Faith - episode 16
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I realize that with Faith, I entered into this rare territory where my love for a drama is utterly irrational, where it transcends any story, acting etc and hits me on a purely visceral level, right into the nerve endings. I never know when it will happen and it happens very rarely - I get enthusiastic about dramas very often, but it's a rare one that slips into my bloodstream. I've been having dreams about Faith, I think about it in the most random times, I fantasize about what Choi Young and Eun Soo are doing right now (down, those with gutter minds :P). It's kinda crazy, but then all the best obsessions are.
(Episode 16 caps and thoughts)
Yeah, DH, congrats, you managed to keep your tiger on a leash for what - 4 days? Good luck not dying shortly. I love that CY calls DH's bluff but he is so terrified inside as you can see him drop the facade when he knows nobody is looking. But then what choice does he have?
Woodalchi fighting, outnumbered, made me cry. I swear, I am overinvested in this drama. And oh, Gongmin, so worried for Nogook and brave and awesome and angry.
When Choi Young appeared, to disperse the soldiers attacking Nogook, like some sort of an avenging God (yes, Faith makes me break out in purple prose), I literally cheered. And then when he grabbed Nogook's hand and cut through the soldiers like so much grass - clearly there is some major issues in my background, because I found it sexy beyond words.
This was a great scene and showed that Advisor threw away someone amazing like Gongmin for DH, who is a sociopath, but I confess my main thought during this sequence was "well, now you know what it feels like to be stabbed through the gut. Oops!"
I love the way she smiles when she sees him with the Woodalchi all around him like puppies. They are totally the Wooodalchi Mom and Dad. Only Dad is way jealous - the way he bites his lip when she starts checking out DM's wounds, LOL - and poor DM looking apprehensively at his General, knowing he's in trouble :) Someone doesn't like his woman getting touchy with other guys :P Also, her teasing of him is priceless.
She totally wants the diary because she is worried by her dreams of him dying and wants to save him. I am willing to bet. And I love that she doesn't want to tell him about her nightmares because she doesn't want to worry him and his overdeveloped sense of responsibility. Love that he doesn't want her to meet DH or Gi Chul and then is about to leave but comes back and is totally "are you going to go meet them anyway?" He knows her so well (and of course, by now she always gets what she wants from him, doesn't she - including the meeting, because he knows otherwise she'll go alone). And they've both retreated back in their shell now that she is better but every glance betrays them. And when she takes a 'picture' of him when he is being his most Choi Young-ish (talking about strategy and King etc) and his uncomprehending look - my heart broke.
Bromance is back!
This scene! So incredible on every level. Of course I've already rewatched it twice. The way she wins the argument about going to see the bad guys (of course), the way he freaks out when she is in pain (and the way he holds her shoulder - he can't help but touch her now, can he?) but she is so brave and matter-of-fact and shuts him down when he tries to blame himself for it yet again (not everything in the world is your fault, Choi Young! Though claiming responsibility is one way of finding control - a dysfunctional way, but still...) The way he gets angry (because that's the only way he can express his terror at her pain and possibly dying) and the gentle, loving way she tells him he shouldn't or it would become a habit and what would he then do if she leaves, who would he get angry at (and it's so true - he is so enormously repressed except for her - but with her he is not a legend or a warrior but a man). The way they sit and she says she is cold so he opens up his arm and she scoots in, and the way they fold into each other, almost. The way he says he won't go to heaven (why?! grrrr! I get it, I do, but think of my heart) and the way she asks for a piggyback if she falls asleep and he half-whispers in response that he can't because how would he carry his sword otherwise (hello there, symbolism! Also, if this isn't a piggyback foreshadowing, I don't want to know. And another also, you left the sword for her before, Choi Young). The way they are so tender and their faces are so unguarded - she in particular looks luminous. The way she points out he now answers all her questions, not like before. Why are you so perfect together, why?
And of course he takes her to Gi Chul. Because he has come a long way from a man who tried to stop her and now knows she should do what she must and all he can do is come with her to the lion's den and protect her. What really gets me is the way once her hands cramp up, he instantly drops on his knees, and starts rubbing her hands with his own - without any thought for Gi Chul (whose eyes bug out of his head, I think), without any concealment or hesitation. Also, with DH being so awful, I am almost fond of Gi Chul now (who thinks he can go to the future with Eun Soo. Sure, except he doesn't know it might be hard to come back...have fun applying for social services, Gi Chul!)
