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dangermousieI am on ep 9 and there are all sorts of complicated plot developments but all I can think of is "Let me help you with your identity crisis, oh hottest foot fetishist to ever exist!"
Seriously. Man.
I need to find out what else Yuan Hong has been in and if there are subs, it's off to the races!
ETA: Seriously though, I think his mother is mental. A+++ idea, genius, to tell your grown-up son that his father is not his father, his name is not his name, and he is actually a descendant of blood enemies of people he views as family. I mean - brilliant. What could possibly go wrong? Either she should have told him from childhood or kept her mouth shut forever, IMO. This isn't an 'do it on impulse' type of revelations :P And she did it in front of a crowd of palace people so it can't be hushed up and as the son is begging her not to continue. Clearly, a forward thinker, that woman.
ETA2: If anyone else mentions the horror the horror of Yang Kang's mother becoming a Jin princess, I will be tempted to crawl into my screen to throttle them. OMG, how could she! Her husband freaking died, she is a pregnant widow. A peasant pregnant widow in poor health. A freaking Prince offers to marry her and raise her son as his own heir and he takes good care of them all this time. But OMG, he is from a clan that is an enemy of her husband's clan. She totally should have starved to death with her baby instead! Seriously, just shut up.
Seriously. Man.
I need to find out what else Yuan Hong has been in and if there are subs, it's off to the races!
ETA: Seriously though, I think his mother is mental. A+++ idea, genius, to tell your grown-up son that his father is not his father, his name is not his name, and he is actually a descendant of blood enemies of people he views as family. I mean - brilliant. What could possibly go wrong? Either she should have told him from childhood or kept her mouth shut forever, IMO. This isn't an 'do it on impulse' type of revelations :P And she did it in front of a crowd of palace people so it can't be hushed up and as the son is begging her not to continue. Clearly, a forward thinker, that woman.
ETA2: If anyone else mentions the horror the horror of Yang Kang's mother becoming a Jin princess, I will be tempted to crawl into my screen to throttle them. OMG, how could she! Her husband freaking died, she is a pregnant widow. A peasant pregnant widow in poor health. A freaking Prince offers to marry her and raise her son as his own heir and he takes good care of them all this time. But OMG, he is from a clan that is an enemy of her husband's clan. She totally should have starved to death with her baby instead! Seriously, just shut up.
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Date: 2010-05-28 08:12 pm (UTC)Yuan Hong's best performances was in the Young Yang's Clan, where he played the chief antagonist, but stole the show from Hu Ge, Peter Ho, gosh, just everybody (this is undisputed, you google reviews, its all about Yuan Hong's performance as Yelu Xie, a Liao General).
Link to the MV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGyt3fMLN0M
YH was so HOT in Yang's Clan (and cool, man was he cool), it only makes his performance as the young, arrogant but confused Yang Kang so much more mindboggling.
Anyways, Yuan Hong and Liu Shishi are reuniting for Clothing (the) World. We've been waiting for this drama for 6 months now! It's airing this summer. And YH plays a Song General and LSS plays a Song Princess, and the third person in the love triangle is Janine Chang.
Huang Xiao-ming is super goodlooking and a good actor, but Yuan Hong is a superb actor. Love them both!
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Date: 2010-05-28 08:24 pm (UTC)I was looking YH on drama wiki and saw the clothing drama. I hope viikii will sub it because otherwise I am out of luck :(
And yes, I will gladly join you and mookie. I had no idea who YH was going in but now I am pretty close to obsessed.
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Date: 2010-05-28 08:52 pm (UTC)and I just have to dig this BTS pic out fr Clothes (that shocking pink earpiece is bday gift fr LSS/NianChi)
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3156/930f13ce54cb7403b700c85.jpg
Have a great long wkend! ;) Oh, and I bet ockoala and I will be back to hyperventilate w/ u VERY SOON (in a few eps?!)
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Date: 2010-05-28 08:58 pm (UTC)I am seriously seriously obsessed.
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Date: 2010-05-28 09:59 pm (UTC)I think a little historical perspective will help abate the rage here - in the Song dynasty, a group of 'ethicists' (I hesitate to call them philosophers, they're really Confucian scholars with sexist bees in their bonnets, but I digress) expanded upon the five basic tenets of behaviour in Confucian theory. For women, this meant that they were in the golden age of oppression - it started out with the triangular support system that they were supposed to rely on - father, husband, son, and any woman who was, you know, well-brought-up was taught to be meek, to obey at all costs, and maintain piety. (Filial or familial.) In fact, when talking about widows, one of the most prominent proponents of neo-Confucianism said, "It is better to die than to behave improperly."
In this case, meaning that Bao Xiruo is actually meant to be a Confucian woman, ergo, refuse all the Prince's advances and wear her widow's weeds with pride. (Err, yeah. I don't agree with any of that crap, but that's screwed up societal expectations for you.)
And I don't know how well the translations say this, but the Jin prince actually purposefully attacked the village with the intention of killing her husband and grabbing her away as his war booty. Sooooo...
