LOCH ep 11

May. 30th, 2010 10:14 am
dangermousie: (BSG: Helo/Athena by lyssie)
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Oh God, those awful obnoxious 'teachers' of Guo Jing appeared again. I thought we were rid of them forever. Every time I see them, I want to strangle them. Their reaction to seeing him (and he's all beaten up to hell) is go "why weren't you here earlier, who cares if you are majorly wounded, go practice, ugh ugh you suck." Stop picking on my Guo Jing, losers! He could kick the butt of all six of you put together. Ugh. Hate. Thankfully, Huang Rong agrees with me and sticks up for her guy and points out their lunacy.




I love that girl. I was cracking up right along with Guo Jing when she was all "I am going to protect you" but she isn't going to let anyone mess with him, LOL. Even if she is half his size - the scene where she kicked the crap out of Yang Kang because he beat up Guo Jing earlier (he's still in his Rebel Without A Cause phase and Guo Jing wouldn't fight back) - I love that scene to bits!



Well, look on the bright side, Yang Kang. You got some sexy forbidden stepsibling touching out of it.



But back to Huang Rong. Girl is FIERCE. Clearly, Guo Jing's transparent lies about what happened (I love how he tries to conceal what happened because he doesn't want her to go off, awwww) did not work. LOL.



How adorable ARE they? I love love that they are such a perfect match - he is the best fighter in this drama but he DOES need someone to protect him and take care of him because he is too kind and sweet - he'd put up with a lot and let people walk all over him because he loves them. So he needs the cynical, bright, fierce Huang Rong to watch over him. And she needs him to make her human.



I continue to adore Ouyang Ke. His mind games with Yang Kang (to get him to come back to the Jins) were not only clever, I agreed with him on a lot of it - I do believe the man who brought you up for 18 years, with love, is more of a father than one that just gave the biological material.



Freaking FINALLY! I was getting a bit fed-up with Yang Kang's acting out - I don't blame him and understand him but I didn't like that it was hurting Guo Jing and am glad YK is beginning to realize that Guo Jing really IS that good and he does mean what he says. (interesting parallel with Huang Rong. Guo Jing, winning the world through kindness :)) Yeah, he can't go back to his sneering after seeing Guo Jing almost die protecting him. Go be sworn brothers, dorks, like you are supposed to!



Sometimes I just want to take Guo Jing somewhere far away and protect him from the mean people and mean world - he is so emotionally open that it hurts sometimes (the whole scene where he didn't care about an audience and tried to get through to YK how lucky he is to meet his father because he, GJ, never would - ouch.)

Date: 2010-05-30 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Am I the only one who thinks Huang rong and Ouyang ke have chemistry ? I like their interractions so so so much. I like HR and GJ ones too but HR and OK is so delicious !

Date: 2010-05-30 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I find the actress acting as Mu niancy is not so good. She has two expressions : empty look and empty awkward look. I think I like the 2003 version more than here. I think maybe because Mu's character has never really interested me unlike characters like Huang Rong, Guo Jing or Yang kang or even Ouyang Ke... I think the only interesting about her is her relationship with Yang Kang. Yang Kang Guo Jing or Huang Rong maybe appealing alone but this is not the case of Mu.

Date: 2010-05-31 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I like her. Not as much as I do HR but I adore HR.

Date: 2010-05-31 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
You are not alone. I think they are awesome together.

GJ's personality

Date: 2010-05-30 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ockoala.livejournal.com
dangermousie, I think our sweetie pie Guo Jing is going to be juuuuuust fine (heck, more than fine, really, you still remember on what top of the totem pole he's at in RoCH, right?). There is a saying in Chinese that "stupid people have their own stupid luck" and it applies to GJ completely. I know it hurts that folks call him stupid, but even he concedes that he is not the brightest bulb in the shed. But he has many many qualities that are impossible to learn (such as honesty, compassion, loyalty) that is all balances out in the universe.

It's really hard for us to assess how GJ would have reacted were he in YK's shoes. The issues is that GJ seems to see things in black and white. Jin people = bad bc they are invaders in the Song dynasty, and GJ and YK are Song citizens. So, personal feelings shouldn't matter to GJ, loyalty to country should come first. YK is a person who is TOO smart to buy into that hogwash, he seems things in grays and blues.

The characterizations in LoCH are worth pages and pages of dissection and discussion. It's so good! :-)

Oh, and OYK has mad chemistry with both HR and MNC in this version, bc he's also a uber-cool character construct (rather than a shifty, would-be rapist predator in the novel).