Gongmin and Nogook and the way he shines when he sees her! OMG you darlings! Also, did anybody else's mind jump straight into the gutter when he asked her for a tour and she said she will show him their quarters :)
(Apologies, I switched to 450p here due to issues with my 720)
If there is a sight more glorious than Choi Young getting impatient with DH stalling about the antidote, deciding "fuck it," knocking out the royal guards and pouring poison down DH's throat (with some bonus manhandling), while telling Gi Chul he's never used poison before so he doesn't know whether he gave too much oops, I have yet to see it. I am a sick sick girl but I rewatched this multiple times. Also, Gi Chul (who I enjoy when he is a reluctant allies) makes the best faces.
DH and ES talk blah blah blah (Dude, you tried to poison her, she is not joining you), but all that registered was that DH referred to CY as "your lover" and ES didn't even bother to deny. Heeee. Faith, where even the bad guys are shippers!
But who could blame them. See touchy-grabby Exhibit A.
DH, either you really are brainless, hate CY to care about consequences or a combo of the two. Him telling Gi Chul that they have to kill CY or else ES will never come to them is insane! Sure, she'll help you guys after you kill her OTP! That's how normal people work! Oh wait - no.
Gongmin and Nogook with the people. Makes me think of Saint Louis and the oak tree.
Awww, poor CY - ES stayed in the med center to ferret out information (and, I bet, to make sure DH did not hurt CY). He is all 'she has no heart.' You are suuuuuch a goner, CY!
She gets her missing pages (well, half) and he is getting ready to escort ministers (who have a frelling nerve to ask that after they falsely convicted him!)
This scene! OMG! I simply have to quote the dialogue verbatim (courtesy of viki) because - I have no words.
"This... I should say this before I become drunk, but...for me... there isn't a "that person", really. Even though I tried to meet men, and tried to like them, my heart never opened. Even if my heart was going to go out...it would stop...and stop...and it'll be lost again. "It's annoying." And then... (my heart would) close again and hide. That kind of feeling was always first. "That person isn't it." "This isn't it." Even meeting that person, Choi Young, it was like that. I would draw a line someday and say, "Don't come in. Don't come in..." That...it isn't because I am someone who would leave someday, Doctor Jang. It's just...my heart wouldn't do that. When I'm with him, sometimes...I get too used to it...and miss him so much that I can't take it. I had those feelings, but..."That kind of person... this person can't be it." However...whenever I turn around, he is there. Looking at me. Even if I can't see him, if I ask "where are you", he would say "I am always here". I must be drunk...I should sleep."
Crying here, guys. I also love that, for once, it is the woman in a kdrama that has issues fully opening up emotionally, that has shut her heart, that needs to work through it (though I think her drunken confession does mean she has had to confront her emotional truth, and the fact that she loves CY, and I am sure whatever she does in the next ep to save his life will seal it. It's been a truth for a while, she just hasn't let herself realize it before). Because for all his manifold issues and his Spartan ethic, there is never any doubt that CY has given his heart over fully - he hasn't told her because he doesn't want to hold her back because he feels guilt and responsibility for bringing her over. But if she told him she loved him and meant to stay, you know he'd fall at her feet. (Or, being Choi Young, probably offer her his sword :P)
Side note - if I was in an even more romantic mood than I am now, I'd make comments how her heart being shut before she met CY is totally a hand of destiny - you couldn't fall for any guy because you were waiting for a 14th century national legend, girl, and didn't want to settle! :)
She realizes that the letter tries to warn her about a trap for Choi Young (yes, he is your 'that person') Big shock, freaking scholars probably betrayed him to DH. I bet that is where her nightmare comes in - she'll run in finding him the way she did in her dream, only hopefully not dead yet. The outfit matches.
Is it Monday yet? I can't believe I am yearning for Monday!
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Date: 2012-10-04 06:33 am (UTC)SUCH a failure at making fic right now.
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Date: 2012-10-04 02:59 pm (UTC)Oh and I am a Campbell so I like your name btw.
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Date: 2012-10-04 03:57 pm (UTC)Actually, I think while he loved Ninja girl, I doubt Choi Young has any real sexual experience or is just too well mannered. The way he avoids his gaze when he saw Eun Soo's naked legs as well as he almost tentatively holds her, he is not used to be very close (physically) in a romantic way with another person.
Ah .. City Hunter fic???? Yes please!!! Anything to fix my YS/Na Na craving :)
I'm a MacDougall from my great-grandmother's site.
