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I’ve decided to dip my toes into romance books. Yes, I know, I know. But I can’t imagine any literary field is devoid of good books. My rate of success with it has never been good. If you don’t count Georgette Heyer, because she wrote comedies of manners well before romance genre was invented, the only bona fide romance novelist I’ve ever liked is Patricia Veryan, because her books are heavy on adventure (she clearly liked Jefferey Farnol) and have romance in measured dozes. Also, they are heavily male-centric.

I just find the main concept of a romance novel not too appealing. It’s sort of like chocolate. Love it, makes for a great dessert. But wouldn’t just want to eat only chocolate all day. I love for a book to have an amazing, passionate romance, but when it’s the only thing in the book it leaves me bored. If a cool character falls in love, it makes for a great story. But I can’t find any character cool whose sole thoughts are on mush. I love what used to be termed “romances” at the turn of the century: Dumas, Younge, Farnol (Farnol’s Definite Object is, for some reason, a book I could reread ad nauseam, as it involves a bored young NY millionaire Geoff something or other who one day stops a young house-breaker and on an impulse decides to go and live in the kid’s slum because he just might be interested in his sister, Hermione. And there he meets all sorts of people and gets involved in all sorts of stories. Plus he is all manly and can fight well and tries to bust up a gang and he and Hermione have angst etc etc. And since it was published before WWI, it has that interesting quality of a lost age).

Anyway, this is a rather long preamble to saying that I decided to give another romance novelist a try: Jo Beverley. Mainly because she is on a Dorothy Dunnett list I am on and if she likes Dunnett, she can’t have too bad a taste. So I picked up a copy of “Devilish” and started reading over the weekend. Hmmmm. For a romance novel, it’s not too bad, but it suffers from the same problems most romance novels do: there is such an exclusive focus on romance that these people don’t feel like three-dimensional beings. Also, the author keeps pointing out how intelligent and powerful they are, but while they are not powerless dummies, her claims don’t really bear out. Also, I find both the hero and the heroine nice but a bit dull. Sparkle of wit or a shade of nastiness would have served either better. And of course, the problem that 99% of romance novels have: they feel like modern people playing dress-up, not 18th century beings. There is also a bit of plot that is an homage to Dunnett’s Lymond Chronicles, but while it is perfect, organic and heart-breaking in Dunnett, here I am just “come on!” Apparently, I am being a bit skewed in my views as this is the last book of a loosely connected series and the main character of this one is someone who was a secondary character in all four (and the heroine was in another book as well), so I might be missing prior coolness and the sheer fun of “at last, X gets a book about him/herself.” After all, I don’t know if I’d have liked Veryan’s last volume of Jewelled Men or Gold Chronicles if I haven’t been waiting 5 books for Roland or August to get their own novels.

But so far, Rothgar something or other is rather boring, and considering I am 3/4 in, he is unlikely to improve. However, I am kinda interested in two of his brothers, one of whom is completely absent from the book and is only mentioned (absence makes the heart grow fonder, I guess), but who apparently ended up cross-dressing as a girl, travelling with this girl cross-dressing as a boy (shades of Heyer’s “The Masqueraders”) in a prior book, and one of whom appears briefly and is someone who loves accounting, freely confesses to not even being the best (or second best) swordsman in his family, is uber-gorgeous, and seems to be remarkably fine with being married to a woman named Portia. So I ditched “Devilish” (because it really wasn’t) and bought the two books with the other boys.

Me being me, I started with the later one with the sexy accountant with a Saxon name (I would like to know why everyone in that family has Saxon names. Was their father mad? On the plus side, none of them are named Storm, Dirk, or Cloud McManly, on the minus side, I am a bit at a loss as to how to pronounce the hero’s name). So far so good as I only finished chapater 1 but am already enjoying it about 10 times as much as the other one. Probably because the Unpronounceable One just broke into a house to steal some letter or other (for reasons explained in a book I haven’t read) and ended up being confronted by the future Mrs and the scene ended up being rather funny and a bit hot and they were being Heyerish and the whole thing reminded me a bit of a Heyer short story (only there the girl broke in) whose name I don’t remember. Also, he doesn’t seem boring and neither does she. He also seems to be an intelligent bored rich guy, not someone suffering from a Deep Dark Secret (tm) which, when implausbly cured will instantly make him ideal husband material. Also, the plot of the novel (at least as described on the back) reminds me of my favorite Heyer short story, “Hazard.” So I’ll see how it goes but for now it’s surprisingly not bad.

Date: 2006-01-10 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
On the plus side, none of them are named Storm, Dirk, or Cloud McManly

This reminds me of a Mystery Science Theater 3000 where they spent a great deal of the movie coming up with manly names for the main character in the movie they were watching.

Crow:Bridge Largemeat!
Mike Nelson: Punt Speedchunk!
Crow: Butch Deadlift!
Crow: Bald Bigplank!
Mike Nelson: Splint Chesthair!
Mike Nelson: Flint Ironstag!
Crow: Bulk Vanderhuge!
Mike Nelson: Thick Mcrunfast!
Crow: Buff Drinklots!
Tom Servo: Slunk Slabchest!
Crow: Fist Rockbone!
Mike Nelson: Stomp Beefmob!
Tom Servo: Smash Lampjaw!
Crow: Punch Rockgroin!
Mike Nelson: Buck Plankchest!
Crow: Stump Chokmen!
Tom Servo: Dirk Hardpeck!
Mike Nelson: Rip Steakface!
Tom Servo: Crud Bonemeal!
Mike Nelson: Brick Hardmeat!
Crow: Rip Slabcheek!
Tom Servo: Bob Johnson! No wait...
Mike Nelson: Smoke Man Muscle!
Mike Nelson: Gristle McThornbody!

