Chuno ep 20

[dangermousie]

After watching ep 20 of Chuno, two things are official:

1. Song Tae Ha has just become my favorite drama character ever. (Well, actually he is tied for first place with Kim Hyun Joon from IRIS, another wounded good guy fighter. Clearly I have a type).

2. If they do not have him happy at the end, with Un Nyun as his loving wife and about a dozen little kids running around to teach weaponry and to spoil, I am going to fly to Korea to have...words...with the writer. Violent, painfully sharp words.



I totally have a huge thing for aristocrat/slave OTP and Chuno is like a smorgasbrod of this. Beside DG/UN, the whole thing with Tae Ha and Un Nyun hits that kink in about ten different ways because he is a former super-high aristocrat (Crown Prince's BFF and all) made into a slave and she is a runaway slave who became an aristocrat and it goes round and round and round and the sheer wonderfulness of it makes me incoherent.

When he tells her "Un Nyun or Hye Won, you are still my wife", I thought I was going to DIE!!!!! And look at the look on her face! And then he tells her if they have a son, they should name him Tae Won (for Tae Ha and Hye Won, like the name she came up with as little Prince's camouflage). OMGOMGOMG they are the most amazing sweetest darlings and no harm is allowed to come to them!











ARE YOU MELTING YET?????





OK, I still love you, Dae Gil. Sorry, sweetie!

This scene made me tear up.





This was wonderful and angsty too. I love the way DG loves Un Nyun - he'd die without a second thought if it would make her happy for a minute. And clearly despite her genuine love for Tae Ha, she is struggling with the duality of her feelings too - after all, she loved DG madly and the only way she was able to move on and fall in love again was because she believed he was dead. And now he's alive and her feelings are rekindling. But she loves her husband too! Argh, poor woman.

















One of the things that both galls DG and brings him huge comfort at the same time is that the man Un Nyun has chosen is so manifestly a good, honorable, even heroic man - an idealist and a capable fighter and basically nothing that DG could look down on. I actually love DG and TH's interactions a lot. Because they are both learning - TH letting go of his ingrained class system beliefs. He may be an aristocratic ideal, but he is a 17th-century Confusian aristocratic ideal, a man of his time - he would have never thought about the basic injustice of a class system even despite his own slavery, if it wasn't for DG's telling him of UN's slave status and then those conversations they had. Because he never truly viewed himself as a slave - unjustly condemned to slavery for a crime he didn't commit but to fix his and his men's situation, you do not need the overhaul of the whole system - you can work within the system, to make it not corrupted - if the class system and slavery was used 'properly,' he and his men would have never been enslaved because they were framed not genuinely guilty. While for an average slave, for someone like UN, whether the class system was administered well or not didn't matter - she was born a slave and would die one under any version of it. (It's sort of like Iljimae v. Hong Gil Dong - in the former Iljimae was fine with the existing system, he just wasn't fine that it improperly killed his family, made him commoner etc. Because if the system was used the way it was intended, none of the wrongs to his family would have occurred. While in HGD, part of the reason HGD wanted to overturn the system itself as opposed to fix it was because no matter how justly administered, he'd still be a slave).

But DG is learning too - he is learning that it is possible to maintain your ideals despite being thrust into absolute hell. That you can be both an idealist and strong. That there is honor in the world. Etcetc. I love how he is stunned speechless when he asks TH why he didn't kill him earlier (during their combat) and TH matter-of-factly says because he's never killed one of 'our' citizens. (He is a soldier dedicated to protect and he will clearly uphold this - he's insanely incredible).

And of course TH asking DG to look after UN and the little Prince while he goes on a mission - wow. I love that he knows DG would die for UN but what I love most of all is that his desire to protect the woman he loves and his trust in her trump any jealousy or concern or anything - after all it's clear DG is still madly in love with UN and she still has some feelings for him.









Preview promises me this. Apparently he tells her this is the last time they will be separated. Uh-oh. Please don't let it be the last time they see each other. I will kill something! My pet nightmare is TH being forced to re-enact a scene from a decade ago - coming back from his duty only to find his wife dead and the (surrogate) son which she tried to protect still in her arms. Only this time alive. NOOOOO!

