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NG continues to be excellent but also a rather hard watch. It's well-written and acted but, as a viewer, I am finding it hard to muster my enthusiasm for the story whose male lead invokes burning rage in me and a desire to bash him in the head. Song Joong Ki is acting his socks off, and Maru is as fascinating and complex as he is repulsive, but repulsive he is - not to mention morally bankrupt (so is Jae Hee, but that goes without saying).



After that scene in the bar (not to mention the truly appalling scene during the parade where he left just to see how EG would freak out), I have decided that Maru and Jae Hee are both monsters who deserve each other and should play their games forever, as long as they don't inflict themselves on others. I mean, that was - ugh.

















NG is by far the darkest of LKH stories I have seen, mainly because of the vast imbalance of emotional power between Eun Gi and Maru. If you compare this with something like A Love to Kill, which also has a man using a woman for revenge, the difference is stark - not only is the hero of ALTK targeting the woman he wants revenge on, not some innocent bystander (the dramatic thrust of the story is that we, the audience, know he is targeting her wrongly) but, even more importantly, we are aware that despite his best efforts, he's been in love with his target since Day 1 and thus all the horribleness that he is doing isn't just going to rebound on him at some point in the future, but he is actively being self-punished by his very act of vengeance. There is no such balance in NG - sure, Maru feels pity for Eun Gi (and their chemistry is insane) but it's pretty clear he is not in love with his target. I wouldn't say he is in love with Jae Hee any more either (though seeing that he might still want her back, who knows), but whatever his very strong feelings towards the latter are, they are blocking any conscious romantic feeling for the former.

And without Maru having an equal emotional involvement in the relationship with Eun Gi, his using her is pretty much stripped of any tolerability and is exposed as this ugly, unforgivable thing that makes me want to take a shower after every scene (and not a sexy kdrama shower either). When he tells (drunk and sleeping) her that their interactions will all be a dream in her long life (i.e., trying to absolve himself of the guilt for wrecking her life), I seriously felt enough rage to power a small submarine - sure, sure Maru - that is why you are spending your whole life and destroying innocent bystanders in your quest for revenge on (or possibly trying to still get her back? It's very muddled) an ex. Why don't you treat what Jae Hee did to you as a dream? At least she didn't fuck you up on purpose.

This said, every scene between Maru and Eun Gi is riveting precisely because he is self-aware of his wrongdoing and guilt and she is just in love. And the chemistry and the gorgeous cinematography make me want to watch them despite the sane part of my brain. I mean, the whole sequence with drunk Eun Gi pouring out her feelings, and Maru almost not daring to touch her, and the morning scene where she is so luminous (contrast to Jae Hee and her husband and the sterility of that scene) but he is back to his games despite a half-hearted attempt to give up. These are sequences full of incredibly addictive tension. My problem is - I hate Maru. I plain and simple hate him and I am not sure how to deal with a drama like that.















































































































Though maybe my dilemma is moot because Eun Gi finds out at least about his connection to Jae Hee by the end and I am so excited - I hope she gives him some of his own medicine back and wrecks both him and Jae Hee with a wrecking ball the size of Calcutta. But if not, at least she will now be an equal player.













Date: 2012-09-30 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hollyxu.livejournal.com
I love Eun-ki's character so much. She's so fierce that every single day she forces herself to be strong enough for her hellish world, and I really, really want to see her win. I have no idea what everyone's deal is, because we literally are not given any motivating factors (aside from Maru) - why is her dad being a heartless bastard? Why did Jae-hee do a 180 from five years ago?

And you know, a part of me empathizes with Maru, but the moment Jae-hee pointed out that he will break Eun-ki and he acknowledged that, all gloves went off. I hope she has the strength to pull through and conquer everything, and to find the grace to walk away from this in one piece.

Date: 2012-09-30 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
My ideal ending - EG gets her own back at Maru and JH, gets a ton of therapy, runs a company successfully and finds a normal person to marry/have kids with.

I don't even care about what happens to MR or JH.

Date: 2012-09-30 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fishncake.livejournal.com
I want her to end up with the real nice guy = Attorney Park / Jun Ha oppa.

Date: 2012-09-30 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I'd be all for it, but isn't he gay?

Date: 2012-09-30 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fishncake.livejournal.com
Judging from the looks he gave Eun Ki, doubt it.

Date: 2012-10-06 05:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winegums.livejournal.com
she says he is, doesn't mean he is.

(and I could ship it. )

Date: 2012-09-30 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elanatothemax.livejournal.com
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES.

