All I have to say about ep 18 of SG is

[dangermousie]

ILY, Writer!

If the writers of MSOAN were on some awful drugs, you are on some amazing ones!



There is something totally happy-making and unbearably cute about JW reverting to his 21-yr-old self, adorably bratty, and not remembering who Ra Im is (LOL, shouldn't she be hideously old to his 21 yr old self? But clearly not. This makes it even more delish - this is one noona romance I can solidly get behind :P) but still being obsessed with her and chasing after her and being his oddball wackadoodle self and Ra Im being amused and in love and going along with the lunacy and teasing him and telling he can do whatever because he's alive and reminding him of all their dating stuff and just so happy.

And he's a brat but such a sweet one.



And RI telling his Mom to back the hell away and asking "give me Joo Won, I'll take good care of him." LOLOLOL it's like what a guy would say to a girl's parent when asking for her hand in marriage. I love the gender reversals in this drama (side note - Momster, do it! Your son has got the mental health of a depressed hamster on LSD - Ra Im is the one thing that makes him emotionally whole).

I really like that this sort of situation happened - for one because it brings out all of RI's assertiveness and in a way she's the agressor now (but not too much, because memory loss and reversion or not, JW is still madly and monomanaically obsessed with her even when she has no idea who she is). Plus, JW is such a cute goofball as his 21-yr-old self.

Who is desperate to get handsy with this girl he doesn't consciously know :)



On a more serious note, first half of ep 18 did make me bawl and bawl, at least until magic daddy fixed stuff. You know, it all came full circle - Daddy might have saved JW but JW saved Daddy's daughter, and how. Perfect.

Also, Oska, you made me cry today with the way you were around Joo Won, and Ra Im-as-Joo Won and Joo Won-as-Ra Im. You are officially the best kdrama big brother ever. (You know, I realized it sort of spills over into stuff with Sun - Oska is a great big brother to bratty, abrasive, brilliant Joo Won, so he sort of assumes that role, almost unconsciously, to bratty, abrasive, brilliant Sun. That's probably why none of Sun's cracks really bug him - it's a dynamic he's comfortable in. Of course, JW doesn't want into his hyung's pants and Sun would loooooove to peel Oska's clothes off like an onion, but it's not like that's registering to our rather dim darling).

Comments

[lastingdreams8.livejournal.com]

I just wanted to drop in and say that I LOVE your icon ;)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I love Black and White

[angelic-junk.livejournal.com]

Fighting with my inner selves on whether he's just acting (at least in the last scene) or not (meaning he really lost his memory of her). But then, I'm liking the "really losing it" since omg, this guy really loves her! And it's not just some magic by the father~

Ra-im should give retribution to Joowon~ I'd like that in bed. I'm sure Joowon wouldn't fight it~~~ hahaha.

[angelic-junk.livejournal.com]

Retribution... I meant that gesture nudging her head when he didn't recognise her... He could do anything now with RI forgiving him since he's alive... but girl! Ask for more lololol =)) Push it push it!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I think he really lost his memory - otherwise there's no way he'd be able to hide it, not after he thought he lost her for good/died.

Yes - she should totally show him what she means in bed. It's not like she hasn't seen all of him already :)

[(Anonymous)]

I was soooo relieved by this ep. I'm fonctionning again, yay!

I agree with you about the gender reversals. It's refreshing. The men are still the men, and the women the women, but Seul is awfully strong and RI is strong too (and getting stronger and stronger by JW side. It is nice to see her BLOOM from her old self always apologizing. "Mis Chweso hamnida"...) They are the one who lead the way...

As I saw the ep RAW I missed all the meanings but JW was a cutty nonetheless. And Oska: he won the crow of King of the Hyungs of the "Hyungivers"!!!! I love him !

Emma (completely obsessed -- planning to buy the DVD))

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yup, I like the men aren't beta wimps (can't stand that) but the women are awesomely strong - I love that RI is finally telling evil mom where to get off.

[seven-trees.livejournal.com]

Not reading not reading not reading. Oh man, I'm dying for the next ep. Once again, screw subs. I'm going for recaps.

