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Husband and I just watched X-Men, the Last Stand, and though I am probably the last person on my f-list to watch this, it's still probably a good idea to cut this so I will.

First off, have to mention that all I know about X-men are from the three movies and the knowledge gleaned from Husband and Best Friend who are both a bit of X-Men fans.

Overall, I liked it a lot, though like the other two X-Men movies it reminded me of nothing else as much as a complicated, two-hour season finale for some fabulous show that I haven't watched. Because by its very nature, unlike Batman or Spiderman or Superman, X-Men deals with a world full of various superhero characters, none of them gets a huge scope in the movies. You get tantalizing glimpses and all that, but you didn't get much of anyone in this movie except Magneto and Wolverine, and not too much even of them. I don't mind that (after all, it's based on years and years of comics), it actually makes me more interested in the world created and the characters and leaves more scope for the imagination, but it certainly gives the thing a different vibe.

Anyhow, looooong write-up behind the cut. Largely Jean/Wolverine/Scott centric.



Anyway, X-Men? It was total cheese, but it was good cheese. Just the kind I like. I have to confess to giggling at the end, when in a pose right out of a romance novel cover, Wolverine held dying Jean in his arms, her outfit and red hair streaming in the wind, and screamed "Nooooooo" his torso all bare and channeling Anakin. Heh. But it was a kind, happy, satisfied giggle, the way many Bolly movie angsts makes me feel.

I think this is where the overload of angst kicked it. At first, angst was sad. But by the end of the movie, there was so much of it, it was just amusing me, in a good happy way.

Also the whole "save me" "I love you" *stab* thing made me think about Buffy's season two finale. Of course, I do have to point out that if he loved the girl so much, how about stabbing her with the needle thing instead and getting her unmutated (Magneto didn't really need all four needles in him). Yes, yes, she wanted to die, but how about letting her decide it when she wasn't all strung out on Evil Juice? If she wanted to off herself then, she always could. Granted, chances of her getting over the fact that she's killed tons of people, among them her lover and her father figure (thankfully two different individuals) are probably not really high, but still... Of course, all these characters get resurrected more than Jesus in the passion plays, so death is a minor hurdle in these stories anyhow :)


But when he tells her it's all about her, not those other people. Whoa. I generally find Wolverine as sex-appealable as a wet dishcloth, but he was hot there. I do have to say that the X-Men movies are one of the rare instances where I both buy and like the love triangle. Maybe because both Cyclops and Wolverine really love Jean, and Jean loves Cyclops but you can see she has a certain attraction to Wolverine and it's all portrayed very well (I think it's significant that the Jean-Id aka Phoenix jumped Wolverine on the coma table. In a most random reference ever, it reminded me of that one episode of Fushigi Yuugi where Miaka was trapped in a mirror and a 'mirror-Miaka,' who represented the hidden parts of Miaka, came out, and instead of googly-eyeing Tamahome, Miaka's bf, she made out with Hotohori, the guy who liked Miaka)

I might be a goth-in-training, but I thought Jean and Scott having their graves next to each other was actually romantic. But then I am probably one of the five fangirls for Scott and the Scott/Jean shippers. Part of it is the huge shallowness: I find the actor who plays Scott uber-hot, while Hugh Jackman, while generally good-looking (though not my thing) is quite un-sexy to me as Wolverine. I want him to shave off the sideburns, get a hair-cut, and stop wearing wife-beaters circa 1975. Then we could maybe talk. Of course, Best Friend is a huge Cyclops fangirl, from way back (she has a thing for clean cut, establishment guys and so do I :D) so her reaction in having the guy offed was...vocal.

But I think it's mainly the angst. I absolutely loved the scene where she appears in front of him, and he can't believe it and the whole scene has this complete air of unreality and you get the feel he doesn't care how or why or even if it's real, as long as she is there, and she wants him to take off his glasses, and he is terrified and his eyes are screwed shut as tightly as he can but then he can't bear it and does open them and he can finally look at her with his own eyes (digression: he must have super-special eyelids :D) and they kiss and it's so angsty and romantic and then of course her power goes haywire and she kills him and actually I don't think he cares too much at that moment. I eat this stuff up with a spoon. I need fanfic.

