Smallville fanfic

[dangermousie]

I was reading up some Smallville fanfic on my lunch break.

What can I say? For a fandom which such spotty source material, it has some incredible fic (I got a lot of it from recs thread at TWoP)!

Also, for some bizarre unfathomable reason my inner Canon Nazi has completely died when it comes to this show, as I discovered my joy in not only slash (!!!) that is Clark/Lex but also the het fun that is Chloe/Lex which makes about as much canon sense as Apollo/Racetrack or similar. But soooooo good.

And I have NO desire to read about any canon ships. I have no idea what is up with that.

Heeeeee.

P.S. If I want to get some Smallville icons, where do I find them?

Comments

[life-on-queen.livejournal.com]

I have a theory that the worse the show, the better the general quality of fanon. You have to work harder as a SG1 or Smallville fan, IMO, because the canon is so lame. As a result, there's some extraordinary fic out there about characters I just can't be bothered to watch on TV.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

That is so true. E.g. I have never been interested in writing Farscape fic because TPTB satisfied me so completely and because I thought the quality of the original was so high.

I don't think I'll ever seek out most Smallville eps or anything like that, but I am certainly going to seek out more Smallville fic, because some of it is amazing.

[crumpeteer.livejournal.com]

The fact that the canon's are weak also allows fanfic writers to write and not worry about trying to be sticklers to everything technical in a series. Series with very tight plots and detailed canon are very hard to write about. This generally keeps writers who are good and know what undertaking something like that entails away from writing much while the badfic writers bang away with reckless abandon.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yes, exactly.

E.g. Farscape (yes, I know I keep bringing it up but it's my fave show ever) had a very tight plot arc (basically most of the show was one plot arc) and very detailed and consistent characters. I always thought that trying to write IC fic that fit into the very tight frame plotwise would have been a nightmare. There are some good fic writers in farscape, so people manage, but it's clearly much harder than when you have license to roam.

It's also really hard to do UC ships in something like Farscape which has really well-developed in-character ships, than in something that's pretty loose and porous.

[linaerys.livejournal.com]

That's what I was going to say. I think it's because the best shows don't really leave much room for fic, or if they do, it's pure canon fic, because why mess with what works.

But with a show like SV (or a movie like The Fast and the Furious), the canon is so ridiculous, and there are giant plot holes and lots of UST between leads who are not supposed to be involved, that fans pretty much HAVE to jump in the mix.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Exactly. I've also found that sometimes the lamest canon makes the best fic.

[crumpeteer.livejournal.com]

The icons would be here.
http://www.livejournal.com/community/smallville_cons/

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Thanks *loves*

[winterspel.livejournal.com]

*laughs* Aren't you glad there are writers out there who wrote lovely non-canon ships then? Btw, if you can't see Clark/Lex, you've got to be blind, right? :D I never got into Smallville, but the few times I've watched it, it was only for Lex, who is the best thing about that show.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

It's hilarious how fast I changed my mind on UC shipping when it came to Smallville.

if you can't see Clark/Lex, you've got to be blind, right?

Yup. Indeed.

it was only for Lex, who is the best thing about that show.

I ended up ffing most of the non-Lex parts of the eps and you have no idea how much better (not to mention faster) it made the show!

[crumpeteer.livejournal.com]

What, you didn't like Clark and Lana staring at each other and looking like deer in the headlights of a very boring truck? ;)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

No, I have no idea what came over me. But it was nothing that going at 8x speed through the DVD wouldn't cure!

[thelana.livejournal.com]

I admit that I always found Chloe/Lex beyond creepy. See there is like a law or something that our tastes to have like diametrically opposite :D But I heard there is some good smutty fic on them.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

is like a law or something that our tastes to have like diametrically opposite

ROFL.

I don't think Chloe/Lex is any creepier than Clark/Lex (yay) or Lana/Lex (ugh) because Chloe, Clark, and Lana are all the same age. Of course, if you think they are all creepy, it's another matter. I've read too many Victorian novels in my time to have a less than 10 year difference bug me.

