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By now it must be pretty clear that (a) I love period Chinese dramas, be they Mainland, Taiwanese, or Hong Kong; (b) that I love time-travel dramas; (c) that my favorite drama in the world, The Myth, involves time-travel to the Qin Dynasty.

I am sure you can figure out the next step - I have decided to check out Step Into the Past, a 2001 TVB drama about a modern man who uses a time-machine to travel to Qin, but due to an error lands there 3 years earlier than his pick-up date and has to survive there for that period of time while trying to make sure history stays the same or else he might never get back. Look at it this way, buddy! At least you have a way back, unlike Hu Ge's character in The Myth.

Have a trailer, doesn't it look amazing?


A STEP INTO THE PAST(2001)
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Let's see if we go three-for-three with The Myth, Jade Palace Lock Heart and now this. I very much hope so.

In addition, ever since I fell in love with Hong Kong after we spent a week there last year, I've been hankering for a modern HK drama. Thus, I decided to check out a modern-day HK drama but most of the ones I seem to be able to find are police dramas - not my thing. Still, I'll be able to sit through one if it showcased HK a lot. So - any recs for HK present-day dramas?

Date: 2011-02-12 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] algelic.livejournal.com
Err... just how many dramas are you currently watching? O_o

Did you finish Taiyou no Uta? And Guilty?

Isn't it better to finish up some GOOD dramas before starting more potentially bad ones?

Date: 2011-02-13 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yup, finished TnU. I wasn't in the mood for Guilty so never started. Ditto for BB.

So as for now:

Dream High (Korea) - though that is sort of on hold until they straighten out the triangle
Gisaeng (Korea)
Jade Palace (China)

That's it, plenty of room. Though I really need to finish Endless Love too.

Date: 2011-02-12 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] algelic.livejournal.com
PS: I recommend you a Japanese drama (sorry I don't have any Chinese recs) called "Sunadokei" / Sand Chronicles. There was a movie about it, pretty good too. There are 60 episodes, each one is half an hour long. You can only find it subbed on Viki. IT'S VERY GOOD!

Date: 2011-02-13 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Ooooh, what is it about?

Date: 2011-02-12 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mookiehyun.livejournal.com
oh, u picked a decent one in A Step into the Past. It has flaws, but it's not bad, based on a 'new wave wuxia' novel by Huang Yi, who is nicked the new Louis Cha(the wuxia master of RoCH, LoCH...) I disagree, but his novels r breezy reads, there should be plenty of plot. Be warned, it's still 10 years old, and compared to the gorgeous C production nowadays as in Myth/Jade and the rest it shows.

I don't watch much HK modern dramas :X, the watchable ones r usu family epic ~ EoE, Giant(but so not nearly as good). There is not much OTP goodness, quite makjang.

If u r into touring HK again in drama form, there is this http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Romancing_Hong_Kong, and an MV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEj99OMZT8&feature=related it's not memorable, but I dun rem it as stabbity awful.

My HK friends r all addicted to Gem of Life when it's airing and said it's insanely addictive and awesome, 82 eps, I'm not touching it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gem_of_Life
and a promo snippet of what happend in first 2 eps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQFd919Hl7A

But too bad, I have no idea where to find subs for those.

Date: 2011-02-12 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fishncake.livejournal.com
Gem of Life... though I'm a fan of producer Chik Kei Yi, I started fast forwarding around episode 50 and stopped in 68. Afterward the character and plot just falls apart. But the earlier episodes is really good.

TVB are 'specialized' in making family epic (Korean chaebol family in equivalent). A lot of their blockbusters in 90's revolved around rich families with insanely addictive makjang plot.

Date: 2011-02-12 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mookiehyun.livejournal.com
yeah those grand anni TVB dramas r not the same, Rosy Business and No Regrets r watchable, but not as addictive as those 10+ yrs ago. they always start at an insanely fast pace, then DRAG.

I used to be a fan of Chik Kei Yi as well, but the TVB environment is not one encouraging much creativity nowadays.

Date: 2011-02-13 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
they always start at an insanely fast pace, then DRAG.



LOL, that means they are at least better than the long kdramas because those drag from the very end :)

Date: 2011-02-13 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I like old Taiwanese dramas so production values clearly mean little to me.

