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I am not ashamed to admit that occasionally I read (and like) romance novels - sometimes you just crave something sweet, junky, and light.

But if I had any shame, I'd be ashamed to admit that one of these romance novels is a huge guilty-pleasure favorite comfort reread.

That book is Judith McNaught's Perfect. It is one of the banes of my life that it's not available on Kindle so I can hide my shame in peace.

Perfect is just so...cheesy. And angsty. And cheesy. With a side of cheese. And OTT melodramatic and full of dysfunctional families and falsely imprisoned hero who used to be a famous director and wholesome heroine who teaches disabled children and illiterate women and probably has a halo.

It's basically like one giant kdrama only with a lot more sex.

So why a guilty-pleasure status? Because it has two things I normally hate (and hate in this book, too, but I still like the book, go figure).

Our hero, the formerly-famous-director-now-a-convicted-felon (framed for the murder of his ex-wife. Should have saved yourself for Jesus, boy!) escapes from prison and kidnaps our heroine (devout, saint-type person). That's Thing I Hate Number 1 - I don't necessarily blame the guy for dragging heroine along (he wants her car and she has to go along so as not to spill the beans) but the whole 'woman falls for kidnapper' thing never made sense to me (see The Parallax View movie etc - how does that work?)

Blah blah blah they travel and fall for each other but then comes Thing I Hate Number 2 - this is an older romance novel so we know what follows - what romances like to call a 'forced seduction' scene but I like to call 'rape.' I don't care if her body is enjoying it, if she is saying no, it means no, even if she isn't biting your nose off. I know you just got out of prison and all but...

But seeing that he ends up almost freezing to death out of guilt and then later she turns him in to the cops and it's back to jaiiiiiiiiil for our hero, at least it's not all consequence-less.

Anyway, I normally should loathe a book like that and it's trashy and cheesy and morally questionable as all hell BUT I LOVE IT. I love wholesome saintly Jesus-loving heroines getting it on with falsely-imprisoned, dysfunctional-family-having famous directors/movie star. Heeee. Such trash and such love.

Date: 2010-02-22 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eccequambonum.livejournal.com
my guilty pleasure is wishing your icon were bigger and showed more.

... um, you were saying?

Date: 2010-02-22 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Indeed. Heh. I wish.

Date: 2010-02-22 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cranberrysheep.livejournal.com
what romances like to call a 'forced seduction' scene but I like to call 'rape.'

This reminds me of the first time I watched Gone With the Wind and Rhett carried Scarlett up those stairs. All I could think was "Wait... so we're supposed to think that rape is romantic?" Scarlett was happy when she woke up, so everything is OK?

Date: 2010-02-22 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I read GWTW before I watched the movie and in the book it's basically indicated that this was the first time Scarlett had an orgasm which is pretty darn freaky.

But I never had a problem with GWTW because of that scene because both Rhett and Scarlett are such fucked up, fucked up people it all seemed in character.

Date: 2010-02-22 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ficchica.livejournal.com
If I were you I would stay away from Whitney my Love. The forced seduction in Perfect has got nothing on WML. Nothing. It didn't bother me when I read it but I've heard people rage, and rage.

Date: 2010-02-22 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I flipped through WML ages ago and yeah, if I remember correctly was that the one where he was pissed because he was (under mistaken impression) she was not a virgin so he raped her? Ugh.

It reminds me of those 1920s novels where rape out of jealousy and revenge was an awesome manly thing to do.

Date: 2010-02-22 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fivil.livejournal.com
I bought that one after I was semi-dared to do it at a bookstore with some friends and the paperback was really cheap. I liked it fine until that scene, god, so much wrong. At that stage I was more "WTF?" than rage, though, because I didn't know it was trope in romance.

Date: 2010-02-22 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okmewriting.livejournal.com
It's not really that common these days but back in the day (70s/80s) forced sex was a really big thing. The one in WML really isn't that bad and at least it was the hero and he felt bad afterwards. I read a book were the heroine was raped more than once - by her uncle who wanted her because he thought she was a guy (but still wanted her when he found out she was female), by the police, then she had sex with a guy she didn't love but she felt she owed him for helping her to get onto the ship. All this was described in excruciating and titillating detail, this is before we bumped into the hero btw. This was apparently a romance. Thank god times have changed and I no longer read historical romance!

Date: 2010-02-22 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
OMG I think I read that one years ago. *shudder*

Date: 2010-02-22 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kikintae.livejournal.com
If you like perfect, you should try paradise. I love both of those the most. I like most of her books but whitney my love is my most hated one. If you likes feisty heroin, I thinks you should tried susan elizabeth phillip, her books are full of feisty heroine and dumb but actually smart jock.

