Date: 2012-09-10 04:23 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
No doubt it's Yoon Jae. She never accepted Tae Woong's ring but kept Yoon Jae's.

Date: 2012-09-10 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yes please let it be so!

Date: 2012-09-10 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladysaotome.livejournal.com
Agreed. End game is definitely Yoon Jae. I'm betting anything Tae Woong was on the phone with doctor lady. (& I'm in the creepy camp. I don't love the fact he's older but I really dislike that he was engaged to her sister.)

Date: 2012-09-10 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
The sister part is a bit off but I'd buy you can fall for two sisters (or even the age thing) if we were given some insight/development but we weren't so I am stuck in the default 'creepy'.

Date: 2012-09-10 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vert-gazon.livejournal.com
The 'break-up' scene between Yoon Jae and Shi Won was so painful to watch that I'm pretty sure I was cringing inside. I don't really mind Tae Woong but Shi Won and Yoon Jae are perfect for each other so he just needs to gtfo. That episode title makes me a bit nervous but hopefully it's in reference to someone else. I really don't think I've shipped a couple so hard in since forever arghh.

Date: 2012-09-10 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I will be so mad if they are not the endgame. Also, last time it didn't work out with SW, he went off without speaking to her for 7 years and even skipped reunions so as not to see her but now he is fine showing up being buddy buddy with her when she married his brother? That sounds insane. I can't see that.

Date: 2012-09-10 05:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smothered-pith.livejournal.com
YJ and SW have to be endgame!!! I will be pisssssed if it's otherwise!
I don't find the age difference creepy in as much as I do the fact that he's after his dead fiance's sister/ his baby brother's best friend. I just don't see them being a happy couple. It would be so unbalanced if they were together.
I like his character otherwise but he's kind of in the way right now! And too "perfect"...

Also I want to see Joon Hee happy!!

Date: 2012-09-10 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
He is way too adult for her - I mean, let's face it, SW is perpetually immature and TW is way too mature - add it on the pile that is already there with sister and age thing and it becomes untenable.

Date: 2012-09-12 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smothered-pith.livejournal.com
Agreed! This is why I think it'd be unbalanced. He's always going to find her immaturity cute but I don't think SW will ever be 100% comfortable with him like she is with YJ.

Plus considering how TW never picked up on the 6 years of SW and YJ never meeting up baffles me a little.

But this drama is brilliant for teasing us even if it drives me up the wall. They genuinely have me worried that they'll pull a fast one on us and make it TW!

Date: 2012-09-10 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weruintooeasy.livejournal.com
I honestly can't see any scenario where she doesn't end up with Yoon Jae. It'd feel like a cop out if she ends up with Tae Woong consider a large majority of the story is about Yoon Jae loving her and her realizing that she feels the same way. What I like about Shi Won (and I love a lot of things about her since I was very similar to how she was in high school although a little less extreme for sure) especially time!skip Shi Won is how direct and honest she is about her feelings. She's stated several times in the last ep that while she likes Tae Woong and cares for him, it's not romantic unlike her feelings for Yoon Jae. To have her fall out of love with Yoon Jae and suddenly be interested in TW when there's 2 eps left would make no sense imo.

Also, I don't mind age differences usually but I do think one of my big problems in being unable to buy into Tae Woong/Shi Won ship is that the character is 27 but the actor who plays him is 36 I think and it shows.

Date: 2012-09-10 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Ah, the age of the actor does add to it, but then I don't think SW's actress is 17/18 either (I don't think?) so hmmm....

I just can't see her switching either - I mean, why would she? She's had enough time to know her own mind romantically and I doubt being YJ;s girlfriend would finally shed light on their incompatibility or something because she knows him and all his flaws (and vice versa) like the back of her hand already.

Date: 2012-09-10 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hanjae.livejournal.com
Nope, Jung Eun Ji isn't 17/18... she's 19! :P She's definitely far too young for 36-year-old Song Jong Ho, hence the creep factor.

Date: 2012-09-11 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yikes, yeah, that's quite a difference. I mean, I wouldn't kick SJH out of bed for eating crackers, but I am 34. Picturing him with a 19-yr-old - not my thing.

The age thing also totally explain why I lol every time I am supposed to believe Eun Ji and SIG are in their early 30s. Sorr, but no :)

Date: 2012-09-11 01:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisterjune.livejournal.com
yep. he's like a creepy uncle fan lol.

Date: 2012-09-10 07:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennyhime.livejournal.com
I'm 99% sure she'll end up with YJ. I think the meaning of the last episode is that she doesn't see YJ as her first love but her one love and a first love for SW was most likely Tony Ahn from HOT ^^
I just can not picture anyone else then YJ being the baby daddy unless they creators decide on a open end for that which I heard was a possibility.
TW and the lady doc might become a item, I don't like the actress they chose for the role but I like the character.
I don't think TW and SW older sister were engaged, they were a couple yes but I don't recall them being engaged.

