What we know about current Neptune Mysteries, so far

[dangermousie]

I've tried to come up with a list for what we know about the Bus Crash Mystery and the less important, but still out there, Who Killed Felix mystery. Spoilers up until the ep shown earlier this week (Blast from the Past). Let me know if I missed anything. I'll keep modifying it as we learn more stuff.



The Bus Crash

FACT: On a way back from field trip, a school bus, its driver, a journalism teacher, and a number of students went off the road into the sea. (2.1)

FACT: The bus driver did not crash the bus as a suicide. (2.2)

FACT: Right before the bus crashed, there was an explosion on the bus (2.5)

FACT: Logan was loitering around the bus before it went on its trip. He also told Veronica "I am going to miss you." Why? (whether just a dig because he is off boinking Kendelia or something more sinister please no) We don't know (2.1)

FACT: Dick complained of a funny smell at the back of the bus on the way there. Obnoxiousness or clue? You decide. (2.1)

FACT: Veronica, Duncan, Dick, Beaver and Gia were also supposed to be on that bus. However, all except Veronica went back with Dick and Beaver in the limo their Dad sent for them. (2.1)

FACT: Dick also asked Veronica and Meg Manning, Duncan's former girlfriend, both of whom declined. Dick did not try to persuade (2.1)

FACT: Veronica took too long talking to Weevil at a rest stop and Meg knew Veronica was being left behind and let it happen (whether as is the obvious reason, because she was pissed about "boyfriend theft" or some other reason, we don't know). (2.1)

FACT: Only one person survived, Meg Manning. She is in a coma (2.2)

FACT: Meg's parents blame Duncan and Veronica for Meg not being in the limo. Whether it's just grief, or something else, we don't know. (2.4)

FACT: Meg had some secrets that would cause her parent to "pull the plug" (at least according to her sister Lizzie) on her laptop. Duncan does not seem surprised by that. We don't know what these secrets are about. (2.4)

FACT: A man named Curly Moran, with a long police record, who was one of the mourners at the crash site, washed up beaten to death, with Veronica Mars' name written on his hand (2.2, 2.3)

FACT: Curly Moran knew Aaron Echolls, was the stunt coordinator on a movie with him that had a similar crash, and had a signed photo of Aaron and himself among his possessions. (2.3)

FACT: Aaron might have a good reason to want Veronica dead, as she landed him behind bars and might be an important witness against him. (1.22)

FACT: Last place Curly was seen was at a Biker Bar, where the cops found Weevil's earring (2.3)

FACT: One of the people killed in the crash was Servando, a member of the PCH biker gang, led by Weevil (2.2)

FACT: According to Weevil, Servando had some trouble with Fighting Fitzpatricks, an Irish mob group. (2.4)

FACT: Weevil got a call that said that Curly Moran was behind the bus crash, and that he was hired by Fighting Fitzpatricks, to get back at Servando. Weevil, at least, thinks it's unlikely FF are behind the bus crash. (2.4)

FACT: The phone call that Weevil got was from Aaron Echolls' house, which has no one living there now except for Logan and the staff (2.4)

FACT: It's not from a phone line that is used often (Echollses have five phone lines), as the phone just "rings and rings" whenever Weevil tried calling back, and it's not a number Veronica recognizes, and as Logan's ex, I'd imagine she'd know the main numbers. (2.4)

FACT: The date and time of the call are during Logan's "Life is Short" party which he threw on Aaron's birthday (heh) and which had half of Neptune present: 09ers, PCH + Weevil who crashed the party, Lamb+cops who came by to collect the kegs (and probably break up a fight or seven). (2.4)

Where does it leave us? Nowhere much, so far, except that I am sure Logan will get accused yet again. Though hopefully not by Veronica and hopefully not because he did do it. Also, I wonder if this is connected to Felix' murder (see below) and if Aaron really has anything to do with it. Oh yeah, and what kind of an explosion was it and what's on Meg's laptop.

Who Killed Felix

On the night of Aaron Echolls' arrest, Felix, Weevil's second in command, ended up dead because of stab wound(s) on the Coronado Bridge at some point during the bikers' confrontation with Logan. Who killed him, and more importantly, why and how is it connected to the bus crash? I am assuming, of course, that Logan is telling the truth and did not kill Felix. It seems a safe assumption. For one thing, Logan's pretty honest generally, for another, how would he get away with it, surrounded by a gang kicking the shit out of him and live? Even if we assume that it's Logan who is telling the flashback and thus is an unreliable narrator, we have medical records indicating broken ribs and a concussion, hardly the state (outside of Bollywood movies) in which to take on a gang in a knife-fight.

