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It continues so good!



You know what I realized? Dan Ah doesn't shake hands with anyone. She does the bow thing. In light of that, the fact that she shook hands on their 'fake dating' bargain with KS back way when is huge...

In other news, OMG, when he asks her why she let him kiss her and that he'll let her slap him as many times as she likes, and she replies that it was because he looked so sad (which, in view of her no touch attitude is major) and he asks if she feels sympathy, will she spend the night with him out of sympathy? AAAAAAAA!!! I WANT!!!! But she says (and I love that she isn't angry and he isn't being rude) that what is the point, they'll likely be sadder in the morning.





He finds out about her scars. I just love that she opens up to him the way she doesn't to anyone else. Also, now that he knows, Mousie's fantasy of scar-kissing is one step closer to reality.




I laughed so hard at this, I felt sick, just like the bystanders. Love that KS is willing to make a fool out of himself when she is around - he actually enjoys life with her there -he's even beginning to wonder about a different path which he hasn't before - he knew he didn't like his path but didn't see any alternatives before (as his convo with his father indicated).





He talks to her about not burying herself in the grave and seeing him as a man, but of course she throws his past words in his face - about wanting her begging on her knees and tells him she knows he's competitive and loves games and it's killing him he's not winning this one. Oh, kang Suk. The earlier pit you dug for yourself is huge. Clawing out of it will be interesting.




Date: 2011-08-15 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkwithheroes.livejournal.com
fantasy of scar-kissing is one step closer to reality

I can't remember, but I want to say that or something similar happens later on.


BTW: I'm so glad I'm not the only person who has a thing for scar-kissing. I write an original series, and one of the characters has burn-scars. . .I totally use the scar-kissing - just because.

Date: 2011-08-15 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yeah, I love that stuff which sadly rarely happens in kdramas. I kept fantasizing about it in City Hunter.

Date: 2011-08-15 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iheartkleenex.livejournal.com
HA! I'm a couple of episodes behind! lol

I am so happy this drama has 54 episodes!!! I don't even use my ff button that much this time around, and I have all the time in the world to watch it!!

But seriously I adore it. Everyone's dysfunctionality is so yummy to watch!

I also came to realize that I love the relationship between her older brother Soo Young (I think that's how you spell it) and Jin Ah. Everyone is so amazing!

Date: 2011-08-15 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I know - I marathonned and ffed like crazy in the first dozen or so ep, then slowed down when I really got into it, and now am savoring and doing only a couple eps a day. So good! I love oldest bro and his OTP - they are the sweetest.

Still don't care for middle bro but ehhh, whatever.

Also, I think it's hilarious I hated Kang Suk for so long and now one crooked grin, one longing look and I melt like butter on a stove...

Date: 2011-08-15 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iheartkleenex.livejournal.com
Eh, who cares about middle brother!? lol

I know, Kang Suk annoyed me at the beginning so I would just stare at his face instead and ignore all the stupid things he said.

I'm also cheering for his sister and the student guy, I'm only at episode 19 and I am determine not to peak at the end episode.

Date: 2011-08-15 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I know, he was such a jerk and now I am all 'wooooooooooooooooobie!!!!' I love how he is this difficult, realistic person who still makes me swoon.

I love student/sis.

Date: 2011-08-15 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iheartkleenex.livejournal.com
His sister is really insane, I mean I had crushes on guys that didn't like me but I never went as far as collecting their water cups from the trash or keeping molded stuff in a container.

I like her character, I just want to see her get better. I want them all as one gigantic happy family!!

Date: 2011-08-16 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Pretty much. I love everyone in this which is vvvv rare for me.

Date: 2011-08-15 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleobulle.livejournal.com
After some crazy marathoning, I'm all caught up with you. There are so many things to say about the drama that I can't begin to put my toughts in writing so I'll concentrate on this post instead.

OMG! KS is in hell. And I peaked ahead at the next two episodes and it's only the beginning. You mentioned in another post how weird it was to watch TPM and FH at the same time because the characters PSH plays are so different. I agree. And I actually think I like KS more than SY at this point. Or rather, it would be more accurate to say that KS fascinates me more. But then SY hasn't hit rock bottom yet so the real suffering hasn't really started yet. The more a hero is tortured and conflicted, the more fascinating he becomes.