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Date: 2012-10-04 05:47 pm (UTC)Again I got CH fic on LJ, but YS just always looked at NN as to good, and that is where his problem was (maybe it is some of the problem for CY too) dang LMH causing all these problems. I think I will blame him...cause it is obvious he would give a damn. Obviously.
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Date: 2012-10-04 01:41 pm (UTC)Amen. Gutter mind meet one track mind. Lol. In my world they are just the way they are, only friskier than a bunch of bunnies sometimes. Only sometimes.
I love the way she smiles when she sees him with the Woodalchi all around him like puppies. They are totally the Wooodalchi Mom and Dad. Only Dad is way jealous - the way he bites his lip when she starts checking out DM's wounds, LOL -
I just love the parallels with these two. The last time it was CY peeking at ES in the room, when he got his first glimpse of her leg. :P Smiling so softly. And now it's ES's turn! That scene is so sweet. I'm glad that now we get to see another layer of ES's feelings towards CY. :) I don't mind that she's so cautious of her heart, I mean, who wears their hearts on their sleeves these days? But her defenses are gradually disappearing and it's just squee-inducing to catch glimpses. Hee. He actually slams the door when he saw her standing there instead of resting. That cap is just so lovely. (Stared at it for some time. Lol.) It's just that he towers over her and she's just the right height and it's like he wants to shuffle her slowly away from the room and his staring men. Lol. Can he crowd her like this more often and a bit more closer? Ha. It is cute how she teases him about his sleeping. Aww. Married. Lol. Why is DM always the target of CY's wrath? And the way the rest of them all shuffled so she can take care of them? Lol. It's a good thing Uncle pulled him away. It doesn't look good for his men. Hee.
She totally wants the diary because she is worried by her dreams of him dying and wants to save him.
Yes, yes. And it's really driving her crazy and she wants to know for sure that it's just a dream. The unshed tears. She needs it to be just a dream. I think we all need it to be just a dream. It's that sweet awkwardness between them again. When ES asked him to sit down and she said she won't ask to lean on him again, I was like why?? Ask him again, please. And when she asked him if he asked about the half part of the diary and he suddenly stood up intending to go back and ask it for her coz he forgot, I was like "Puppy!!" Awww. So sweet. You know that CY still isn't finished with DH. I felt CY was a little hurt when Es wouldn't tell him about her dream (how could she though?) and you know how he is. He always wants to do everything for her. But omg, how cute is it when she aegyo-ed? Aw. But CY didn't seem to notice. Big lug.
when she takes a 'picture' of him when he is being his most Choi Young-ish (talking about strategy and King etc) and his uncomprehending look - my heart broke.
My heart literally hurt right then. It's so heartbreaking. The way she was just gazing at him. That picture. A small memento. I can't take it. Before I entertained the thought that maybe if she can find a way to charge her phone (yeah, crazy) they can take photos before she goes back to her world, but then again, I vehemently refuse to believe that they won't be together in the end. :(
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Date: 2012-10-04 11:29 pm (UTC)That is true, the drama is so good at parallels - just like she brought him back to life earlier and now he does the same to her. And I love that he managed to get through her well-kept emotional defenses without trying - simply by being loving and loyal and always there for her and never expecting anything, but just loving her and protecting her with all his might.
Poor DM. It was hilarious how he kept glancing apprehensively at his general. LOLOLOL - our CY is pretty possessive - remember the thing with her shorts? :)
I love their sweet awkwardness as you put it - he was so handly and touchy with her when she was sick and now, try as they might, they can't put that genie back in the bottle. I think by now they are simply addicted to each other's touch.
OMG, I totally forgot to mention his whole intent to run right back to DH to ask what he forgot. He is so adorably earnest. I just want to hug him and feed him and lock him in a bedroom with ES.
She can charge her phone off him :)
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Date: 2012-10-05 03:41 am (UTC)Yes, ES will definitely take the lead. How could he not cave in? And also, CY would be a quick study, you know... And frisky bunnies!!
And I love that he managed to get through her well-kept emotional defenses without trying
So true that it goes both ways for them. Someone pointed out that when CY said: "Here's the order..." and started rattling off, before ES took a mental shot of him, it was basically the same way ES spoke to him after she stabbed him and he was telling her to go and leave him behind but she's all: "Shut up. Here's the order..." And also when they were going to see the little king and CY pointed the place beside him and said "Here.", telling her to sleep close to him. It's like the same thing with ES when they were in CY's room and he was trying to get her to leave and she's all "Here!" so she can tend to his wound. I love little details like that. It's like they're rubbing off on each other. Or they're just made for each other. Lol.
our CY is pretty possessive - remember the thing with her shorts? :)
Hee. I think CY will always be reminded of that as well. That's why he's extra possessive. Lol.
