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I promise to reply to everyone tomorrow. Last couple of days have been a bit crazy.

This is a bit unconnected :)

I. Movies

Saw Across the Universe tonight. It was a flawed (if fun) movie but the creators of it were both incredibly talented and on drugs, to be able to fit all the Beatles songs the way they did. (it's worth seeing if for nothing else than for Bono doing 'I am the Walrus). And Jim Sturges is much better than the already-good movie. I have a new crush.

II. Bollywood

Aamir Khan has a blog. You guys, Aamir Khan has a blog. And he responds to people. OMG. I didn’t think I could love him more than I do (I mean, come ON! Fanaa AND Rang De Basanti same year?????). Seriously. I was wrong.

Here: http://www.lagaandvd.com/blog.php

In one of his posts he has this to say and it’s the best defense of Bollywood I have seen:


“For those who look down on mainstream Indian Cinema, I would like to leave you'll with a thought. In my opinion the PRIMARY responsibility of cinema is to entertain. While we can use it as a medium to teach, create awareness, make people think, make people socially more aware etc. the fact is that cinema's PRIMARY purpose is to entertain. And Indian Cinema has been fulfilling this primary responsibility for the last 80 years. For the last 80 years Indian Cinema has been successfully entertaining the vast and varied population of India. People from different states, languages, cultures, economical backgrounds, cultural backgrounds, NRIs, etc. have by and large, together laughed, cried, clapped, and we have forgotten our problems for those 3 hours that we have invested in an Indian film. I sincerely believe this, and I think this is of great social relevance. Now I ask you, how many other areas of social relevance have successfully shouldered their respective PRIMARY responsibilies, - the various politicians who have lead our country for the last 80 years? The administration? The law and order machinery? The legal system? The education system? Think about it. And then lets hear it for Indian Cinema.”

And in one of his posts he talks about reading and loving William Dalrymple’s City of Djinns and White Mughals. *sigh* He has excellent taste in books.

Oh, Aamir. You are awesome.

III. I rant about Tolstoy (inspired by [livejournal.com profile] fire_snake)

I have decided to blame my fascination with angsty repressed aristocrats and hyper, spritely girls on War and Peace. Reading it at an impressionable age, I am afraid I fell in love with Prince Andrei Bolkonsky and Natasha Rostova. So it’s all Tolstoy’s fault. Grrrr. I have still not forgiven him for the ending (considering that Anna Karenina ends up under a train, I guess only 33% of Tolstoy couples I find interesting, i.e. Kitty/Levin, end up having a hea, hmmm…That’s still better than the average for a Russian novel). I wonder if it was published today whether there would be ship wars, heh. It’s a little bizarre to crush on the same literary characters as your grandmothers probably did, but whatever…


Sidetrack on Anna Karenina, btw. I just found out that in some version, Sean Connery played Vronsky. My brain is broken. There is also, apparently, a 2000 British mini with Kevin McKidd as Vronsky and much as (or most likely because) I loved him in Rome, I can’t see him in it either. I mean, where is the toga? I have to say, much as I love AK the novel, I get impatient with Anna by the end. I understand she is going crazy by the end, because she is completely ostracized, and can’t see her son, and is worried she wrecked Vronsky’s life too, but. BUT. Lady, that is the point. If you were going to leave your husband to run away with your lover, in 19th century Russia, that is what was going to happen. Seriously, how could you not have known it? You knew it, so you had to be really sure you could hack it, otherwise you should have chosen to stay with Karenin. And once you picked it, take your lumps, it’s your choice. Pick hardcore pragmatism and/or maternal love, or pick giving up everything for romantic love. But be sure which one you want, and stick with it, for goodness’ sake. Don’t get ‘woe is me’ (seriously, you could be a prisoner in Siberia or some poor peasant in the Samara region or God knows what else, you are OK off) or ‘he can’t love me because I am so unappealing’ (even though he does love you, keep going like this and he won’t, pronto) or ‘shiny train, me want to jump.’ Does jumping under a train really make it all better? It doesn’t do anything to get your kid back (as you are a corpsicle and thus unable to provide maternal care), your husband will probably be happy because now he is a suitable widower, and your lover is now so consumed with guilt because he thinks he must not have paid enough attention to you that he is off to the war hoping to get killed. Oh, and you yourself are squished flat and present a most unappetizing and crushed picture. I fail to see the point. I am sympathetic, really, but come on. That’s a little high maintenance. (I do like Anna, honest).

