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Last night's ep (VM 2.19) was a good, solid ep. A pity first half of season was so lackluster, because the second one is quite good.



And the line of the ep honors go to Logan (but when do they not), with his "Last summer, I made this townie girl moan without using my hands." (or something to that effect) to Veronica. When you consider that last summer, it would have been either Veronica herself or some girl he picked up on rebound? ROFL. In fact, I think Logan making out is the least interesting part of Logan because then he isn't talking (though I certainly think it's a minority position).

I do love that they have playful banter now. They snark, but it isn't bitter. And as always, Logan does give the info that V was looking for (and I love that V was kinda 'I wish I was anywhere else' attitude about asking Logan about his sex life).

Awwww, V saved her father's life by emptying the gun of its bullets. Well, if Keith got almost shot now, I'd imagine that's his requisite 'Keith in mortal peril' scene and he is OK for the rest of the show.

So, Kendall is tied in with the Fitzpatricks. I wonder if there is some further connection between the Casablancas and the Irish gang. Oh well, I'll let VM figure it out.

Butters having a thing for Mac was adorable. If Beaver doesn't come through, she should hook up with him.

Wallace is rather boring me. Also, problems with Jackie going to Sorbonne: if the family assets are frozen, what is she going to pay for it with?

Weevil saving his fromer gang was great.

And Aaron, you clever, clever bastard. Even if it will suck for Logan, I hope you get off. Just don't bring Duncan back, please.

And now non-spoilery speculation on Logan Have you noticed that Logan's been having angst free eps lately? Name cleared, friendly with V, etc etc. Seeing how RT & Co. operate, the boy is overdue for a big doze of angst. What could it be? How about his abusive, murderer, videotaper of sex with Logan's gf father getting off? It looks likely, after all, with that statuette business. I am rather torn on this one, because it would suck beyond horribly for Logan, but OTOH I love watching Aaron who is as hard to look away from as a trainwreck, and Logan-Aaron scenes are my favorites, bitter and brittle as they are. The one problem with it is if Aaron got out, I can't imagine Logan sticking around Neptune for any reason. He'd give a sizable donation and get into Alaska State or whatever, as far as he can get away.

But the best part of last night's ep was the promo Yeah, yeah, evil stalker. Blah, blah deadly surprise. Who cares when we get Logan and Veronica. Talking. At Prom? Yes, I am that shallow and that easy. I am a shipper after all.

To completely switch gears, watched more Saiyuki eps last night. Sanzo's notion of hands-off parenting cracks me up, and I loved Gojyo cruising for women but getting stuck with the little girl and helping her out instead. The fact that Sanzo has a celestial credit card that he tells Hakkai to use because he isn't the one who has to pay it is priceless. I also started on the flashback arc which introduces how the four met, and so far I love it. I love Gojyo and Hakkai's bonding (and how badly was Hakkai wounded if he was unconscious for a week?). And Gojyo fighting Sanzo to protect this guy whose name he doesn't even know. I think he really saw similatrities between him and Hakkai (I love the bit where Hakkai talks about Kanan and he is horrified that he felt no premonition when she was taken aand tortured but was instead playing with his students). And I love Hakkai beating Goku and escaping, but only to complete whatever last thing he had to do, and then he'd come back for whatever punishment. And Gojyo saying that once Hakkai completes his task he will die because that's the kind of person he is to which Sanzo grumpily rejoins that he's been ordered to capture Hakkai so how does Hakkai dare die on his own good time? Heh. Hakkai's utter gentleness and complete deadliness is totally for meeeeeeee, because it's a huge kink of mine. I also love the similarities Sanzo sees between himself as a young boy and Goku, the whole 'why would enlightened Monk so and so take in this urchin?' I love it when he takes Goku with him on his trip. And they do have an explanation why the kid eats this much: he's been starved for years.

Date: 2006-04-19 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] svilleficrecs.livejournal.com
Um.... LJ cut is fucked up... which you'll probably have fixed by the time you get this, but... heads up.