(I find it uber frustrating that neither one of them actually sits down and talks to each other like rational adults, but that's a problem common to all sorts of shows, so I can't exactly complain without major hypocrisy here.)
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Date: 2010-05-29 12:48 am (UTC)Oh, I know that about the Jin Prince but I don't think Xiruo did until hubby returned. But even if she did know, I still wouldn't blame her because she ensured a better life for her child - not having your kid starving in the gutter is a good thing. But then I am someone who'd be all for staying in the palace as a royal instead of wandering around without means of support so clearly am not following the same code :P
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Date: 2010-05-29 12:47 am (UTC)eta: sorry for the caps, I got overexcited.
eta again: I haven't been on lj in a few days so I didnt know you started watching LOCH! YAY!
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Date: 2010-05-29 12:49 am (UTC)Also, I finally get why you like Hu Ge!
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Date: 2010-05-29 01:11 am (UTC)I think someone told me in my YW posts that his hats are made of real fox fur or something. Eeek.
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Date: 2010-05-29 03:10 am (UTC)Has Hu Ge ever been in a modern drama? Am curious.
I really must get to Little Fairy soon. I have shiny official dvds and all.
Re: fox fur. I am used to fur clothes (growing up in Russia) so that doesn't bother me :) I wonder where on earth they got it though.
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Date: 2010-05-29 06:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-29 12:53 pm (UTC)I can help answer that :)
Date: 2010-05-31 10:23 am (UTC)you can find more info :
http://www.spcnet.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=13746
http://asianfanatics.net/forum/topic/176723-till-death-do-us-part/
I don't exactly recommend this drama, it starts off "cute," but then spirals into a lot of depressing melancholy, & not the kind of angst that you like, At least I don't think. Vivian Hsu is pretty adorable in it though, like she is in real life, and is Hu Ge's OTP. (my god, is she gorgeous to look at, they made a cute couple).
I didn't really watch the whole thing, just bits and pieces as it was airing on tv, so I caught a few scenes here and there, out of curiosity. Kept changing the channel bcuz the pacing was too slow for me, but might be better for you, idk. But do know that a lot it is FF-worthy.
It's possibly a mainland chinese production since it has a lot of those people in the show, so you won't really know a lot of the people in it. But Xie Na, appears in it (a bit part). she's Huazheng in The Legend of the Condor Heroes... you'll see her later, I think she appears as Hu Ge's Mongolian(?) bride/fiance later on in the series.
That's what's awesome about azn shows, you'll always see friends appearing in different shows together. Xie Na and He Jio (she in the hat, he in the green jacket) are both hosts on 快乐大本营 (Happy camp) and both appear in the show, they are both really good friends with Hu Ge, and were there / supported Hu Ge during his recovery from his car accident. But this is going into tangent territory so I'll stop here.
If you are curious you can check it out, if not at least you know :)
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Date: 2010-05-31 05:36 pm (UTC)Thank you for the info!
Re: I can help answer that :)
Date: 2010-06-01 04:46 am (UTC)Smart girl, the MVs gives you the best scenes and leaves out all the boredom. I did the same thing when deciding to commit how many 20 hours to watch this. & then decided not to.
No problem, glad I could help (^^)v
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Re: I can help answer that :)
Date: 2010-06-01 01:13 pm (UTC)Re: I can help answer that :)
Date: 2010-06-01 05:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-30 01:36 am (UTC)My loverboy in a fur hat
Date: 2010-05-29 02:00 am (UTC)I need to tell you that mookie and I FF-ed every scene Yuan Hong was NOT in in Young Yang's Clan. We hate Peter Ho (with a passion), but the Hu Ge scenes are fine, and worth watching if you like him. I like HG, but I was pretty much so obsessed with Yuan Hong that I couldn't wait to get to his next scene.
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Date: 2010-05-29 03:07 am (UTC)I honestly do not get the popularity. He makes me think of Ryu Shiwon (sorry if you are a fangirl) - an unattractive, uncharismatic man with no acting ability who is inexplicably a star.
I am definitely checking out Yang Clan - I love my ff button :)
Re: My loverboy in a fur hat
Date: 2010-05-29 03:46 am (UTC)Which is also why everyone beats Yang Kang over his head for considering staying a Jin Prince,its a double betrayal because of WHO Yang Kang is, a descendant of the most patriotic family in the Song dynasty. No one blinks an eye that Guo Jing was raised by Mongolians.
Re: My loverboy in a fur hat
Date: 2010-05-29 04:00 am (UTC)I don't blame Xiruo for thinking what she does (though I am not fond of her overall - too much weeping) and Tiexin did try to be selfless and leave her in the palace but yes - my modern sensibilities do not see Confucian nobility, they just want to yell at him "dead-beat jerk!" LOL.
Which is also why everyone beats Yang Kang over his head for considering staying a Jin Prince,its a double betrayal because of WHO Yang Kang is, a descendant of the most patriotic family in the Song dynasty.