IV. Vladimir + Sarcasm = OTP.

Vladimir, I am deeply impressed by your sleuthing skills and your uncovering the real killer of your Daddy. I am also impressed that, even though you have lost all your property, you still managed to do it AND get Zabaluyev jailed and Maria Dolgorukaya running from the cops.



You managed it all while looking hot, so double bonus points. And I love that you have made up with Lisa, because you were childhood friends before she fancied herself in love with you and all that. (Though no matter how giddy-grateful you are, don’t kiss her cheek, or she will fall back for you. I mean, I nearly melted).

HOWEVER. Remember Anna? The girl you love more than life etc etc etc. The one you spent the whole freaking night out in the cold guarding? Well, you are not aware of it, but she has been captured (due to your friend Michael being seriously lame and not checking if he is being followed, and also taking her at her word when she said ‘bye forever.’ Gosh, what Anna really wanted is for Michael to crush her to him and tell her he won’t let her. Ugh. Soft-headed person, Michael). You know, captured by evil Shuller, who dragged her to Maria Dolgorukaya who is batshit nutty, and first ordered her whipped and then threatened to put a brand on her forehead, and only got interrupted by her daughter. Come on, go rescue, dammit! (I do like that Anna is not backing down).

Especially since Dolgorukaya now has decided she will think of what to do with her and ordered Shuller to tie her up in the stables, and not only is it freezing, but Shuller is promising to come back and take her against her will.

Seriously, murder-detectiving are all well and good, and I don’t blame you for thinking not even misfortune-prone Anna could get into so much trouble in one morning, but go rescue her already. Hey, your friend is useless, after all.

Also, Dolgorukaya? You are officially insane. You married your daughter off to a man old enough to be her grandfather because you wanted to spite everyone? Yeah, you are a nutcase. You wanted to make out with your daughter’s husband (hey, he is older than you, too)? Hi, lunatic. You killed Vladimir’s Daddy because he helped your husband cheat on you?* Hi, lunatic again. You are all ‘I am reveling in full in his son’s sufferings [direct quote]’ so party-time, even though the kid was what? Five years old when the thing started and had nothing to do with your husband being a bastard** and his Dad being one likewise? Lock-you-up-time. You tried to brand Anna in the head with a hot poker? Seriously, did you lose your meds?

*Though the more I learn about Vladimir’s Daddy, the less I like him, still, poisoning the man is a bit extreme. I mean, he would win ‘sucky father of the year’ award, except for the fact that BN is chockfull of sucky fathers and it’s a tough competition. And I am glad he got offed, because it jump-started V/A, but seriously? Poisoning his booze? That’s low. Let him just die of cirrhosis like he is supposed to.

** Seriously, WTF is with her husband. It’s OK if he cheated a bit, but as he is Anna’s father with the mistress. and Anna is over 20, this must have been going on for forever. Ugh. Nice spouse.

In other news, I have discovered a huge thing for Alexander/Natalie, somehow. I am up to the point where she will pretend to be his mistress so as to avoid other attentions and OMG, when he is pissed off and jealous, it is really hot and they are both super sophisticated and fight and have all these undercurrents and so, so much LOVE. GUH. I have such a thing for that ship.

Also, I think yet another reason why Anna thaws towards Vladimir is because in her short stint with Dolgorukaya and Zabaluyev, she realizes that this is how someone treats a serf if they hate her (or are even indifferent). Compared to how Vladimir behaved to her*** even when they were supposed to be hating each other, it’s another universe. So I think she realizes a lot of things now.

*** Other serfs seem to share the view. Some guy from his servants was almost weeping for Vladimir to come back because their new owner is ‘nasty.’ Heh. Vladimir might have a tough front, but in reality he is a marshmallow ;) (thank you Wallace from VM!) Heh.

ETA: KISSING! (as posted earlier)

OMG. YES.

And before that, Anna rescued herself. YES.

But KISSING.

And oh man, she is still giggly/blushy ages afterwards and is all ‘I can still feel it.’ Bye, Michael, you lose.

ETA2: I totally cheated and went a gazillion eps ahead and watched Vladimir’s proposal to Anna. *thud* Hot men on their knees looking up at their OTP? Am dead.