Date: 2006-04-19 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thanks. Yeah, I fixed it. Hate when that happens.

Date: 2006-04-19 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] svilleficrecs.livejournal.com
NP. I always feel kinda "hall monitor"ish when I do that, but I like the heads up when my own get fucked up.

Date: 2006-04-19 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I actually am grateful when people point it out, because sometimes I don't notice right away otherwise.

Date: 2006-04-19 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raelee.livejournal.com
Heh. You see Logan and Veronica talking at prom and I see: Logan in a tux!! ;)

Date: 2006-04-19 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
That just means your priorities are straight :)

Date: 2006-04-19 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
The gold credit card becomes a running joke in the series. At one point the divine messengers get the credit bill and flip out about how much it is. There's another point in the manga where Sanzo loses the card and the Kougaiji group finds it and can't figure out what it is and the last thing you hear is Kou saying "I don't know, just throw it away".

And as I was discussing about Gojyo before, he feels a need to protect people since his upbringing, which is why he and Sanzo really clash. Sanzo won't go out of his way if it doesn't involve him, Gojyo can't help but.

Date: 2006-04-19 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I think this is my favorite icon in all of lj-dom.

At one point the divine messengers get the credit bill and flip out about how much it is

ROFL. Serves them right. If they send people on a quest, might as well pay their bills.

he feels a need to protect people since his upbringing, which is why he and Sanzo really clash. Sanzo won't go out of his way if it doesn't involve him, Gojyo can't help but.

Exactly. After all, he picks up Hakkai, who is a complete stranger in a really bad state, and takes him home to take care of him. If it was Sanzo, he'd probably walk by, mutter "serves the idiot right for not taking a better care of himself" and walk away (though Sanzo does have his softer side. He rescued Goku after all. I think in some ways, Goku reminds him of himself when he was young and he remembers what it felt like to be that way).

Date: 2006-04-19 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
There's also the fact that Goku annoyed Sanzo nearly to death since he kept hearing his voice in his head which is why he went to find him anyway. Though it's a bit of a cop out for Sanzo to just say "you were annoying me so I saved you" since he not only releases him but sort of adopts him too.

I'm not actually sure how much Sanzo knows about Gojyo's past other than what Hakkai tells him since Sanzo seems rather sketchy on that. It would explain why he has no patience with Gojyo when he has quite a bit with Hakkai (of course part of that is just Hakkai). Sanzo and Gojyo are just oil and water which is why Sanzo flares out so violently at him sometimes.

Date: 2006-04-19 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Sanzo and Gojyo are just oil and water which is why Sanzo flares out so violently at him sometimes.

I think it's because Sanzo prefers calm and quiet and Gojyo is anything but. With Goku, he can put up with it, because Goku is a kid, and also if there is anyone for whom Sanzo feels genuine love for, it's Goku. I do wonder if Sanzo's attitude would change if he knew the backstory. I don't think he dslikes Gojyo (not anymore than he dislikes everyone in general) but being cooped up in a car with him isn't number one priority on his list of fun things to do.

I actually think Gojyo is the least damaged of the four (as you said earlier) and the one with the most chance for normalcy. Which is kinda disturbing, since on most other shows he'd be the fucked up one.

Date: 2006-04-19 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kpup.livejournal.com
"Last summer, I made this townie girl moan WITHOUT using my hands."

It's even better when you get the without in there. ha ha

Date: 2006-04-19 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Indeed. Corrected :)

Date: 2006-04-19 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smoo-nyc.livejournal.com
Saiyuki rules the world!!

Date: 2006-04-19 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yes it does. Icon!!!!! I've discovered it ver recently and been gushing about it ever since.

Date: 2006-04-19 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smoo-nyc.livejournal.com
Seriously -- my friend [livejournal.com profile] nutnatz is big into anime and introduced me to Saiyuki (and that's only the first season!) last year. I haven't watched it in awhile since I don't own it (yet) but I'll probably be able to buy it sometime in May.