I think by now they are simply addicted to each other's touch.
No gutter mind here, but I love this. It's the little things.
I just want to hug him and feed him and lock him in a bedroom with ES.
Preferably naked? Lol. (No gutter mind didn't last too long.)
She can charge her phone off him :)
I am imagining them in a photobooth. What? Lol.
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Date: 2012-10-06 01:12 am (UTC)I did not realize that. That is awesome!
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Date: 2012-10-04 01:45 pm (UTC)Asdjfdfjhgkl. Yes. Yes. He is just CY to her. I wanted to paste all your words but that might be too much. I love that they're still bickering. And in the end, it's all about still protecting each other. ES is always using lightheartedness as a defense mechanism. The way she can smile when she said she'll get even more dizzy the following day. I can understand CY's frustration, panic, and fear. But I also understand that she acts that way so CY won't beat himself up too much. She can take it; he just needs to stop blaming himself. And when she uses the softest voice asking him to stop coz getting angry at her is becoming a habit... It's her way of trying to ground both of them, herself mainly, to reality that she is leaving. So downplaying the seriousness and the feelings involved, it's just so her.But CY's look. Once again "Puppy!" You two! :(
I love that he makes the first move! Hee. Who would have thought? And it's just so natural the way like you said they fold into each other almost. Wah. And his terse replies to everything she says. Hee. They are so boyfriendy-girlfriendy. Married! "I'm not going." (WHAT? I rage. Lol. But CY, surely, you can change your mind. But the way he said it, and his expression, it's like that's that. You can't do anything about it. It's like he's reminding himself, too.) "Stop talking." I especially liked, "Do you know?" "I don't want to know." Hee. He's like a sulking kid who is still sore coz of what she said earlier to him. And when she pointed out that he answers everything she says to him now, unlike before where he mainly ignores her. Awww. It's so true. And he's like uh-oh. Lol. And his flimsy excuse. Ha. When ES closed her eyes and said that leaning on him feels so familiar? That's when things went all teary for me. Why are they perfect? Coz they just are. Wails. And the way she nuzzles into him and her smile. Her sweet smile just kills me! It's like she's found her place too. :(
he half-whispers in response that he can't because how would he carry his sword otherwise
I know it's such an overused drama trope but piggyback would be sweet. I just want more skinship!! Anyways, some say it could be interpreted as saying that he doesn't want her falling asleep coz sleeping = bad. Like, there is that fear that she may never wake up again. So, it's his CY way of saying, I don't want you falling asleep, stay with me. Following this interpretation, it can also mean he won't have the will to pick up his sword again = he won't have the will to live again. :( It's crazy how I try to analyze everything even though they don't make anymore sense. Lol. But then again, if he did "carry" ES without holding anything back, he may never be able to let her go again. And that's not such a bad thing, right? But his duty. Sigh. Can we get more cuddling? It's just so sweet.
What really gets me is the way once her hands cramp up, he instantly drops on his knees, and starts rubbing her hands with his own
Yesyesyes. I loooove that. It just comes naturally now. The way he hovers over her. Gah. So so good!
It's weird how it's kinda cute how KC is so excited and happy ES finally came to see him on her own.
I was watching with popcorn when CY taught DH a lesson on poisoning. There may have been some cackling involved. And before that, the way Es rushed forward to beat DH up for poisoning her, it shows just how she tries to stay strong in front of CY.
DH referred to CY as "your lover" and ES didn't even bother to deny. Heeee. Faith, where even the bad guys are shippers!
Loool. Suddenly remembered how the second in command Woodalchi said to Lady Choi, that ES and CY are most probably alright because they are together. Loool.
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Date: 2012-10-04 11:33 pm (UTC)I need a piggyback!
The poison lesson was A+++++ I need more. I am pretty sure DH is about to experience a gruesome demise soon.
Yeah, Woodalchi guys are the biggest shippers ever.
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Date: 2012-10-05 03:45 am (UTC)I wonder if there will be some more strong development with regards to their feelings in Episode 17. Or are they going to leave everything in the last episode? :O
I love how she uses humor to cope and how she puzzles him but it's a loving puzzlement.
And I love that it will probably always be the case. :)
I need a piggyback!
Yesyes. But I wonder if the writer or the director are fans of piggybacks. Still remembering the changes the director has made.
