Collection of lovely Veronica Mars spoilers

[dangermousie]

This is a collection of spoilers I found so far, on the L/V board and the kryptonite one and TWoP. I am sure you've seen most of them if you are a spoiler slut but I want them in one place.

They are SEVERE, so do stay away...Unless you are spoiler crazy, like I am, i.e. if you are koalathebear :P But no, there are no revelations about who killed Felix or caused the bus crash, or even if Logan and Veronica will get it on. Not that severe.

Parentheses are my reactions...



-Keith will have a commanding lead in the polls for the sheriff post, but a last second controversy will cost him the election by a hair, 51% to 49%. Woody is the new county supervisor. (Could it be Alicia?)

-2 break-ups in ep 2.5 (please let it be Duncan and Veronica. But it's probably Keith and Alicia and Wallace and Jackie)

-Duncan and Logan reconcile in ep 2.5.

-2.5 centers around Veronica's investigation of a John Edwards type TV Medium who is trying to cash in on the Bus Crash.

-Veronica's attempt to discredit the medium, which ends with the tables being turned on Veronica in an unexpected way, indirectly leads her to a crucial piece of evidence about the bus- a voice mail message made by one of the victims which begins minutes before the bus goes over the cliff and ends when it hits the water.

-Terrance Cook and Charlie Hustle have something in common. And we aren't talking about their abilities on the field. Sheriff Lamb is privy to this dirty little secret. (Who is Charlie Hustle?)

-Lawyer Cliff and Clarence Wiedman are back in 2.6 (yay for continuity!)

-Gia has a little brother who is a total spaz. (And we care why?)

-Logan is gets arrested again very soon, as apparently an "eyewitness" who saw him stab Felix comes forward, which prompts some gloating by Weevil.

-Logan immediately makes bail which prompts some of the PCHers to question Weevil's cajones. In a perhaps related story, a random 09er comes up to Weevil and asks for the cocaine he owes him. Weevil knows nothing about it and it appears this kid has just confussed Weevil for another PCHer because they "all look alike". At least someone in Weevil's crew is apparently making moves without the boss's permisssion, and the rank and file seem to be getting restless with his leadership. Weevil announces that maybe it is time they "do something" about Logan.

-Something happens to Wallace that causes him to be AWOL for at least one episode. (I assume it's Dad related)

-Duncan is cuddling in bed with a blonde haired girl. As we move closer, we see that it is Meg. She tells Duncan, "I knew you would save me" and Duncan wakes up. He walks to his night-stand and picks up a white envelope. He contemplates it, opens it up, reads the card that is inside, and his face indicates he is shocked by what he has read.

-In the 8th episode of the season, Logan and Veronica will be driving alone on their way to meet a man Veronica has some questions for. (Weeee, they are working together and back on friendly snark terms. Now all I need is sex).

-As they both get ready to leave the car, Veronica will ask him to stay behind, telling him, "This takes a certain subtlety. If I need anyone punched in the face, I'll whistle for you."

-Veronica is trying to find out about a certain plastic surgeon this guy used once, and so she pretends to be a potential client looking for an honest evaluation of the guy's work. The situation soon takes a sinsister turn when he takes her to a nearby tavern and Logan comes to the rescue (Dangermousie swoons) as he apparently owns a gun (Dangermousie is nervous).

-Dick is cool with Logan's sex with the Stepmom (big surprise, here).

-Logan has been fitted with an ankle monitor. I assume because of the murder charges and the bail. (Which would make Keith even happier when L/V get back together, of course).

-Trina will be directing a school play (????) in Ep 9, and Veronica will be investigating a mysterious Prom Baby. Cordy is also in this ep.

-Abel Koontz and Aaron Echolls are back for Ep 6, as Veronica tries to find Abel's missing daughter. (Aaron, Aaron! Aaron!!!! Please, please TPTB, give us a Logan and Aaron scene).

-Duncan is leaving after 12th ep. (Woo-hoo!)