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[alexandral.livejournal.com]

Song Tae Ha has just become my favorite drama character ever. (Well, actually he is tied for first place with Kim Hyun Joon from IRIS, another wounded good guy fighter. Clearly I have a type).
2. If they do not have him happy at the end, with Un Nyun as his loving wife and about a dozen little kids running around to teach weaponry and to spoil, I am going to fly to Korea to have...words...with the writer. Violent, painfully sharp words.

Yep, Tae Ha is my absolute favourite too. But no! Don't mention IRIS,it is bad omen. :D

More I think about it, more I believe TH won't die (I know I said this at first, but this was before we saw his full character development) . If he dies, it will mean that a man like him (genuinely good) can't survive in the society etc. etc. and this is basically a tragedy. But the writers and directors hinted few times that the story is not a tragedy (like CitC) but "a story with hope", so I think TH won't die. We might have to suffer until the last moment, though – I see him hidden in a big pile of corpses , seemingly dead but then suddenly coming to life. (yes, I seem to find my analytical footing again :D)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Oh, I very much hope so. Because I can see how DG is doomed but TH has had such a learning curve and a growth arc, it would be a huge waste to kill him (I know I mentioned IRIS but in one huge way, Hyun Joon was similar to Dae Gil and not Tae Ha - he was irretrievably broken. He was a good person, an extraordinary one, and deserved happiness, but IRIS was a story of someone being broken apart. TH's arc is about him learning, becoming better, happier, more 'enlightened.')

But I am worried the writers' idea of hope is to have TH dead but UN pregnant with his baby - to carry on the legacy so to speak. NOT ENOUGH, writers!

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

But I am worried the writers' idea of hope is to have TH dead but UN pregnant with his baby - to carry on the legacy so to speak. NOT ENOUGH, writers!

You see, this was their idea in CitC- the couple was dead (because the girl was so damaged there were no saving there - and she didn't love the other guy), the secondary guy was left alive and the secondary lady was left alive too, having hero's baby.

But, the writer definitely was hinting that Chuno is NOT CitC, it has more hope.

I always just rely on math with this, but I am strangely hopeful. I think (almost 90% probability) that at least one of the protagonists (DG or TH) will survive. I can do with DG surviving, but prefer TH. And I think that UN's survival and her having TH's baby is 99% probability.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yeah, one of the reasons I was turned off by CitC was because I hated the heroine. Hello, professional poisoner!

I really really hope at least one of the men (like you, I'd prefer TH but am fine with DG) survive with UN.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

I liked the herouine in CitC, there was a reason for her to be so damaged (slavery, parent's death, rape, brainwashing). She was beyond reach. In a way, she is a rougher version of DG (who also done some horrible, horrible things). And she did what she did not just because she liked poisoning people (she liked healing them actually) but because she believed (was brainwashed) that this was the way to political change (and revenge for her family and herself).

I really really hope at least one of the men (like you, I'd prefer TH but am fine with DG) survive with UN.

This thing has finally settled in my brain. I promise you, one of them will survive.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yes, but to me, there is no excuse for certain actions, no matter what happened to you in the past. I know she had slavery/rape/brainwashing etc happen to her, but that doesn't absolve her.

Just as it doesn't absolve DG of slave-hunting just because his life got ruined.

But to me, the two are hugely different in degree. Slave hunting is not a good thing to do but at least he isn't killing people on purpose (he may kill in a fight or whatever, but it's not as if he sets out with a goal to kill A,B,C.) There is a reason what DG does is legitimate in that society and even that creepy violent society baulks at poisoning as a way of dealing with things. Not to mention that I find poisoning the most odious way of killing - if she was just stabbing them, I could deal better.

[timescout.livejournal.com]

Um, about poisoning.... apparently it was the favoured method of getting rid of someone in the Joseon court. Quite a few of the later royals were poisoned when they did not suit for those wielding the real power. Things really went from bad to worse in the years that followed the death of the king in CitC.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yes, but I don't think they went around proudly announcing they poisoned people - it was done hush-hush. I have no doubt they were fine with whichever way got rid of their rivals but it wasn't 'openly' condoned (as an example, the way adultery happens in conservative societies - it happens but people don't flaunt it no matter how common it is).

Looking back, the heroine was my biggest sticking point with CitC. I got bored by the politics, but it would have not mattered if I didn't just loathe the heroine (and I didn't have strong feelings towards either of the guys - the main guy looked about 12, poor thing).