V. My childhood tastes explain a little too much about me.

Seriously, when I think back to the types of movies I watched when a kid, is it any wonder I love Bollywood and kdrama? I mean, come on, I found this clip on youtube from the Russian movie I used to be nuts about when I was a kid (in my defense, so was the Vice Principal of our school :P), Gardemarini Vpered (sort of a Russian take on 3 Musketeers type story). Below is one of the two OTPs. I mean, come on, people singing songs in a movie and chock-full of love affairs storylines? So very Bollywood, including obligatory fade-outs to flowers and other growy things. And oh, so kdrama. Did I mention that this OTP first met when the guy was cross-dressing as a girl and the chick invited heself to travel with him because she was running away from a monastery? Could it get any more kdrama? :P Seriously, I have had the same tastes in fiction since I was six or so.

Date: 2007-09-27 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginzarhapsody.livejournal.com
I read Anna Karenina in high school and absolutely loved it. Just around the time I was reading it, I actually saw the 2000 British version with Kevin McKidd as Vronsky. He was actually really good and the combination of the miniseries and the book totally made me fall in love with the story. :)

Date: 2007-09-28 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Hmmmm, I should probably check this adaptation then!

Date: 2007-09-27 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
You're reminding me that I never actually finished War and Peace though I absolutely adored it :o! I need to buy the books again ^^. And watch a good movie/tv version of it.

Date: 2007-09-28 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
The 1960s Russian version is really long (8 hours????) and faithful and good.

Date: 2007-09-27 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katranna.livejournal.com
OMG! Amir is awesome. I was just watching Lagaan... I'm gonna show some clips of it to my class, I think. Anyway, yay for Amir! He's nice and unlike some other celebrity bloggers, he duzn't rite like dis.

Date: 2007-09-28 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I wonder what your class will think.

Date: 2007-09-27 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fivil.livejournal.com
I blogged about Aamir Khan's blog a while back. I've yet to work out the courage to comment to one of his posts. It seems like he replies and that is just the weirdest to me - he's Aamir Khan! He's supposed to be all unreachable and far-away. Now I can read his blog and comment and he might reply to me and just ..brain overload!

The defence of Indian cinema is indeed fantastic. The whole blog is so AAMIR. I love it.

Date: 2007-09-28 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I can't believe he not only posts but reads. That is what so boggles the mind. Hey, some of replies are spam, so you shouldn't worry about posting :)

Date: 2007-09-27 10:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
There is also, apparently, a 2000 British mini with Kevin McKidd as Vronsky

OMPH! Ypu reminded me! I watched this! It wasn't anything really interesting , though

I am so with you on Andrey Bolkonsky and Natasha! I find "War and Peace" much more satisfying in a shippy sense then "Anna Karenina". I also loved Andrey's sister! I love Anna Karenina to bits but I am very angry with Vronsky. I think Anna was prepared to be ostracized as long as their love endured. What i think she wasn't ready for was Vronsky's doubts. But here is where I contradict myself - I also very much on Anna's husband's site. Oh yea, he is a boring middle-aged man. But! He wasn't a monster or anything of the kind to deserve all he had to endure. He is the father of Anna's boy and he also has paternal rights.

Altogether I think "Anna Karenina"-the-book is much more complex then many of it's adaptations which usually just go for "sweeping love" story.. For example, in my interpretation Anna's death was as much accident as anything - she became terrified by her own decision but got dragged under wheels : "And exactly at the
moment when the space between the wheels came opposite her, she
dropped the red bag, and drawing her head back into her
shoulders, fell on her hands under the carriage, and lightly, as
though she would rise again at once, dropped on to her knees.
And at the same instant she was terror-stricken at what she was
doing. "Where am I? What am I doing? What for?" She tried to
get up, to drop backwards; but something huge and merciless
struck her on the head and rolled her on her back.".

Date: 2007-09-27 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofthorns.livejournal.com
Alexandra, yes, i totally agree - I think all the many adaptations seem to focus more on the Big Sweeping Love Story but it's actually a complex story about family and familial love too (hence those famous opening words) and the love story in the novel is more about Kitty and Levin than about Anna and Vronsky, IMO!

Karenin is a very complex figure too - not just a villain standing in the way of true love, but a betrayed husband, as well as a loving father, but one who is also not above using his child to take revenge on the child's mother!