Comments

[winterspel.livejournal.com]

Evil, dangermousie, you are evil. No, I didn't look at the spoilers, I very quickly scrolled past them to get down here!

:P

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Heh. I can't help it. I fell off the spoiler free wagon with a huge and satisfying thud :P

[life-on-queen.livejournal.com]

I did the same thing. Heh. Did manage to catch that last one, though. I heard about someone leaving after 12, knew it couldn't be JD because of the contract thang, and knew, as I watched the season shape up, that it had to be Doughnut.

Poor Doughnut. Heeh.

Any news on the Meg-nancy front? (still not looking)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Not to my knowledge. Robot-spawn is a scary thought, though!

[life-on-queen.livejournal.com]

Ugh, no robot spawn. The Kane Legacy must END. (Unless, y'know, Keith doctored those DNA tests *hee*). But I am reluctantly considering the possibility that in addition to dumping Meg, Duncan may have dumped Meg after she had Robot-spawn aborted. Although, that seems way with the Out-of-Character for St. Blonde. Or could she have been e-mailing Duncan to tell him that he was going to be a daddy?

Possibilities, possibilities. Although, there again, I'm thinking that idea doesn't quite jib with how Meg was acting in the preem...

*twisty, twisty plots*

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't be surprised if Duncan ditched Meg and refused to deal. Unlike Logan, who with all his faults, is not a coward, Duncan definitely is.

I think any baby of Meg's is pretty dead by now, abortion or crash. Of course, could be something else, too....*curious minds want to know*

[life-on-queen.livejournal.com]

I have to admit that someone who blacked out his sister's murder does not have the best coping skills. I can totally see him abandoning Meg if she had a pregnancy scare (which, now that I think about it, fits better than Meg having an abortion because, really, St. Blonde? I don't buy it). Also, if Meg were Meg-nant, I think she'd totally tell Veronica, if for no other reason than to make her feel guilty as hell for stealing Duncan.

My friend who worked on an epilepsy module for a health education website at the Hospital for SickKids has decided that Duncan's seizures are psychogenic but that his doctor hasn't figured that out yet. Probably all those drugs they're putting in his system aren't helping him, just making it worse

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

*is ignorant* what is psychogenic? Does it mean they are in his head?

The thing is, Duncan does not cope well at all. That is probably because he had a very sheltered and happy upbringing, with no whim unmet, golden boy, beloved of parents etc etc. "Learning" V was his sister was probably the first big "you can't have this" he's ever had.

Contrast this with Logan, whose upbringing was guaranteed to either break him or make him really strong (it did both: he is dysfunctional as heck, but he also won't back down, no matter what). I was rewatching ATttD on the weekend (my favorite VM ep), and I was struck by how Logan faced down all the 09ers, his whole social sphere, with no hestitation, over Veronica (and of course the secrecy thing was her idea in the first place, not his), which is such a contrast to Duncan, who admitted in that same episode that he just assumed they had an unspoken secret agreement and never stood up for her in the whole year since Lilly's death.

OK, now I completely rambled OT...

[life-on-queen.livejournal.com]

what is psychogenic? Does it mean they are in his head?

Basically. It means that the cause is psychological rather than physiological.

I think I agree with you about Logan and Duncan. Logan is a giant ass but he's also mentally tough and sincere in a way. Logan has issues out the wazoo in terms of self-esteem (not surprising as a child abuse survivor) but he's very upfront about the people he likes and those he doesn't. Logan would never sleep with a girl and then act like nothing happened: Logan is weirdly chivalrous in a way that you'd expect Duncan to be but isn't.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I like that with Logan, "what you see is what you get," i.e. you are never in a state of doubt what his feelings towards you are (which is ironic, considering he is the child of actors). With Duncan? Good luck fishing!

[thelana.livejournal.com]

-Duncan is leaving after 12th ep. (Woo-hoo!)