I heard there is some good smutty fic on them

And I found a motherlode yesterday. *big happy grin*

[thelana.livejournal.com]

I actually meant creepy in "lack of canon evidence". Something that at least both Clex and Lexana have. Like at least Lex and Lana interact occasionally (speaking season 1 here) and Clark and Lex have this friendship. But Chlex? Had like zero meaningful scenes in my mind and where totally based on conjecture and wishful thinking.

To me, there is still a different between UC ships that are based on a relationship (that just happens to be non romantic/sexual in canon) and ships of characters you just take out of thin air.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

See, to me, there is no difference (when in Canon Nazi mode) between UC ships that have some interactions and none. Both are UC.

But for some reason, my Canon Nazi hat is gone when it comes to Smallville. I guess I know how people who write Ginny/Draco in Harry Potter feel: it pushes their buttons and no basis in canon is necessary.

I think the Chloe/Lex thing is because if you want to read het, the only other option is Lana (for either Clark OR Lex) and I think I'd rather give myself small papercuts than read Lex/Lana.

[thelana.livejournal.com]

I don't know, I like UC, but I think it should still have something to do with the characters. Like, I like what I see between the characters on the show, but I want to elevate it into more. The characters having a canon basis, basically gives you an angle.

Complete randomness just doesn't attract me.

I tried to read some Lex/Lana once but even the most recommended ones struck me as fairly boring). LOL, which means that you might actually like it. Then again, it has often been claimed that fanfic!Lana or Lexana!Lana actually doesn't have much to do with show Lana (which might just be because the fics struck me as boring). The most infamous Lexana writer is Christie. Who I like a lot (she has a lot of neat fandom tastes and she's on my friendslist), but not even that could make me get into the fic.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I am not reading any fic with Lana as a main character. There is too much of her as is :P

[thelana.livejournal.com]

And with 8x that's quite a feat ;)

I have to say, as odd as it is, I never read much Smallville fanfic. I liked the fandom, liked discussing in it, really appreciated the creativity that was obviously going on, but I never really read a lot. Maybe the sheer size of it was overwhelming or maybe it was that I got into the fandom relatively late (when I started watching the first season was over and I just got the episodes in retrospect and by the end of season 2 I was already mostly checked out) If I read something, then it was usually more obscure stuff. And in Smallville's case that usually meant gen or otherwise sweet stuff. Like, I dunno, Chloe/Pete (or, I technically didn't read that either, but I went looking for some once ;D And I always wanted some stories where Martha and/or Jonathan played some more interesting roles; Speaking of them, there is supposed to be some great, porny Martha/Lex out there O__o)

Randomly, when you read slash, do you also read higher rated stuff or do you stick with PG? Because I'd be curious what you'd think of Te (again, I haven't read any of her Smallville stuff, but I remember her from X-Files).

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Martha/Lex? You go, Mrs. Robinson! :P

When I read slash (which isn't often. Smallville is almost the first fandom I've ever read slash in not by mistake), I don't mind NC-17, same as with het. Never been prudish, so as long as I like the pairing at all, I don't care if there is kissing or graphic stuff.

The reason I didn't want any NC-17 Clark/Lex btw, when I was looking for recs initially, was because I didn't know any canon at all so reading a PWP would have been meaningless.

[linaerys.livejournal.com]

If you find Martha/Lex, link that s**t! I never thought of that pairing, but now that you mention it, it sounds great.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I am not actively looking for it, but thelana might know where some is. I also think I remember some mentioned on the TWoP thread...

[thelana.livejournal.com]

I read some, but that was ages ago. Don't think I could find it again. Doesn't Level 3 have a pairing search? I doubt that it's a pairing that gets written a lot.

[kasabean.livejournal.com]

just completely changing the subject here but that is one of the best buffy/angel icons i have seen is ages. *points and grins*

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Thank you. I am a huge B/A fan. It's by thenyxie

[thelana.livejournal.com]

BTW, I'm so gonna call you on this in case you ever decide to do one of your delicious "I love canon/how can people write or enjoy this evil non OTP ship" ;D

I'll just pull out Chloe/Lex the next time you are horrified over Anakin/Obi-wan or Liz/Michael ;D

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Tee-hee. Busted!

[thelana.livejournal.com]

Before you know you will be writing canon raping stories where Logan and Veronica hook up immediately, ignoring the whole Hannah arc ;D Or even the whole Duncan arc.

