Eeeeee!

[dangermousie]

Silence ep 3 is now subbed. OMG. And the subbers on d-addicts said that they are going to try to release an ep a week! OMG! *hyperventilate*

If this isn't an inducement to try figure out all the techy stuff again this coming weekend, I don't know what is. I think I am going to start with printing D-addicts megafaq and outline and tag it REALLY carefully. It will make for good metro reading.

In not really related news, the following comment left on some ep of Tokyo Juliet is my favorite new show-related comment:

can't wait until Liang's Dad feels the stabbing anal pentration of Karma, cuz that bitch going to JAIL! X[

Heh. ROFL. But without Chu Xing, where would we be? How would the OTP develop enough angst to fuel a small country? The whole 'right after I see my son that I completely neglected be happy with this girl, I am going to do my best to wreck it' attitude is sooooooo deliciously eeeeeevil. What is it with doramas and evil or cold fathers, especially as it pertains to hunky heroes? We have Chu Xing from TJ who should pal around with Aaron Echolls on the sociopath scale, who is the father of hunky and yummy Liang. We have Qi-Luo dreadful rapist stepfather in Mars (not to mention estranged for long Ling's Dad). In Meteor Garden (or Hana Yori Dango, the Japanese version of the story), no fathers, but Dao Ming Si's mother who is distant and evil and has mark of the devil is a good substitute in torturing her son. In Gokusen, Shin's father is distant and appearance-concerned to the exclusion of family feeling. In Silence, Wei Yi's Dad is Dao Ming Si's Mom mark 2. In Goong, Shin's mom is kinda a bitch. I am sensing a trend. In Peach Girl dorama, they never got to the part of the story where we'd deal with it, but the only parental figure we get there is Kairi's elder brother who is a borderline sociopath and had previously almost driven his younger brother to suicide. Yeah. Trend.

Oh, and hie ye over to latteaddict for really shiny glossy close-ups of the Battlestar Galactica cast from the S3 promo pics: http://latteaddict.livejournal.com/56145.html

Comments

[ameyadevi.livejournal.com]

Ah!! thanks for the heads up!!
*runs over to watch*

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Silence is not on youtube yet (it's encoding). But it's linked on d-addicts to download (I am a luddite so not sure how it's done but if you know how, it's there).

[ameyadevi.livejournal.com]

Ohh. I live on bwtorrents.com (for, bollywood! gasp! hehehe) so i know torrents but for some reason d-addicts confuses my brain.. plus i can't find a client that works on mac and the other 2 comps are connected. :( O vell!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I am pretty sure it will be on youtube tomorrowish.

have I mentioned how much Saif in your icon makes me grin?

[ameyadevi.livejournal.com]

Yay!
& no, but me too XD.

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

Evil day and pretty Liang are what are keeping me watching TJ because I am finding the heroine a bit drippy. About 25% of the the script must be 'and then Sui cries.' Admittedly she cries very prettily but it is getting a bit much. Especially as she hasn't really had *that* much angst yet. Not compared to Mars or MG anyway!

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

And that should be 'evil dad.' I find him delicious and nasty and everything an evil parent should be.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Of course, it seems TJ is on the nurture side of nurture v nature debate, otherwise Liang will start twirling that mustahce any time now.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I like her well enough when she is playful or fun (the scene in the cafe with Liang and her making him kiss through glass was adorable) but when she is weeping, not so much. But then she is a bit on the high maintenance side. of course, we wouldn't have the drama otherwise. Shan Cai could fix the evil dad is about two minutes flat. But whenever I think of TJ flaws, I just remember Liang+handcuffs and everything is good again. How far are you in, btw?

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

I just finished 4. I, um, ff a bit through some of Sui's scenes without Liang because they're a lot of the same. I wish I felt she had a plan for becoming famous other than just saying she was going to become famous about 5 times an episode.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I felt she had a plan for becoming famous other than just saying she was going to become famous about 5 times an episode.

Heeeee. Apparently she is a very very good designer (I think it comes out in 5). Five gets a lot more emo :P

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

I liked her a lot more in 5 than I had before because a) evil dad really did mess with her, b) she didn't fold like a house of cards and c) angst! (and handcuffs). But the one design we saw of hers actually made is a bit terrifying, though everyone was all OMG! So amazing!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I rather want the 'Italian' guy to fall off the face of the earth because...OMG. Annoying. In a hilarious way. Not at all as delicious as Chu Xing. I mean his grand plan is to trap a girl who already has a bf she is attached to in a room with him until she falls for him instead out of what...sheer boredom? After she's been drugged? I've heard better plans from five year olds. He's not even evil, just annoying. And he also seemed to be interested in Liang, too, heeee. The reign of the sexually ambiguous male designers continues in this show.