I am more amused how anyone (except for GJ who is adorably dim so I don't blame him) thinks that the second YK finds out his true birth he should jump at it and happily reject everything he's been brought up to believe ever. Clearly psychology wasn't a big topic of study back then :)
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Date: 2010-05-29 04:10 am (UTC)Anyways, yeah, it's pretty hilarious how everyone thinks YK should go hug a stranger call him daddy and walk away without a backward glance. (though, in the novel, Wangyan Honglie is way more evil and one-note bad bad baddie, here, again, he's given a more revisionist graying approach rather than black-white).
But this daddy issue is dealt with and handled very well (differently than in the), but both work with the character constructs. I like it in this version a lot. :-)
I think that LoCH being one of Louis Cha's first novels, he was more writing in black and white character constructs, with a few oddities here and there. Then LC went and started down the anti-hero slope little by little, leading to his final novel and masterpiece, Duke and the Cauldron (or Duke of Mount Deer), which has a 100% anti-hero (actually, your beloved Huang Xiaoming played the lead, it was called Royal Tramp 2008).
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Date: 2010-05-29 04:18 am (UTC)I know! They all seem to think he is horrible for not doing that - I am wondering if they've only been around wolves all their life :) Even if Honglie was bad guy as he is supposed to in the book - even then. I'd imagine unless he beat YK every night and locked him up in the cellar, it would be pretty hard to give up the only life and family you've ever known.
Well, I suppose subtleties of human behavior escape darling Guo Jing, and Huang Rong is not the most empathetic. Nianci - well, she does seem a lot less vehement than the other two (and she was the one brought up by Tiexin - who had no problems running off on her and leaving her in GJ's care btw. Some father figure!) so I am cutting her slack. Maybe she should calm Yang Kang down by letting him give her a foot bath. :P
(actually, your beloved Huang Xiaoming played the lead, it was called Royal Tramp 2008).
You really shouldn't have told me that - I was planning on sleeping some time this month :)
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Date: 2010-05-30 01:01 am (UTC)Besides I read that in the original story Yang Guo is not supposed to be Mu's son but he is the son of a girl who were raped by Yang Kang (which is a deep a.....e). Obviously Yang Guo is the result of this rape and Mu Nianci takes care of Yang Guo's mother. I think the author should keep this storyline.
PS : can someone tell me what happened to Guo Jing parents ? They disappeared like that...
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Date: 2010-05-30 01:36 am (UTC)em...that was the earliest edition plot, Louis Cha made a revision of the Mom of YG arc quite early on some 30+ years ago. Personally I like NianChi to be YG's mom. She'll be totally too pathetic to not only fall for her rapist (yup, that's the original NC/YK storyline) but raising her rapist child fr ANOTHER rape.
See I hate the total dark evilness of the novel YK, it made NC totally a weaksauce to fall for him no matter what and all her sacrifaces for a rapist/scumbag?! I cant go w/ that, esp when she's supposedly this morally righteous patriotic woman.
I do feel very bad for YK there, but it's more his mom's fault. She's been insisting of living in her original house she's lived w/ Yang Shin, transported all the way fr their village, so I totally buy her wanting to run back to him when she found him still alive, but she's not wise and quick enough a woman to consider all the mental damages she has inflicted on her son by being this passive, submissive thing avoiding the truth.. when the truth hits, she did nth to prepare her son. Shame on her!
But that's also the argument of whether children should belong to their biological parents or the parents who reared them. It's still a debatable issue here, let alone back then let alone the wuxia world...when blood is blood. Honor and country is above your existence.
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Date: 2010-05-30 02:30 pm (UTC)YK's mother is totally useless. How hard was it to try to tell him the truth earlier?
But that's also the argument of whether children should belong to their biological parents or the parents who reared them.
See, I believe the latter and so my views are strongly colored by that. Baby Mousie is my biological child but I think what really makes me her mother is the thousands of diapers I have changed and thousands of meals I provided and hugging her to sleep.
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Date: 2010-05-30 02:30 pm (UTC)I am glad they left out all the raping. Eeeek.
My loverboy is in a fur hat..and he reads me Catcher in the Rye and Gulag Archipelago
Date: 2010-05-29 09:13 pm (UTC)I hate YH's mom but mostly I hate his all righteous Daoist monk Sifu... that dude has ALL his priority crooked yet he thought he's this WuLin hero honoring the code. He thought YH is not proper enough for his wuxia, and yet he let him be his spoiled prince in the Jin palace ALL THESE YEARS!
Fr the bk, we cant like Jin Prince dad, what maybe viewed as loving parenting to us was not the case then... A daddy's duty was to nurture his son into a patriotic confucius man before feeding or providing shelter...what Jin Prince did to YK was spoiling him rotten and that's a worse offense than RealDad not looking for them. It's still the days when Dads can honor kill off their offsprings if they r not confucius enough for their liking and hailed by the village for the deed.
Re: My loverboy is in a fur hat..and he reads me Catcher in the Rye and Gulag Archipelago
Date: 2010-05-30 02:35 pm (UTC)I understand that Honglie may be a bad dad by those standards but by mine he's a-ok.