Date: 2012-09-10 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yes, they were engaged - he asked her and she said yes (when they got their picture drawn).

How can they have an open ending? Shi Won is the next Virgin Mary and her baby was fathered by the Holy Ghost? I mean, someone had to father that baby :)

Date: 2012-09-10 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennyhime.livejournal.com
Ah, I guess I didn't pay attention to that part.
Well I don't get it either but the director said that there is a possibility because apparently they had several endings written down.
But I'm 99% sure that Shi Won and Yoon Jae end up together ^^

Date: 2012-09-10 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hanjae.livejournal.com
Hmm, I don't know, I might pay more attention to Tae Woong if he had Chris Hemsworth's body! ;D

That aside, I'm shipping her madly with Yoon Jae. If it doesn't end that way, I'm going to go ballistic on those writers. That episode title and the whole "realistic" youth story thing makes me nervous, though. Honestly, Tae Woong needs to gtfo; in one way it's sweet, but on another level I find it kind of creepy and pathetic that he's hanging onto Shi Won like that. As much as he insists that he likes Shi Won for herself and not because of any resemblance to her sister, I still can't get over the fact that she was supposed to be his SISTER-IN-LAW if things hadn't gone pear-shaped. For all people talk about how you can't control who you love, the idea of being able to fall for two sisters just... rubs me the wrong way.

Date: 2012-09-10 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I think CH's body would look waaaay too buff on TW :)

TW is fine in any scene not with SW but with SW, the creepometer goes high. Plus, on a practical note, SW is the ;least-suited presidential wife ever.

Date: 2012-09-10 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hanjae.livejournal.com
Shi Won just doesn't fit with Tae Woong - he'll probably ascede to her every request and be the perfect hubby, plus he's the "safe" option. Perhaps they'll even be happy that way, but I honestly think that's a very boring way to live.

Date: 2012-09-10 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iviih.livejournal.com
'' the idea of being able to fall for two sisters just... rubs me the wrong way.''

What about SW? Imo, the idea of her dating both brothers rubs me the wrong way. I mean, if you weren't sure about your feelings why accept TW in first place, just to hurt him? And then makes him wait for 6 years and go to the other brother? She dated TW and now will date his younger brother, this is not cool.

She made TW be there for her for 6 years, I kinda got angry about it.

I know TW said he would wait and can't give up and all, but SW did let him be there for her, making he has hopes, it seems aside the ''I really like you but my heart don't beat fast for you TW'' she accepted TW's help all this time, even though she knew her feelings already (likes Yoon Jae) and she also knows he still likes her, but instead of saying ''TW, I like someone else, you are just a older brother for me, please move on, don't have hopes anymore, '' she let him be her ''daddy long legs'' which is better for her, you know have someone caring for her and helping her all these years. This just makes me angry for her doing it. It isn't cool. If you know you can't give back the same feelings, why do you let the person have hopes....

I now think, maybe the writer made this on purpose. Maybe YJ and SW start dating but their relationship don't work and SW realizes she likes TW who was there for her in the last 6 years. I like TW's character a lot, but I don't ship him and SW...


I think because the actors don't click well together, maybe because TW's actor is just too old for SW and they don't have chemistry at all, giving it creepy vibes to others, but I do think if it was a younger actor and they had chesmistry, would have people shipping them too.

Well, I don't care who ends with who, if they are happy in the future, I'm happy :) I just hope Jo Hee also has a new love because everyone seems married/is marrying, what about him drama?

Date: 2012-09-10 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hanjae.livejournal.com
Yes, but in SW's defense, she 1) was young, immature and totally inexperienced and 2) in connection to that, idolized TW to the point where she was probably just pleased that he liked her (and didn't think about anything else) when she agreed to go out with TW. I know I usually hate it when people throw out the "he/she was young and didn't know any better!" excuse, but in this case I think it really applies.

And actually, hadn't she turned down TW before? She turned him down when she left - it wasn't like she told him to wait for her or anything. She straight out and told him that it wasn't him that she liked, and she continued to say so when he pressed her for an answer again years later. That actually made me think, "Dude, she's just not into you!" Yes, she accepted TW's help, but she's always done so. It would actually have been worse if she had treated him differently and kept her distance - after all, he's always been a beloved older brother figure to her. She's already made it clear multiple times that she didn't like him that way and that it WASN'T going to change even if he continued hanging around her as a daddy long legs figure - it was TW who insisted on carrying hopes when there appeared to be none.

I would really hate it if the writers threw TW and SW together, but I can see why it might end up happening that way in reality. He's sweet, considerate, etc. etc. Basically the nice, safe option. Heck, even I might go for him if I was SW! But in a drama context, I'd really like them to go with SW/YJ. There's something so nice about two lifelong friends working out romantically, you know? And besides, if YJ's loved her for that long, I simply can't see him sitting back and calling her his hyungsoo-nim.

Date: 2012-09-11 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I think what hanjae said below goes for me as well - I don't absolve SW back way when but she was only 18 and very immature 18 at that. TW was an adult. So I place the responsibility on him. And in 2005, she has repeatedly made clear she only sees him as a friend - she is not leading him on, it's his choice to stick around.

