Supernatural, VM, and a bit of dancing coolness

[dangermousie]

Saw "Dead in the Water." Oh. Dean broke my heart in this ep. You really begin to find out how FUBAR he is. When he talks to that kid about watching his Mom die and how he thinks every day about her wanting him to be brave and his voice breaks. OMG. I am a sap but I am kind of crying.

He is just so vulnerable there. And I love Sam beginning to realize all that. And then of course Dean's shields go right back up. But it's fascinating to me that so much of Dean seems to be built right on that horrible damage of watching your mother burn and of growing up in this crazy warrior family and having to take care of Sam. And I get the feeling he tries not to think about all this too much because otherwise he won't be able to function. And he so sees himself in that little boy and it so brings everything back.

Also, "Must be hard, with your sense of direction. Never being able to find your way to a decent pick-up line" is a great put down line I need to remember for the future.

I also rewatched Ruskie Business and I do have in-depth thoughts about it, but the scene that stuck with me is when Logan crumples in V's arms. I want to look away, because it just looks as if he is folding in on himself and cannot hold his grief any longer. And what a horrible thing that he can't find any comfort with his sister but just more pain and barbs and horribleness (mutual). Whoa.

And, in unrelated news, I guess after watching Krrish, I have a minor case of Hrithikmania. For those who don't know but are interested, when Hrithik Roshan debuted in 2000 in the (IMO) utterly forgettable Kaho Na Pyar Hai (which nontheless made a gazillion), people in India went nuts. He was making women swoon in the aisles, Valentino style.

But for me, the reason for liking him is simple. It's this. This is a dance number from Lakshya. The movie itself is a mess, IMO. But I've never seen anyone move like this and I can watch him dance forever. For anyone wondering about the odd choreography and context, Hrithik plays a slacker imagining not wanting to do anything in life and that is what the number is about. Actually, I don't even like watching him dance with heroines, because they never can keep up and I just want them to get out of the frame so I can concentrate on him.

Plus, there is the fact that he looks

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[crumpeteer.livejournal.com]

I love it that it's very apparent that Dean is a person barely holding things together. And for someone as brassy and stubborn as he is, he's extremely insecure where it counts. There's a line in "Skin" (another great Deancentric ep where you realize just how emotionally in pain he is)where the comment is made that everyone walks out on him. His mother left him (unintentionally of course), his brother walked out on him, and then his father chooses to go missing without telling him. Those are the only people Dean ever really deeply invests his emotions in and every one of them leaves him. If Sam is scared of hurting people, Dean is scared of people leaving him. This is a fear that the Demon starts to prey on with Dean.

Jensen is also one of the few actors who really works well with kids. Dean obviously connects better with kids than he does adults. I think part of it is because he never really got a chance to grow up. Part of him is still stuck back at when he was four years old; when his world pretty much tore itself apart. Sam doesn't have any memory of that and his insistance that Dean can't really remember that much of it rings a little hollow since it was such a traumatic event for Dean I can imagine him really not being right afterwards. John writes in his diaries that Dean didn't talk for a long time after Mary died and that he wouldn't let Sam out of his sight.

Dean is one screwed up puppy yet there's such a deeply ingrained sense of good in him. I think this is the main reason so many Dean fans are hard on Sam since Sam really doesn't get where his brother is coming from for the greater part of the season. It makes Sam seem spoiled and bratty when really it's more that he doesn't understand the amount of pressure Dean has put on him and also takes upon himself.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Dean is one screwed up puppy yet there's such a deeply ingrained sense of good in him.

The thing I got out of DitW is how much Dean wants to save everyone. How it eats at him that he can't. I wonder if it's because he couldn't save his Mom and saving others helps mitigate that sort of thing and make him feel less guilty (a bit Hakkai-like, there).

Dean fans are hard on Sam since Sam really doesn't get where his brother is coming from for the greater part of the season

But then Sam doesn't know Dean all that well. They haven't seen each other for a long time, and Dean seems to be a type to build very strong walls. And I don't blame Sam for wanting some normalcy.

for someone as brassy and stubborn as he is, he's extremely insecure where it counts.

And you notice that. He is pretty lonely and he doesn't want to get used to having people (aka Sam) around because then it will be worse when they leave but he can't help but get used to them. You could see even in the Pilot how lonely he was and how much he wanted Sam to come with him.

Sam doesn't have any memory of that and his insistance that Dean can't really remember that much of it rings a little hollow since it was such a traumatic event for Dean I can imagine him really not being right afterwards.

I remember things from when I was four and none of them were, thankfully, anywhere near that traumatic. I think loss of his mother, coupled with how crazy their life became immediately afterward really would screw up Dean for life.

And I do think he lets his guard down with children a lot more than with adults. They are less complicated and don't demand as much. But also because he sees himself in them, to a degree, I think.

[crumpeteer.livejournal.com]

In "Devil's Trap" Dean tells Sam that he always wanted to be a firefighter when he grew up. Saving people is just part of who Dean is. He doesn't care about himself so much as he does about protecting people (which is why what happens in "Faith" is so hard on him).

He is pretty lonely and he doesn't want to get used to having people (aka Sam) around

And Dean makes a rather detached comment to Sam in "Skin" when they're visiting some of Sam's old friends about how you can't really have the luxury of friends to which Sam says "you're really kind of anti-social, do you know that". It's not so much that Dean's anti-social as he knows that no matter what, he's always going to have to move on. It gives him a detached quality. It's why he only has one night stands and why he's a compulsive liar. He's got to be detached or the stress of the job would kill him.

