Fic love

[dangermousie]

OMG. I am now reading По Ту Сторону Рассвета ("On the other side of the dawn," the Beren/Luthien fic I mentioned earlier) and it just might be the best fic I ever read.

I wonder if the author of this is some sort of Russian BNF, sort of like Cassandra Claire was in Harry Potter fandom, only as far as I am aware, this author didn't plagiarize.

OMG.

BEREEEEEEEEEEEN.

Now I am frustrated that so few people on my flist read Russian....

egelantier, you might have to hold my hand through all the angst and h/c.

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[fivil.livejournal.com]

You could contact the author and ask for translation permission. :D

Though a) I know it wouldn't be the same and b) translating long fics is a biiiiiitch. I tried to translate one fic of mine from Finnish to English and it turned out a completely hopeless task - the language switch portrayed such a different message. Or maybe I just suck at translating.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

That fic is like 800 pages long. The thought of translating it is...no way :)

[fivil.livejournal.com]

Holy crap! The longest fic I ever wrote was maybe 30 pages on Word. The longest I ever read, hmm, 79 perhaps. 800 is the definition of devotion. Very fitting to Tolkien-fic.

Unrelated but am curious: do you own Meteor Garden on DVD? What type of DVD (fansubs, pirated)? I'm not buying it - yet - but am veeeery close to considering it seriously as it's becoming one of those "bed or one more ep? one more ep!" dramas for me. Also, I just spent an embarrassingly long time talking to the characters in my commentary post on LJ. It's weird. I love it.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

OMG, you did a MG post? I must read it!

I own two sets. One official one, but the subs (while not crazy) can be dodgy at times. And one a burned copy with excellent subs. I can link you to that seller if you like.

[egelantier.livejournal.com]

I'm quite ready to hold your hand through. nobody held mine when Finrod died (it's not technically a spoiler, right?), and I wailed for literally half an hour. damn, just remembering this makes my throat tighten.

and Olga evokes somehow conflicted feelings in TOlkien fandom - she is very sharp and outspoken person, and while some fans admire her, some hates her with passion. and she's clearly Catholic and distinctly anti-slash, which does rouse some animosity.
her previous journal was morreth - there's a lot of interesting essays and discussions there.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Oh, it's not a spoiler. I read Silmarillion ages ago, and remember being upset as all get-out when Finrod died. He is probably one of my favorite Silmarillion characters. Him and Maedhros are my favorites.

and Olga evokes somehow conflicted feelings in TOlkien fandom

All BNFs usually do.

As long as I like the person's fic, I don't particularly care about their views and I love this fic. Beren is so messed up and with h/c up the wazoo but not in a 'let me sit by a tree and be emo like a 12 year old girl' way.

[egelantier.livejournal.com]

she writes absolutely amazing Finrod - wise and noble and bright, but not this annoying gary-stueish saccharine and over-saintly version Russian fandom is so fond off. and she's also the one person who made me love Celebern (and he has, like, one page of appearance), and her Galadhriel is to die for; and she really makes these ten Elves who left with Finrod alive and amazing (and then kills them, damn this canon).

and Beren, Beren, Beren. and kick-ass Luthien. and finding faith in the end. really, I've never read anything even remotely so good in this fandom.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

(and then kills them, damn this canon).

Yeah, anything based on Silmarillion is going to be depressing.

*prepares to swoon for Finrod whom she has swooned for before anyway*

and Beren, Beren, Beren.

I am madly crushing on him even so far (I am in the really early part, when he is staying in the woods and haven't met Luthien for the second time yet, just that one brief meeting). He so need counselling and meds though.

So good.

I am in love with this fic.

[egelantier.livejournal.com]

he'll be in serious need of deep therapy befor he's through. there's one plot twist that isn't in canon at all, but that almost destroys him completely... and strings you along. won't spoil you for it, but be prepared to extreme, heavy-duty angst.
(good thing about her angst? it can be very severe, but there's never a sign of self-puty and 'see how beautifully I suffer' in her heroes. they're just so mature, it's amazing).

one more link before I'm off to sleep - it's Белый by Lora, which is basically events of Quenta Silmarillion in Galadriel POV. it's concidered 'White Book of Arda' by some fans, and it does provides some amazing insights in her character. after this one I, for example, suddenly thought differently about her helping Aragorn and Arwen get together, and fighting Sauron - she does basically the same thing Finrod died for, this interracial star-crossed marriage, and she has a very personal grudge with Sauron - he killed her brother..
and so on and so on. it's surprisingly good

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

OMG, you mean he will need more therapy than he does already?