To the best of our knowledge, Weevil was unconscious during the fight and does believe Logan did it, and I do wonder about the motorist who called for help and then dissappeared. Shady.

Hhhhhhmmmmmmm.

Comments

Hi

[goddess09807.livejournal.com]

Nothing really to add. Just saying hi 'cause I disappeared for a while. Could you go over to my LJ and give some feedback on the poems I posted?

Re: Hi

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Will do so :)

[sg1padawan.livejournal.com]

Okay, I need a monitor NOW so I can watch all these eps! *wants*

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Heee. Have you seen S2 yet?

[sg1padawan.livejournal.com]

The first ep of S2, and that's it. I just haven't had a chance to watch any others (plus all the Lost & Alias eps as well).

[girlintheattic.livejournal.com]

Oh I love it when people do these breakdowns, it saves me from having to think for myself ;)

One thing you didn't mention - I reckon that even if Ed Doyle (sp?) didn't commit suicide there could be more to him than we currently think. Maybe the fact that he was having an affair and planning to leave his wife means something in the grand scheme of things.

I wouldn't pay much attention to me though it's 1 AM here...

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

The thing is, I don't think it related to the crash at all, except to prove that it wasn't suicide as the letter was a Dear Jane note and not a suicide one. But if they ever hint more, back on the list it goes! :)

[raisintorte.livejournal.com]

First -- this rules!!! You noticed lots of stuff I didn't.

Second -- A few things I also noticed:

Curly Moran also knew Jackie's Dad. (pic with two seen in the same ep as the aaron pic)
Jackie's Dad was fighting with Gia's Dad (2.1)
Gia was supposed to be on the bus. (2.1)
Jackie's dad is shady (most recent episode).

[ayn-rand-fan-13.livejournal.com]

Oh, wow. I completely missed all of that. Thanks!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I looked at the pic of Curly with the sports star on the tape, and wasn't sure if it was Terrence or not. People on TWOP weren't sure either, so I left it off the list of facts for now.

I left the rest of them off because I am not sure yet if they have anything to do with the bus thing (I tried to list only the really direct things). But hmmmm....*mind gets very busy*

[raisintorte.livejournal.com]

Yes, the rest don't make sense with out the first. We thought it was him because the car and the guy look the same but I get leaving it out.

BUT if it is true it does put in a nice other possible reason for the bus going over.

I *love* this show.

[ayn-rand-fan-13.livejournal.com]

Oooh, thanks! Since school fries my brain, I tend to miss out on really significant parts of the mysteries. I had no idea about the Irish mafia part of the story.
Oh, and off topic, I was waiting at the hair cutting place today and flipping through TV Guide. I found this thing on something like a day in the life of Teddy Dunn. He was saying in this sidebar that he does such-and-such because it calms him down and makesh him more mellow throughout the day. I immediatley go "No! Less mellow, more passionate, more chemistry. Less mellow. Less!". And then there was this really hot picture of Logan, and I kind of forgot about the Teddy Dunn thing.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

"No! Less mellow, more passionate, more chemistry. Less mellow. Less!".

ROFL. Really, the boy is, at best, laid back nice, and at worse wooden, as a character. Come on, no mellow for you!

there was this really hot picture of Logan, and I kind of forgot about the Teddy Dunn thing

ROFL. And that is why I love you. :P

[ayn-rand-fan-13.livejournal.com]

Aww, thanks.

[femmenerd.livejournal.com]

LOL you're so methodological.

And now I have to go back and rewatch the eps. But not now. I'm trying to narrow down where I'm going to apply to grad school. ::bites fingernails::

I too hope that Veronica doesn't accuse Logan AGAIN. Because really, she's batting zero with that tactic. He's never actually been guilty of anything she's accused him of doing and the only thing he has been guilty of he told her about willingly (dosing Duncan at the party).

