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dangermousieI adore the new (to me) Tenth Doctor. Watched not only ‘The Christmas Invasion’ but the ep following last night, because couldn’t have just one.
OMG. How come I waited so long! There is nothing as awesome as watching Dr. Who with Mr. Mousie, both of us loving it to the bottom of our geeky hearts. I am sure I have mentioned before that I adore Rose Tyler and Billie Piper. But in case I haven’t? I do. When I grow up, I want to be like Rose Tyler. Only I am already grown up, so I guess it’s a missed opportunity after all.
And David Tennant? Oh my. I loved Christopher Eccleston in the role. And the pics I’ve seen of David Tennant weren’t particularly preposessing, you know? But I guess he is one of those people who is telegenic and not photogentic, because from his entrance on, he blew me away. (Oh, and yeah, he is devastatingly attractive, in a rumpled intellectual kinda way). Ten and Rose share crackling good chemistry, too. It’s different than the one with Nine and Rose. More flirty, less desperate?
But then this is a different Doctor, too, isn’t he? Nine was hard, but it came across as shell-shock. Ten? Is much harder. In his off-kilter, charming way, he is infinitely scarier, edgier than Nine. I would not cross him for anything.
I loved both eps entirely too much. Sure, there were plenty of plotholes, but the ideas, and the cohesion was there.
I feel quite sorry for Mickey. Rose doesn’t love him, does she? She is willing to leave him to go traipsing all over the place with a man she has a platonic love relationship with. Must sting.
And that’s the thing. Rose loves the Doctor (her reaction to his changing from Nine to Ten is almost that of as to a loved one’s abandonment). I don’t know if it’s romantic love (though it’s made repeatedly clear she finds him attractive) but she loves being with him, and places she can go, and companionship she has. It’s basically friends with attractiveness thrown in.
And it’s nice to see that this Doctor also finds Rose crucial (his fixation on getting her body-swap reversed are pretty clear. Or the fact that he wakes up out of his coma, when she asks for help). In a very different way, he needs her to keep his ‘humanity’ as much as Nine ever did.
I loved the ending with the Prime Minister. Bleak, isn’t it? I actually don’t blame Harriet Jones for doing what she did, but the Doctor has the fury of a disappointed idealist. I love the confrontation between them.
In the Cassandra ep, I am struck by his genuine joy when he can actually save, as opposed to destroy. And by the flirty, relaxed feel between him and Rose.
Can’t wait to watch more tonight.
In other, drama news:
The Outsiders really is a story about your good qualities being your weekenesses, isn’t it? Because Ah Hao’s sense of honor, his loyalty to those he considers close, is normally a wonderful thing. But in the cutthroat world he is in, it’s a huge detriment.
I am thinking of the scene where Danzi comes and finds him and tells him he will bring Yu Yen back to him only on the condition that Ah Hao gives up the gang. And I love that Ah Hao doesn’t hesitate for a second (just as Yu Yen’s nightmare cleared her priorities for her. On it below), Yu Yen’s almost loss cleared Ah Hao’s priorities. He immediately agrees. (And you know if he gives his word he will do his utmost to keep it). I love when he says, in effect, ‘when she comes back, whatever she says, goes.’ But (and leaving aside the fact that it’s not so easy to leave the mob. Danzi was a low-level who went to jail, and had the powerful Ah Hao to protect him when he withdrew), he adds, anxiously, whether he can have until the end of the month because Beo Ge challenged the gang and he needs to keep it together for Xiong Ge. And Danzi agrees. Oh man. It makes me want to weep, to think of all that energy and honor and purpose so misdirected and wasted.
Did I mention that I adore Danzi? He just might be my favorite ‘other guy’ in any drama. And I love the point the story makes (though never overtly) that your heart doesn’t necessarily lead you into more compatible places. Danzi and Yu Yen are incredibly compatible, generally, aren’t they (even Hong Do points it out)? Much more so then the refined, quiet, bookish and delicate Yu Yen is with the extraverted, rough-around-the-edges firebrand Ah Hao. But yet Yu Yen loves Ah Hao, not Danzi and it makes complete sense. I keep thinking of the scene where Yu Yen has the nightmare of Ah Hao being killed in front of her eyes, and wakes up screaming, and Danzi rushes in, and comforts her, and he basically confesses his feelings and tells her if she wants, he will take her away from this place and this life. And Yu Yen’s quiet, devastated (at hurting him) response is that after everything, these are words she longs to hear. But from Ah Hao. Still from Ah Hao. And she tells her nightmare to Danzi and says it made her confront her priorities and her feelings.