I do love her breaking down later and freaking out in an uncontrollable manner when she remembers what she did to Scott. I think a lot of her rage and messed-uppedness issues is because she is trying to escape the knowledge of what she's done, and the pain it causes her, but of course that causes further distraction so further attempt to escape and so on. It's a vicious cycle. Because I don't think she wanted to kill Scott, she just couldn't control her powers, as she just woke up. She didn't want to kill Xavier, she just snapped and was angry and her power was that great. etc etc etc.

And I love the scene when she wakes up on that coma table, and that whole scene with her and Wolverine, when she notices him looking at her, and his reaction is this heart-breaking mixture of joy and shame and lust and love and disbelief. And then of course the make-out scene is super hot and I am sure this is something he's fantasized about before, this is like all his dreams come true: Jean is back from the dead, and she actually wants him but then of course...

I love the fucking love triangle.

I have to say Jean is lucky though that the two guys she came across when she first came to were the only two men who loved her and missed her enough to just basically be overwhelmed by her being back enough not to care about anything else. They probably would have bought "the Keebler elves brought me back" explanation. If your dead True Love just came back to life, and she is acting a bit odd ('take off your glasses, Scott even though I am normally all about not being crispified,' 'let me make out with you, Logan, even though I just came out of a coma and I have a boyfriend who is not you'), oh actually, let's back up, if she came back to life, period, I'd probably take a step back and go 'wait a second. There is something not right,' not try to stick my tongue down her throat. But oh well...

Of course, as Husband pointed out, with Scott at least, at that point she was dealing with someone who was mentally screwed up enough to go to a random lake in the middle of nowhere and do an equivalent of yelling "Stellaaaaaaaaaa!" I do have to say though, if I shuffled off this mortal coil a bit on the untimely side, I'd rather my bf went all emo depressive and really upset and fell to bits (Scott), rather then offer bits of consolatory philosophy or walk around the grounds content enjoying the scenery (Logan). Especially if he offed me. I guess I am a selfish bitch.

Have you noticed that if you are hot and you angstily grieve in the movies, you always express it by not shaving? But you don't grow a beard, you always have a two day stubble, so you remember to shave every other day? And also, after shaving you hibernate, because the audience only sees you on the day AFTER the shave, with the stubble.

Also, Jean was working out some severe issues. She killed the guy who'd been inside her head (Xavier) and the guy who's been inside her...erm, you get the point (Scott). Down with the patriarchy. Or something. Of course, Logan was able to kill her anyway, so I am not sure what post-modern message you can get from that, except for guys who have the most hair win :) Also, I get the feeling she offed her parents. If not, I hope they have a good house insurance, because that place was totaled.

Basically, Jean was having a huge, superhero-sized PMS attack that went like this:

"Xavier, you've been in my head. And you made me do homework when I was younger. DIIIIIIEEEEE!"
"Mom, you didn't buy me a pony when I was 10. DIIIIIEEEE!"
"Dad, remember that time you told me I needed a time out? DIIIIIEEEE!"
"Scott, I told you to do the fucking dishes! DIIIIIEEEE!"
"Various Extras, stop breathing so loud. DIIIIIEEEE!"
"Logan, how many times must I point out not to smoke the cigars indoors? DIIIEEEEE!"

That's totally me on a bad day, minus the death and destruction.

And now that we've covered the love triangle, on to the other bits.

I loved Magneto's reaction when he saw Xavier die. He was devastated. Enemies or not, they are also friends. No matter what. I liked it.

Surely I can't be the only one who wants to read Wolverine/Storm? I could so see that.

I like Rogue. I like Bobby. It was all so cute. I like Kitty too.

Angel was interesting, and awwwww, he and daddy bonded. And he hid. Poor cool hot emo boy. But for future reference, strap patient to a gurney AFTER he is unconscious. And if he is flipping out already, don't tell him it will hurt and be weird.

And if the cure is only temporary (as Magneto's thing at the end seems to indicate), it's still great for Rogue as it can be her version of viagra so she can touch Bobby all she likes.

Also, bridge would not hold still like this, would collapse as soon as Magneto let go.

Overall, waaaaay too much fun.

Now point me towards fanfic sites. And please link me to any X-men write-ups you did.

Date: 2006-06-11 08:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fivil.livejournal.com
http://fivil.livejournal.com/227567.html#cutid1

I wish I could've enjoyed it as you did but Brett Ratner just fucked up the concept for me too much. Damn him.