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

If you don't mind me asking, what are you applying to grad schools for (i.e. what's the future PhD going to be in?)

too hope that Veronica doesn't accuse Logan AGAIN. Because really, she's batting zero with that tactic. He's never actually been guilty of anything she's accused him of doing

Exactly. And she is rarely rational about it:

1. Accuses him of stealing credit cards. Nope, it's Chardo (and why would he? Aaron is the worse father imaginable, but I doubt Logan ever needs to wory about his credit card limits or allowance.)
2. Accuses him of stealing steroids. Nope, it's Troy (once again, come on, Logan can afford to buy his own if he was so inclined. Plus, steroids? So not his style).
3. Accuses him of rigging the election. Nope, it's Madison (sneaky is so not his style).
4. Accuses him of writing "NARC" on Wanda's locket. Nope, it's pretty certainly the PCH, who have a Wanda grudge (and Logan has a heck of a lot of everything else to worry about at the time, anyway).
5. Sorta accuses him of stealing money from the poker game. Nope, it's Sean (why would Logan need to steal? Hello, rich!)
6. Accuses him of drugging her and raping her. Nope, the drugs was Dick, the rape was Duncan. (Once again, Logan has issues but he isn't scum).
7. Assumes he was going to make porny videos of them. Nope, the cameras are Aaron's (and come on, Logan just told off all 09ers for her. He is not going to play a prank and tape her to humiliate her or whatever).
8. Assumes Logan killed Lilly. Nope, Aaron (Come on, she had more evidence on Duncan etc but she didn't turn him in!).
9. Assmes Logan set fire to the pool. The jury is still out.
10. Arguably assumes Logan is the one who made the call to Weevil, or at least knows something about it. Nope, person unknown did.

Basically, Logan is Mr. Heart On His Sleeve. He is not sneaky at all. Anything bad he's ever did to her (or anyone else) he did to their face. In fact, he's quite remarkably honest: he tells her about drugging Duncan and the salt lick, neither of which he had to mention and either of which he knew could ruin the relationship forever (and seeing he just told off all his friends for her, it was clearly extremely important to him), because he wanted to be honest with her.

I really doubt Veronica would accuse Logan again, at least not without some overhwelming evidence, not after last season's finale. After all, she believed him unquestioningly when he said he didn't kill Felix, the pool thing was a really makes-sense assumption (and she didn't bring it up specifically in any event), and when she confronted Logan over the phone number, it's not because she thinks he is a murderer or anything but because she wants to know what's going on and the confrontational manner is because (IMO) she is still pissed about Kendall and because she is trying to stay angry at him so she won't miss him, to convince herself she made the right choice.

[antiqueskies.livejournal.com]

This relates to absolutely nothing you're posting about, but have you seen A History of Violence?

I need someone to help me understand just what the hell that was...

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I saw it a while back and it's in my tags under HOV...

I thought it ws quite good: an examination of how you can never escape a cycle of violence, because each of Tom's actions, though justified, brought in bigger and bigger and bigger guns...

[life-on-queen.livejournal.com]

My personal suspicion is that we may find out that the bus crash and who killed Felix are more closely related than we thought.

I believe Logan tells Veronica that he threw the knife over the railing. Without a murder weapon or a witness, the charges were dismissed. This means that if, say, someone were to turn in "the" murder weapon to the police and testify that he saw Logan try to ditch it, Logan could be re-charged with Felix's murder.

You know what else? Logan was supposed to be on the field trip but bailed for afternoon delight. What if Veronica wasn't the target but Logan was. What if someone wants him dead or out of the way and, having failed to get him with the trumped up murder charge, they sabotaged the bus?

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

The thought that Logan is the one who is the potential victim does make sense and is really interesting. Either that, or are people trying to kill the bikers off? I do wonder. Because the Aaron thing would just be old news.

Poor Logan, if true, though.

[fotada.livejournal.com]

Hey there, bluehyacinth rec'd this post at veronica_mars, and she's right, this is an excellent list! I love the fact that this show inspires breakdowns like this. I just wanted to nitpick one tiny little thing:

FACT: Servando had some trouble with Fighting Fitzpatricks, an Irish mob group. (2.4)

I am still not sure at this point that we can take what Weezil told Veronica as fact. He never told her that he and other PCH'ers were at the Life's Short party the same night that he got the phone call, and there is definitely something fishy about the way he layed out the whole Servando story for her. I'm not saying it isn't true, but at this point, there is nothing to confirm it as a "fact."

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

True.... Hmmmmm, I think I'll modify it byt adding "according to Weevil" to that point. Because the boy is not an impartial observer :)

[globalfruitbat.livejournal.com]

Wow! I totally have to friend you now, to follow this awesome synopsis!

[redrikki.livejournal.com]

Reading through the fact list I noticed that the bit with the rat that Keith found wasn't on it. That explains the smell that Dick complained about and may somehow be relevant.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I think I compiled this before the rat ep. But yes, that's definitely an important addition!