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[livejournal.com profile] lesbiassparrow's recent post on romance novels made me remember.

I forgot to mention that I recently read Lover Awakened by J.R. Ward, a supposedly paranormal romance.

I don't know about romance, but there was certainly paranormal powers involved in getting it published.

This literally has to be the worst book I ever read, and considering I read things like 'Abolish Lawyer Tyranny' (a self-published rant about cutting off lawyer arms) and an old cook-book which thought it was a good idea to put mayo on jello, that is saying a lot.

I read it, propelled by 'surely this can't be right, right?' feeling, turning each page in growing wonder at where the author finds the illegal susbstances she clearly needs to get the imagination going, and what kind of blackmailing photos she has on the publishers.

The hero is named Zsadist (!!!!!!) and he was apparently a former sex-slave of evil vampire queen. I think I was supposed to find it tragic, but it was hilarious. The whole book was basically an excuse for supernatural porn, but the author would have done better to omit characters and plot altogether, as the former were laughable and the latter non-existent anyway.

The emo made me want to get them a copy of an Avril Lavigne CD and some black nail-polish except I think even that might have been too sophisticated for the characters.

The heroine existed basically the sexually heal our hero (she went into heat at one point, yes. Indeed) and as to the hero, he might have been named Zsadist, but only Zmasochist would want to read about him.

I don't have high standards! I watch 80s Bollywood movies, for goodness' sake. But this book redefines the benefits of literacy. Some people should not have it. The author of this novel is living proof.

Date: 2008-01-14 02:58 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com
Well, LKH has proved that you can write pointless, gratuitous sex and it will sell better than plot... Maybe this author was trying to balance both? (hahahahah)

Date: 2008-01-14 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I wonder what would happen if you stuck these authors into a deathmatch. hmmm...

Date: 2008-01-14 05:18 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com
Anne Rice would still win. ;)

Date: 2008-01-14 03:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] morwen_peredhil
Zsadist

...

That says it all, really.

Date: 2008-01-14 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Basically. Also, I want to know what kind of parent gives his kid such a name?

Date: 2008-01-14 05:15 am (UTC)
morwen_peredhil: (sergeant scream wtf)
From: [personal profile] morwen_peredhil
Maybe he's Zsadist Junior?

Date: 2008-01-14 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
But his twin brother is named Phury. Oh man, that author loves her h letters...

H is for hack.

Date: 2008-01-14 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I know. They are the most dreadful things I have ever read. BUT I HAVE STILL READ FOUR OF THEM.

Date: 2008-01-14 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
It's because they're SUPPOSED to be bad. It's why you can't stop reading.

I maintain that to prep herself for writing, she turns on Buffy(probably season 6) picks up the 2 worst paranormal romances she can find to read to the background noise, takes note of all the really bad stuff, then downs some vodka and gets to work. While keeping more vodka on hand.

Date: 2008-01-14 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
Is the one about the one-legged one out yet? I am most fascinated by what she's going to do with him.

Date: 2008-01-14 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Nope. Book 5 is Vishous(apparently he gets over Butch really, really fast)

Personally, I hope she offs Phury(whiny one legged guy)

I can only tolerate him when he's doing things like blowing off his leg or scarring himself to save his brother...

Date: 2008-01-14 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
And his name is Phury. And he is celibate. He was the other one lusting after the heroine in the one you read.

Oh, and according to book 4, they rename themselves. Butch(the cop) is now, against all the rules of that universe, a vampire and member of the brotherhood and his new name is Dehstroyer.

In this lifetime, I will never be convinced it's not all deliberate.

Date: 2008-01-14 05:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] plazmah.livejournal.com
Dehstroyer...?

*ded from laughter*

Date: 2008-01-14 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
As did I. Especially since it came on the heals of what I think was an indoctrination orgy with the goddess of the vampire race looking on and cackling. Which came on the heals of Ward cackling madly at the keyboard while deliberately making the character the ultimate Gary Stu...BECAUSE HE SUCKS UP THE SOULS OF SLAYERS AND MAKES THEIR BODIES DISINTEGRATE, MAKING HIM THE SAVIOR OF THE VAMPIRE RACE.

This is on top of his...never mind.

There is no end to the badbadbadbadbad crack of these books.

Date: 2008-01-14 08:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I am taking notes for my own definitively angsty paranormal series. Everyone will have at least 5 curses and have been miserable for at least 500 years. There will be tremendous amounts of brooding and stalking. Some of it may be one legged.