Also, have you not been receiving comment emails or are you just too busy to reply to comments? Was wondering, since you usually reply to them but didn't reply to some I left yesterday (like the one about Fanaa & genre).

Date: 2006-06-11 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thank you for the link. I am off to read! I don't generally get comment emails: I check them through 'my LJ' feature. I posted this thing at 4am last night and went off to bed, but I did check them this morning and replied. Sorry for the delay :)

Date: 2006-06-13 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fivil.livejournal.com
It's okay! I do the e-mail thing, though the comment-page visiting would be better since I could take more out of the icons I have.

Anyways, it does explain why you didn't reply to this looong comment I left at your post about Dumm Dumm Dumm, a Tamil flick. The comment is too months old but since you probably haven't seen a Tamil film after DDD, I thought I'd point it out. :)

Date: 2006-06-11 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
P.S. I am an idiot. I apparently read and commented on your review before, heeee.

Re: mutant school and 'cure' kid. He has to touch you for your mutation to go away, and it's only temporary unless in drug form, so I can see keeping him in school.

What I do want to know is what kind of weird school has a graveyard on their front lawn :)

Date: 2006-06-12 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fivil.livejournal.com
So that the students can realize that they go to a school whose students occasionally die tragic deaths because of their powers. Mmm, safety. ;)

Date: 2006-06-12 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
"Listen up, kids! If you die on a mission, you get buried in the front. If you die in training, you go in the back!"

Date: 2006-06-13 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fivil.livejournal.com
Bwahahahhaha.

Date: 2006-06-11 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greycoupon.livejournal.com
*raises hand*

I like Jean/Scott and Wolverine bugs me. Yes, he so needs to shave! I need to see this movie again. I fell asleep the first time. No I don't quite know how I managed that, either.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Heeeee. YESSSSS! I am not alone! Being bad-ass doesn't mean you have to have the worst haircut I've ever seen. Word to the wise, Logan. You don't have to be a metrosexual, but if you'd shaved once in a while, it might be easier t get dates :P

Re: Jean/Scott. I am all about long-term couples. Vested interest, what with Husband and all that :) Plus I love guys who have to keep a tight control on. Personal kink :)

Date: 2006-06-11 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adhuri-roshni.livejournal.com
Wolverine! Cyclops is the man, but James Marsden is just so ugh, eye candy or not. And I immediately called back Buffy during the Logan/Jean ending. *sniffle*

It actually might not be the last even though it was meant to be a trilogy...or something. Unless the ending and the scene after the credits was for nothing, in which case what teases!

Date: 2006-06-11 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I really hope they leave this movie as the last. There are only so many ressurections I can buy :)

James Marsden is just so ugh, eye candy or not.

I am so shallow. I think he is one of the handsomest guys I've ever seen, so I wouldn't care if he just stood still throughout the entire movie. I'd just ogle him.

Date: 2006-06-11 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
I like both, it's as simple as that.

Sadly, I have little to no experience with the X-Men online fandom, but there's the Scott/Jean manifesto with a couple of links at the bottom.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thank you! That manifesto is chock-full of really interesting links.

I like both, it's as simple as that.

Heeee. you would. I got the sense that at least in the movieverse, being Jean/Scott is the equivalent of being Duncan/Veronica in VM. A place of awesome solitude :P Glad to see it's not the case...

Date: 2006-06-11 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
Actually, the way I understood it the big thing in movieverse is Wolverine/Rogue. And that Scott/Jean is pretty big in the comicverse at least.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I stand corrected. Wolverine/Rogue I could see, except for any inherent ickiness I find in a semi father/daughter thing. But I can certainly see why people ship them.

Hmmm, now, I need an obscure one to be contrary. I know. Colossus/Juggernaut. They can compare strengths and it's absolutely WTF :P

Naaaah, I'll stick to my vanilla Scott/Jean thing...

Though Magneto/Xavier is kinda there...

Date: 2006-06-11 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
M/X is kinda obvious ;D

I have to say though; I love those manifesto things, gives you such easy access and supplies you with links in case you want to dvelve into the fanfiction a bit without getting too involved. I find that so practical. I'm pretty sure that Wolverine/Rogue and Magneto/Xavier have their manifesto as well.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
M/X is kinda obvious ;D

Yup, not a slasher myself, but could so see that pairing

I've found shipper manifestos immensely helpful for a variety of fandoms of which I am not a member but want to know a bit about.