The secondary OTP is adorable, btw. With the strong Hong Do falling apart when she thinks Yu Yen might die, and Ah Qi comforting her. EEEE! And she proposes to him and he deflects. Heh.
Oh, and Mainland Girl? Go away. I understand that loving someone who doesn’t love you back is sucky. But he has never ever given you any indication that he sees you in any way romantic. He doesn’t see you as anything other than someone who needed help which he gave, and someone who reminded him a little of a younger version of the woman he loves. How about you repay his repeated saving of your life but stopping trying to wreck his? Thanks.
And I am thinking about first ep of Japanese version of Hana Kimi. I’ve enjoyed it, and will continue to liveblog, but I do prefer the Taiwanese version. And that brought something home to me: I generally prefer Taiwanese adaptation of manga to Japanese ones. My favorite drama is, after all, the former: Mars (yeah, I decided The Outsiders is second after all. It’s a little too bleak to win over hard-won hopefulness of Mars).
Part of it is simply that Taiwanese dramas seem to be more faithful adaptations of the manga (Mars, Meteor Garden, Devil Beside You, Hana Kimi etc) versus the rather free-wheeling approach of jdrama adaptations (Hanadan was very loose inside the same structure and Hana Kimi looks similar).
But generally, I just like the Taiwanese adaptations better. I adored Hanadan, but not half so much as I loved Meteor Garden. Taiwanese ‘It Started with a Kiss’ is one of the delights of the drama world, but Itazura No Kiss is not very good. This new Hana Kimi is fun, but it (to be fair, at least so far) doesn’t have the pure sugar-spun cracky goodness of the Taiwanese version. Odd.
And I close with bringing you caps.
Of The Outsiders eps 16-17.
Confronting Ah Hao about Mainland Girl and thinking she will believe any explanation:
And here we get to the point:
Yu Yen is packing to leave:
After meeting Mainland Girl:
Danzi in the hospital:
Oh Man:
Woobie!
Pissed off woobie:
At her bedside:
Secondary OTP:
Yum:
Danzi confessing:
Ah Hao saying he’ll give up the mob:
Yum:
Btw, subs for these eps are courtesy of![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
lainemma
Also, I had a couple of Why Why Love caps so here they are.
Cast:
OMG. How come I waited so long! There is nothing as awesome as watching Dr. Who with Mr. Mousie, both of us loving it to the bottom of our geeky hearts. I am sure I have mentioned before that I adore Rose Tyler and Billie Piper. But in case I haven’t? I do. When I grow up, I want to be like Rose Tyler. Only I am already grown up, so I guess it’s a missed opportunity after all.
And David Tennant? Oh my. I loved Christopher Eccleston in the role. And the pics I’ve seen of David Tennant weren’t particularly preposessing, you know? But I guess he is one of those people who is telegenic and not photogentic, because from his entrance on, he blew me away. (Oh, and yeah, he is devastatingly attractive, in a rumpled intellectual kinda way). Ten and Rose share crackling good chemistry, too. It’s different than the one with Nine and Rose. More flirty, less desperate?
But then this is a different Doctor, too, isn’t he? Nine was hard, but it came across as shell-shock. Ten? Is much harder. In his off-kilter, charming way, he is infinitely scarier, edgier than Nine. I would not cross him for anything.
I loved both eps entirely too much. Sure, there were plenty of plotholes, but the ideas, and the cohesion was there.
I feel quite sorry for Mickey. Rose doesn’t love him, does she? She is willing to leave him to go traipsing all over the place with a man she has a platonic love relationship with. Must sting.
And that’s the thing. Rose loves the Doctor (her reaction to his changing from Nine to Ten is almost that of as to a loved one’s abandonment). I don’t know if it’s romantic love (though it’s made repeatedly clear she finds him attractive) but she loves being with him, and places she can go, and companionship she has. It’s basically friends with attractiveness thrown in.