Re: GJ's personality

Date: 2010-05-31 12:07 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I agree about HR but if you mean Oyang Ke has chemistry with Mu Niancy I don't know but through the episodes I saw they both hardly have any scene together. OYK does not even care about girl.

Re: GJ's personality

Date: 2010-05-31 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I know he is going to be fine but I still feel ridiculously protective - he is just so open and sweet I can't help but adore him so.

I think GJ's head would have exploded in YK's circumstances - I don't think he could process anything complex like that. I mean, feelings are feelings, and knowing GJ he would have wholeheartedly bought into Jin=best if he was a Jin.

I do feel bad for him growing up with such a desire for a father. Awwww. (One of the few things he has in common with Yang Guo, actually).

YK's attitude and conflict feel very modern to me and I really love what Oyuang Ke brings up about the situation (even if he is motivated by self-interest). LOCH is just so meaty - not just gorgeous scenery and fights.

I love OK btw.

Re: GJ's personality

Date: 2010-05-31 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ockoala.livejournal.com
Sorry, Sorry (cue SJ song) - I jumped ahead of meself, and your watch position. Everything I said was true (about OYK and MNC having good chemistry), you just haven't gotten there yet. But I won't want to say how or why to spoil it for you. The C-netizans actually shipped OYK-MNC over YK-MNC (I couldn't believe it myself, until I watched LoCH and could understand why that coupling would appeal to certain folks).

My hubby, who never watched any version of LoCH or read the novels (hell, he doesn't watch dramas, period!), liked OYK and Wangyan Honglie best in this version (the few eps he watched with me).

He thought WYHL was a patriot, and OYK was a smart, resourceful guy. I loved hearing his input, bc I'm predisposed to not liking WYHL and OKY, but if I were to go into this version of LoCH without any baggage, I can see why their characters are way more likeable than supposed "good guys" like GJ's 7 doofasoid masters and the Taoist monks.

Even with my OYK baggage, I still loved this OYK, and that is 100% due to Li Jia's acting and portrayal.

Re: GJ's personality

Date: 2010-05-31 02:35 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Yes Li Jia is a good actor. He acts the emperor in young warriors of the yang clan with Hu Gue and Yuang Hong too. He is so good that at first I didn't recognised him. The vibe is so different I even think he changed a bit his voice to fit the emperor personnality.

Re: GJ's personality

Date: 2010-05-31 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I wasn't the one commening about OYK/MNC upthread but I can well believe they will have chemistry, this OYK has chemistry with anyone.

You see, I've never read LOCH nor am I familiar with it at all and so without the book comparison, I love Honglie and OYK more than I do anyone in the story except the main four. And as for Honglie - just as Songs view it as patriotic to off Jins, I can't blame Honglie for thinking it's good to off Songs.

Date: 2010-05-30 11:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] village.livejournal.com
Did somebody say forbidden stebsibling touching? Where do I sign up? lol.

Date: 2010-05-31 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
LOLOLOL Yes. One of two otps in this are stepsiblings which they don't realize when they first meet. Aaaaaaangst (and foot-washing, dude has a major foot fetish).

Date: 2010-05-31 01:19 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] village.livejournal.com
That sounds delish! *seal clap* Nothing brings the angst like fauxsibling/stepsibling love. Whee. I'm so not in the mood for a wuxia right now but I'm so tempted to watch this.

Date: 2010-05-31 12:01 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I don't like the way they made Yang Kang tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo gentle (I am in episode 16). It reminds me the way they made Domyoji character a sissy crybaby unthreatning man in BOF. I think it waste the spicy side of the drama and Yang Kang Mu Niancy relationship. It is so odd looking at YK suddendly throwing the education he recieved as a Jin (plus they are known to be patriote)and living as a "goody" vagrant (officially it does not fit him)and gueninely bonding with GJ (at the origin Yang Kang only use "stupid" boy and is not sincere concerning his feeling toward his sworn brother). I know Yuan Hong can act as a brat heartless boy (and he showed it very well in the first episodes where I wanted to kill him). But the writer just wast YK's character only to make him more "lovable". Don't get me wrong I have nothing against layered portraying of a character but here it is so not abusive Yang Kang !

Date: 2010-05-31 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Awwww, I like it actually. (Unlike Gu Jun Pyo who just irritated me). But I understand to each her/his own.

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