Thoughts on Veronica Mars, 2.04
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dangermousieDidn't think it was as good as last week's but still fun.
The stuff I found by far the most interesting in this ep was the Duncan-Veronica interactions. Because in a way, Veronica is reaping karma for first season: she did seem to be very unforthright with either Leo or Logan in S1. She'd not explain until pushed and tended to bail and cover up. Well, now she is with a guy who's perfected this to an art. Duncan has a wall, and it's not one she can scale. Every time she tries to talk at all, he shuts down. He won't let her in at all.
That relationship is severely doomed in the long run if they don't discuss anything of importance: she has no idea Duncan's been visiting Meg. Every freaking day. And that Meg's sister feels close enough to him to come for help. And when she does try to talk to him, he completely evades. A relationship where one of the parties is completely unwilling to get emotionally close and to share? Forget it. When he blows up at her about not knowing Meg was important to him? Shut up, Duncan. How could she, when you spend all your time pretending to her you didn't care.
And forget the part about wanting her to hide in the bedroom as if he is ashamed of her (after they seem to have failed to have sex. He is asleep, she is wearing an unsexy tee, typing. People who are married for 30 years have more passion). I really wonder what's on Meg's computer that's shocking enough to have her parents want to pull the plug if they found out. Damn Veronica's moral scruples. :)
I loved the scene with Logan and the progress of the mystery (everyone and their brother was at the party, so it could have been anyone who called, Yay!). I just realized that if Veronica realizes she wants him in the future, she will really have to work for it. He has managed to detach and she largely can't get to him any more (though you do see cracks in the flip facade a bit). He has distanced himself, and really got a spine, and won't let her close enough to hurt him again. Well, I hope he will, eventually, as that scene had more chemistry than all of Duncan/Veronica's frustrating, everything-is-facade interactions.
MotW: quite funny, but Julie really got on my nerves. That Scottish guy had a lucky escape from the psycho.
So, Alicia's "mystery" involved Wallace's father. No surprise. And she lied to Keith. Bad, bad, bad. Poor Keith's luck isn't any better than it was with Lianne, it appears.
They seem to be setting up a Veronica-Jackie confrontation. Whatever. Yawn.
And Weevil is back. Yay!
The stuff I found by far the most interesting in this ep was the Duncan-Veronica interactions. Because in a way, Veronica is reaping karma for first season: she did seem to be very unforthright with either Leo or Logan in S1. She'd not explain until pushed and tended to bail and cover up. Well, now she is with a guy who's perfected this to an art. Duncan has a wall, and it's not one she can scale. Every time she tries to talk at all, he shuts down. He won't let her in at all.
That relationship is severely doomed in the long run if they don't discuss anything of importance: she has no idea Duncan's been visiting Meg. Every freaking day. And that Meg's sister feels close enough to him to come for help. And when she does try to talk to him, he completely evades. A relationship where one of the parties is completely unwilling to get emotionally close and to share? Forget it. When he blows up at her about not knowing Meg was important to him? Shut up, Duncan. How could she, when you spend all your time pretending to her you didn't care.
And forget the part about wanting her to hide in the bedroom as if he is ashamed of her (after they seem to have failed to have sex. He is asleep, she is wearing an unsexy tee, typing. People who are married for 30 years have more passion). I really wonder what's on Meg's computer that's shocking enough to have her parents want to pull the plug if they found out. Damn Veronica's moral scruples. :)
I loved the scene with Logan and the progress of the mystery (everyone and their brother was at the party, so it could have been anyone who called, Yay!). I just realized that if Veronica realizes she wants him in the future, she will really have to work for it. He has managed to detach and she largely can't get to him any more (though you do see cracks in the flip facade a bit). He has distanced himself, and really got a spine, and won't let her close enough to hurt him again. Well, I hope he will, eventually, as that scene had more chemistry than all of Duncan/Veronica's frustrating, everything-is-facade interactions.
MotW: quite funny, but Julie really got on my nerves. That Scottish guy had a lucky escape from the psycho.