And it’s nice to see that this Doctor also finds Rose crucial (his fixation on getting her body-swap reversed are pretty clear. Or the fact that he wakes up out of his coma, when she asks for help). In a very different way, he needs her to keep his ‘humanity’ as much as Nine ever did.
I loved the ending with the Prime Minister. Bleak, isn’t it? I actually don’t blame Harriet Jones for doing what she did, but the Doctor has the fury of a disappointed idealist. I love the confrontation between them.
In the Cassandra ep, I am struck by his genuine joy when he can actually save, as opposed to destroy. And by the flirty, relaxed feel between him and Rose.
Can’t wait to watch more tonight.
In other, drama news:
The Outsiders really is a story about your good qualities being your weekenesses, isn’t it? Because Ah Hao’s sense of honor, his loyalty to those he considers close, is normally a wonderful thing. But in the cutthroat world he is in, it’s a huge detriment.
I am thinking of the scene where Danzi comes and finds him and tells him he will bring Yu Yen back to him only on the condition that Ah Hao gives up the gang. And I love that Ah Hao doesn’t hesitate for a second (just as Yu Yen’s nightmare cleared her priorities for her. On it below), Yu Yen’s almost loss cleared Ah Hao’s priorities. He immediately agrees. (And you know if he gives his word he will do his utmost to keep it). I love when he says, in effect, ‘when she comes back, whatever she says, goes.’ But (and leaving aside the fact that it’s not so easy to leave the mob. Danzi was a low-level who went to jail, and had the powerful Ah Hao to protect him when he withdrew), he adds, anxiously, whether he can have until the end of the month because Beo Ge challenged the gang and he needs to keep it together for Xiong Ge. And Danzi agrees. Oh man. It makes me want to weep, to think of all that energy and honor and purpose so misdirected and wasted.
Did I mention that I adore Danzi? He just might be my favorite ‘other guy’ in any drama. And I love the point the story makes (though never overtly) that your heart doesn’t necessarily lead you into more compatible places. Danzi and Yu Yen are incredibly compatible, generally, aren’t they (even Hong Do points it out)? Much more so then the refined, quiet, bookish and delicate Yu Yen is with the extraverted, rough-around-the-edges firebrand Ah Hao. But yet Yu Yen loves Ah Hao, not Danzi and it makes complete sense. I keep thinking of the scene where Yu Yen has the nightmare of Ah Hao being killed in front of her eyes, and wakes up screaming, and Danzi rushes in, and comforts her, and he basically confesses his feelings and tells her if she wants, he will take her away from this place and this life. And Yu Yen’s quiet, devastated (at hurting him) response is that after everything, these are words she longs to hear. But from Ah Hao. Still from Ah Hao. And she tells her nightmare to Danzi and says it made her confront her priorities and her feelings.
The secondary OTP is adorable, btw. With the strong Hong Do falling apart when she thinks Yu Yen might die, and Ah Qi comforting her. EEEE! And she proposes to him and he deflects. Heh.
Oh, and Mainland Girl? Go away. I understand that loving someone who doesn’t love you back is sucky. But he has never ever given you any indication that he sees you in any way romantic. He doesn’t see you as anything other than someone who needed help which he gave, and someone who reminded him a little of a younger version of the woman he loves. How about you repay his repeated saving of your life but stopping trying to wreck his? Thanks.
And I am thinking about first ep of Japanese version of Hana Kimi. I’ve enjoyed it, and will continue to liveblog, but I do prefer the Taiwanese version. And that brought something home to me: I generally prefer Taiwanese adaptation of manga to Japanese ones. My favorite drama is, after all, the former: Mars (yeah, I decided The Outsiders is second after all. It’s a little too bleak to win over hard-won hopefulness of Mars).
Part of it is simply that Taiwanese dramas seem to be more faithful adaptations of the manga (Mars, Meteor Garden, Devil Beside You, Hana Kimi etc) versus the rather free-wheeling approach of jdrama adaptations (Hanadan was very loose inside the same structure and Hana Kimi looks similar).