Gem of Life sounds good but at 82 eps, I am not watching it even if it has a religious revelation and rapture at the end :)

Btw, since you are my cdrama guru - is Legendary Warrior (薛仁贵传奇) any good - I found it with subs and it looks really tempting.

Date: 2011-02-12 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karened.livejournal.com
A Step Into The Past is probably one of the best Louis Koo dramas I've watched (with my fav pairing, though slightly ruined by Sonija's character). Glad you liked it too!

Since you like hk dramas and time travel, look out for Return To The Three Kingdom. It's time travel to the 3 Kingdom period. <3 And it stars Raymond Lam and Tavia Yeung (lol my fav pairing again!). WIll be out later this year!

Hk modern dramas....There's so many! But what type/genre etc are you most interested in? No police-themes...what about firefighters/doctors/lawyers/etc etc? =P

How about pre-modern?

A Fistful of Stances (Kenneth Ma, Kevin Cheng, Yuen Chiu etc) - revolves around the theme of family. The family scenes were really touching and we can see the bonds that hold the big family together. No serious in-house family fighting (the makjang style). =)

Date: 2011-02-13 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Ooooh, there is shipping in Step in the Past? Excited.

Return to Three Kingdoms sounds wonderful. Plus, mmmm, Raymond Lam (I liked Lofty Waters Verdant Bow). Hope it's going to be subbed!

Police dramas are fine actually, I just want to see some HK stuff.

AFoS sounds really good, just need to find subs.

Date: 2011-02-13 05:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karened.livejournal.com
Haha, I'm a LJ (Louis + Jessica Hsuan) fan!!

An old one, but perhaps a classic - Burning Flames II. DO NOT WATCH III. It turned the single face of this series (There are 3 dramas in the BF series, and one actor remained with it throughout) into a pathetic loser. I HATED IT ARGH..... In my opinion, BFII was the best of the three. You see character development, you see unexpected endings, you see very very touching father and daughter scenes...Although it's dated, you get the good old TVB people like Flora Chan and Maggie Cheung Ho Yee inside.

Another pre-modern that's up till now one of my favourites - Plain Love II starring Maggie Cheung Ho Yee and Gordon Lam. It was shot in China, so the scenery is breath-taking.

Date: 2011-02-13 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
They all sound nice so I need to see if there are subs. Why oh why do I not speak Mandarin or Cantonese?
Edited Date: 2011-02-13 04:27 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-02-13 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karened.livejournal.com
Oh, how could I have forgotten this one.

The King of Yesterday and Tomorrow
In this one, we see that short scene at the start of Gong explored. Yong Zhen (the 4th Prince!!!) travels from the Qing Dynasty to the Present. Along with Lu Si Niang, the assassin from the rebel society that was rumoured to have had a relationship with the King. Yong Zhen finds himself helping the son of a chaebol (lol....) try win the place of 'Crown Prince' in the company. EPIC!

Haha...

Er, this is where you rely on subbers! Not sure what subbing groups there are for cdramas though. =S

Date: 2011-02-13 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
That sounds utterly cracktastic :)

I have a loooooooooooooooooooooong list of cdramas I would love to watch if they were subbed.

Date: 2011-02-12 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fishncake.livejournal.com
A Step Into the Past is wonderful, too bad Louis Koo didn't film dramas anymore. Anyway, the story is adapted from a wuxia novel with the same title. Lol, the novel version is very x-rated... with a lot of beautiful ladies inside.

However, TVB series have declined in the last 10 years. Here is some recommended series, if you don't mind their age (some in 90's).

Modern series:
Greed of Men - A huge x3 classic series in 1992. Roller-coaster plot and definitely make you want to aim your shotgun at the antagonists + shouting at the TV.
At the Threshold of an Era I & II - It still garnered high ratings despite repeated airing in late night slots, enough said.
To Catch the Uncatchable - A comedy cop series, ala stand up comedy style.
Burning Flame trilogy - Story about firemen, but you can skip Part 3 :P The trilogy is not connected, each is new storyline/character.
Return of the Cuckoo - Tears inducing series, no matter how many times I rewatch.
Secret of the Heart
Revolving Doors of Vengeance

Costume/Period series:
Plain Love trilogy (Plain Love, Plain Love 2, Country Spirit). Again, each is a classic of its own and not connected.
War & Beauty - This classic series revived the genre of palace women/concubine fighting, started newer trend in Qing drama headpieces, costumes etc.
Where the Legend Begins - The story of Yan Fook (a beauty in Romance of Three Kingdom period) and her relationship with Cao Cao and his sons.