[seven-trees.livejournal.com]

I had no idea they were gonna go for an amnesia storyline so when they went there I automatically went FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. But I ended up being pleasantly surprised. It probably has to do with the fact that, as you said, even without knowing who she is JW is still completely obsessed with RI.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I find amnesia is like any other plotline actually - good if done well (e.g. Save the Last Dance), bad if done badly (BOF).

This is just adorable.

[seven-trees.livejournal.com]

I don't know. I'm very picky about my amnesia plots because they almost always involve massive amounts of angst. But THIS. Come on, he loses his memory and STILL acts like a lovesick puppy. It was the best thing ever!

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Ne brought all that food to the hospital! And was pleased she hugged him due to his tracksuit nuttiness.

Hmm, but I wonder. He still doesn't remember RI's dad died saving him. I wonder if he's going to be devastated when he remembers - if he's mentally 21 that's all really immediate to him now.

Also, hmmm, if he's back to 21, doesn't mean there's no time for elevator phobia to develop yet?

[seven-trees.livejournal.com]

I'm just endlessly amused that he started wearing the blue tracksuit again. You just KNOW that one was his absolute favorite. I'm dying for him to see some bowling team or something start to use it as their formal uniforms. He's gonna be crushed.

I wonder if he's going to be devastated when he remembers - if he's mentally 21 that's all really immediate to him now.

I imagine that's gonna cause a problem in the next episodes. He's gotta find out eventually and, this being a drama and all, I'm sure the writers are gonna milk it for all its potential angst.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I think JW has had enough angst courtesy of ep 17 to cover the rest of the drama but I bet the writers don't agree with me. It's hard enough to come to terms with someone dying to save you and that someone being your gf's father, when you have 13 years to distance yourself, consciously or not. If it all happened weeks ago in your head - ouch.

The tracksuit - it just won't die. LOLOLOLOLOL. That's one upside to his amnesia - he doesn't remember how his precious was sullied :)

And he's finally found a woman to appreciate it :)

[paatriiing.livejournal.com]

AGHHH I said I wouldn't read spoilers because jacinda is subbing pretty quick and I won't have to have something to tide me over but I couldn't help it! Drat these dramas we get so obsessed with!

Oh evil mom, pls pop a pill and deal with it.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Evil mom needs a shrink of her own

[epyc01.livejournal.com]

The only missing piece of the puzzle is JW's memory of that accident 13 years ago. I can now safely put my money that it will come back - in the same way as the writer did in City Hall's phone call from 5 years back - that JW indeed had a face-to-face counter with RI's dad just before he died. And the dad got JW's promise of looking after his daughter after his death. That promise was locked away then... but now gets unlocked beautifully as our OTP are fated to love each other. Something I look forward to seeing in Ep 20 probably after the credit rolls (just like CH).

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yes. I bet that is why he thought of name GRI - a promise he made to her father when they were trapped. He must have seen her at the hospital - that's why he was saying 'the face looks familiar only somewhat..." I bet he was going to say 'older.'

[cleobulle.livejournal.com]

Secret Garden is so perfect. It's got everything: a love story greater than life, tender moments, judiciously applied angst, really funny scenes, interesting characters all around and not just the leads, chemistry out of this world, great actors, beautiful cinematography and music. PERFECT.

And how awesome is it that the writers can make such a cliched thing as amnesia rock so much? 21 yr-old JW is priceless. Now that I've seen the last 2 episodes, I understand better why you felt the need for an ep 1 rewatch. Boy, the writers really knew what they were doing. I love the fact that it's made so clear to us that RI is THE ONE, no matter the circumstances. It's a bit like she's been placed on this earth just for JW.

Ep 17 and 18 really took us on a roller-coaster: we bawled like babies, we laughed, we smiled. How can a drama be so good to us? I'm almost 100% sure that the last 2 episodes will be pure goodness as well. It can't be otherwise. I'm buying this drama as soon as it comes out on dvd. I rarely do so because box sets are so exepensive but I can't not show my appreciation for SG.

But now I wonder what will happen in the last 2 episodes. It almost felt like it could end at episode 18 + a short epilogue. I hope we won't be put through the wringer again. My heart won't be able to take it. I'm guessing that during the elevator rescue RI's dad made JW promise that he'll protect RI since he wouldn't be there for her anymore. Maybe he had time to show him a picture and that's why JW was so fixated on RI at first? She might have seemed familiar.