[timescout.livejournal.com]

Nope, I don't think they went around advertising it. I think poison was mostly used because you could make the deaths look like something else. Well, guess they could have used 'oops, he tripped and fell on his sword' method but I don't think it would have been quite that beleavable. XD

I don't mind how they kill people in fictional tales. Poison, knifing, shooting, strangling... it's all the same. :) So I did not have that to make me not like the heroine. I actually loved the whole cast.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

I like the other guy, the merchant. He has sexy voice and he is also a bit of DG.

[timescout.livejournal.com]

My love probably has a basis in the fact that there was no surplus characters. Everyone had a function to fill and some of the minor ones were quite well developed as well. None of them made me hormonal (though the ninja bodyguard was kinda hot *g*), I just liked how they fitted in the story. ;)

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

Or yep, the ninja bodyguard!!! And his OTP with the merchant guy!

yes, as you, I liked the story itself, I didn't ship the main couple too much (liked them both but not too death), but I know you never ship.

And yes, I liked the story itself and many secondary characters too (genChoi!!)

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

As a method, I don't have nothing pro or against poisoning, for me as long as there is no torture, all methods of killing are equal. You see, I always have a thing for hot assassins, but someone like DG who doesn't wash his hair who makes money on people's misery bears less attraction to me (in general, I love DG)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I like his hair :)

It's the whole tying them down and holding them as they struggle when you pour poison in.

It's sort of like that whole THvDG debate - they both were idealists that had horrible things happen and TH kept his principles and DG did not. Poisoner girl also did not. It's easy to babble about ideals and nobility when you are in a bubble.

I think that's why I love TH - I'd argue what he went through was even worst (or at least as bad) as what DG and poisoner girl went through (that scene with the baby is the only scene of Chuno I cannot rewatch btw) and he still kept his humanity. So poisoner girl (and DG to a lesser extent as he hasn't done anything as horrible) suffer by comparison.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

Yep, I can get you not liking the girl, sometimes some things just aren't acceptable.

I was in CitC drama mostly for the merchant guy who is a bit of a cross between DG and TH (and who survives :D) . Loved him.

Yes, I agree - this what everyone forgets, that the things TH went through were more horrific than what DG went through (it was only hinted, for example, but I think TH's wife was raped. OR - he was used as a footstool for 3 years) and he went through it to become a better person, as he did with the UN's revelations and almost dying experience too. Lesser man would have been forever thinking "Oh noes?? Did I want to die or did I not when it dawned on me that I am a SLAVE?" or "What is my status as a fighter?", but TH seems to just shake it off and move on.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

that the things TH went through were more horrific than what DG went through

Exactly. (Btw, I am with you, I think her shirt being off her shoulders was the drama's very circumspect way to indicate what happened to his wife). If you think about it, it's sort of a mircale he didn't go insane with everything that happened to him.

But what I really love is that no matter what he never lost this ingrained kindness - he helped those slaves escape even though he could have escaped easier without them (and even though they were awful to him). Even though he was half-delirious with wounds and on a mission, he still stopped to help a stranger woman escape rape. He even apologized to the soldiers before defeating them (but not killing them) to take a horse and clothes. To have kept this insitnctive, automatic gentleness after what happened to him is just incredible. He's just an incredibly good person. But what I totally love is that he doesn't come across as a Gary Stu at all - he does get afraid, and devastated and very uncertain of his course of action. And he can be overly proud or too closed off. But he's still amazing despite that.

Lesser man would have been forever thinking "Oh noes?? Did I want to die or did I not when it dawned on me that I am a SLAVE?" or "What is my status as a fighter?", but TH seems to just shake it off and move on.



It's not that he doesn't think - he does. But he doesn't let it paralize him.

Oh, I love him so it's ridiculous.

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

He's just an incredibly good person. But what I totally love is that he doesn't come across as a Gary Stu at all - he does get afraid, and devastated and very uncertain of his course of action. And he can be overly proud or too closed off. But he's still amazing despite that.

In many ways, his moment of weakness worked really well for me. I just re-watched the ep.16 with the subs. OMPH! It is an awesome episode - you can just see how the wall of denial collapses in TH. DG is so awesome too - he was questioned about the Prince but he was mum. Oooo, I wanna see the episode 17 with the subs too now!!!

DG promised to see CW's death, BTW - I think these things usually become prophetic in Kdrama.