Ultimately, I don't mind the dead sister thing (I love Which Star Are You From, which has Kim Rae Won falling for his fiancee's twin!) or the age thing (I shipped Yoon/Maeri in AGD) or even the teacher thing (a fan of Hello My Teacher) under the right circumstances - the thing is, the show has to convince me that my default ick impression is wrong and this relationship is shippable because [insert reasons here]. But AM1997 never does that with TW/SW at all - it barely spends any time on them. So my default ick impression remains.

Date: 2012-09-10 09:03 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Speaking from personal experiences, it's TaeWoong.

Date: 2012-09-10 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Eeeeek, my YJ/SW shipper is closing her ears and dancing in place :)

Date: 2012-09-10 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
My number one priority for this show is Shi Won's happiness, but my number two is Joon Hee's. And I ship Shi Won/Yoon Jae so ridiculously hard!

I wanted to vote for both the "creepy" and the "whatever" items in the second question, because I think both are true, but I ended up going with the creepy one.

Date: 2012-09-11 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yeah, I like TW in every scene except those he has with SW.

Date: 2012-09-11 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com
I know! He's generally a good guy and a very good brother, and I love the brotherly scenes with YJ. I'm explaining his feelings for SW as being rooted in his never getting over her sister and transferring those feelings onto her. I don't think he'd do that on purpose, but that's the only thing that makes sense to me.

Date: 2012-09-11 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m3lee.livejournal.com
I just read that AM 1997 is only airing Ep.15 this Tuesday. Albeit, it's gonna be an extra long episode. But still, I was really looking forward to seeing how this drama is going to end. I can hardly bear waiting another week.

I think(and hope) it's gonna be YJ&SW and to me, the titile ”Why First Loves Never Come True” refers to SW and TW. "First love" can also mean the first person you dated so for SW that would mean TW and so the title would fit. Wishful thinking??? Maybe...but I hope not.

I feel bad for Song Jong Ho. I've seen several of his dramas and he NEVER gets the girl. But I am glad he's finally getting more recognition.

As always, DM, lovely post. =)

Date: 2012-09-13 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thank you!

I am sure it's YJ but a liiiiitle part of me is paranoid.

Date: 2012-09-11 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cwazy-weiven.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure it's Yoon Jae and I do want it to be Yoon Jae too. But I'd be lying if I said that I wouldn't mind if they pulled it out of left field and Yoon Jae went with Joon Hee 8D I seriously doubt it but it would be so amazing.

Date: 2012-09-13 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I think they should be an OT3!

Date: 2012-09-11 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eraeos.livejournal.com
I wasn't originally a shipper for either pairing, but watching Tae-woong and Shi-won date was... painful. She was so, so young and immature, and he was young (in his 20s), too, but he had been forced to mature quickly from middle school to step into the role of parenting for Yoon-jae as the eldest son. After their brief dating period, Yoon-jae and Shi-won felt like a breath of fresh air because they were clearly more or less equals, and it felt right. I didn't find Tae-woong's courting Shi-won romantic, but I didn't find it creepy either. He didn't realize that his attachment to Shi-won was his emotionally unhealthy way of coping with Song-ju's loss... and his waiting for her six years stemming from his desire to seek closure through a familiar mentor/student dynamic. It felt so... human, to me. After all, that's why the concept of "rebounds" exist in our society. Shi-won was a rebound (and boy, did that relationship move fast on Tae-woong's part...a ring hinting at marriage not long after dating!), but she was also his younger sister as well as the younger sister of Song-ju, who then died... and that's a lot of clusterfuck right there. It wasn't right, but then again, grief (in the form of an end to a relationship, compounded by death) drives people to do stupid things, like unwittingly rebounding to another partner for their similarities to their exes.

I wouldn't worry about ”Why First Loves Never Come True” as a death signal for Yoon-jae/Shi-won ship. There are a lot of ways to interpret that statement, and IMHO, I don't see Yoon-jae and Shi-won renewing their romance and getting into a full-fledged relationship as a first love. Also, you should be comforted by this fact: Tae-woong will most likely end up with the doctor/director of the hospital, because Tae-woong seems to be based on Ahn Cheol-soo – a billionaire businessman/tech innovator (founder of AhnLabs, Inc.), philanthropist (who routinely gives away a large portion of his fortune now and then), Seoul National University professor, and a leftist political superstar* with a rumored presidential candidacy who came from modest beginnings in Busan – and Ahn's wife is also a top-notch doctor. ;)

*To get an idea of his political "celebrity," here's Ahn Cheol-soo promising to sing and dance in a mini-skirt for the public if the voter turnout is 70% after using Angry Birds to make a political analogy. ;P
Edited Date: 2012-09-11 06:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-09-13 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Ooooh, interesting RL connection, thanks!

I like TW but he is the absolutely wrong choice for SW and vice versa.

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