Date: 2011-02-12 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mookiehyun.livejournal.com
To Catch the Uncatchable is my fav TVB series fr last decade. :) I still lmao rewatching it. I wonder if the witty HK humor can translate though...

Date: 2011-02-13 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fishncake.livejournal.com
I've never watched the English subbed version, but I think non-Cantonese speaker will find it hard to understand the humor (plus a lot of Hong Kong lifestyle slang inserted).

p.s. Yeah, it's one of my disc collection!

Date: 2011-02-13 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Is Louis Koo the lead in it? I keep seeing his name around in period dramas in general. Never saw him in anything but if trailer for Past is anything to go by, he's a good--looking man.

Ooooh, thanks for all the recs!

Date: 2011-02-13 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ockoala.livejournal.com
Louis Koo was yet another incarnation of Yang Guo, if that helps explain his looks. :-)

1983 YG was Andy Lau.
1995 YG was Louis Koo.
2006 YG was Huang Xiaoming

(I'm totally pretending Richie Ren didn't masscre the character in his 1998 TW-version).

I like Louis, not the best actor, but always works for me.

re: Louis Koo

Date: 2011-02-13 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mookiehyun.livejournal.com
he's giving me so much laughs just w/ mention because of his viral yt vid. * in tears lmao*
http://youtu.be/Xx_XBHSigv4 hahahaha

Re: Louis Koo

Date: 2011-02-13 04:25 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-02-13 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fishncake.livejournal.com
From the list above, Louis is in At the Threshold of an Era I & II, Burn Flame 1.

Louis has never been cast as a main lead in family sagas, mostly 2nd or supporting character. He's mostly valued for his looks than acting, and during his peak, he starred more in action series (Burning Flame, DIF4) and romantic series (Man's Best Friend).

BUT... I do recommend watching his costume series, which is in his early acting career (and before he got that tanned look). He got his big break as Yang Guo in ROCH, but he filmed other wuxia series - I highly recommend Against the Blade of Honor, omg he is so so so so GORGEOUS there.

If you are interested in family saga, look for Gallen Lo. IMO, he's the best modern series actor TVB have in the past 2 decade. He got his big break playing (read: handsome evil) antagonist in family saga, and then filmed any genre you can name, including cross dressing role. No one can repeat his feat in portraying infamous hateful villains AND still get promoted to main leads.

Date: 2011-02-13 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I need sub for these *weeps into sleeve*

I've heard of Galen Lo - hmmmm, intrigued :)

Date: 2011-02-12 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coronanl.livejournal.com
Ah, that theme music brings me right back, I want to watch it again! (I never finished watching it all because it was so hard to find it and download back then, though I think I mentioned this already XD)


I love time travel stories, so you can't imagine how fun it is to have you on my flist ;D

Date: 2011-02-13 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Let me know if you need help with links :)

I loooooooooooooove time travel and we have two more dramas coming out on that this year!

My two cents...

Date: 2011-02-12 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spazzy06.livejournal.com
I haven't seen many Hong Kong dramas, but I'd recommend watching The Seventh Day. It's a very romantic HK drama (there's two awesome OTPs)and it's very korean drama-ish.(it has terminal illness, fate and pure love)The main OTP in the drama dated in real life at one time.


I don't know how to embed youtube videos, so I'd recommend checking out chocoxicevids on youtube. She made quite a few videos for the Seventh day and the main OTP. (Niki Chow and Kevin Cheng)


Last note: And If you want to see other HK drama reviews, I'd suggest checking out the site spcnet.tv. There are many user reviews for asian dramas on there. ^^

Re: My two cents...

Date: 2011-02-13 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I can't find her vids but doesn't matter. We have a winner ding ding ding. Got first ep already :)

Re: My two cents...

Date: 2011-02-13 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spazzy06.livejournal.com
Yay! I hope you enjoy the drama. :)

Date: 2011-02-12 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aentee.livejournal.com
Ahhh A Step Into the Past, one of the few times where I didn't ship the 'main' OTP. It was still a decent series though, I remember being very crazy about it when I was younger. Speaking of which, I should really try out The Myth!