NO TAE HA. DO NOT DIE.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I find it so interesting that DG did the right thing for the 'wrong' reasons. He couldn't care less for the prince but he knows UN would be in danger so he is mum.

I really liked how it all collapsed on him too - in part because UN's situation really sort of rubs in his face his own slavery too - he was so adamant to deny its reality.

[akosikae.livejournal.com]

But I am worried the writers' idea of hope is to have TH dead but UN pregnant with his baby - to carry on the legacy so to speak. NOT ENOUGH, writers!

Please, please I hope they do not do a Pearl Harbor.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I will be really really mad if they do. I like DG and all but if he and UN can live happily ever after with TH's kid, I'd have to kill something.

[uhmbrr.livejournal.com]

don't think this man is dying either.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yay! I;d rather none of them did but that's probably unlikely...

[ambergold.livejournal.com]

omg. You know, most of Chuno thus far hasn't sounded like it pushed many of my buttons - I don't care about aristocrat/slave particularly - but a strong man telling another strong man who also loves the woman he loves to protect her while he's away is a HUGE huge favorite of mine.

also, Jang Hyuk is inexplicably even hotter than usual in these caps.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

This drama is making me shipperly bipolar - I am not used to that! :)

[alexandral.livejournal.com]

Me too..

[timescout.livejournal.com]

I do love Tae Ha. How could you not! He's such a wonderful man. But then, I always go for the good guys, almost without a fail.

Some useless info... my initials are also TH (first name/surname). ;P

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, I always go for good boys in RL and in fiction. Never got the thing about fixing a bad boy when you can get someone pre-fixed :)

[kdramacrazy.livejournal.com]

Omg, I haven't been able to function normally since I started watching Chuno. It is crazy! I mean after Iris, I thought to myself it will be hard to find another drama that would be as good but dang....Chuno is awesome
I LOVE TH....I MEAN HE IS AWESOME IN SO MANY WAYS......HE IS SUCH A MANLY MAN..A TRUE GENTLEMAN...IF HW/UN CHEATS ON HIM WITH DG.....I WOULD BE SO MAD BECAUSE THEY NEED TO LIVE HAPPILY TOGETHER EVER AFTER. I MEAN I DO FEEL FOR DG BECAUSE HE IS A SWEETIE AND TRULY LOVES HER BUT THE PAST IS THE PAST...
Also, DG is like a boy who throws tantrum and acts without thinking.
Seriously, I need to stop watching Chuno when its all done because its unhealthy for me :)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yes, I am so madly in love with TH it's insane. He is such an amazing amazing man. I want him and HW have a happy ending, please please please.

I agree, DG is a tad immature.

[uhmbrr.livejournal.com]

he better not die this Tae ha, I don't want him to... but I'm sorry I'm in love with immature and erratic... bipolar, homocidal Dae Gil.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

LOL.

Chuno brought into sharp relief that I always always always prefer the good guy not the tortured bad boy. Heh.

[issy-chan.livejournal.com]

"1. Song Tae Ha has just become my favorite drama character ever. (Well, actually he is tied for first place with Kim Hyun Joon from IRIS, another wounded good guy fighter. Clearly I have a type).

2. If they do not have him happy at the end, with Un Nyun as his loving wife and about a dozen little kids running around to teach weaponry and to spoil, I am going to fly to Korea to have...words...with the writer. Violent, painfully sharp words."
ok, i am holding you to your words. you can NOT back up now and start shipping DH/UN again as you did some weeks ago. ;-)
and please include me in your trip if you to korea to revenge TH death (it hurts even to write those words)

can i go some more awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww for that sleeping TH/little prince cap and UN watching them with smile? it melts my heart everytime i see it. embaressed to confess, but i had this cap all day on my compture at work and i sneaked every now and then just to peek. eeeeeeeee
if only little little prince move closer to TH and make some space for UN. ;-)

i think baby TW will definitely becomes reality by the end of chuno. specially now that he has an actual name too. but i want baby TW to be with his father by the end.
OMG, did you see those TH teary eyes when he was talking about them having kids. was is the joy of imagining being with his son and his wife or the fear of believeing that is one dream that never can come true??? OJH was so great in expressing those feelings just by his eyes.
the reunion of three slave hunters really made me cry. it was such emotional scenes. just great. but have to say i really hated how DG used SH to make UN feel jealous or whatever he wanted her to think. just not fair. i seriously like SH and don't like DG when he is so mean to her. this time was the cruelect time ever. to make her believe that he missed her as much as she did but he even did not think of her even for one second.
ok, i don't think that DG is going to fall in love with SH but please DG don't lead her in thinking so. i just can't stand SH sad face and teary eyes over DG.

