Lilly, Lilly not-so-pure
Oct. 19th, 2005 11:43 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
dangermousieI was rewatching Lord of the Bling yesterday and you know what really stood out for me (and something I didn't even realize on my initial viewing): the fact that Lilly & Co. are going to San Diego for fleet week with the purpose of having hordes of drunken sailors drool over them (and in Lilly's case, probably more than drool). They are all excited about it (well, I imagine Veronica is excited because Lilly is). Leaving aside the insignificant fact that Lilly and Veronica have steady boyfriends, so trolling for men is a bit...not done, the whole "flaunting jailbait in front of really horny men" is just so classy. Not.
And that brings me to a lengthier comment about Logan/Lilly, and since I know that at least![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
femmenerd is still working through VM S1 and this contains thorough spoilers for the whole of first season, the thoughts are behind the cut.
Another thing that really caught my attention this time around is Lilly telling Veronica and Yolanda that she is tired of Logan because of his crazy jealousy every time a guy undresses her with her eyes (and props to RT for sneaking in more "clues" to make Veronica think Logan was capable of killing Lilly in a jealous rage). When I saw the ep for the first time, I didn't particularly pay attention to this. But after having seen all of the season, this really stood out to me. Because Logan? Doesn't really strike me as Othello. I mean, he suspected Caitlin was cheating on him so he idly checked out her phone (and with radar no doubt honed by years with Lilly, he was right on the money with his spidey sense). But that's not extreme jealousy. And he was never ever jealous with Veronica, and if any girl would drive a jealous guy crazy, it would be V: she kept bailing on him with no explanation! He didn't even suspect anything when she gave him excuses that a 5 year old wouldn't buy in LITB but instead was incredibly supportive.
So, what was Lilly talking about? Well, I am sure she was partly exaggerating, as girls often do, to show off to other girls how much her guy is crazy for her, but there was more to it though. Lilly strikes me as a girl who loved being the center of attention (I bet one of the main reasons Veronica appealed to her was because V thought Lilly treaded on water). If Logan ever paid any less attention to her than she thought was her due, she'd use plenty of means (and flaunting someone else's admiration is the quickest) to get his attention on track.
And it's one thing to behave in a way to make a naturally jealous person jealous. But to make someone who appears perfectly normal in that regard crazy jealous? That's entirely a different behavior alltogether. And by season finale, it's pretty clear there was a lot more than undressing with eyes going on. Lilly is a girl who definitely enjoyed a power trip and would probably really have fun driving her boyfriend crazy, pushing all his insecurities buttons and flaunting other guys in his face. Not Weevil because of status or Aaron because of taboo, but I am sure there were plenty of other candidates willing and able to be flaunted to play "hey Logan, I might be seeing this guy too" card.
Do I sound like I really dislike Lilly? I admit I really do. She strikes me as solipcistic, though not to the extremes Aaron was. Other people matter only in a way they relate to her, and provide her amusement or whatnot. Because no person who can empathize with other people's feelings and/or understand them on more than an abstract level would do the whole "sleep with Aaron" thing to Logan, or to any person, really, unless you loathed them, and even then...no. (And forget her treatment of Weevil). Because cheating is wrong, but it happens. But to be capable of the kind of cheating Lilly was doing? It's a whole other level of sick.
It's a good thing Logan/Lilly relationship came to an end (though bad it ended in murder of course). Because, I don't think the break-up note would have been the end. Lilly is not the type of girl to have the guy break up with her. She dump him? Yes. But not the other way around. She has to initiate it. And if Logan started showing interest in "moving on" or liking some other girl? Lilly is VERY proprietary. She might not care for him, but claws would come out, and guess what would happen...
They would be in a severely dysfunctional relationship until Lilly wanted to call it quits. Could be years. Ugh.
And that brings me to a lengthier comment about Logan/Lilly, and since I know that at least
femmenerd is still working through VM S1 and this contains thorough spoilers for the whole of first season, the thoughts are behind the cut.Another thing that really caught my attention this time around is Lilly telling Veronica and Yolanda that she is tired of Logan because of his crazy jealousy every time a guy undresses her with her eyes (and props to RT for sneaking in more "clues" to make Veronica think Logan was capable of killing Lilly in a jealous rage). When I saw the ep for the first time, I didn't particularly pay attention to this. But after having seen all of the season, this really stood out to me. Because Logan? Doesn't really strike me as Othello. I mean, he suspected Caitlin was cheating on him so he idly checked out her phone (and with radar no doubt honed by years with Lilly, he was right on the money with his spidey sense). But that's not extreme jealousy. And he was never ever jealous with Veronica, and if any girl would drive a jealous guy crazy, it would be V: she kept bailing on him with no explanation! He didn't even suspect anything when she gave him excuses that a 5 year old wouldn't buy in LITB but instead was incredibly supportive.
So, what was Lilly talking about? Well, I am sure she was partly exaggerating, as girls often do, to show off to other girls how much her guy is crazy for her, but there was more to it though. Lilly strikes me as a girl who loved being the center of attention (I bet one of the main reasons Veronica appealed to her was because V thought Lilly treaded on water). If Logan ever paid any less attention to her than she thought was her due, she'd use plenty of means (and flaunting someone else's admiration is the quickest) to get his attention on track.
And it's one thing to behave in a way to make a naturally jealous person jealous. But to make someone who appears perfectly normal in that regard crazy jealous? That's entirely a different behavior alltogether. And by season finale, it's pretty clear there was a lot more than undressing with eyes going on. Lilly is a girl who definitely enjoyed a power trip and would probably really have fun driving her boyfriend crazy, pushing all his insecurities buttons and flaunting other guys in his face. Not Weevil because of status or Aaron because of taboo, but I am sure there were plenty of other candidates willing and able to be flaunted to play "hey Logan, I might be seeing this guy too" card.
Do I sound like I really dislike Lilly? I admit I really do. She strikes me as solipcistic, though not to the extremes Aaron was. Other people matter only in a way they relate to her, and provide her amusement or whatnot. Because no person who can empathize with other people's feelings and/or understand them on more than an abstract level would do the whole "sleep with Aaron" thing to Logan, or to any person, really, unless you loathed them, and even then...no. (And forget her treatment of Weevil). Because cheating is wrong, but it happens. But to be capable of the kind of cheating Lilly was doing? It's a whole other level of sick.
It's a good thing Logan/Lilly relationship came to an end (though bad it ended in murder of course). Because, I don't think the break-up note would have been the end. Lilly is not the type of girl to have the guy break up with her. She dump him? Yes. But not the other way around. She has to initiate it. And if Logan started showing interest in "moving on" or liking some other girl? Lilly is VERY proprietary. She might not care for him, but claws would come out, and guess what would happen...
They would be in a severely dysfunctional relationship until Lilly wanted to call it quits. Could be years. Ugh.