I can't wait! I'm also waiting to see last night's VM b/c my station (UPN 9 in NY) preempted for..BASKETBALL! Bleh.

Date: 2006-04-19 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yeah, I only have first season also. It's 50 eps, so it will take me a while to work through it though.

Last night's VM was very good.

Date: 2006-04-19 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smoo-nyc.livejournal.com
Yeah -- It kept confusing me because I hadn't seen Seasons that long in awhile for anime. The ones I've been watching recently have been fairly short (13 eps).

Do you watch any other anime series?

Yay! I'm all excited for VM now. :)

Date: 2006-04-19 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Do you watch any other anime series?


Yup, a bunch. Trigun, Escaflowne, Hana Yori Dango, Peach Girl, Peacemaker Kurogane, Escaflowne, Fushigi Yuugi, Ayashi No Ceres, Cowboy Beebop, Rurouni Kenshin, Full Metal Panic, RahXephon, Last Exile (not my thing), Marmalade Boy (didn't like it) are the ones I've seen, in addition to Saiyuki. I also have GetBackers, Generator Gawl, Orphen and Slayers in a pile ready to be watched.

Date: 2006-04-19 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fortunate-acdnt.livejournal.com
the preview, logans bowtie is unhooked *drools* he is so adorable, and he has grown his hair out, and yay! l/v are talking! i cant wait...

btw i strolled here from [livejournal.com profile] veronica_mars *waves*

Date: 2006-04-19 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Icon!

I can't wait either. They look adorable.

Date: 2006-04-19 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fortunate-acdnt.livejournal.com
lol, i havent posted them yet, but i will when i get the chance.

*claps and bounces* its going to be awesome!

Date: 2006-04-19 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekatebeyond.livejournal.com
I thought the best part of Weevil saving his former gang was his still saying, "You're on your own." It didn't come off like Weevil has suddenly realized gangs = bad (thank goodness, because I don't think we need any preaching to realize that), but more like Weevil forgives but he doesn't forget. It was sort of a Clint Eastwood moment. He did what he had to do, but it wasn't out of any emotional need to regain acceptance, it was just because he was the man who could put a stop to it.

The DH's eyerolling quota for the week was reached over how squeeful I was about the preview. I am ridiculously excited for the next episode.

Date: 2006-04-19 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yes. He saved the gang, but he has no interest in being its leader. Not because gangs are bad, but because they didn't have loyalty to him.

Date: 2006-04-19 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amybeckett.livejournal.com
Has anyone considered Logan might have been cheating on Veronica last summer and that was the townie girl? Because I could totally see her throwing the one liner back in his face later if that was the case.

Date: 2006-04-19 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I can't really imagine Logan cheating. He was crazy about Veronica and he strikes me as a pretty shmoopy (too much so) boyfriend.

Date: 2006-04-19 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amybeckett.livejournal.com
he did it to Lilly when she pissed him off

Date: 2006-04-19 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
But Lilly and Logan had a turbulent on-and-off relationship (and kissing someone at a public party is a long way from the heavy petting that comment of Logan's implies). We had no indication that prior to the break-up, Veronica was anything but a supportive girlfriend.

Is it possible? It's VM so anything is possible. But I can't imagine them doing it.

Date: 2006-04-19 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amybeckett.livejournal.com
My nickname for this season is "How to destroy all your male leads' sweetness in one season" It seems RT is trying to make every male untrustworthy and bordering on unlikeable by the end of the season.

Duncan - BABY! Baby that isn't his issue, that won't effect him and Veronica. That's just sleezy.

Logan - Highly implied arsonist who may have slept with Hannah, and used her either way.