My first real melodrama and WTF?!?? You put it perfectly--it's the "vast imbalance of emotional power" that is truly disturbing. It's also difficult for me to root for Maru because I actually feel like he is still totally in love with Jae Hee. It's a corrupted, twisted love, but his world still revolves around her entirely (by his own admission). And given all the shit she's done to him, it's hard for me to conceive of anything worse that she could possibly do to make that love go away, so I'm having trouble conceptualizing a narrative arc by which he is redeemed/in which he cuts ties with her & frees himself.

Why oh why oh why didn't they make Eun Gi aware from the beginning of Maru's connection with Jae Hee? It would've fit SO PERFECTLY with her character & least then, there would be an even playing field. It'd still be messy, and Maru would still be reprehensible, but at least Eun Gi would have some volition in the ordeal.

And yet I am so utterly captivated by the acting & the directing that I just can't look away.

Date: 2012-09-30 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
As a melodrama lover, I assure you that NG is unusual - normally in a melodrama, the leads are desperately in love.

I agree - he may not think he has any hope of a future with JH but he is too hung on her to move on.

And the amnesia plot is going to irritate me because I don't want her to forget he is using her.

Date: 2012-10-01 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elanatothemax.livejournal.com
For all the squickiness of watching Eun Gi fall into Maru's charismatic death trap, I am actually pretty obsessed with this show.

I'm repelled by Maru, but I can't stop watching, theorizing, guessing, etc. And I am LOVING the moral ambiguity of everyone. I actually find it less frustrating than having a stereotypical villain who I want to whack in the head with a hammer. This way, I get to take turns on who I want to whack!

I have no idea how they'll handle the amnesia plot, but I can't imagine that the writer will just use it as a "reset" button to make Eun Gi fall in love with an emotionally detached Maru again. Right? Because that would be too cruel. Plus, Maru needs to have a character arc, so we can't have him coldly calculating all the way through. Right?!

Here's my crazy fantasy of how things will play out: Jae Hee will off Chairman Seo (maybe with Lawyer Ahn's help), Eun Gi will catch her in the act & confront her, Jae Hee will try to off Eun Gi but fail to finish the job (hence the amnesia). Maru will find out exactly how scary-horrible Jae Hee is (and how much he cares about Eun Gi) and shift from myopically trying to take Jae Hee down, to trying to protect Eun Gi from JH while enacting revenge against JH for the both of them. That way, it won't be that Maru's still hung up on JH, it will be that he wants to protect Eun Gi and that he realizes that he just needs JH out of his (and EG's) life. Plus, we know how Maru gets off on taking care of people, so I think the only way he'll become team Eun Gi is if his protector instinct supercedes his thirst for revenge.

Date: 2012-10-01 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Ooooh, I love your fantasy. I'd love it.

Date: 2012-10-02 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisterjune.livejournal.com
If that fantasy happened it wouldnt really make sense or fit the build up and forshadowing of the story so far. more like what willl happen is Maru cant let go of his past or get over Jae Hee and it'll end up wrecking his life even more and him and jae hee will probably go down in flames together. which would be poetic in a way lol. and Eun Ki will mourn but eventually get over it and go back to being her awesome self. or more like that is what I WANT to happen and what would make the most sense to me. but I dunno what the author has planned at this point, I dont see how the amnesia benefits the plot in any way and I dont see how I'm supposed to by that Maru can really forget this unholy attachment he has to Jae Hee. girlfriend has a vice grip on his soul and he doesnt even realize it. (altho I think if anyone can make Jae Hee falter its him. but I rather question how committed he is to revenge when he freaks out when she throws herself in the ocean and looks so concerned when she limps out of the bar. also his look of distress when he realizes Jae Hee's abusive brother is going after her. like he's shown more worry over her than he has Eun ki who adores him. but honestly it makes sense to me because in what way is Eun ki any different from the women he's used in the past? maybe she's more innocent but from his perspective thats it. I dont see why her blind adoration would move him in any way tbh.) whereas he has a deep history with Jae Hee, he literally spent his entire life being in love with her, worrying about her, taking care of her. Plus that letter he wrote her, the line "my life began with noona it will end with her too" very chilling when used in the context of the present. and fits what he said earlier about the jackal chasing the coyote right off the cliff and dying together. I dunno Maru to me falling in love with Eun Ki, getting "redeemed" and going on to have a life with her would just piss me off tbh and feel false as hell. him dying for her or because of her wouldnt make sense either. But it would be weird if Maru and Jae Hee just play mindgames for all 16 eps while Eun Ki pines and cries in a corner. So I hope she'll wise up now and up her game and try to take them both out. and Then we'll have the world's most bizarre love triangle where no one actually likes each other but cant escape the web of hate and obsession and revenge they've driven themselves into. tragic but oh so entertaining hehehe.
Edited Date: 2012-10-02 02:39 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-02 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elanatothemax.livejournal.com
"and then we'll have the world's most bizarre love triangle where no one actually likes each other but cant escape the web of hate and obsession and revenge they've driven themselves into."