Now the only question is, killer? Or murder victim? Bwahahahahha!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Heh. Or maybe he'll have that nervous break-down he is overdue for (no one can be that repressed) and get taken away. Or maybe just move in with Mommy and Daddy as if Veronica ditches him (and it's clearly heading to splitsville) he really doesn't have much to keep him in Neptune. Or maybe he and Coma Girl will elope :P I don't care which because he is so boring.

[thelana.livejournal.com]

You are right, murder victim would probably be less fun for you because Veronica would have something new to obsess over :)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Besides, the girl is already obsessing over the bus crash, and if Logan has jail hanging over him for something V believes he didn't do, I can't see her completely standing by, so she already has enough mysteries.

[jammer77.livejournal.com]

Bring on the spoilers!! Whee!!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yay! Another spoiler-lover! Always glad to see another join the fold :P

Every time I see your icon I just die...

[jammer77.livejournal.com]

I tried to stay away but I just couldn't. I need to know!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

The only way I was able to get through the VD of it all was by finding those happy happy happy 2.8 spoilers, what with the Logan rescue and working together and all...

[jammer77.livejournal.com]

I know! It warms the cockles of me heart. :)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Heee. This means he rescues her twice. And we all know how the WOCD rescue ended... *please, please TPTB*

[(Anonymous)]

Charlie Hustle is the nickname of baseball player Pete Rose, the all-time hits leader, who was banned from baseball for betting on baseball games(including games involving his own team, the Cincinnati Reds, which he was managing at the time).
So basically, Terrence Cook must be involved in something similiar.

I had a theory regarding Duncan and Meg, but I don't know if it makes any sense, but I'll give a whirl:

Remember that story where RT said that if Aaron was revealed as Lilly's killer, his back-up plan was Duncan and Duncan would have been faking everything? What if RT worked that in this year, but a little differently?

I'm thinking that Duncan and Meg never broke up, that they are/were playing everyone into thinking they're no longer a couple.

Now how would it work? Sometime before the end of the school year, one wanted to break it off with the other(whether it was Meg, because of Duncan's outburst in AtttD, or Duncan, because Veronica told him they weren't siblings), but in the emotion of it all, one of them spilled their secret(either Duncan told Meg that he had thought that Veronica was his sister and that he still has feelings for Veronica and it conflicts with his feelings for Meg, or Meg told him she was pregnant or that she and/or Lizzie and/or their youngest sister are being abused by their father).

So they confide in each other, pretending to break up, but still seeing each other on the sly. Then, when Veronica broke up with Logan, with Meg's blessing, Duncan pursued Veronica to try and resolve his feelings for Veronica. Which would mean that Duncan's shadowing of Veronica at her job and Meg's bitchiness at Veronica over the "breakup" were acts. But I know there's some holes in this somewhere.

== BearDogg-X ==

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the info re: C. Hustle. Because I was left completely in the dark :)

Re: Meg/Duncan theory. It's interesting and it could work. It would certainly explain D's emotional distance. Honestly speaking, I have no idea what Meg's secret is and what's going on with Duncan.

[beck-liz.livejournal.com]

Oh, man. I saw the first couple, and realized that while I thought I wanted to know that, I really didn't. You are a temptress. Heh.

*still not looking at the rest*

*NOT LOOKING*

*really not looking*

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Heee. The more "severe" ones are lower down, anyway :)

[beck-liz.livejournal.com]

Oh, good. Whew.

If someone were to ask me my position on spoilers, I'd say: it depends. If it's a show like VM or BSG, I trust the writers and I don't want to know. If it's a show like Lost that I'm not invested in, I don't care. Then there are the shows like Buffy, where toward the end I felt like I *had* to know so I could be prepared for the fallout, if that makes sense.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

It makes perfect sense. See, I trust the authors and all that, but I also have no will power or concept of delayed gratification :P

Especially since rarely is everything on the show exactly what I want so I want to know what's happening.

E.g. if Logan and Veronica were together, I'd be less inclined to browse (but I still would to see if they stay together etc), and if everyone was happy and hooked up on BSG I'd not browse, but I'd also know I was watching thr wrong show...