Weevil - Caused a murder (Thumper), nearly commited one himself (Curly)

Wallace - Abandon everyone for a decent chunk of time, damn near two timed Jane, and is still oozing player vibes with Jackie

Cassidy - Something's shady about the buisness, he was an ass to Mac

Leo - stealing MAJOR evidence

Keith - threatened Aarron, stole evidence, is interfearing with a police investigation, broke into Kendall's house (granted he's not as bad as the others, but he had shiny armor last season)

I think Dick & Felix are the only 2 characters who haven't had a smear campaign waged Dick because he was just as bad before and Felix has partial redeption if anyhthing (Molly, trucking, family, ect)

So basicly I wouldn't put it past them in the slightest. I refuse to follow any arguments that that would be against someone's character, or they're too good for that, because RT has been destroying thier reps since the begining of the season.

Date: 2006-04-19 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danceswithwords.livejournal.com
Also, problems with Jackie going to Sorbonne: if the family assets are frozen, what is she going to pay for it with?

That bugged me too. It could be that Jackie's just trying to find a graceful way of exiting Neptune without her tail between her legs, or it could be crap writing. I guess we'll see.

How about his abusive, murderer, videotaper of sex with Logan's gf father getting off? It looks likely, after all, with that statuette business.

I could see that happening. And I think it would be particularly awful if Aaron, by planting the hair on the statuette, introduces doubt not only in a jury's mind but in Logan's. Aaron is totally manipulative enough to throw Duncan under the bus not just to get out of jail but to try to reestablish a relationship with his son. Angst-o-rama.

Date: 2006-04-19 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
It could be that Jackie's just trying to find a graceful way of exiting Neptune without her tail between her legs, or it could be crap writing

I really hope it's the former. Or maybe her mother has money and so she could pay for stuff this way (but then why does she need the waitressing job? Why not wire mommy for cash?)

And I think it would be particularly awful if Aaron, by planting the hair on the statuette, introduces doubt not only in a jury's mind but in Logan's

Oh, God. I didn't even think about it. That would be beyond horrible. Not like it would make Logan feel much better about his father: he watched the tapes of Lilly and Aaron (in a scene that I still think is by far the saddest VM scene this season). But it would also completely ruin any semblance of not being messed up about his former best friend. Ohhhh. I really hope that at least Logan and Veronica know for sure and aren't swayed about Aaron murdering Lilly. Because otherwise they'd never be free of doubt, and would just have so MUCH unclosed business. The sick expression on Veronica's face when she saw that report is just the start.

Date: 2006-04-19 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genova.livejournal.com
I really suspect Aaron will get off, because it would fit into the idea that Veronica's world is unfair and the corrupted aren't always punished. I totally believe that Aaron killed Lilly, but it was nice to see Veronica's conflicted reaction to Keith when he mentioned the hair, because Duncan was flawed, too. A murderer, though? Unlikely, considering Rob likes Duncan and would never make it about his being an evil schemer that wanted his sister dead; it would've been something he didn't remember doing, which thematically would be disappointing, since it's noir. I think it'd be cool if Rob did end up leaving it a little open-ended, because Veronica and Logan (and Keith, and whoever else) would still believe/know that it was Aaron.

The only thing that bothered me about the promo is that Logan's hair is crazy long. It's like, prom! L/V! potential! but also, what were you thinking with that hair, Logan?

I'm about to cry.....

Date: 2006-04-19 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goddess09807.livejournal.com
V Mars got pre-empted on my station for a basketball game ..............that had already been aired!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Why do these things happen to me? And to top it off they no longer do reruns on sunday. I hope they show it again tonight.

Re: I'm about to cry.....

Date: 2006-04-19 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
They are repeating it today :)

Date: 2006-04-19 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julia-thorne13.livejournal.com
where can one watch next week's promo?

Date: 2006-04-19 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
No idea. UPN webcite maybe? I just watched it with the ep.

Date: 2006-04-23 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmicviolet.livejournal.com
The promo does look great, but you know what I noticed first, more than Logan wearing a tux? He's looking a bit scruffy, like he has a moustache or something (can't really tell that well). But it's cute. It suits him.

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