I have to admit I was shocked we got to the sex as soon as ep 5 (eeeee!) because usually it takes forever. Bonus points on having them all laughing and stuff as opposed to candlelit emo stuff. I must admit I was cracking up when the next morning Sui was walking to class and wondering if everyone was looking at her because they could tell :P And Liang was all mellowed out. Heh.

Also, the more time passes, the more I love Evil Dad. When he was all 'hey, my underling was all about catching and dragging her away. But she is totally unstable because she jumped. You really shouldn't date her' I was all in admiration of his sheer evil brass. Deliciousssssssss (with all the extra sssssss).

I do wonder how they plan to defeat him as they don't seem to do anything underhanded nor are (to be less than kind) terribly bright.

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

The Italian guy is an idiot. But so are they. Suddenly he's all forgiven for locking her in a room for days? It would take more than that to get me to be near someone who had done that for me.

They are not very bright either, though, as you said. Liang's only card is the dad wants me back one and at least he's played it. Her's is just to whimper and angst. Which does seem to work, mind you.

Evil dad is by far my favourite character as he is so wonderfully over the top. And I give Liang a pass because he is very easy to watch and doesn't whine about his woes.

The sex scene was cute though - and I was surprised too. And they're moving in also? It's like Sodom and Gomorrah!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Suddenly he's all forgiven for locking her in a room for days? It would take more than that to get me to be near someone who had done that for me.


Stay away from the 'Hot Gimmick' manga then. The heroine of that one almost gets gang raped as a revenge plan by the guy she thought was her boyfriend. The only reason she isn't is because her OTP happens to have come with her and inflicts some bodily harm. Guess who makes friends with the rapist mastermind later? Yup. Our heroine. And the OTP is percieved as grumpy and generally bad tempered (to be fair he usually is) for objecting.

I was discussing this trope with someone. In manga, anime, and doramas based on those we see 'good' characters forgive and redeem bad ones over and over again. And it works. Usually the bad person is saved under the influence of the good one: the guy in HG e.g. becomes if not super nice, at least caring towards the heroine. The characters keep doing it until I want to scream: in Fushigi Yuugi, one of the most famous shoujo manga titles (and a really well known anime), Miaka the heroine keeps wanting to save her former best friend Yui even after Yui's gone evil and done many many awful things, long after I'd be wanting to murder her. And she succeeds in redeeming her in the end.

In Peach Girl (anime and manga, I don't think dorama got that far), Momo forgives Sae after Sui behaved appallingly and almost ruined her life. And after she takes Sui back, Sui reciprocates by doing it again, worse this time. In PG I must admit I adore Kairi (Momo's eventual OTP) precisely because he has 'she has it coming' attitude towards Sae. And even care of a bad character towards another can redeem him/her. Sae ends up falling madly for Kairi's sociopath elder brother and her unstinting (I'd say insane) devotion, actually humanizes him somewhat.

I was discussing this phenomenon with someone and they mentioned it's very culturally specific: the emphasis is very strong on harmony and working out one's differences and smoothing everything.

And they're moving in also? It's like Sodom and Gomorrah!

I know! What next!

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

Interesting to read about that; to some extent I think it is good that there's always a chance held out for people to become better in these shows, but then you get some things that I think, um, I think it might be good to avoid this person after that.

I guess that Mars is then the exception to all of this, where giving Tong Dao chance after chance turns out to be a mistake....

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I guess that Mars is then the exception to all of this, where giving Tong Dao chance after chance turns out to be a mistake....

And ditto on Qi-Luo's horrific stepfather. I do like that fact. Sometimes you really just didn't look deep enough (e.g. with Ling's father) and sometimes the person is just not capable of being saved. Mars is still a lot more forgiving than I would be (I find that QL's mom closed her eyes to abuse because she wanted a peaceful life realistic, and she does lose her daughter forever, by the end, but still, both QL and Ling were entirely too nice to her. I would have screamed in her face), but it's a lot more in tune with my views.

Interestingly, Meteor Garden (and HYD which it's based on) is sort of the inverse of 'forgive everyone,' largely. It takes DMS tons and tons of hard work and yummy angst to get into SC's good graces because he was such a bastard earlier. And his mother is never really redeemed (but then she is never really loved). The closest it ever came to 'forgive bad guy and he gets nicer' was with DMS's fake cousin and he never got particularly nicer, either. But then HYD was considered extremely unusual when it first came out because it had such a strong willed, take no prisoners heroine.