And yeah, I am going to check out other xmen manifestos and see what's there...

Date: 2006-06-11 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
I was never a big Logan fan in the comics (Gambit was my boy), but he works in the movie sheerly from Hugh Jackman's presence, just like Scott doesn't work very well from Marsden's presence.

I can buy Logan not being quite as over dramatic as Scott since Logan might have loved her, but Jean was never his. Logan also tends to repress like no tomorrow.

Did you notice that for some reason he kept his pants at the end? Did you wonder why Xavier, if he can figure out right away how Jean survived, why couldn't he figure out that might be a possibility earlier? Did you wonder why no one seemed to miss Scott after his initial "she seems to have dissipated him" scene? So many pratfalls to the movie, but it was good cheese.

http://crumpeteer.livejournal.com/202091.html#cutid1

My small write up on it all.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
That was a great write-up!

I can buy Logan not being quite as over dramatic as Scott since Logan might have loved her, but Jean was never his. Logan also tends to repress like no tomorrow.

That's a good point. And of course, he also might have succumbed to selective shaving but with him, how could we tell? :P

Did you notice that for some reason he kept his pants at the end?

Even Jean's awesome power crumbles in front of the censors. Heeeee. Though she would have earned undying gratitude of a number of fangirls if she dissolved his pants, I think.

Did you wonder why no one seemed to miss Scott after his initial "she seems to have dissipated him" scene?

Logan thought process seems simple: "Exchange hot guy for hot girl? Hell yeah." The rest were probably "oh you know that Cyclops. Always wandering with his glasses off." Seriously though, I give them a little slack as they were so shocked by Jean being back and did ask after Scott and probably just assumed he bought it in whatever was the weirdness that brought her back until they learned otherwise.

So, basically, all the death and destruction is Cyclops' fault? If he didn't boil the lake she wouldn't be out blah blah blah. Emo angst (much as I love that he actually loses control there so spectacularly. Let it all out, repress boy) will never lead to anything good.

Date: 2006-06-11 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
Did you notice that for some reason he kept his pants at the end?

Points to name of journal. Why? Tell me whyyyyy?

Date: 2006-06-12 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
For the censors are mightier than the uber-mutant! Heeeee.

Date: 2006-06-11 02:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ancarett
Longtime Scott/Jean fangirl (from the comics) so this third movie plot, leaked last summer, had me going "Argh!" -- Wolverine, in the comics, has carried quite a torch for Jean but she was really not interested in him until, as in the movie, they decided to switch around the characters something fierce.

Makes me cranky and I've refused to watch the movie in the cinema.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Wolverine, in the comics, has carried quite a torch for Jean but she was really not interested in him

That's what Husband and Best Friend told me.

I don't really get the feeling in third movie that she loves Logan. Her aleter ego, which is basically every momentary impulse, no control, does the whole 'ooooh hot. Sex me' but that's quite different and about it.

But I can certainly understand the upset. And that icon is soooo appropriate. Magneto and his capes...

Date: 2006-06-11 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queen-haq.livejournal.com
I was a huge fan of the first two and when I heard Brett Ratner was taking over the franchise, my expectations dropped like woah. When I went in to watch the movie, I was expecting TOTAL AND UTTER SHIT. I think because of that, I was surprised to find it didn't suck. Yeah it was cheesy and there were some things that made me roll my eyes but in the end, I enjoyed it.

I'm a total Wolverine girl... I used to watch the cartoon and yeah, I liked him a lot back then but then I remember Hugh Jackman's amazing, magnetic performance as Wolveine in the first one (god, I get shivers just thinking about his introduction scene in the boxing match) and I fucking fell in love with him. Cyclops has always been too "good" for my taste. I'm not sure how I feel about Jean/Logan. I liked them in the first movie but then found them to be blah in the second.

Sigh. So many things to ponder.

Date: 2006-06-11 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yeah, I wasn't expecting anything at all, so I enjoyed it.

Cyclops has always been too "good" for my taste.

I am the absolute 'good boy' girl. Never ever in rl have I ever wanted a bad boy. Too self-preservationy. And even in fiction it's the same. Logan from VM is about the sole exception. Ahhhhh, Logan (Echolls).....