Date: 2010-02-22 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I just discovered Susan Phillips - what a total coincidence! She is indeed super-fun.

Date: 2010-02-22 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitkat-cat.livejournal.com
oh dear...this is when i confess to owning every single one of her books...bar 2... i am pathetic!

Date: 2010-02-22 10:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] village.livejournal.com
I quite like SEP and I have quite a collection of Jude Deveraux books in a box somewhere which totally trumps SEP on the cheese level. ;)

Date: 2010-02-22 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
*notes the name to self*

Date: 2010-02-23 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitkat-cat.livejournal.com
Oh my goodness! jude deveraux! i remember reading every single one of her books, when i was 15-18! lol, that's way more than a decade ago for me now! i feel so old! i lurved the Montogomery family! i was also an avid reader of julie garwood! things i did when i was a kid! hahahaha!

I donated most of these to charity in my mid-20s when i started to read a lot of fantasy and realised that i simply didnt have enough room to store all of them.

However, i will confess to hanging on to my Teresa Medeiros (ther are currently living under my side of the bed, for easy access on a sunday morning!) for dear life (they have survived 5 house moves up and down the length and breadth of the UK!), even as The FIANCE reads chapters out at me in jest and mutters under his breath about how is it someone who is boyish, bloodthirsty and operates mainly in a intellectually demanding environment can read these things! i usually point out my collection of korean/jap/taiwanese/wuxia dramas out to him by this point.lol!

Date: 2010-02-22 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisterjune.livejournal.com
that's a cool coincidence, one of my flist buddies just introduced me to susan e philips too. and she recced me 3 of her books XD (gave me ebooks to read) they do sound fun albeit ridiculous haha.

Date: 2010-02-22 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitkat-cat.livejournal.com
bwah ha ha ha ha! i remember reading this when i was 16!

i read it again recently and it's just so trashy, and sometimes just makes me want to scream and tear my hair out, but then, i get a maniacal grin on my face too!

Date: 2010-02-22 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Isn't it just so good - mmm, I love trashiness.

Btw, ep 13 of Pick the Stars is out with subs on viikii

Date: 2010-02-23 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitkat-cat.livejournal.com
Re : Pick of the Stars -> will have to watch tonight when i get home!

i've been sitting on my hands, trying desperately NOT to peek at the leaked episodes of Ella and Jerry's Down with Love that are ALL OVER the internet right now! yep, the whole lot, every single episode, leaked. i keep telling myself that watching them would be immoral and wrong and disrespectful to everyone who worked so hard on it and that the line MUST be drawn somewhere! If only i didnt understand mandarin, and needed subs! yikes!

Date: 2010-02-24 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I am so jealous - wish I knew Mandarin!

Date: 2010-02-22 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisterjune.livejournal.com
Man I know the feeling, I've never read that book (or any mcnaught) but not long ago I read a few Anne Stuart books and they are SO trashy and ridiculous and the heros are often alpha douches and yet something about them is just so darn addictive. One of the more ridiculous and trashy ones was "Ritual Sins" which is really a horror b movie in novel form, with the addition of romance novel tropes/elements. fucked up and ridiculous, but entertaining all the same. (perhaps for those exact reasons lol)

Date: 2010-02-22 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Heee, I shall totally look that up now.

Date: 2010-02-23 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popaddict.livejournal.com
During high school this novel got passed around like manna from the heavens.
Oh, catholic all-girls school, how I miss thee!

Date: 2010-02-23 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chagyaron.livejournal.com
LOL i particularly love this post:) Mcnaught takes 'Romance' to its limit doesn't she? 'Almost Heaven' still makes me shudder even after two years--its too corny. but i do enjoy 'Night Whispers' and 'Remember When' though, they're tolerable. i saw a comment up there suggesting Jude Deveraux and i agree, she's one hell of a writer. The Montgomery and Taggert clans are always amusing.

Date: 2010-02-24 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yup - she cheesy, so fun.

Date: 2010-02-23 06:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kumipanda.livejournal.com
my big three.. is jude deveraux, judith mcnaught, and julie garwood althou lately i'm pretty disappointed in the last couple jude deveraux's .. and yes i totally love wallowing in the cheese factor of these stories.. i read it with a giant grin on my face while my brain is scoffing at the sillyness of the characters..

Date: 2010-02-24 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Heee, I am going to look Garwood up.

Date: 2010-02-23 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Judith MacNaught has always been my all time fave author. I've read all her novels. I love Perfect and do love Paradise more.... Nothing beats the love story of Zach and Julie as well as Meredith and Matthew..

Date: 2010-02-24 04:35 pm (UTC)

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