LOL!!

I, too, have no idea how it will all play out but since I have no interest in spending the next 14 episodes watching Maru and Jae Hee destroy each other, I'm hoping that we get a redemption arc from Maru. I'm just a sucker for redemption arcs (and for not hating the lead character for the full 20-hour story). :)

I will say, I disagree that nothing in the show has foreshadowed a Eun Gi/Maru ship. Yes, it seems impossible now b/c Maru is so clearly NOT in love with Eun Gi (or even close to falling for her, I'd say), but a lot of production elements have made me think that they're the end game. For example, there are a lot of visually paralleled solo shots of Eun Gi and Maru outside in green, natural spaces. Even their costumes tend to be in very basic, neutral earth tones. Whereas Jae Hee is often confined to oppressive, dark spaces and often wears bright, loud clothes and shoes, Maru & Eun Gi are visually linked. I also think that Maru and Eun Gi complement each other really well (when Maru's not being a sinister bastard). Maru has this inborn compulsion to take care of other people, which is a quality that was taken advantage of by basically everyone around him. He was able to shut it off by keeping all women at an arm's length as a gigolo, but now that Eun Gi has entered his life, I don't think it will be so easy for him to maintain that "professional" distance. I also think that she's just about the only person who won't take advantage of his kindness, if he ever does step out of the self-imposed hell that his obsession with Jae Hee has confined him to. I guess I don't feel the need to see him suffer as much as a lot of people do, I just need to see him WAKE THE FUCK UP and get over Jae Hee already. And, ok, maybe suffer a little in the process. And if he doesn't at least start to come to his senses in this week's episodes, then drama and I will seriously have words.

Date: 2012-10-02 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisterjune.livejournal.com
I think the writer does intend Maru to form some kind of attachment to Eun Ki at one point and maybe even fall in love but i guess I dont really know how she's going to pull that off at this point? like if it happens will it be remotely believable when u take into account his behavior in the past six eps? he'd have to change drastically as a person to be someone who is capable of moving past Jae hee and loving someone else. and I dunno, I dont hate Maru but does he deserve to be loved back by Eun Ki after what he did to her? not unlike what Jae Hee did to him? and I mean I think Jae Hee DID (and part of her still does) love Maru in the past but Maru obviously doesnt love Eun Ki. thus this is even worse. Even Jae Hee told him what he's doing to Eun Ki is worse than anything she has done to Eun Ki so far and she's right. Considering they are both fucking up Eun Ki's life, it doesnt seem fair to me that she forgive Maru and love him while still despising Jae Hee and actively plotting her downfall. likewise does Maru deserve to succeed in his revenge against Jae hee and then go on and live well after he sunk so low to do it? Thats why I cant really board on the redemption or eun ki/maru train right now. and IMO if Maru gets to be redeemed then Jae hee deserves it on some level too. otherwise they should both go down in flames. I dont want this drama to give me a case of moral dissonance where Maru is forgiven all his sins because hes the protagonist and a dude while Jae Hee gets sent down the river. ofc we're still early in the drama. alot can change in 14 eps so we'll see if I either change my mind or have to abandon ship and stop watching lol. (I dunno people want him to get over Jae hee but uh he loved and obsessed over her for the majority of his life. is he supposed to forget her in a matter of days or weeks just because Eun Ki has appeared in his life now? i dont think so)

Date: 2012-09-30 05:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gwinna
First of all, I'm surprised so many people seem to think Maru still wants to get back together with Jae Hee, because I genuinely think that's out of the question for him. True, he still loves and can't forget the person who Jae Hee used to be, but it is also painfully clear to him that she is not that person anymore, and he hates the person she has become (which is rather hypocritical of him, but whatever). That's exactly why he's so miserable, and it's why he's willing to destroy himself in the process of destroying her, because no matter what happens in the future, she's already irrevocably lost to him. So, like in the story of the jackal and the coyote or whatever, he plans on going over the cliff with her. It's an extremely unhealthy mindset, of course, but not unrealistic. Since she was important enough to him that he would sacrifice his life for her back then, it's not surprising that his grudge against her is more important to him than his life now. But he's definitely not envisioning any HEAs with her or anything. There's just no way.