Dean seems to be a type to build very strong walls.

It's hard to accuse Sam of being callous since Dean really does put such a strong front on. It isn't until the end of the season that Sam really starts to pick up with what's going on with Dean. Not really his fault as he has his own problems, namely that women around him keep dying.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

He's got to be detached or the stress of the job would kill him.


Yeah. If he had a wonderful life and was all involved, he'd not be able to risk himself. And I guess it's like Buffy. Once you are in, you can't be out because you know what goes bump in the night.

[kabutar.livejournal.com]

But I've never seen anyone move like this

*cough* SHAHID! *cough*

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Heee. I've never seen Shahid in anything. I know, I know :)

[thelana.livejournal.com]

Ishq Vishk is very watchable. And Amrita Rao is very cute in it.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

OK, I'll check it out then...

[thelana.livejournal.com]

It might help you that I didn't like it completely and thought that the characters were immature dingbats at time and and and... Which is, if you think about it, good precedent to you loving it when I'm meh on it :D

But yeah, Amrita is cute as a button, songs a nice, pretty and young actors (again, no 40 year olds playing college students), it just has a very sweet fresh vibe to it. And Amrita and Shahid make a cute couple.

And I don't know whether I mentioned it in my journal, I also liked 36 China Town more than I expected. (Ishq Vishk is better though). 36 isn't great, but again surprisingly non boring.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

But then you thought Felicity people were dingbats and I agreed :)

[thelana.livejournal.com]

Naw, IV is cute. But they are some "God, they are such *teenagers*" moments in there. You know, how teenaged boys in particular can be dicks at times. But, I dunno, I liked it. Some things were brought up, like girls being expected to "put out" and such.

[fivil.livejournal.com]

36 China Town! But I know you'll check it eventually. I'm not in love with the guy but I do have to admit the guy's got moves. Check out this promo vid for 36 CT, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq8U_lo9Luk

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

He's good. And very cute. But I still think no one moves like Hrithik, Shahid included.

[da06cooliekishi.livejournal.com]

Ishq Viskh wasnt really that great, but it was a hit in India.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Cool! Thanks for letting me know!

[fivil.livejournal.com]

I think you might enjoy his recent performance at IIFA, where he performs that very same Lakshya song: http://youtube.com/watch?v=d7GHQXnhvDU

Hrithrik is the only person who could pull off that dance, you're right.

I'm not a fan but then again, I have yet to see Krrish and haven't really seen him in many films. I look forward to seeing Krrish, though am half-sad to hear it's actually good. ;D Was looking forward to Krrish the dumbfest!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the link!

Krrish is quite cheesy (any superhero movie is), so don't worry. But it's also quite fun.

[thelana.livejournal.com]

That... is a very insane song.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yup. But so freaking cool.

[rajni.livejournal.com]

I can't believe Krrish was actually decent! Hello. Well, I will still keep my expectations very, very low until I actually see it. hehe

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yup. I was totally shocked. It's very very very Bollywood (if you know what I mean) but waaaaaay too much fun.

[rossywar.livejournal.com]

Hrithik is such a Greek god type. :)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yup. Though every time I see Rakash Roshan, I keep wondering how on earth he managed to produce someone that gorgeous. But then his mother is very pretty so...But still. Huge mystery.

[klawick003.livejournal.com]

Gah, Logan broke my heart 1x15.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yes. It was so horrible that he had no one to turn to except Veronica who wasn't family or a current close friend.

[ameya.livejournal.com]

aww, i liked Lakshya! I forgot about that video.. thanks for the link :D. And that picture is HOT. Guh.
I wish i could have made it to Krrish! :(

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I tought Lakshya was good until he joined the army and then it because standard 'march march fight in sequences we can't see who is who' and lost my interest. I thought Hrithik was really good in it, though.

[smartylibrarian.livejournal.com]

I had no idea that Youtube had so many Bollywood movie songs up! Yay!!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

It has tons. It actually has some movies in their entirety(broken up into parts), including Krrish. Though with no subs.

[smartylibrarian.livejournal.com]

I need subtitles. My hindi vocabulary consists entirely of words I've picked up from the movies I've watched: dil, shaadi, and pyar.

[aliterati.livejournal.com]

Indulge the Hrithikmania. We need pic spam. ;p

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I already did one but yes, thre is definitely another one coming. Call me! I wanna babble about Krrish.

[aliterati.livejournal.com]

I've been searching your posts, but I couldn't find any extended pic spam. Do you remember the link, perchance?

I'm gonna see my friend off from Ny, but then, not to worry--posting and calling.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

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[cosmicviolet.livejournal.com]

I think it's interesting that despite Sam's asking Dean to "name three kids you even know", he's really good with kids. It comes up later on too, particularly in "Something Wicked". crumpeteer said it better than me, but Dean just seems to have this innate understanding and knows where they're coming from. He doesn't talk down to them or dismiss their feelings like so many adults do.

Also, that moment in RB is when I really fell for Logan. I still can't watch that scene without going 'awww.' And maybe I'm crazy, but I see some similarities between Dean and Logan. The whole snarky tough guy façade, maybe.