So, Alicia's "mystery" involved Wallace's father. No surprise. And she lied to Keith. Bad, bad, bad. Poor Keith's luck isn't any better than it was with Lianne, it appears.
They seem to be setting up a Veronica-Jackie confrontation. Whatever. Yawn.
And Weevil is back. Yay!
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Date: 2005-10-20 03:16 am (UTC)I am really not feeling the Duncan love this season. I could go so far as to say that I'm hating him lately, particularly tonight. The sad thing about this relationship is that not only do I get angry that he acts like a tool, but I get angry at Veronica for putting up with it. I hope this is what the writers intended.
What bothers me the most about him is that when she wants to talk, and he refuses, he acts pissed that she even brought something up. Like, how dare she?
Any scene where Veronica wasn't with him was fine though. I loved all of Keith's scenes. I wish Logan had been in it a little more, but I enjoyed his snark and he looked nice in blue. I also like that he seems detached and distant. I didn't want to see him mooning over her. He has finally grown a spine. I'm not sure how that happened on a story level, since we didn't see it, but I guess being left alone can do that you.
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Date: 2005-10-20 04:31 am (UTC)If you think about it, their relationship is an utter failure: there is no emotional intimacy (they don't talk about anything important AT ALL), there is no physical satisfaction (it's made clear Duncan is just not doing it in the sack) and they don't even have fun together. At this point, the girl is just holding on to an illusion she should let go of.
Re: Logan. I am also glad to see him detach. It bodes well for his future balance and mental health. His growing a spine makes sense. There is only so much someone will take. Logan has a very high breaking point on that score, but he finally reached it, helped no doubt by the fact that he's been left completely alone, and at rock bottom, and survived.
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Date: 2005-10-20 05:04 am (UTC)also? toss me solidly in the Veronica-and-Logan-should-get-back-together camp.
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Date: 2005-10-20 02:41 pm (UTC)I adore V too, but I think she would be a nightmare as a girlfriend. And I think she is learning the hard way how bad it is to have a SO that hides things all the time, won't let you in, and would bail rather than talk.
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Date: 2005-10-20 09:37 pm (UTC)did you read Whedon's review of the first season DVD's? he says some amazing stuff about the core of the show.
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Date: 2005-10-21 02:45 am (UTC)Yes, working for her Dad not only taught her the skills but keeps the seedier side of life in front of her eyes all the time...
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Date: 2005-10-20 05:24 am (UTC)Amen. There's nothing really there between them except clinging to the memories of what was and trying to pretend that that's what still is.
And, yes, I hope Veronica will have to work to get Logan back. He certainly appears to have detached and is blatant about being over her. But with Logan, you do have to wonder how much is a facade for self-protection.
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Date: 2005-10-20 02:33 pm (UTC)Because she's always had his attention, to an extraordinary degree, whether it was because he was sniping at her in the first half of Season 1, or necking with her in girls' bathrooms in the second half of Season 1, or even snarking about her and Duncan in the beginning of this season.
She's always had his interest. And Logan is a very intense individual, so when he is interested, he is very interested. But last night, I realized that this is over. Whatever his feelings are (and it's clear he still has those), he has managed to successfully wall-off, detach and break away. In that conversation yesterday, he is not mooning over her, but he isn't sniping at her either. He is just...impatiently bored. It's as if e isn't invested enough to snipe. And, since I am sure this is temporary and a self-protective measure on his part, not a permanent hardening, am actually rather pleased. Veronica might have to work for it, if she ever wants to get back to friendly basics (or a relationship, really), and I think that would be pretty salutory, for both of them.
I wonder if she'll feel that her window of opportunity had closed.
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Date: 2005-10-20 10:40 am (UTC)I kind of saw the Wallace's father thing coming, but it's cool nonetheless.
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Date: 2005-10-20 02:39 pm (UTC)Noooooooooooooo!
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Date: 2005-10-20 09:19 pm (UTC)no subject
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