*gets completely diverted from topic*

Date: 2006-06-11 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wasabi-girl1.livejournal.com
Have you noticed that if you are hot and you angstily grieve in the movies, you always express it by not shaving? But you don't grow a beard, you always have a two day stubble, so you remember to shave every other day? And also, after shaving you hibernate, because the audience only sees you on the day AFTER the shave, with the stubble.

Hahaha, so true!

As for the Wolvie/Storm deal, I think they were trying to hint at it to make viewers feel that the two of them would have someone at the end of the movie.

But I totally could see the Xavier/Magneto. It's always been there, I tells ya! ;)

Date: 2006-06-11 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yay, I am not the only one who saw Wolvie/Storm!

And you are so RIGHT ON about Xavier/Magneto. Seriously. I could see that so easily.

Date: 2006-06-11 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autumnflame.livejournal.com
Kitty Pryde was pretty awesome, at least in the final fight scene. :) But I was kinda sad that it was all about the Bobby/Kitty potential--I want me some Colossus/Kitty!

I'm also fond of Wolverine/Storm--not so much in the movie, but because of the Ultimate X-Men lineup, where they did actually hook up (albeit briefly).

Date: 2006-06-12 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Are Colossus/Kitty canon? The guy who was playing Colossus was yummy...

Date: 2006-06-14 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autumnflame.livejournal.com
Yup yup, at least in the main X-men continuity.

Date: 2006-06-15 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Oooooh, Neat!

Date: 2006-06-11 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I am a total sucker for the Wolverine-Jean-Scott thing in the movies. (Perhaps no surprise as I wrote about my love for love triangles recently). And while I think Hugh Jackman is super hot, I loved that Jean was all about the stable guy and not the half-wild guy, because she's sensible, y'all. Until she goes all Phoenixy that is. And as they never really worked out what to do with Cyclops in the films (beyond put him in horrid plaid pants, that is) I was glad they put him out of his misery.

As for not shooting her with the cure, hmmm. I get the feeling that Wolverine is not so good with the long term thinking. If it's not stabby stabby it's a bit out of his range mentally.

And I loved that scene in the medical bay because Wolverine will suspend any sense he has (which may not be a lot) just because he wants so badly to believe she'd pick him.

Here's a link to my posting on the film: http://lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com/65247.html#cutid1

Fanfic for Jean/Scott and Jean/Scott/Wolverine is a bit spotty (the Wolverine/Rogue stuff is a lot easier to find and seems to be better), but here's two that I found that I liked:

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2971535/1/

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1435253/1/

Date: 2006-06-12 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thanks for the links!

If it's not stabby stabby it's a bit out of his range mentally.

LOL. And actually, she probably would have atomised the needle and the ampule. The only reason Logan got as far as he did is because he regenerates. Hmmm, feel better about it.

I am all about the stable guy. The wild one would be out drinking and partying at 2 in the morning and never pick up his socks (but then the nice one is unlikely to pick up his socks either :P)

Date: 2006-06-12 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
Stability is good. And the bit where I loved Jean (I know most people find her blah in the second movie but I love the actress...) was where she pointed this out. Thus crushing Wolverine's wee heart something wicked. For Jean may go crazy in X3 but underneath it all she's a sensible girl.

Date: 2006-06-12 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antiqueskies.livejournal.com
I love your movie write ups. They're hilarious! Just thought I'd share that.

Did you stay for the bit after the credits? Pretty predictable, but was informing as well. ;)

I am a complete Scott and Scott/Jean fangirl. Wolverine has always (and I'm talking as far back as the cartoon in the 90s and the various comics I've perused) bothered me to no end. I hate his temperment the most. Dude, self-control? Not as difficult as it may seem. Just shut the hell up already. Deathdeathdeath. But Hugh Jackman is hot, and the few gratuitous shots of his ass in denim? /swoons/

James Marsden is ridiculously gorgeous. Another example of when I deviate from my norm and go with the clean-cut fellow. Butohmansohot. Besides, the unending angst was delicious in this movie. I ate it up. Yummy.

They really f'd up Rogue in the movies. She was far more interesting in the cartoon, what with her ability to fly, super-strength, etc. And there was no Gambit (the Cajun with the hot accent and deck of cards), which is sad.