"Preview promises me this. Apparently he tells her this is the last time they will be separated. Uh-oh. Please don't let it be the last time they see each other. I will kill something!"

please GOD, don't let be so. don't let it be so. i would go in serious depression state if any harm happens to my beloved TH. he has to come back to his wife and his baby TW (both to real and fake TWs)

sorry for such long rant.

[kdramacrazy.livejournal.com]

issy chan and dangermousie,

Its crazy how we are all thinking the same thing :) I think that HW only smiles and looks genuinely happy when she is with TH. I mean she did have some happy time with DG but it was in the past now and they have grown into different people. However, those feelings are still there and those emotional attachment just show that they are compassionate human beings. If HW and DG were to forget those feelings completely and ignore each other as if they never had their history, it would say something else about their characters, don't you think? I am hoping DG and HW will have a heart to heart talk and come to a conclusion that their love for each other was special and precious and they should always treasure the memories. HW decided to marry TH because she loves him, she was completely attracted to him through their journey, she admires his characters. Thats what make their marriage works. She did not marry TH out of obligations that is why she will remain his wife no matter what or she better be..hahahah
I do like DG though. I think his love for HW/UN is precious as well. But its just not meant to be. I think he still has a lot to learn about himself. As I mentioned before, he is still a boy....TH is a man.....:)
After Iris, I seriously can't handle another tragic ending. Seriously, the directors/writers need to lighten up, don't you think?
I think we are so crazy for ranting about this drama but its awesome :)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I agree - DG and UN loved each other madly back then but by now, whatever their feelings are, I cannot imagine them working out even if TH magically turned into a puff of air. DG's very mode of life is againt UN's principles, not to mention he is too messed up to have a relationship with.

I can see TH and UN living everyday moments - I cannot see DG and UN that way.

And I agree - she loves TH. It's not just 'I admire you' (though that is important - you want to be able to respect your partner in life) but they were clearly both madly attracted to each other (remember the scene when he was holding her when fighting the bandits or he pushed her against a wall to hide - you could tell she was hyper-sensitive and aware of him then).

So yes.

Oh, please please don't let it be another IRIS.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Don't apologize, I love long posts!

I would be devastated if TH died (as for DG, I like him but he has been living on borrowed time all this while). There is no character in this who deserves to bee happy more than he does.

i really hated how DG used SH to make UN feel jealous or whatever he wanted her to think. just not fair. i seriously like SH and don't like DG when he is so mean to her. this time was the cruelect time ever. to make her believe that he missed her as much as she did but he even did not think of her even for one second.


I am pretty indifferent to SH so maybe that inluences me, but I honestly think SH likes him precisely because he's unreachable - he's 'safe.' I bet if he ever really showed interest, she'd not like it. He'd be too much like the other men in her life.

[kdramacrazy.livejournal.com]