But generally, I just like the Taiwanese adaptations better. I adored Hanadan, but not half so much as I loved Meteor Garden. Taiwanese ‘It Started with a Kiss’ is one of the delights of the drama world, but Itazura No Kiss is not very good. This new Hana Kimi is fun, but it (to be fair, at least so far) doesn’t have the pure sugar-spun cracky goodness of the Taiwanese version. Odd.
And I close with bringing you caps.
Of The Outsiders eps 16-17.
Confronting Ah Hao about Mainland Girl and thinking she will believe any explanation:
And here we get to the point:
Yu Yen is packing to leave:
After meeting Mainland Girl:
Danzi in the hospital:
Oh Man:
Woobie!
Pissed off woobie:
At her bedside:
Secondary OTP:
Yum:
Danzi confessing:
Ah Hao saying he’ll give up the mob:
Yum:
Btw, subs for these eps are courtesy of
lainemmaAlso, I had a couple of Why Why Love caps so here they are.
Cast:
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Date: 2007-07-05 06:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-07-05 06:40 pm (UTC)mostly what you post about so it's all
LOL. Sorry. I go in stages. Actually I just got hooked on Hana Kimi :P
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Date: 2007-07-05 06:35 pm (UTC)As far as manga adaptations go, I think Taiwanese ones definitely have heart, whereas Japanese are more ..I don't know, technically better? Hua Yang is cracky and cheesy on purpose, but also because that's what tw idol drama usually is (it's either that or mind-breakingly angsty).
My favourite manga-to-drama adaptation is the Japanese Nodame Cantabile because the drama > the manga, and I couldn't even imagine a Taiwanese version of it rocking (the actors would have to know how to play instruments and somehow I doubt they could find good enough actors with good enough music skills), but generally, yes, very much prefer tw.
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Date: 2007-07-05 07:19 pm (UTC)btw, any progress with Meteor Garden?
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Date: 2007-07-05 07:26 pm (UTC)So again for the second time...
I also prefer the taiwanese versions though i suspect the lack of a language barrier may be why. the thing is that they are very often working on a much lower budget and so there is this really unpolished look to them that is oddly endearing. the lack of seriousness, the cheesiness and the tongue in cheek, nudge-nudge-wink-wink nature of them is addictive. they seem to understand the nature of the beast, so to speak and have no illusions of grandeur with respect to their fan-base or acting.
As for Dr Who, let's just say that the BOYFRIEND, who grew up watching it...that he shed tears and went all quiet at the end of S2. You might like to take this as an indication of the angstiness of it...
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Date: 2007-07-05 09:58 pm (UTC)Have I mentioned my undying envy btw? there all these dramas out there (Outsider 2, Love Storm, Marry Me, Emerald on the Roof, Sword Stained with Royal Blood) that I want to watch but am hindered as I do not understand Mandarin.
Woe.
have no illusions of grandeur with respect to their fan-base or acting.
I agree. maybe that is why I find them so appealing. Post modernism? :)
Re: Dr Who. Can't wait!
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Date: 2007-07-05 10:56 pm (UTC)but seriously, he reminds me of a lecturer that i had a crush on during my university days...same hair, same cheeky grin, same tall thin frame...eee!!!
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Date: 2007-07-06 04:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-07-05 07:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-07-05 09:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-07-05 07:46 pm (UTC)And don't think I'll be watching The Outsiders. What gets me through angst is the hope/expectation of overwhelming giddiness to make it being worthwhile. I don't think Outsiders can do that for me...
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Date: 2007-07-05 09:59 pm (UTC)TO doesn't have a happy ending. It's not as depressing as Bali or ALTK or a bunch of others but yeah...not much on giddy. Except for ep 5. That's gidy attack.
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Date: 2007-07-05 08:48 pm (UTC)Ten is a whole new kettle of fish than Nine though. Nine had a desperate coming apart at the seams quality to him. Ten doesn't. Ten is scarier because he doesn't. He has all the rage of Nine only he knows what to do with it. As he says in one episode, "I used to have so much mercy". He's through with that now. You cross him, you will pay. On the other hand, DT is also a lot more flighty and goofy than CE was, which gives Ten the strangest manic quality. It's really unsettling, but perfect for the Doctor.