I loved KS's telling the story of the scorpion and the frog to DA. How sad that he views himself like that. But I actually love the darker side of his nature. I'm a sucker for ruthless men who fall so deeply in love they don't know which way is up or down (in fiction that is, in RL I'd run away as far as my legs would take me). Angst and manpain ahoy.

I don't know how KS will drag himself out of the hole he dug for himself. And I'm toying with the idea that it acutally wasn't an unconscious desire to get closer to DA that made him initiate the "game". I think he might have very well been aware of what he was doing all along. He wasn't thinking in terms of love of course but he's been fascinated by her from the beginning and I think he knows very well that he desires her. He did want to help his sister, that's clear. But in a previous episode, when he was angry at college student because of something concerning DA (can't remember what thought, I watched too many episodes in one go), his sister misunderstood and thought he was angry at him for her sake. That might have given him the idea that his true feelings could fly under the radar.

At the beginning of their game, he gave himself the perfect cover to do exactly what he was dying to do and say what he might never have dared to say otherwise but now this cover he made full use of is his ball and chains. I think he started this game because he knew he wanted her but she was like this unattainable fantasy. But as of episode 22, he's spent a lot of time with her, has glimpsed some of her true character and feelings and he can't help himself wanting more. He wants the unattainable to become his. He knew the game was dangerous for him from the beginning but he was drawn like a moth to a flame and he got so badly burned he'll never recover. He's a goner for good.

You know, it strikes me that if their roles were reversed (with KS as the grieving widower), I would have stayed away from this drama like it had the plague. Watching KS angst over his rivals (one dead, one alive!) and the tragic past of his lady love is delicious but I wouldn't want to watch DA angsting over a male version of herself. Double standards for the win!

ps:totally unrelated but I didn't know where to post it....Did you read about the real ending City Hunter was supposed to have but couldn't because of the floods in Korea at the time? Part of me wishes they'd managed to film it because it would have been my dream ending but another part of me says that the ending tha we got was actually more appropriate after the confrontation between father and son and its tragic conclusion. Plus I think it's confirmed that some YS/NN shippy scenes ended up on the cutting room floor. I hope they release a dvd set with all those cut scenes edited back in.

Date: 2011-08-15 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puion.livejournal.com
Love reading your thoughts on the characterization of KS.

And could you tell me what the supposed real ending to City Hunter was? Thanks!

Date: 2011-08-19 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleobulle.livejournal.com
Sorry for answering so late! Maybe you've already found out about the CH ending. Just in case, you'll be able to find a detailed summary of the original ending on the City Hunter thread over at Soompi. Basically, YS and NN opened a PI agency, a bit like in the manga. NN scolds him when he looks at women. The President's daughter was scouted by a talent agency and became a pop star (a bit of meta about the actress), YS's mother and ahjussi opened a restaurant. And some more stuff I don't remember.

Date: 2011-08-16 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I read the CH ending and oh, I don't care fitting or not, I would have wanted that so badly! *gnashes teeth*

I am with you on double standards - a reversal would not have appealed to me in the least as well. I think it parts it's just my personal preferences in fiction but in part because it does go against gender norms to have a FH situation - the man a blank slate in a romantic (if not sexual) sense and not the woman; the man who is the more desperate and so obsessed. And yet KS remains very very masculine even in his utter surrender. It's irresistible to me.

Re: game. That is a very interesting thought - not one I ever thought about before but the more I think about your theory, the more it makes sense to me. He wanted to create a safe space for himself, to explore this newness in a safe way, but it blew up in his face.

I am very interested how he will dig himself out - she is coming more and more alive and is certainly attracted to him, but she's too wary. He'd have to uterly publically humble himself or something and even then she may be wary. I am not sure.

Date: 2011-08-19 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cleobulle.livejournal.com
Some people over at Soompi were hoping the crew would go back to film the ending of CH and include it in the DVD. That would be awesome but has almost 0 chance to happen unfortunately.

Re-double standards, I'm with you. Actually, I'm sometimes uncomfortable even with Dan Ah as the grieving widow. There's a scene that I think you haven't seen yet so I won't spoil it, I'll just tell you it happens at the grave of DA's husband so that you will know which one I'm talking about when you see it. Well, my heart broke for KS and it made me feel mighty uncomfortable as a viewer. I even cried a bit. This drama is kind of quiet but it packs quite a punch emotion-wise.

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