Regarding Eun Gi, I'm also really glad that she's found out the truth, because it hurt to watch her so in love with someone who was just using her. I can't wait to find out what she'll do now that she knows – whether she'll confront Maru, or play along for her own purposes the way some people thought she was doing already. While a part of me wants her to take revenge on Maru for what he did to her, just because I want to see Maru suffer, I don't want her to become all bitter, vengeful and self-destructive like him. I'd rather see her rise above everything and be all “I'm Seo Eun Gi, I'm not going to let these jerks ruin my life.”

On the plus side, I've seen a lot more “I hate Maru” comments than “I'll forgive Maru anything because SJK is hot” comments, so at least the drama is doing a good job of showing everybody how horrible Maru's actions are.

Date: 2012-09-30 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elanatothemax.livejournal.com
Oh, I don't think that Maru wants to get back together with Jae Hee, but I do still think he's painfully head-over-heels in love with her--or at least the idea of what she used to be (though of course, he can't tell the difference right now). It's like he has to justify the sacrifice he made for her by reconciling the past Jae Hee with the present Jae Hee, and there is such a disconnect between the two that he would rather throw his life away than accept that the Jae Hee he once knew, for whom he sacrificed so much, is gone.

I agree about Eun Gi, I can't wait to find out what she does with this information.

Date: 2012-09-30 11:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I don't think anyone thinks even Maru is deluded enough to hope for a HEA with JH but it's clear he cannot move on and does not see a JH-free life in his future.

I hope EG gets her own back, but I am very worried by the teeth-grinding amnesia promise - I don't want her to forget he is a sociopathic user and for us to have to watch her fall for his act all over again.

I think the reason 'hate' comments are there is, in large part, because even the most deluded fangirl can't excuse this with 'but oppa still loves her' because he doesn't.

Date: 2012-10-01 01:07 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just jumping in here to say that Maru is definitely not sociopathic, which is really sa non-treatable condition, and I think the drama was at some pains to set him up as a normally functioning, caring human being before the tragedy of Jae Hee's life swept him up. She, however, is displaying many symptoms of actually being sociopathic I think.

Date: 2012-10-01 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
He's not a sociopath, true, because he can recognize what he is doing is wrong (and feels it's wrong) but he is acting like one. If that makes sense.

I am in awe of SJK's acting and Maru is incredibly fascinating, but I confess that I hate his guts so am kinda biased.

Date: 2012-10-02 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisterjune.livejournal.com
she's not a sociopath. sociopath's dont feel fear or regret or guilt or empathy. thats what makes them so terrifying. Jae Hee has felt all of these things. and If she was a sociopath trust she could be way worse than she is now. she could gaslight Eun Ki into insanity and considering Eun Ki's issues it would be easy for her I think. Surprised she hasnt tried it yet lol. (among other more evil things like poisoning people, firing people not loyal to or suspicious of her, using her child as leverage or to dissuade Maru from revenge by either telling him the kid is his and doesnt he want that kid to live well in the lap of luxury with his mommy? etc etc actually surprised she hasnt tried that tactic either. girlfriend needs to up her game methinks. lol)

Date: 2012-10-02 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com


She can't tell him the kid is his because that kid would have to be at least five and a half and, as a mother of a toddler, trust me, that kid is way younger than that. So unless she thinks in addition to his emotional issues Maru can't add, she is better off not trying.

