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Am thinking of getting a paid account, as I want more icons and to fiddle with my layout.

Also, watching Clone Wars cartoons made me think of a variety of things:

1. The Clone War is excessively evil and excessively clever. Because both armies are completely expendable (droids v. clones), both sides just seem to transport them everywhere and inflict horrible carnage because they don't care about the casualty rates. This makes it very widespread, affecting many many many, which gives Palpatine extra legitimacy when he promises peace in exchange for Empire. Also, don't the Jedi (or any other good guys) realize that the Clones are NOT droids. They might be modified, but they are people. Yet no one ever treats them as such. Not the bad guys, not the good guys, not the Separatists, not the Empire, not the Jedi, not the Rebels. Interesting, to say the least.

2. By using armies that are uber-obedient even if you tell them to jump off a cliff, it really minimizes the importance of the Jedi. The role of the leaders in war is, in large part, to inspire the troups, but automatons need no inspiration. Clever Palpy, making Jedi irrelevant. And after all, even if a Jedi can take out 100 before dying but the ratio is stacked more than 100/1 and the troups won't grumble, then all Jedi will eventually be taken out, especially if he has someone like Grivous who can take Jedi out faster than they can make new ones (it takes years to create a new one after all).

Go read:
http://www.soulofthejedi.net/cgi-bin/stories/display.cgi?id=88&sort=rating&storyview=toc&chapter=1&cat=2

It is my fave SW fanfic. It's A/P of course, but neither dreadfully dark nor excessively mushy. Me likes!

Date: 2005-04-12 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyaeryn.livejournal.com
You're definitely on to something with those observations.

That fic: it's one of my favorites as well. Meredith's one of my favorite authors; she has a way with emotional imagery - it's almost otherworldly, yet at the same time you know exactly what she's talking about. And the little moments like: 'why didn't you stay a little boy?' 'I would have, if I'd known it would make you happy' - bang-on in-character.

Date: 2005-04-12 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
This is the first Meredith fic, but I am certainly going to look for more. Yes, it is bang-on character...and the imagery stays with me.

I am on a hunt for good A/P fanfic...

Date: 2005-04-12 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyaeryn.livejournal.com
Meredith actually has an LJ ([livejournal.com profile] garnettrees); you can find some of her fics there... this link also has some pretty good recs, if you haven't read these.

Date: 2005-04-12 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thank you thank you thank you! *is off to explore*

Date: 2005-04-13 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvensapphire.livejournal.com
Also, don't the Jedi (or any other good guys) realize that the Clones are NOT droids. I've often wondered that myself. My mom and I discussed that - how the change in warfare goes from slicing up droids (who aren't technically "living" - barring Threepio and R2 ;D), to people killing other people. It changes everything. Plus, the fact that they are dehumanized adds to the later power of the Empire and the unimportance of the Storm Troopers as individuals. And I think you're spot on with everything else, too.

You actually found a good fic?!? That's exciting. *goes to check it out* :)

Date: 2005-04-13 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Agreed with you and your Mom. I think using the clones like this (by forcing the Jedi in the position where they have to use them), dehumanizes even the Jedi itself: it forces them to do a wrong.

Date: 2005-04-13 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvensapphire.livejournal.com
That's true. The Jedi, who stand for peace and justice, are forced to become warriors. They don't choose it, and it ends up killing (almost) every one of them, and destroying all they worked for. Poor Obi-Wan and Yoda. Imagine being all that's left...

Date: 2005-04-13 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wasabi-girl1.livejournal.com
Grr, I wanna see the Clone Wars cartoons! >_<

Also, I thought the same thing about the clones and the moral ramifications of it all.

Date: 2005-04-13 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Glad to see I wasn't the only one :)

And the toons are goooood.

Date: 2005-04-13 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wasabi-girl1.livejournal.com
I don't get the channel that plays them...but my brother was thinking of buying them on DVD.

Date: 2005-04-14 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ewanspotter.livejournal.com
What are you feelings on Obi stories?

Date: 2005-04-14 03:30 am (UTC)

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