Date: 2006-01-10 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
ROTFLOL.

I am particularly fond of Stomp Beefmob and Rip Steakface. We need a romance novels with them, for sure.

Date: 2006-01-10 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koalathebear.livejournal.com
Pamela Belle is also nice but she's more historical than romance romance. English Civil War and all that jazz.

Date: 2006-01-10 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
But I prefer historical novels. So thanks for the recs, I will definitely check her out.

Date: 2006-01-10 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
I have no idea how much her taste would mesh with yours, but I LOVE reading Mrs.Giggles' romance reviews. Here are her most recommended books:

http://mrsgiggles.com/books/keepers.html

Date: 2006-01-10 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thanks. Will check it out :)

Date: 2006-01-10 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
I have to admit that I mainly love reading her negative reviews because I find them deeply amusing. But I do hope that her positive reviews are worth something as well :)

BTW, don't know which Jo Beverly you read, but Mrs. Giggle rated most of her books somewhere in the middle (between 60 and 50). Devilish was one of the higher rated ones at 71 and her favorite Jo Beverly seems to be Winter Fire at 85.

But I warn you she has a thing about heroines and will often grade a book around how whimpish or multidimensial she thinks the heroine is (and if she likes the heroine then based on whether she thinks that the hero is cool enough for the kick ass heroine).

Date: 2006-01-10 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
See, I am all about the heroes. The heroine can be as annoying as she pleases :P

Yes, I am going to read the bad reviews as they are way more fun :P

Date: 2006-01-10 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sourisvho.livejournal.com
OMG, Patricia Veryan!! She is my all-time-favorite writer. The Sanguinet Saga is the best thing ever. Every once in a while, I'll pick up "Sanguinet's Crown," open it to a random page and just start reading. Love all the action and adventure and humor in her books. And mmmmm, Falcon. Rowr. (Though I admit to being disappointed in "Mandarin" -- I think I'd built it up too much in my head waiting for it.)

I second the rec for Pamela Belle. Good stuff. I think her books can be hard to find, though. I'd also recommend Judith Merkle Riley, especially "The Oracle Glass." I love to reread that one. Her books are very historical with a touch of magic or the paranormal.

Date: 2006-01-10 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I run the Veryan mailing list so yes, huge Veryan fan here.

I love Mandarin actually, mainly because I've been waiting for August and Gwen to get together since the first book where she broke his sword (and there is so much h/c in that book, it's insane, yay).

My favorite Veryan generally alternates between Mandarin, Dedicated Villain (guuuuh, Roland. And hideous torture. Plus, I wanted to read about him since the second book of the series when he begged for his horse) and Love Alters Not because I think Dimity and Tony are the best suited couple ever, in Veryan, and it also has plenty of swordfights and h/c. And lots of Anthony angst.

Of her non-Georgians, Sanguinet's Crown is my favorite (Mitch!!!) and I adore it, but I prefer her Georgians overall.

Oh, and I love all of the Golden Chronicles (except for the 5th book which is OK but I am not in love with it) and as to ToJM series, it was the second book in it (with Tio and Amy) that started my Veryan obssession.

Date: 2006-01-11 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sourisvho.livejournal.com
The Yahoo Veryan mailing list? Small world, because I'm on it! I very rarely have time to take part in discussions, but I read them.

I was totally waiting for August and Gwen to get together, too -- their scenes were the highlights of the series for me -- but I had such vivid ideas of how I wanted it to happen that I think it disappointed me when it didn't happen the way I had envisioned. Silly, but true.

Sanguinet's Crown is my favorite of her books. (Mitch!!! indeed! I can't decide between him and August who's my favorite hero. Can I have them both? ;-) I also have a soft spot for Feather Castles, because it was the first Veryan book I ever read. The Regencies are my favorites because that's my favorite period of history. Plus they were the ones I read first, back in high school when I had time to read and reread and obsess about them, so I remember them much better.

Of the Georgians, The Tyrant is my favorite. I know it's not the best one, but I love it for some reason.

Date: 2006-01-11 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yup, the Yahoo one. Gosh, that list is so old that I started it when it was till e-groups, or onelist, whatever was earlier.

I actually like Tyrant as well. Though hate Meredith's mother. She's awful.

Date: 2006-01-11 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amykay73.livejournal.com
I hear you on romance novels. As much as I am a shipper ho in many fandoms, I too can't stomach pure romance novels.

Date: 2006-01-11 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's too much of a good thing, you know?

Date: 2006-01-11 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muffinkath7.livejournal.com
Try Julia Quinn. She's great. Romancey, but also COOL. That's the only way to explain her.

Date: 2006-01-11 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thanks for the rec, I will.

Date: 2006-01-11 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
Randomly? Somebody on my friendslist wrote smutty Mal/Inara.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/foxxcub/161620.html

Date: 2006-01-11 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yessss. The virus is spreading :P

Date: 2006-01-11 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dawntreader717.livejournal.com
Try Lavyrle Spencer. I really like her. November of the Heart and Morning Glory are my two favorites by her.

Date: 2006-01-11 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thanks!

I am so excited to have all the recs!

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