BTW, have you heard of DarkSmurfSub.com? Just in case you haven't, they provide ultra fast subs for all the major airing dramas. For SG or My Princess it takes less than 24hrs and sometimes only half a day for the subs to be available. It's a community project, that's why everything is so fast. Quality isn't as great as WithS2 or even Viikii but it's perfectly watchable and understandable and it's great to have them while waiting for the "official" subs: http://www.darksmurfsub.com

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

This is so very perfect. I love this drama so much. I wonder if JW is going to remember RI's father's death and get depressed? Hmmm. even if so, Ra Im is going to hang on like a limpet, which makes me happy.

Your theories make so much sense.

Thanks for DS heads-up!

[cleobulle.livejournal.com]

You're welcome for the subs!

I think the writers will need some sort of conflict because they still have 2 hours fill and I hope it won't be centered on JW's mom. After cheating death, how prosaic would it be that the only obstacle remaining ends up being a cranky delusional mother? What a let down it would be.

So JW angsting over RI's dad is certainly a possibility of conflict. To round things up the matter has to come up again, if only to have RI tell JW that she loves him anyway.

And maybe something revolving around RI's work? Hot!Boss kind of avoided the issue by saying that she shouldn't get injured anymore but I'm not sure what JW will say when his memory comes back. It would be hell for him to see her put herself in danger like that after what happened to her. Perhaps a compromise with no car/motor stunts involved?

What I'm crossing fingers for is that this "amnesia comedy" thing isn't the short lull before the storm (another one, lol) and a depressing ending with them not together after all. So much can happen in two episodes--as demonstrated with eps 17 & 18. I'm still reeling from the whiplash.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I agree, they are going to bring all of JW's memory back - I really want RI to tell him it's all OK. Poor woobie.

I am pretty sure they can neutralize the mom by getting grandpa on their side. I think marrying JW will be fine (even if I thought RI would be miserable earlier). For one thing, she knows how much he loves her and she loves him, but also it's not as if they have to see much of his family - JW can keep momster away except an occasional family dinner. Plus, they are going to have Oska and Seul (who I am sure will be Mrs Oska pretty soon) on their side and does anyone want to mess with Seul the Scary Bitch? I don't think so.

I too hope she'll give up car stunts - otherwise JW will just have to tie her up in the house or something.

[cleobulle.livejournal.com]

Yes, JW's grandpa has been underused so far so I wouldn't be surprised if they brought him back in the last two episodes to neutralize Momster.

About Seul/Oska, lol, I agree. Nobody better get in Seul's way. I'm so glad she's not the typical secondary girl. And I can see both mothers from hell commiserating together after their sons dumped them to marry the women they love.

And also I agree about the marriage thing. Now that they've been to hell (literally, by almost dying) and back, RI and JW know how deeply they're loved and would be able to make their own way in life.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I love mothers from hell - maybe they can finally get close with each other over the iniquity of their children (I don't know if you watched preview for ep 19, but Oska's mom is not happy due to his choice of Seul and Seul is totally unfazed. LOL).

Yes, I think a big problem prior to the 'die for you' stuff would have been RI not being sure of how much he really loved her, due to her self-worth issues. But now no matter what, she knows not to doubt it.

Btw, did you see people saying it wasn't much of a sacrifice for JW because they'd switch back next time it rains? WTF! Not only do they not know when the magic will run out and also RI's body can die any time, in her condition, but clearly he wanted RI to stay out of the rain forever and thus for him to be trapped in her body forever. Ah, nitpicky fandom drives me nuts sometimes.

[cleobulle.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I actually almost fell off my chair when I went trolling on the web to read about SG and found out that many people did not like it, including some bloggers who usually like the same dramas I do. Made me kind of sad.

I haven't seen the criticism about it being not much of a sacrifice (are they nuts? It's as big a sacrifice there can be, especially for someone like JW!) but I've seen plenting of whining about lack of continuity and WTFuckery. Personally, I can't see it and I'm enjoying the ride to the max.

I can totally see both momsters getting close over that! They'll go see their doctor together to get some prescription. lol. Grandpa will frolick around with his bride while JW and Oska run the business. HEA.