa naked photobook (for those who are, like me, ignorant of matters of pop, Shinhwa is a very popular Korean boyband. I cannot speak as to their musical merits as I haven't heard a note, but the eye candy factor is very much present).
And by naked, I mean naked. Nekkid, nekkid, nekkid. But not just that! Those pics are not just solo shoots. In fact, a large number of them are so incredibly, explicitly homoerotic that in order to get any further on that scale, it would either become: a. outright groping or b. go off the edge and end up completely straight again :)


The thing that amuses and bemuses me, however, is that if an American band (let alone boyband) had pictures like that, they would be done. Finished. Kaput. But this is from an official book, a publication to promote them, get them more notice etc i.e. looking for a positive reaction! And from what I can tell, Shinhwa is quite mainstream and popular, not a niche band just for gay audiences. I don't know, I am sort of intrigued by the concept difference.
Also, that leaves me with two final notes:
a. If you think your job requires you to get close to your coworkers, think again AND
b. Every time I now see Eric Mun in Que Sera Sera, I experience a brief sense of mingled relief and disappointment that he seems to be dressed. Surely that is abnormal for any Shinhwa member.
On an unrelated note, the Edison Chen sex scandal. Apparently, the rumor now is that those pics of Cecilia Cheung with Edison? Were taken either shortly before her marriage to Nic Tse or even after (!!!!) There are, also, of course, rumors of divorce.
OK, what I want to know, is what sane woman would cheat on Nicholas Tse, surely one of the most gorgeous guys in Chinese pop/cinema/dramaworld with Edison Chen? Seriously. WTF? When Nic Tse looks like this. Also, I don't know anything about Nic Tse's personality but unless he is a complete mental case, he's got to be better than someone so sleazy who takes explicit pics of himself with his conquests, shows them off to his buddies, and then is so dimwitted as to take his computer to the shop without bothering to get the pics off. I mean, whatever else, Nicholas Tse has got to be brighter because surely no one could be dumber than that.
And by naked, I mean naked. Nekkid, nekkid, nekkid. But not just that! Those pics are not just solo shoots. In fact, a large number of them are so incredibly, explicitly homoerotic that in order to get any further on that scale, it would either become: a. outright groping or b. go off the edge and end up completely straight again :)


The thing that amuses and bemuses me, however, is that if an American band (let alone boyband) had pictures like that, they would be done. Finished. Kaput. But this is from an official book, a publication to promote them, get them more notice etc i.e. looking for a positive reaction! And from what I can tell, Shinhwa is quite mainstream and popular, not a niche band just for gay audiences. I don't know, I am sort of intrigued by the concept difference.
Also, that leaves me with two final notes:
a. If you think your job requires you to get close to your coworkers, think again AND
b. Every time I now see Eric Mun in Que Sera Sera, I experience a brief sense of mingled relief and disappointment that he seems to be dressed. Surely that is abnormal for any Shinhwa member.
On an unrelated note, the Edison Chen sex scandal. Apparently, the rumor now is that those pics of Cecilia Cheung with Edison? Were taken either shortly before her marriage to Nic Tse or even after (!!!!) There are, also, of course, rumors of divorce.
OK, what I want to know, is what sane woman would cheat on Nicholas Tse, surely one of the most gorgeous guys in Chinese pop/cinema/dramaworld with Edison Chen? Seriously. WTF? When Nic Tse looks like this. Also, I don't know anything about Nic Tse's personality but unless he is a complete mental case, he's got to be better than someone so sleazy who takes explicit pics of himself with his conquests, shows them off to his buddies, and then is so dimwitted as to take his computer to the shop without bothering to get the pics off. I mean, whatever else, Nicholas Tse has got to be brighter because surely no one could be dumber than that.
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Date: 2008-02-16 06:31 am (UTC)Why couldn't Duran Duran have done something like this way back when I was in high school? :D
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Date: 2008-02-16 03:54 pm (UTC)::cleans up keyboard::
not that i second that at all or anything. . . .
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Date: 2008-02-16 04:06 pm (UTC)I think I choked on something.
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Date: 2008-02-16 10:24 am (UTC)Shinhwa is very popular. I mean, a lot of credit can be given to their massively devoted fan club but still, I'd say the mainstream digs them as well. When they came back in late 2007 (after a year of solo activities), a lot of non-fans cheered as well. And recently when 3 members did a talk show (promoting their solo albums) together, the topic of the naked photobook came up and it was like a mix of the members being all "oh god how embarrassing!" and the hosts going, "But you guys look so hot! You have excellent bodies!" (the female hosts of course but the male hosts were also appreciative).
Also, one member was like "I didn't really want to do it.." to which another member replied, "That's not true, you were hesitant at first but said yes to it first, too, because you had the best body among all of us back then."
You're right, an American band and their career would tank. Though of course, I suppose black&white photos taken in a jungle/beach environment could count as more artistic. Though in America having a whole photobook dedicated to your nudity.. Probably would only make you a butt of a joke.
Ironically today is Eric Mun's birthday. He turns 30 in Korean years, I think.
The Edison Chen sex scandal makes me wish I knew who these people were. I know the basics but have never seen them in movies/dramas/music videos. XD
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Date: 2008-02-16 04:10 pm (UTC)Re: photos. It's funny, because I get a magnified version of the same ambivalent reaction I get whenever I see a clothed photoshoot of a celebrity. Part of me finds it voyeuristically fun and the guy hot, but a part of me is rather appalled at the exhibitionism and vanity. And of course, with nudity it gets magnified. Sort of 'keep it private, darnit.'
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Date: 2008-02-16 01:37 pm (UTC)however Nicolas Tse looks a little scary in that picture!
I've always thought the whole DIY porn thing could be sort of sweet, like your bf or dh or so only ever wanted to look at you, but E Chen seems to have taken it to an extreme.
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Date: 2008-02-16 04:07 pm (UTC)I've always thought the whole DIY porn thing could be sort of sweet, like your bf or dh or so only ever wanted to look at you, but E Chen seems to have taken it to an extreme.
Yeah. 1300 pics! Also, a lot of these were exes so keeping it would be in bad taste IMO.
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Date: 2008-02-16 04:31 pm (UTC)OMG! And 99% are probably of himself, or at least one part ;-)
damn those digital cameras.
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Date: 2008-02-16 05:09 pm (UTC)I think it's because asians from korea, japan, taiwan...etc.. grew up where fraternal bonding is much more lax. I mean hell, we do ONSENS (hotsprings) together. Freaking nakedness all the way, not much to worry about :D
RE: Edison vs. Nicholas
What a huge debacle this has become. Cecilia, if she REALLY took those pictures during her marriage to Nic, has no one to blame but herself. I feel bad for them in the sense that their pictures should have remained private, but what she did was just moronic.
As for Edison, he's got bigger problems to worry about, ie: his life (and I'm totally not joking). There are mafia dudes who want him either dead, or castrated. I just hope this thing ends safely for all parties involved.
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Date: 2008-02-17 07:14 am (UTC)Re: onsens, yeah, but in that little holding hands pic, they are probably in even mor eproximity then people are in the onsens. Ehhh, no idea :)
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Date: 2008-02-17 01:17 am (UTC)Listen, I'm a dork and having trouble with my voicemail -- any ETA on tomorrow's Bollywood?
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