[poisontaster]

Yes, I'm far more interested in the SV fandom than the actual show. Even James Marsters couldn't pull me back. But bantha_fodder writes wonderful Lex/Chloe fic that must be read.

a restaurant with white tablecloths is exquisite. But all of it is truly exceptional. You can find all her chloe/lex fic here

zeplum also write very good Lex/Chloe. Hers is here.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Eeeee! Thanks for the recs!

*is giddy*

[rawles.livejournal.com]

Watch season three. That's where the Chloe/Lex comes from. The show's utter lack of consistency and inability to even remember plotlines half the time sort of killed it in canon post-season three just when it could have spawned some really, really interesting dynamics, but it was there for quite a few episodes, as they worked together to try to take down his father. Their scenes were some of my absolute favorites in the entire series and pretty much the only reason to watch Smallville IMO during season three. But, you know, I'm not going to go on a big rant about Chloe/Lex and canon or whatever, because I'm still really bitter that the Chloe/Lex storyline was dropped, but I don't think the ship itself was pulled out of thin air. Looking at season four when they, insanely, don't have a single scene together until the finale makes it look like it, but that's just because Smallville is very bad on follow-through or recognizing potential. So, the saga of the Luthors and their Chloe was tossed out in favor of Lana's magical tattoo and the show was much, much the worse for it.

This annoyance is a lot fresher in my mind right now than it's been in a while as I've recently been reviewing the greatest hits of Chloe/Lex as I showed them to a friend. Good times. Lots of smoulderment.

[rawles.livejournal.com]

Also, I just remember that I wrote some mini-meta on them in my ships post a while back when the bitterness about their lack of season four interaction was fresh in my mind. It's here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/rawles/106084.html#cutid4). And the image that I used was from one of my favorite Smallville scene period. Poignant and awesome.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Oooooh, love the pic and the write-up!

Any Chloe/Lex fic recs, btw...

[rawles.livejournal.com]

Sadly, no. The only person I would have recced would be Pen (bantha_fodder) because I haven't read any SV fic but hers in quite some time, so I don't exactly have my fingers on the pulse of the mill of awesome fic production.

[rawles.livejournal.com]

And I just realized that made it sound like I'd only rec her because she's the only thing I've been reading, but that bitch knows I love her SO WHATEVER.

[thelana.livejournal.com]

Both the Clark/Lex and the Chloe/Lex essay from ship_manifesto have a couple of recs at the end.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I just browsed the Chloe/Lex essay and Good Lord. They really pulled out all the stops to give Lex a woobie status! Psycho mother and father, electroshock therapy (I can't help but think of Salman in Kyun Ki. Maybe Lex should dance with Kareena in Switzerland :P)

Of course, I think the problem with making him a woobie is that unlike with someone like VM's Logan, Lex is fated to go bad which will make the fandom really POed, I'd imagine. Hmmmm.

[katranna.livejournal.com]

Haha! Yes, see, didn't I tell you that this is the exact type of thing that pushes some people to slash?

It's just that some also really like the idea of m/m relationships in themselves, so they try to seek out slash, as opposed to letting it hit them over the head, as here.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Heeee. But it would have to be something extreme to make me notice slash, so I am rather amused about it :P

[femmenerd.livejournal.com]

Dude. Smallville is so strange. It's so bad yet sometimes I must watch it and mock and think strange slashy thoughts. I know that compared to you I'm not that much of a canon freak but I usually like some canon ships and on that show I don't like any of 'em. And you can't convince me that Lex isn't totally in love with Clark.

Maybe you'll post some of these good Clex links?

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yeah, all the canon ships are so DULL.

I am going to post a bunch of lovely Clark/Lex (and some Chloe/Lex) tomorrow.

you can't convince me that Lex isn't totally in love with Clark

I just watched som S1 ep where Clark gets taken hostage and Lex is all "I am gonna rescue him" and vice-versa, and seriously. There is waaaay more lust in there than should be :P

Plus, he does keeps hanging around a high school and buying him outrageously expensive presents.

[aliterati.livejournal.com]

I am so proud of you!

Plus, I'm back home. Let's arrange a rendez-vous. You can tell me all about Lex/Clark. ;P

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I will indeed :P