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I just went reading wikipedia for some Fruits Basket spoilers and read one about the connection between Kyo and Kyoko, Tohru's Mom.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

*meep*

(No, they are not related even though this is a manga :D)

I have no idea what volume that appears in as I am on vol. 2 so anything after that is a spoiler.

This is the best manga since...AnC :D

P.S. You know who I am in love with now? Hatori. GUUUUH. Talk about angst. The fact that he looks a bit like Aoshi (see icon), my favorite secondary Rurouni Kenshin character (and my favorite after Kenshin himself) doesn't hurt.

Also? Akito. Must. Die.

Painfully.

Not just for what he did to Hatori. But OMG, I was reading wikiquote and came across this sentence he said to Kyo (behind cut as no idea which volume it is in, but I don't think it's spoilery. Just nasty):



"Remember that you are a monster. And it's because you are a monster that your mother died."

*jaw drops open. jaw stays open*

THE HELL????

Who says stuff like that?

I have never wanted to smash the head of even Shin's father this badly.

Date: 2007-02-27 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladysaotome.livejournal.com
Be careful! There are some massive spoilers out there way bigger than Kyo & Tohru's mom. I've read the scans so we're up in the 20+ volume by now. I don't know how much you care about spoilers though (you seem to have a bit of a fetish for spoilers!). The things I could tell you..... ;) As for Akito - just you wait & see. As awful as he is, think of what it must take to fill a person with so much hate. My favorite character is Shigure - he's such a fruitcake! He always makes me laugh.

Date: 2007-02-27 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I don't mind spoilers too much. Actually, I love them. I don't want to read the actual script or anything but usually I am all about spoilering myself (there have been a few cases where it's not like that, but this isn't it).

As awful as he is, think of what it must take to fill a person with so much hate.

Helium? :D

Seriously speaking though, even if he was raped as a child by a gang of aliens, I'd still not feel sorry for him. It's like the discussion of Nakago I had below with meganbmoore. No matter the awfulness, once you hurt other people badly, you have no excuse. The only manga/anime 'bad guy' I ever liked is Kougaiji in Saiyuki, but he is not portrayed as a bad person, just working for the 'side of evil' though he personally does nothing bad.

I love Shigure. So off-kilter awesome.

Date: 2007-02-27 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
the aliens comment almost made me snort dr pepper all over the work puter and paperwork.

imo, akito is the most unabashedly hatefilled anime/manga character out there...even knowing his story, i can't feel any sympathy. Granted, i don't feel sympathy for Nakago, either, but at least with him I can see WHY he wentthat path, it was how he survived(and he makes me think of an evil shuri...a bit...just a bit...he crosses lines shuri would kill for crossing)

With akito, it's more like he chooses to hate just to be spiteful. it's not revenge or anything like that, it's just spiteful hatred.

Date: 2007-02-28 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
OMG. Shuri is like a non-evil Nakago? Or (from what I read) a more messed up version of Limdo from Genbu Kaiden? And he's been branded? I MUST READ THIS NOW

Date: 2007-02-28 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
similarities. Though, now that I'm not doing paperwork and have thought about it, Ageha might be a better Nakago comparison. But a combo of messed up Limdo and not-evil Nakago might be more accurate. He's hard and ruthless, but when he's allowed to just be the guy he could have been without his screwed up life(read, with Sarasa and Shidou and to a limited extent Yuna and Nakijin) he's a friendly, open prankster with a serious flirtatious side(which is funny, cuz after he meets Sarasa, he can't help still flirting all the time, but then he only does it with the ones who are more likely to kick him in the face than take him up on it...like Yuna) and a lot of protectiveness.

Date: 2007-02-28 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
You realize you aremaking me more and more eager to check out Bssara? I am this close to ordering it tonight.

Date: 2007-02-28 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
*points @ newest LJ entry*


I highly approve of ordering ittonight. Or watching a couple eps on youtube(or finding them to DL)

Whichever is more likely for you to do.

Date: 2007-02-28 04:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
LOL. Evil temptress. I am off to bed in about twenty minutes, so neither, but definitely one of these two soon.

Date: 2007-02-28 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Just think of your quest to convince the world that the Mars dorama is about the most amazing thing ever.

Date: 2007-02-27 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
i do not know this connection yet...tell me...

and that's mild compared to the other things Akito does, to kyo or anyone else.

Date: 2007-02-28 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
and that's mild compared to the other things Akito does, to kyo or anyone else.

Ugh. Are you kidding?

Are you sure you want spoilers?

OK,

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On the day of Kyoko's accident, Kyo (whom she had met years ago) was standing nearby and spotted the car. He was about to pull her away, but that would involve embracing her, which would turn him into a cat in front of many people. So he did nothing, and Kyoko was hit. Seeing her lying on the ground covered in blood, Kyo swears he hears her say "I won't forgive you." He then ran to Kazuma Sohma and trained in the mountains.

As of chapter 135 we now know Kyoko truly said this but not with the intention Kyo thought she had. Before she died Kyoko's thoughts were that of Tohru and seeing Kyo she wanted to say "If you don't protect the child [Tohru] I won't forgive you." but in her weak state wasn't able to say it all.