eTA in response to your other point about how Maru could ever fall for EK - if you watch eps 5-6, you can see the possibility - she shakes him the way he is not normally shaken. Doesn't stop me from thinking he is a horrible person who shouldn't get a HEA with her. He and Jae He are equally monsters and should both get comeuppance.
Edited Date: 2012-10-02 02:54 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-02 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisterjune.livejournal.com
I did watch those eps. I saw ep 6 finally today. and Honestly I didnt see him being moved by her at all? I mean, there was plenty of scenes where I was waiting for a spark or for SOMETHING and it didnt come. Maybe I'm just blind, but I dont think Maru gives a fig about Eun Ki at this point. she is simply the means to an end. I mean the way he was looking directly at Jae Hee when he was telling Eun Ki he "loved" her. He was thinking about Jae Hee when he was kissing her at the beginning of ep 6. and he was remembering the letter he wrote to her while he was holding Eun Ki's hands. Like....is there even room in his twisted heart right now for ANY woman let alone Eun Ki? let us not forget he abandoned his own sister to run to her aid. the dude just seems far gone. I mean I dont think he was being hypothetical when he answered lawyer ahn's allegory about the jackal chasing the coyote and saying the jackal would go off the cliff still biting the coyote's tail. basically Maru is willing to destroy himself, throw himself off a cliff both metaphorically and I think literally too just to mess with Jae Hee. and tbh I dont even think its just anger at what she did to him. at first I thought it was but this seems more about him getting under her skin and leaving an impression. making it impossible for her to move on with her life past him, the way he's been unable to forget her long after he knew she had abandoned him. also p much on every occasion Maru showed any actual emotions and was broken out of his zombie like state it was in relation to Jae Hee somehow. I know that Eun Ki would be the better choice for him for living a happy healthy life but is he even capable of being happy and well adjusted at this point? does he WANT to be even? I've heard commenters talking about how Eun Ki should teach Maru how to love and heal his wounded soul or something and frankly YUCK to that. It's not her duty to fix his issues and frankly she's gonna need her own healing once she realizes the extent of Maru's douchebaggery. So yeah if this writer's intention was for Maru to fall in love with Eun Ki she's kind of shot herself in the foot in regards to that with the way she's set things up so far. (plus Eun Ki imo would be damn stupid to forgive Maru for what he pulled and it would be wildly OOC for her too)

Date: 2012-10-02 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisterjune.livejournal.com
i was joking about the kid thing, rather it was prompted by fangirls theorizing that eun suk might be maru's kid. which i dont think is the case but boy that wuld be a doozy if it was true lol. and I have no idea how old the child is tbh. I cant tell. I was gonna say maybe there was conjugal visits at the jail but u can only have those if you're married lol.

Date: 2012-09-30 09:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleobulle.livejournal.com
And without Maru having an equal emotional involvement in the relationship with Eun Gi, his using her is pretty much stripped of any tolerability and is exposed as this ugly, unforgivable thing that makes me want to take a shower after every scene (and not a sexy kdrama shower either).

And here you have in a nutshell the real reason I'm not watching NG.

I would have been wary of starting a drama that almost promises to end badly from the get go but I'm sure I would still have caved in at some point. But the fact that I know I would loathe Maru as a character guarantees I'll save myself the heartache. The only reason I could stomach and even enjoy A love to kill was because the hero was actually in love with the heroine and knew he was pretty much destroying himself as well as her. Here we have no such thing and, as you said, it must be painful to watch, great acting notwithstanding.

Date: 2012-09-30 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yeah, I am this close to putting it aside until she wises up and gets her own revenge because it's not a fun watching experience when I want to brain the male lead.

Date: 2012-09-30 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wayfares.livejournal.com
I shudder to think about the amnesia subplot coming up. What if they erase all of the horrible things Maru is using Eun-ki for and makes her think that he's her prince charming once again? UGH, NO. On the other side, I find Joon-ha's concern for Eun-ki very sweet. He's probably the only person using his wits properly right now.

Date: 2012-09-30 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
That is my fear. That she will forget Maru is a user and fall for him again, and we'll get more 'Maru feels bad but still acts like a sociopath and EG is clueless' and I will NOT be happy. I want Maru incinerated! I mean, I am Team Jae Hee after the latest eps, merely because I want Maru destroyed.

Date: 2012-09-30 10:46 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I want the amnesia subplot to happen soon. The way I want it to happen is for EG to get into an accident while trying to save Maru then he'd realize how real her feelings are for him and realize how much of an arse and a monster he's become because of a useless piece of crap aka JH. But then it would be too late. EG would forget about her feelings. Joon ha would tell her about everything and how Maru has played/used her. She'll turn vengeful on him while he tries to bring EG back from her amnesia. I WANT THIS DRAMA. Teeeeheeeee.

Hagrid here.

Date: 2012-09-30 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
or she will fall in love with him and he'll take this chance to make things work between them but she will regain her memory and hate him for lying to her AGAIN (not telling at first he was just using her only to fall in love later and rgret it)

Date: 2012-09-30 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Ooooh, this sounds great.

The thing I don't want is for her to forget he used her and fall for him all over again. Because more eps of 'in love with a monster' EG I can't stomach.

Date: 2012-09-30 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iviih.livejournal.com
Sooooooooo, since we all hate Maru so much, he all want to see him suffering a lot, no?