Date: 2008-01-14 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeroplane.livejournal.com
That's not what Amazon says about it! In fact, "Ward spins her take on Beauty and the Beast into a raw, gritty tour de force, creating an array of ugliness and beauty, pain and pleasure in a tale that sparks enough plot stunners to keep readers fascinated for years to come."

so, you'll be remembering this book for YEARS. God, I wonder what the other characters' names were. Nothing can top Zsadist!

Date: 2008-01-14 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
*snort* I actually like this book(I've never claimed to have taste) and can attest to how absurd that is.

It's probably one of the people who scream like a madwoman when Ward logs into the chatroom at her website as one of the heroes(the website is the scariest thing known to mankind)

Date: 2008-01-14 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeroplane.livejournal.com
...she logs in as one of the heroes?! That is the most amazing thing I've heard, she definitely tops Stephenie Meyer on fangirling her on books!

I was curious so I checked out her website. Wow. I love how she has a glossary and how she alternates between "Zsadist" and simply "Z". this is great, SHE INTERVIEWS THE CHARACTERS. -_-

Date: 2008-01-14 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
ROFL. Yeah, in the books, they call Zsadist Z and Vishous V.

Honestly...I truly believe that the books are spawned of her being fed up with the genre and the fans and going "ok, fine, you want tall emo gorgeous pseudogoth romantic vampires with silly names? I'LL GIVE YOU THE MOST EXTREME VERSION OF THEM HUMANLY POSSIBLE!!" Reading the books and poking around the website(not that I've ever lasted more than 10 minutes there) it seems really obvious that she thinks paranormal romances and its fans are just stupid. The series is really only going to appeal to 2 varieties of people: Those who are generally fed up with the genre but keep reading it and like reading something that's all about how cliche and stupid the genre can be, no matter how much it makes them "WTF?" and the mindless hordes who will gobble up anything in the genre. The people who just like the genre and don't mind(or like) the cliches but who have nice, functioning brains are going to run away screaming.

Date: 2008-01-14 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aeroplane.livejournal.com
okay, that's much more plausible because I doubt any sane person who could write about a one-legged vampire and with names after nouns/verbs be completely serious. At least I hope not. I give props to her on creativity (lots and lots of it). I kind of...want to read the books now though.

Date: 2008-01-14 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Oh, it's what I've though since I started the first book, and I've only become more and more convinced of it as I continue. The books are...well, you just have to remember that they're supposed to be bad, and that they're spawned by annoyance. And vodka. And, I suspect, Season 6 of Buffy.

There's also her author photo. It scares me. She stares at me and it's like she's literally trying to suck out my soul and devour it and turn me into a zombie.

Date: 2008-01-14 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Megan...watch Legend! I just started and it is so your thing!

Date: 2008-01-14 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Don't worry, it's been on the list since before it started airing.

I should have a dollar for every time someone told me this was my thing. I wouldn't have to work for a year.

...

Can I have a dollar for every time someone has told me to watch Legend?

Date: 2008-01-14 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvensapphire.livejournal.com
she definitely tops Stephenie Meyer on fangirling her on books! You have no idea how hard that just made me laugh. Meyer drives me batshit - she's ruined her own books for me. *headdesk*

I'm using my Twilight icon, just to show that I have no shame. xD

Date: 2008-01-15 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
Does Meyer really fangirl herself? I mean, I shouldn't be surprised -- I can hear her humming "I'm so clever with all these Gothic lit references!" in my head as I read her books -- but... Where? Anywhere I can read?

Apparently I'm the Zmasochist.

Date: 2008-01-15 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvensapphire.livejournal.com
It's not so much what she says as how she says it. Her press releases are often patronizing towards her readers and self-glorifying in the same breath, and it's clear she's in love with her own characters by the things she says about them (Jacob, for example) and the Mary Sue-isms she inserts into Bella's mouth. Edward's "sparkling shining perfect glowing wonderful AMAZING beautiful glorious topaz eyes of LOVELINESS AND WONDER" and his "perfect shining sparkling wonderful glowing amazing godlike glorious wonderful marble skin of UNSPEAKABLE LOVELINESS" - enough already, woman! We get it. You're in love with your own characters. Get.over.it. Her writing became second to her own literal fangirling and completely ruined any integrity her stories might have had. All of Eclipse basically equates to, "I'm Stephenie Meyer and want to adopt a werewolf and have a vampire sex me kthx." Browse through her Myspace/website/things she's said on the Twilight lexicon (if you dare! muahaha!) sometime, and you'll see it all in between the lines.