HK drama... You should try War and Beauty if it's available? It's all palace intrique and women upstaging one another; it started off quite a trend in TVB dramas. And if you enjoyed that, you can also try A Dance of Passion - which basically has the same cast as War and Beauty, since the the former series was such a huge success.

Otherwise you can also try Twins of Brother - I find it one of the better executed of the more recent HK wuxia series (they teamed up with Mainland China for this production, iirc). One of the main romantic plot is so yawn-inducing and you'll want to FF through the entire thing - but the other half of the main plot is OK.

Present Day recs:
- Born Rich: Basically a makjang in disguise.
- Shades of Truth: Modern day reincarnations of characters from famous Chinese novel Water Margins meets. Hijinks ensues.
- Heart of Greed and its spin-off Moonlight Resonance was also hugely popular in HK... I personally don't see the appeal, but maybe I wasn't in the right mood to watch them? Both are family dramas, with inheritance issues etc.

Date: 2011-02-13 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I know where to get WaB with subs.

I liked the Nic Tse version of Twin of Brothers, or are you talking about the Jimmy Lin one (which I do want to get to).

Thanks for all the recs!

Date: 2011-02-13 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mookiehyun.livejournal.com
love WaB, the only tvb that is safe fr no dragging.... there r almost no innocents, but u know where they r coming fr. lots of brainy catfights. it's actually that drama that pd yu copied off, hit ratings jackpot, that he can keep blatantly doing the same thing and voila we have Jade! :)

I havent heard of the Cdrama 薛仁贵传奇, it'll be focusing on the hero and his path to greatness and many war fighting, i prefer my periods very crowded, more storylines tge better.

@ockoala, ohohhohhh I'm about to start Water Margin, have been itching for a while, i'm finally done w/ 3 kingdoms! Those 2 r my favs of the 4 classics

Date: 2011-02-13 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fishncake.livejournal.com
Twin of Brothers is not the same as the Handsome Siblings (Louis Cha novel). In fact, Twin of Brothers is adapted from Huang Yi's wuxia novel, which is the same author for A Step into the Past.

Date: 2011-02-13 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Oh, OK, got it, thanks :)

Date: 2011-02-13 01:45 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hong Kong drama...What can I say about them ? I guess HK drama's main quality is I feel their storyline are more into family the storyline is not centered on one boy and one girl but on a community, a family ect... Besides I tend to like some of their ancient dramas (too bad they don't make too much nowadays) which are less cheesy and which use less bad special effect than mainland. But there is something which bothers me on a shallow note : this is the appareance of their actor. I find it sooooo cliche you feel they reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally try hard to make them perfect or in sync with their characters' psyche (especially when the actor is Raymond Lam who is "The" man of his storyline). They are too TVB. The only one I think stands out the most (and weirdly she must be one of most hated TVB actress) this is Kate Tsui. Her vibe, her aura doesn't cry TVB (I think this is one of reason people don't like her too much). The first time I saw her in "the four" she was the only actress who intrigued me (she still does) and I could remember her (unlike for example Tavia Yeung or shirley yeung or charmaine sheh...).

Date: 2011-02-13 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Do the actors look weird?

Some of the family sagas sound tempting.

Date: 2011-02-13 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ockoala.livejournal.com
Water Margin 2011 looks breathtakingly epic.

Trailer Part 1 (with subs), you can find part 2 after you watch part 1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MraHpqPx5GI&feature=related

It's my favorite Book of the Four Classics (the other three being Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Dream of the Red Chamber, and Journey to the West).

Date: 2011-02-13 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
That looks beyond amazing. Now I am just going to cross my fingers for subs.

Thanks!

Date: 2011-02-13 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ockoala.livejournal.com
108 Outlaws, and lots and lots of manpain and a main cast of dozens and a budget that blows minds. Yeah, this should be AWESOME.

I've never ever finished reading WM the novel, just cuz it really is dense fare, but it's truly a masterpiece of literature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Margin

Anyways, I suggest brushing up on wiki before starting your watch, I'm going to have to do it as well, since I think the story is so sprawling with so many leads I'll be confused before long. A but of good reading of the novel synopsis and I'll be good to go. :-) Enjoy Step into the Past. One of the few HK dramas in the last decade I actually like.

Date: 2011-02-13 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I've seen a translation around and I will dig it up. I feel like something massive.

Loved the first ep of Step into the Past.

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