I mean.

I MEAN.

MEEP.

Date: 2007-02-28 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
aww. yeah, I think there's been something hinted at, but I try not to look for too much subtext in FB. I think it's still a volume or two off. Just something else to look forward to.

Hmm...that must have been the last training stint...would explain a lot.

Date: 2007-02-28 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
OMG. OMG. OMG.

I swear I got the shivers reading that spoiler. Man. Now I get why Kyo and Tohru are so meant to be together :D Whoa....

Date: 2007-02-28 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I know. Me too.

OMG! ICON!!!

Date: 2007-02-28 05:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
It's the Alfred bears from Goong, as you can probably tell :D So cute. I want one of those ^^

Date: 2007-02-28 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
And they have a family! *dies*

Date: 2007-02-28 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Aye. And it also helps explain why he seems to have come back from the latest training stint a lot more intense, don't you think?

Date: 2007-02-28 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Hmmm. Definitely.

Date: 2007-02-28 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
Yup, I agree. I was wondering why Kyo was so tense about his training in the mountain.

Date: 2007-02-28 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Well, there's another reason for something that happened around that time frame w/ Akito...which is part of my Akito hate.

Date: 2007-03-01 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
OK. Now you have to tell me what happened. I'm a sucker for spoilers.

Date: 2007-03-01 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
basically, the cat has to live his entire life in seclusion, but Akito told Kyo that if he could beat Yuki(an impossibility because of the curse) by graduation, he wouldn't have to. but the curse makes it literally impossible(course, if Yuki knew, he'd throw the fight, but then Akito would say it didn't count) it's also a large part of why Kyo is constantly attacking Yuki at first.

Date: 2007-03-01 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
Akito. Hate. Hate. Hate. Grrrrrrrrrr...

Date: 2007-03-01 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
indeed.

I'm considering an "Akito must die" tag for the next reread

Date: 2007-02-28 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] life-on-queen.livejournal.com
Okay, I seriously don't understand this At. All. but... is this a manga or a video? Because if it is a manga, you would probably be the right person to ask about Cantarella, which I understand is a manga about Cesare Borgia, and whether or not (given what you've seen of my LJ) it's likely to make me crazy. Because I think it looks kind of interesting (annoyingly fey and androgynous art aside).

Date: 2007-02-28 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
It's a manga. (It was also turned into an anime for volumes 1-7). I've heard about Cantarella. I haven't read it myself but [livejournal.com profile] aliterati loves it, so I will ask her about it. All I know of it right now is that says it's very slashy :D

Date: 2007-02-28 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] life-on-queen.livejournal.com
All I know of it right now is that says it's very slashy :D

O_o

Hmmm.

Thanks for checking this out for me.... it looks interesting. It also looks like it might make the top of my head pop off. Heh.

Date: 2007-02-28 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
EEEEEEEEEEE!!!! NEXTWAVE FAN!!!!

*hem*

Cantarella looks good, and I think a lot of yaoi fans like it, but I haven'r read it myself. If you want, though, I'm going to waldenbooks and hastings tomorrow, and can take a closer look at it at one of those.

Date: 2007-02-28 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] life-on-queen.livejournal.com
Nextwave is love.

Yaoi?

Don't go to any trouble but if you happen to take a peek, I'd love to know what you think. Thanks.

Date: 2007-02-28 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
The second Nextwave trade needs to be out. Ooo...Hawkgirl...is that from Rags's run on the book?

Yaoi is guy/guy stuff in manga and anime...sometimes explicit, sometimes canon, often though(in stuff actually out in the US) it's 2 straight guys they think should be gay. In the case of cantarella, my gut says "canon, possibly explicit"

I'll look if i think about it.

Date: 2007-02-28 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] life-on-queen.livejournal.com
Ed Benes, I believe, cropped from Justice League vol. I-have-no-idea.

On the one hand, historical manga. On the other hand, guy/guy is not one of my kinks. Decisions, decisions, decisions.

Date: 2007-02-28 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Aye. Main reason I haven't looked that closely.

It IS hard to keep track of Benes, isn't it? He just jumps around DC like a little jumping bean.

Date: 2007-03-01 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Flipped through a couple volumes(2 and 4? What was in stock) Looked very pretty, kinda dark, and didn't notice any guy/guy stuff. I'll likely check it out eventually.

Date: 2007-03-01 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] life-on-queen.livejournal.com
Cool, thanks. I picked up... um, Path of the Assasssin today - another manga by the team behind Lone Wolf and Cub - which ought to keep me going for a while.

Date: 2007-02-28 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonyka.livejournal.com
I love Fruits Basket too. But I think you should read all the manga before making a judgment about Akito. I also used to hate her before but after something -if I told you I'll spoil you- you start to understand her and even love her. I tought it was impossible but yeah... She's just as complicated as the other characters of this manga and that's the thing that makes me love it.

Date: 2007-02-28 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I know basically all the spoilers there are about to know about Akito. Maybe it will come across different when I read it in the manga, but for now, nope, still no excuse. But we'll see.

Date: 2007-02-28 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
myeh. I've read it all *up to 15* and the hatred only grew.

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