Date: 2007-09-27 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
I agree- among all of "Anna Karenina" adaptations I really liked the old Russian one (http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0061359/) with gorgeous Vasiliy Lanovoy as Vronsky (oh, he was the last of "classical" Russian actors):



But even more, this adaptation was very kind to Levin's story. And I agree - the book itself is as much about Levin, his soul-searching and his relationship with Kitty and his brother as about Anna and Vronsky.

Date: 2007-09-28 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I like that Anna's husband wasn't some sort of monster, but just rather a dull man.

Re: accident. I agree she might have changed her mind, but she did jump.

I am afraid I am more on Vronsky's side of the argument than Anna's. Anyone would have doubts and Anna is rather high maintenance. I prefer Levin and Kitty though.

Date: 2007-09-27 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofthorns.livejournal.com
I think Anna's story in Anna Karenina is very much NOT about romantic love at all (even though every movie ever made on the subject tries to sell it that way), because I think Tolstoy was really showing us the "happy ending love story" with Kitty and Levin, who really know and love each other, whereas Vronsky and Anna are swept away by sexual passion (which, lord knows, poor Anna, having more or less been sold into marriage, deserved!) But Vronsky is not the man she thinks he is at all and therein lies her tragedy!

Anna Karenina

Date: 2007-09-27 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fire-snake.livejournal.com
I wouldn't go as far as saying that Anna was sold into marriage. It seems like it was a typical upper-class marriage of convenience. On top of which her husband wasn't a monster, she just didn't love him and wanted more excitement in her life. Speaking of Russian literature, Tatiyana in "Evgeniy Onegin" had the same problem, but her solution was dramatically different. I am not sure which one was better, but at least Tatiyana prudently decided to stay alive with her husband.

Re: Anna Karenina

Date: 2007-09-27 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofthorns.livejournal.com
I think I had somehow the impression that Karenin settled Stiva's debts after he married Anna, which is why I said "sold" into marriage, but I'm clearly mixing this up with something else!

I think Anna is after more than just "excitement" - because it seems that having an affair would provide excitement (and is not at all uncommon in her circle - the scandal is not that she has an affair, but that she makes it all public by running away with Vronsky (which I think is part of what Karenin has difficulty forgiving her for.) Princess Betsy has no problem with illicit affairs; it's Anna's need for love and her subsequent public "outing" (if you will) of the affair that is the problem for Betsy's circle. If Anna had been a hypocrite, she would have been all right!

Heh! Now I really want to read the novel again!

Date: 2007-09-28 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I am always surprised that in most adaptations it's Levin and Kitty's story that gets dropped. because their story is just as prominent and important as Anna and Vronsky's. I actually rather like Vronsky but Anna ends up annoying me.

Date: 2007-09-27 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carviangli.livejournal.com
Aamir Khan has a blog?! I L U BOLLYWOOD!!^^

Yaaaaaaay!! And he replies?!

*dies*

Oh and Anna Karenina is soo on my to read list(which is massive so it may be a while)

Date: 2007-09-28 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Aamir is so COOL.

russian cinema

Date: 2007-09-27 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fire-snake.livejournal.com
I am not going to mention any more about AK, since I rambled quite a bit about her yesterday (I still think that being alive is much more preferable to being dead, as the second is irreversible unless you are a follower of Count Dracula). If you think about it, a lot of Russian movies were really musicals on screen, therein lies their similarity with Bollywood. Even "12 chairs" with Andrey Mironov was essentially a musical, and we all knew the song from "Neulovimye Mstiteli," and it was a part of its attraction to us. If not for that song that I heard many times before watching the movie, I would have never seen it. How about "Gost'ya is Buduschego," "Priklucheniya Electronika," etc? I still remember them, and you actually played one of them at your wedding:)

Re: russian cinema

Date: 2007-09-28 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
unless you are a follower of Count Dracula

OK, I choked now.

And I so agree on Russian movies. The song from Gost'ya is one of my favorte ever and that's the one they played at the wedding.

Date: 2007-09-27 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janlake83.livejournal.com
is it wrong that i have not seen any Anna Karenina adaptations..... but i have read it a few years ago and i have to say, by the end of it i would have shoved her on the oncoming train, i understand that yes its hard for her she ran away with her lover and her husband refuses to let her see her child, but come on she made a decision, thats part of the consequences.

and my sister has seen Across the Universe, and told me its like being on an acid trip. maybe its a movie to be watched when one is high????

Date: 2007-09-28 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I agree about Anna. Seriously, stick to it, lady.

And that is a great description of AtU

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