You know whats funny. I watched episode 19 and episode 20 raw without English subtitles. A couple of days ago, I searched the internet like a lunatic to find spoilers website so I can have a better understanding of what is going on. At this moment, I wish Korean was my second language. But the crazy thing is I can kind of guess what TH and HW were saying to each other because my thoughts matched other people's translation. Anyways, back to ranting :)
1. I love all TH and HW's moments. It makes me happy watching them together. Even though TH was a former general, he has always treated HW with respect and kindness. HW always called him sir in the beginning but he always tried to correct her and told her that she should call him husband. It shows that he treats her like an equal partner and not beneath him. I mean in our society today, there are still plenty of male chauvinists out there :)
2. I never watched any of Oh Ji Ho's dramas. I mean from checking out his pics, I think he looks so hot in this drama because it totally fits him. His beard and his rugged self.....Lee Da Hae of course is amazing in this drama. She is always my favorite and after East of Eden, I feel so bad for her. That drama is so stupid in many ways and after she left, it was a waste of time.
3. I agree with Issy Chan about SH and DG's relationship. He is using her and it will come back to bite him. I mean she comforted him in some ways when he went out of his mind about HW/UN. It is cruelty what he is doing to her and he might have to pay for that. He did show some kindness toward her but it has not been consistent. Of course he is a confused boy. Its funny but I think of him as a teenage boy not knowing what the heck he is doing most of the times.
4. They can't kill TH because in this drama, the only happy people are TH and HW. How can you kill the only hope? I will not watch any more drama after this if they kill TH..haha 4 more episodes left.....
5. Oh, i hope HW will get pregnant because i think the writers are hinting it that way.
6. Sorry if my thoughts are random to follow, but yesterday i read some posts on soompi and someone was saying that TH must be naive to ask DG to look after his wife and the prince when he will go on his mission. What do you think? I certainly don't think that he is stupid and naive at all. I think he is a mature, noble, and smart husband. He knows that DG will protect HW at all cost so DG is the only one who can truly protect her besides himself. He doesn't have any choice at this point but to go on this mission by himself and not dragging her along. He thinks of her safety and survival above his own insecurity and jealousy of her ex. Ultimately he is doing the things that ordinary men might not be able to do. Don't you think? I mean he is not handling HW over to DG so she can cheat on him because he believes in their marriage and loyalty to each other. At this point, he chooses to trust his wife.
Oh dear, if HW ends up cheating on him with DG, then she does not deserve TH....
ok enough ranting for now.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

It shows that he treats her like an equal partner and not beneath him. I mean in our society today, there are still plenty of male chauvinists out there :)


I loved that too.

And I agree re: DG. He may be 30+ but emotionally he is still a confused adolescent, sort of permanently stuck in the past.

Re: TH leaving UN in DG's care. I loved him so much for it! I love a man who puts the wellbeing of the woman he loves and his trust in her above any jealousy or insecurity. He is going to do what's best for her AND respect her as an honorable adult. Could it be any better?

She better not cheat! But I can't see her cheating.

[uhmbrr.livejournal.com]

Dae Gil is actually not 30+... he's 27-28 just like Hye Won/Un Nyun. Tae Ha's older than them being 32. But yeaaah Dae Gil is pretty damn immature and has some real big baby issues. Even Jang Hyuk describes him as immature.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I get a bit iffy on the ages - I know it's 10 yrs from flashbackland and they were young then, but I wasn't sure how young. I always assumed he was 20 or so back then :)

Yeah, I figured that TH is older than both but I always felt DG was a little older than UN. Maybe it's JH and LDH's real age difference coming out.

[kdramacrazy.livejournal.com]

Oh guys,

I forgot to mention one thing. I am not sure if anyone else has the same thinking about this particular scene. Remember the part in episode 20 where she woke up next to the prince and TH, smiled and wallked outside to get some water and DG was watching her? It seems to me that she was exhausted and i thought she looked nauseated. You guys think she is pregnant? I know I might read too much into it but it does make sense, look at that scene again if you want...heehhe

[issy-chan.livejournal.com]

hehehhe i just like how we analysing every little details and obsess about them when it comes to something we love. not sure if they want to give us hints about her being pregnant already here and there instead of spelling it out for us. if so, then i recall her recents scenes when she is running with TH and keep putting her hand on her tommy. :-)

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

Yay. Oh, I hope she is.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

That would be awesome but I think a little early - how long ago was their wedding night? It couldn't have been more than 2 weeks ago, right? That would be on the early side to show symptoms then but not out of realm of probability... hmmmm, three weeks is when I started showing signs with my baby so maybe it's possible

[issy-chan.livejournal.com]

has it been only two weeks since they got married?? more reason wanting these two to be together.
as you said, i too can't see UN happily married and living with DG but with TH? OH GOD YESSSS. they just match eachother in everyway.
i really love DG and feel his pain but i really think he needs to have his closure with UN and move on.
and those scenes when TH was holding to UN and fighting the bandits, not only made her nervous but made me wishing to be right there in her place. ;-)

completely on different subject,
i can't find your tags all together. i was thinking of watching get Karl ... OJH drama and i remembered you had a post abput it sometimes ago. i just can't find it any where.

[dangermousie.livejournal.com]

I don't think DG will ever get over UN - too much of his psyche is tied to her. But I don't think he could ever be happy with her. TH and UN match so perfectly though!

Re: Get Karl:

http://dangermousie.livejournal.com/tag/get%20karl%21%20oh%20soo%20jung