Angel always kind of bored me. I mean, blah. Do something cool.

Awwww, Captain Picard Charles Xavier died. Saaaaad. Not really, because I never really cared about him, mainly because the movies did nothing with his storyline as well, and his voice scares the crap out of me in the cartoon.

Beast! Yay! "Fascinating." Haha, always the scientist and incredibly gentle, given his mutation. I still don't believe that was Kelsey Grammar, though.

The real Phoenix/Dark Phoenix storyline is a lot better. A LOT. I've gotten my greedy little hands on copies of a few of the episodes from those storylines and wow, it all makes a lot more sense and is less about random violence against humans. Erm, actually, it doesn't even involve humans initially. Heh. Save the universe! Indeed. Probably my favorite storyline, actually. Then again, I always liked Jean and Scott, both as characters and as a couple. So, y'know, I'm a little biased. Plus, the less Wolverine, the better.

But, I agree: X3 was way fun to watch.

Oh, and fic. There's always the scariness of FFn, but if you do a Google search you can find some good stuff.

Like:
X-Men Movieverse Fanfiction Archive (http://www.xmmff.com/)
Random Scott Summers fangirl website with lots of fic. (http://www.dreamwater.org/scottsummers/index.html)

=)

Date: 2006-06-12 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thanks for the links. *drools in anticipation*

Husband told me the real Dark Phoenix storyline and it sounds interesting.

Picard cracks me up.

James Marsden is ridiculously gorgeous. Another example of when I deviate from my norm and go with the clean-cut fellow. Butohmansohot. Besides, the unending angst was delicious in this movie. I ate it up. Yummy.

Oh yeah. I'd totally come back from the dead for that :P

I love your movie write ups. They're hilarious! Just thought I'd share that.

Thank you!

I did stay for the bit after credits and am still trying to figure out how come the other guy's vocal cords still sound like Picard. Also, I guess when it came to saving himself, the ethical dilemma went moot :P

Date: 2006-06-13 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antiqueskies.livejournal.com
Yesss, surprisingly there is much decent smut. And also much to mock.

Yes, and it makes much more sense. /rolls eyes at the silly movies and their silliness/

Hahaha, have you ever noticed that Picard Patrick Stewart barely looks like he's aged in the last fifteen to twenty years? WTF scary. I hope someday I have that superpower. That and a really shiny, bald head to blind people with and make the lighting director's life hell!

Oh yeah. I'd totally come back from the dead for that :P
Oh totally. Crazy ghost, zombie, whatever. I'd be back if my boyfriend was that ridiculously gorgeous. (Even with having to constantly wear sunglasses! That is quite a feat, if you ask me. /drools/)

Hahaha, shhhhh, don't ruin the writers' fantasies! Besides, if dead guy can sound like Picard, then I can live in my own happy world where Jean and Scott aren't really dead, just in cocoons at the bottom of Alkali Lake. (That wasn't Jean! That was a clone like in the comics! Yesssssssss. /delusional/)

Date: 2006-06-13 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I found a copy of the Dark Phoenix comic in the bookstore yesterday and perused it :P I could see why they couldn't do it in a movie (aliens and fightingon moons) but I wish they could have because so much more nuanced and interesting. And OMG Scott/Jean angst through the roof. (Though the way they drew it, I am kinda hazy on how she killed herself (and I love that she did it and didn't need some big guy to do it for her. Well, secondarily). It sort of looked like she tooked Cyclops' glasses off and became crispified, but am not sure).

Hahaha, have you ever noticed that Picard Patrick Stewart barely looks like he's aged in the last fifteen to twenty years?

I think he is definitely a mutant!

, surprisingly there is much decent smut. And also much to mock.

Totally yes on both. Mmmmmm...smut. There is one author there through whose stuff I am methodically working through. Some others ones are...to be kind...spotty.