*prepares self*

I mean this bit already made me die: - Долгое время я... не чувствовал боли... Потому что был... мертвым, - в руках его хрустнула, ломаясь, сухая веточка. - Так было нужно, потому что... мертвец неуязвим. Я так думал. Я привык быть мертвым. Мне не нужно было бояться за свою жизнь, думать о том, что я буду есть завтра, не схватят ли меня... Что бы ни случилось - я могу перестать двигаться, говорить, сражаться, но мертвее, чем я есть, уже не стану... Это и в самом деле страшно, госпожа Соловушка, но быть живым было еще страшнее... Но вот - случилось что-то, и я понял, что обманывал себя. Что я - живой, что я должен чувствовать боль, иначе я... Я стану хуже волколака. Мертвые должны лежать в земле, а живые должны ходить по земле и чувствовать боль. Если ты возьмешь ее у меня - я боюсь, что опять не буду знать, живой я или мертвый.

and it wasn't even heavy duty. Yikes.

'see how beautifully I suffer' in her heroes. they're just so mature, it's amazing

That's what I love too, no spoiled wallowing. Messed up or not, the man is a professional guerilla/nobleman/warrior, he is not going to sound like a 20 year old modern girl :)

Thanks for the link.

Re: Galadriel. You know, I never thought about it: she does basically the same thing Finrod died for, this interracial star-crossed marriage, and she has a very personal grudge with Sauron - he killed her brother.. but that is absolutely right. Wow.

[egelantier.livejournal.com]

no sleeping yet, again -)

ha, he's practically whole and healthy at this point. wait until they'll go under Shadow...

also, watch out for Rusko. this is one completely original character, and some readers loves him more than anybody else - and for a good reasons too.

also, watch out for really, really good polemic with Black Book of Arda. so clever, I loved it.

also, Maedhros. incredible Maedhros, much as I dislike feanorings as a whole.

really, there're so many good points to this book, I can't count them all -)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

You are up late! :)

ha, he's practically whole and healthy at this point. wait until they'll go under Shadow...

OMG. *shudder* He is going to have it worse? OMG. *braces self* I mean, there is only so much h/c and angst a girl can take.

Maedhros. incredible Maedhros, much as I dislike feanorings as a whole.

I can't stand Feanorings (bunch of annoying gits like their father) but I love Maedhros. He is the only one of that nutzo family that I love. (And no, not just because he was horribly tortured by Morgoth for ages and ages. I just love him generally, as he was so awesome. Someone should write a good fic about him).

[egelantier.livejournal.com]

Maedhros definitely was sanest and noblest of all Feanorings, oh yes. I guess all this years of torture really did something good for him - like, burned out most of craziness. and you'll love him here, I promise. but I've never read any good Maedhros fic too.

and Beren? pretty soon he'll be remembering this time in the woods and his state of mind as easy-going and healthy, I'm telling you. the sheer amount of mindfucking he'll have to go through later (Sauron, remember? he likes head games a lot) is incredible, and for some time things go from bleak to bleaker. and then dungeon, yeah.

here, have some extremely good Aragorn fanfic as a rest. it's h/c, too, but of more comforting ones.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

guess all this years of torture really did something good for him - like, burned out most of craziness.

Yeah, and plus he was already saner than the rest even before because he wanted to turn back on the ice to save his friend when the burning of the ships occurred.

I remember a hilarious 'diary of Feanor' fic a long time ago, where Maedhros featured but don't remember where it was which is a pity.

for some time things go from bleak to bleaker. and then dungeon, yeah.


*braces self*

and thanks for the fic link!

[egelantier.livejournal.com]

you're very welcome. so, are you further in a story by now? it's fascinating to watch somebody to read it for the first time -)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I am on ch 3, where he meets that kid and they escape from traders. Really good so far.

P.S.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Ohhhh. I just got to the point where he met her again and called her by her name and...


*swooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon* for that whole scene.

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[egelantier.livejournal.com]

treasure it while you can -) they'll get separated for the very long time, after all (I hate Thingol so much in this story. really, how much more stupid and cruel can you be? although he redeems himself a little in the end).

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[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

But then she comes to find him in the dungeons. OMG, one of my favorite scenes in all of Silmarillion (that and Maedhros' rescue from the mountain).

Thingol=diediediedie.

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[egelantier.livejournal.com]

ah. erm. about this dungeons scene. you might need lots of chocolate and Kleenex at this point, I warn you. thread carefully )

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[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

OMG. *braces self* I guess I shouldn't read it around in public then....

I think ym weekend is booked in reading this...