I think the Doctor, in his own way, loves each of his companions, but because he is what he is, he has to watch them all leave him. He is "the lonely god". He puts everyone around him in danger, yet his need to be with someone overrides his guilt about endangering them and the knowledge that eventually there will be the pain of leaving them behind. He plunges into every relationship KNOWING he will get hurt, but desperately needing to connect with someone.
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Date: 2007-07-05 10:00 pm (UTC)Nine had a desperate coming apart at the seams quality to him. Ten doesn't. Ten is scarier because he doesn't
Exactly.
I love the whole off-hand way he kills the leader of invading aliens. 'No second chances.'
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Date: 2007-07-05 09:02 pm (UTC)but yes, i will admit the chemistry for s.2 with Rose and Ten is an improvement. which only proves that Nine is my doctor, not hers anyway, so .. uh, ahem.
i think i need to sit this weekend and marathon s.3 now that it is complete. and SciFi is airing it starting tomorrow!
and as much as i love jdrama because of the familiarity and joy of watching japanese life, i am going to have to get some twdrama under my belt for language practice. my sister is moving to china next month, and hello, vacation destination for the next three years!
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Date: 2007-07-05 10:01 pm (UTC)I loved CE. But I think I'll love DT too.
some twdrama under my belt for language practice
Have fun!
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Date: 2007-07-06 12:15 am (UTC)I do like DT, and he is easy on the eyes, but i'm just not seeing the sex0r that everyone else seems to. something very "schoolboy-ish" remains under there for me, despite the added level of anger.
ah, well. ooh, almost posted spoiler in regards to s.3. i'll just leave it to i'm really looking forward to watching this one. ;)
and i'm wondering if i should do dueling Hana Kimi -- the tw version and then the j version. never read the manga, so i'm going to imprint on whichever i see first. and honestly, the pictures i've seen from the jdrama version? ::thunk::
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Date: 2007-07-06 05:05 pm (UTC)Re: hana kimi. I don't know. I love them both but they are diff. I prefer the Taiwanese one so far because it's more cracky.
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Date: 2007-07-06 01:20 am (UTC)Meteor Garden is ten levels awesomer than Hana Yori Dango(but I still have lots of love for it!!) and yeh, ISWAK is one of my favourite tdramas but I can't stand Itazaru Na Kiss.
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Date: 2007-07-06 05:04 pm (UTC)That's how I feel too.
I adore kdramas, but prefer the ones with happy endings. I am a wimp, largely.
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Date: 2007-07-07 03:05 pm (UTC)...yeh, I am a sucker for happy endings but I only really love them when the OTP had to get through a lot of hardships and it is realistic and stuff..
I remember watching Parineeta and half way through I didn't want to finish it because a)I had fallen for the OTP and didn't want to see them separated and b) I had guessed from the beginning that they would not get together...my was I surprised at the end!It tricked me! Into thinking they wouldn't get together...I was sooo happy...and crying...because eventhough it seemed impossible...it wasn't:P:P That's why I absolutely love anything that surprises me and makes the impossible OTP work(like Mars, HYD, Meteor Garden and heaps of bollywood movies...:P:P)
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Date: 2007-07-09 08:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-07-06 01:21 am (UTC)I think this is the best description I've ever read about Ten's reaction to Harriet Jones. In fact, it kind of explains a *lot*!
I love Ten in all his bouncy glory although his 'lonely god' schtick does get old. I'd much prefer 'Oncoming Storm' than lonely god. But Ten is so fun and manic and the mouth on him! He can certainly talk you to death, that Doctor! Although, I have to admit, Nine would always be my Doctor simply because he hits all of my buttons: intense, broody, acerbic, wide manic grin and ISSUES plus... leather jacket!
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Date: 2007-07-06 04:59 pm (UTC)Oh gosh, I loved loved LOVED Nine. But I am getting to really love Ten too. I guess I am just fickle :)
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Date: 2007-07-06 08:21 am (UTC)Just prepare yourself ok? Season 2 will make you so so happy and then it stomps on your heart and throws it into a bucket of boiling tears.
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Date: 2007-07-06 04:52 pm (UTC)Can't wait!
So far I am hard pressed to pick whether I like Nine or Ten better.
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Date: 2007-07-07 04:57 am (UTC)You just wait. We'll have things to discuss once you really get into the season.
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Date: 2007-07-09 07:54 pm (UTC)