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Date: 2012-10-04 01:47 pm (UTC)Omg, it was so sweet when he asked about the medicine. And when he heard she was going to be all healed. Wah. Can he hug her now? Can he?
Is ES really thinking of using feminine wiles as a strategy? Oh, CY, poor puppy. :(
I confess. I cried in that part too. :( Why must they hurt? I know what you say about the woman being the one who's closed off this time. I think for a modern woman that's just what ES would be. And I see some people saying they don't feel ES's in love with CY. I think this confession shows clearly where ES is coming from all this time. ES's show of love is much more different. You can see what the two sides' views on love is. CY's views may be more simple than ES's. He's already realized how deep his feelings are for her, but ES is still trying to repress those feelings. (It's understandable that she is confused that how can a man from the past, a historical figure be the one to awaken all these feelings within her. That's why she's adamant that CY can't be "that person".)
I see more people seeing from CY's point of view that's why they don't get ES. I guess there are more romantics in the world than you would imagine, huh? (Or maybe it's just coz it's LMH. Lol.) Coz they're expecting to see stars shining in ES's eyes whenever she's with CY. But that's what I love, that it's the hardened warrior that falls hard first. Because he would. He's just a simple man, underneath it all.
Side note - if I was in an even more romantic mood than I am now, I'd make comments how her heart being shut before she met CY is totally a hand of destiny - you couldn't fall for any guy because you were waiting for a 14th century national legend, girl, and didn't want to settle! :)
Hee. I buy this! It's totally the case. Lol.
ES must save CY. I'd like for her to be the knight riding to her man's rescue. Although she's already done that. Hmmm.
Mondaaaaay.
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Date: 2012-10-04 11:35 pm (UTC)I totally get ES' point of view - this is how I was until I met Mr Mousie. I think it's a fairly common attitude. But CY, being a man, and a warrior, is a lot straightforward (and yes, as you said, the hardened warrior falls first. And that's perfect).
I totally loved when he freaked out when DH said 'let's go together' because he totally thought DH meant 'let's die together.' And the touchy-feely afterwards.
Oh, I love them so.
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Date: 2012-10-05 03:51 am (UTC)Yes, but when Faith is done, I'd probably hate Mondays even more than before coz no more Faith. I'm scared of the possible withdrawals. Haha. At least there are MVs and fics.
I totally get ES' point of view - this is how I was until I met Mr Mousie. I think it's a fairly common attitude. But CY, being a man, and a warrior, is a lot straightforward (and yes, as you said, the hardened warrior falls first. And that's perfect).
Aww. Yes, it's hard to totally open your heart to someone and let that trust in. Especially coming from our times today. So I totally get ES too.
I totally loved when he freaked out when DH said 'let's go together' because he totally thought DH meant 'let's die together.' And the touchy-feely afterwards.
Oooh, I never thought of it like that. I want more touchy-feely.
It's still not Monday yet.
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Date: 2012-10-04 08:20 pm (UTC)And maybe it is the clothes or fatigue, LMH looks so skinny in the last scene. He head looks so big.
Maybe that is the reason why we do not get our typical Hero-in-shower-or-without-shirt scene yet. Okay...I would take RDH or PL as substitute...no, both :DD.
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Date: 2012-10-06 12:09 am (UTC)The drama is killing me honestly. Through the week, i kept thinking about the time traveling mystery... Well, i think i finally got it, and i made a long post on my theory, but still, we'll never know cause this show is just unpredictable! But well, at least i can put my mind to rest till monday now that i kinda made sense out of the plot.
Totally agree with you, this drama is just different. It's flawed in many ways, but it just creeps into you. I'm so dreading the end of this drama. And i'll miss the couples so much. Eunsoo-Young, Noguk-Gongmin.... How can a show actually have two EXTREMELY lovely couples together?! Now, that's a crime for blinding me! i wanna hug my couples, and take away their pain!
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Date: 2012-10-06 01:15 am (UTC)I read your time-travel theory and it totally makes sense to me - it's a sort of constant Moebius loop. I wonder how many times she's done this already.
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Date: 2012-10-06 02:15 am (UTC)If what i thought is right, i pain for her. Imagine time traveling over and over, falling for the same man over and over again, and making the same decision to relive her life (even though she won't realise it until she figures it out on her own, cause she will not be able to remember), just for Young.... Eunsoo is just lovely. And in the end, he lives till a ripe age of 72, which means she probably traveled way more than anyone can imagine. I love our heroine so much.
Is it monday yet?! :'(