It would be nice if in the next episode, Eun Gi asks him what he is doing ? And Maru see how much he hurt Eun Gi by using her, but of course it isn't enough, I want to see Eun Gi saying she'll help Maru to bring down Jae Hee, and Maru and her will get together. And while they are pretending to be a couple, Maru will end up falling in love, but Eun Gi will be cold and show that she is just using him, and Maru will see what he made EG turn like, and maybe will see that he is doing the same Jh did to him in the past, making him feeling guilty for using her, wishing he didn't......... and trying to win her heart but EG won't fall for it and will hurt Maru more and more.

hehehehehehe but then, Eun Gi loses her memory and Maru will take this chance to start things over with Eun Gi, this time he'll try his best to win her heart over but, when they are happy Eun Gi will regain her memory and things will get very ugly for Maru because he didn't lie just once but twice, uh-ho.............


heheheheh and he'll suffer a lot because EG will never trust him again.


It would also be nice if EG goes to laywer and Maru dies of jealousy.


I really see no happy end for Maru.... I just hope he regrets a lot what he is doing now.

And in the end EG will be happy with Laywer who loved her since long time ago. Aw.

Date: 2012-09-30 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I love your plan! Yes! I want him to suffer and suffer and suffer. Forever.

Date: 2012-10-01 01:10 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
But Maru hasn't actually done anything to her at the moment beyond snare her interest and test the bond in a rather unpleasant way as part of his current plan . . . he also actually saved her resort, Don't you think we are all jumping ahead on speculation based on a few hints about what we think is will do to her . . . Might happen. Might not??

Date: 2012-10-01 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Well, even if he disappears into thin air at the end of ep 6, he's still been awful - he's ensnared EG's heart as part of some bizarre revenge plan. If I opened myself up to a man who did his best to woo me only to find out he was using me and as fake as a three-dollar bill, I'd go through major trauma, and I am not Eun Gi, who has a horrible love-deprived, emotionally abused background and trust issues. Every time I see them together, I get pretty creeped out.

Though I fully admit that what really freaks me out is the promise that she is going to get amnesia and he will still keep up his games.

Date: 2012-10-01 01:02 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Greetings - thanks so much for recaps and also for fascinating discussion on this site! So helpful to a non-Korean speaker. Just weighing to say that I don't think that Maru is necessarily evil . . . my take is something like Post Traumatic Stress Disorder triggered by nice guy making an almost-ultimate sacrifice and enduring prison /poverty /family issues only to find the sacrifice was not worth anything and never could have been. I think he is thrown into despair / his whole life is suddenly recast in his own mind as meaningless and that revenge is the only focus he has. And rage the only thing that gets him up in the morning. Otherwise, I suspect, he would never get up again. So - temporary insanity of a kind underpinned by depression. Therefore, making a new human connection is obviously the first step in the bridge that would bring him back as is a safe "place" to acknowledge what happened to him. His humanity is still buried under there somewhere as he is looking after a friend and his sister - if he had thrown them to the wolves, I would hold out no hope for him. But they are responsibilities and not sufficiently nurturing or enough to sustain him as a reasonable person at the moment. It will be interesting to see exactly what could cause him to jump out of his mere-survival / revenge mentality into wanting to live again. Presumably EG but it's a bit hard to see at the moment how that would happen. Unless he redeems her and then does make an ultimate sacrifice - for her this time. Eep.

Date: 2012-10-01 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I can understand why Maru does what he does (I actually even understand why Jae Hee does what she does) but it doesn't excuse his actions. Which all makes for a very interesting narrative (excellently acted) but a rather hard watch - Maru is an unlikeable person who is doing some nasty things, and he's a protagonist. Other than hoping he gets taken down, emotionally I am not there with him.

Date: 2012-10-01 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vert-gazon.livejournal.com
Eun-Gi is the best part of the drama so of course I need to see Maru get his comeuppance. I'm not sure if he can be redeemed at this point but I feel so sorry for Eun-Gi who's put her trust in another scumbag that's done her wrong.

Date: 2012-10-01 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yes. I want Maru to be eaten by weasels.

Date: 2012-10-01 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladysaotome.livejournal.com
What's worse is Eun-ki would have probably willingly helped him if he'd been up front with her instead of used her like he is. Now I'm waiting for the weird amnesia thing from the synopsis. How is that going to come in to play?

Date: 2012-10-01 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Exactly.

I am not looking forward to the amnesia thing.
Edited Date: 2012-10-01 11:20 pm (UTC)

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