Crazy ghost, zombie, whatever. I'd be back if my boyfriend was that ridiculously gorgeous. (Even with having to constantly wear sunglasses! That is quite a feat, if you ask me. /drools/)

Maybe that's his REAL mutant superpower? Being really really really HOT.

if dead guy can sound like Picard, then I can live in my own happy world where Jean and Scott aren't really dead, just in cocoons at the bottom of Alkali Lake

But that makes sense. If Jean is so powerful that a ton of water falling on her wouldn't kill her, Wolverine's claws aren't too much danger. She is probably in some kind of hibernation while being repaired. And as to Scott, they only found his sunglasses so that means he can be coccooned elsewhere ;)

Date: 2006-06-14 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antiqueskies.livejournal.com
Yesss, I wish they hadn't focused the movies on Wolverine. Though I understand why they had to lesson the Scott/Jean stuff--that stuff's complicated, especially after she "dies," and he gets married and there's the kid and the cloning and all that whatnot.

It's a conspiracy! There really ARE mutants among us, and they don't age! Those bastards.

Oooh REC ME PLEASE! Good smut is always welcome!

Hahahahaha, so, what, the UV rays out of his eyes are just a side effect of his smokin' good looks?

....


There needs to be more James Marsden icons. Siiiigh.

Date: 2006-06-14 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
especially after she "dies," and he gets married and there's the kid and the cloning and all that whatnot.


Mmmmm. I foresee happy days perusing comics. This sounds crazier than Bollywood!

Oooh REC ME PLEASE! Good smut is always welcome!

Some of the stuff on this page. It's all one author and I do like her stuff. (it's subdivided up top to comics, novels, short stories etc). Not all of it is my speed but she is really good at summaries and warnings so you know what you get. (Except her Grail story, which I am glad I checked the ending of first, because it all ends in a threesome (Scott/Jean/Angel) and it's not really my bag).

http://www.themedicinewheel.net/comicverse.html

Hahahahaha, so, what, the UV rays out of his eyes are just a side effect of his smokin' good looks? That kinda makes sense.

....
Fic idea. Ouch. Will have to write that sometime now.


definitely. That would be crack. Of the good kind. Please.

There needs to be more James Marsden icons. Siiiigh.

Where do you get yours? because I waaaant.

Date: 2006-06-14 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antiqueskies.livejournal.com
This sounds crazier than Bollywood!
Oh, it's pretty crazy most of the time. Comics began in the 60's, I think. So...there's a lot to go on, lol. And two cartoons, X-Men: The Animated Series (What I grew up on.) and X-Men: Evoltion. All basically have their own mythology going on too, and a lot of it is endless Scott/Jean angst. Yumm.

A threesome with Angel? Whoa random. I've only seen either Rogue or Wolverine thus far. And maybe one Storm one.

/saves page for later/
Yay!

Hahaha, I was actually referring to the one about them both still being alive, but NOW I have an idea for the UV rays thing too. So TWO ideas now. Wonderful.
/jots down the ideas and prepares to blame you for any crackiness they might end up being/ :P

I spent a long time perusing [livejournal.com profile] xmen_icons. The ones I have are all credited in my userpics (http://www.livejournal.com/allpics.bml?user=____chopsticks), since it's probably better that you see what the artist's stuff looks like before you wait for a page to load. Oh, and I found one actual icon of him by [livejournal.com profile] anitabuchan that I'm using as my buddy icon right now. :)

Date: 2006-06-14 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antiqueskies.livejournal.com
This post (http://anitabuchan.livejournal.com/2344.html#cutid1) by [livejournal.com profile] anitabuchan, actually. ;)

Date: 2006-06-14 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Oooooh. I am definitely taking some. They are gorgeous!

/jots down the ideas and prepares to blame you for any crackiness they might end up being/ :P


Yes please!!!

a lot of it is endless Scott/Jean angst

Just the way I like it :P

Date: 2006-06-14 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antiqueskies.livejournal.com
I especially like the last one. /drools/

I have permission to blame you!? Sweet!

Hahaha, oh yeah. The angst, the angst, the angst! It's so heartbreaking to watch. I've been slowly finding episodes from the Dark Phoenix Saga from the animated series, and my little heart is breaking. Poor Scott! It's all so...gah!

Date: 2006-06-29 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vierran45.livejournal.com
I'm catching up on old posts, so here's a link to my write-up of the movie:

http://vierran45.livejournal.com/117306.html

I liked the movie (especially the Wolverine/Phoenix stuff), but was annoyed with the poor development of the story and the obvious plotholes that were there.

I was a big X-men fan for years, but I consider the movies to be in their own alternate reality with some connecting points to the comics, since they obviously can't do everything that was in the written & drawn form.

Date: 2006-06-29 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thanks for the link!

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