Also, I love how she gets on her high horse and says Twilight is an allusion to Pride and Prejudice, New Moon to Romeo and Juliet, and Eclipse to Wuthering Heights. Oh, and Breaking Dawn will apparently equate to A Midsummer Night's Dream. Um. Sure. Maybe on the very loosest of levels (like, in NM Edward and Bella are both stupid teenagers willing to commit suicide for each other; or, in Eclipse, Bella is a self-centered, whiny brat as Catherine can often be), otherwise...I don't see it.

And keep in mind, this comes from someone who was a Twilight fangirl. But the fandom and Meyer's faulty writing in the third novel totally jaded me. I still love the first two books, but only in the quiet of my own little room. The fandom and the author are batty, and once the third novel hit, I was done. "Gentleman, I wash my hands of this weirdness!" ;D

Date: 2008-01-14 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
She also has characters named Rhage, Rehvenge and Ahgony. I think there was a sale on letter 'h' that day. Ugh.

meganbmoore might be correct and she might be doing it sarcastically, but you can't tell it because it's blindingly awful and unsarcastic either way. Ugh.

Date: 2008-01-14 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitsune714.livejournal.com
...Zsadist. That wins ALL.

Date: 2008-01-14 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Seriously. I mean, I watch idol dramas, I am not picky. But this!

Date: 2008-01-14 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
LOL at icon.

But yes, exactly. it's horrific.

Date: 2008-01-14 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvensapphire.livejournal.com
I see things like this and think, "If that can get published, so can I!" Honestly. How do novels like this get through the system?

Date: 2008-01-14 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Apparently those books sell like hotcapes. *facepalm*

Date: 2008-01-14 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvensapphire.livejournal.com
That makes me want to cry. I kid you not. It's rather horrifying.

Oh, the humanity! *headdesk*

I'm about to see Atonement - I'm excited because I know you loved it, and most everyone else does, too.

Date: 2008-01-14 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vierran45.livejournal.com
Oh dear! This sounds so awfully bad that I'm almost tempted to check it out... Almost.

The names! ROTFL! I have no words!

Date: 2008-01-14 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Seriously, don't. You will regret it.

Date: 2008-01-14 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wednesdaya.livejournal.com
LMAO! Zsadist!!! That alone should have stopped it from being published.

Date: 2008-01-14 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Seriously, how drunk was her editor?

Date: 2008-01-15 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
*grin* Now that you're done, to you want some good supernatural romance recs or what?

*tempts*

Date: 2008-01-15 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yes please. look at it this way: no way to go but up :)

Date: 2008-01-16 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
Question after seeing your frustration with high fantasy:

Do you want urban fantasy recs (I.e., books which often deal with the supernatural but don't hold up the romance as end all and be all) or paranormal romance recs (books where the point is getting the girl/guy together with bumpy creature of the night)?

Date: 2008-01-16 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Either is fine, actually. Urban is even better, but bumpity-bump romance is good too.

I mean, I made it the whole way through 'Zsadist' and that was eye-searing. I will read almost anything :)

Date: 2008-01-16 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
Awesome!

If you haven't read any of the following, let me know and I'll lend you:

War for the Oaks (UF)
The Silver Kiss (Young Adult paranormal romance -- my favorite kind. All the angst, none of the smut.)
Blood and Chocolate (YA PR)
Bitten (PR)
Moon Called (PR)

Popular UF authors include:

Charles deLint
Emma Bull (if you like Westerns, she supposedly came out with a fantastic one recently)
Anything in the Bordertown series, edited by Terri Windling, I highly recommend

I have a bunch of others, but I don't think they're your taste. They're, um, well, there's a reason I like horror films.

Date: 2008-01-16 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Ooooh, thanks for the recs!

I tried one of Charles De Lint's books and liked it, despite being brain-dead at the time. So yay on more.

I love Emma Bull's 'Freedom and necessity' with an unholy passion. So thank you for reminding me of her!

Date: 2008-01-16 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
Emma Bull is fantastic! Her new one Territory is getting raves, and War for the Oaks is also hers.

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