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Apologies to everyone who’s friended me for other reasons (99% of you :D) because for the next week or so, this is likely to become a Harry Potter zone. But you know, last book and all that.

And speaking of that, here is a long DH post. Warning: it’s about my favorite Trio member, Ron Weasley. And (obviously) as I love him, this is rather gushy. So, if you can’t stand the guy, you are obviously entitled to your opinion, but the stuff below cut it probably not your cup of butterbeer.



OMG. Ron.

RON.

With DH, Ron has definitely become my favorite member of the Trio for good (interestingly, he is also Mr. Mousie’s favorite, but because (according to him) Ron ‘reads’ like a real guy, and Harry doesn’t at all).

I love rooting for the underdogs, and I just love that here, confounding all usual cliché expectations, the ‘sidekick’ got to be heroic, and smart, and live, and get the girl. But all without becoming an unrealistic Gary Stu (Ron is riddled with insecurities) or detracting a bit from Harry’s achievement and glory.

If Harry’s ultimate quality is bravery (and I will be doing a Harry essay later, never fear), and Hermione’s is intelligence, Ron’s is loyalty. It must have taken a pretty loyal person to remain friends with people who always outshine him (Hermione in studies and Harry in ‘fame’), when he comes from the family where his oldest brothers always ‘got there’ first.

And that’s the thing, Ron sticks no matter what. It took a horcrux (very like the Ring, isn’t it? I think it made more headway with Ron than with Harry because Harry is used to V and Hermione is so incredibly prosaic and matter of fact) to make him snap and walk out, and even then, he wanted to get back immediately and couldn’t because of the snatchers (someone somewhere said it’s the equivalent of leaving the room in the middle of the fight, only due to the circumstances, when you cool off in a minute, the room has been buried by rubble and gone). And he spent all his time after getting away looking for them, by himself, in the middle of winter! And fished Harry of the lake, saving his life.

I love characters who can make me laugh (his comments do make me LOL) and can make me cry: the scene where he destroys the horcrux, OMG. Despite the horcrux throwing everything at him, everything in his face, taunting him with being the least loved of the Weasley children (he does get lost in the shuffle, doesn’t he? Bill was Head Boy and curse breaker (and eldest) and Charlie the quidditch wonder, and Percy the super-swot, and Fred and George are hard to overlook because they are Fred and George, and Ginny is the only girl), and Hermione preferring Harry etc etc.

And how he is shaking afterwards and Harry comforts him. Harry has grown up a lot, hasn’t he? Just as all of them have. I love it when he tells Ron that Hermione cried for a week after he left.

The thing is, much as I adore Ron/Hermione (about it more below), I love Ron/Harry friendship just as much. The Trio really is incomplete without each other.

And oh. OH. Ron/Hermione.

SO MUCH LOVE.

I love R/H so much because it’s like Wash/Zoe in Firefly, or Willow/Oz in high school Buffy. It just works. They just fit, it’s real and everyday, and no less glorious for being so. Harry/Ginny is this heroic romance trope, because he is the hero, but R/H are like people I know, like anyone, like someone I might pass on the street.

I love that he bought that advice book on how to woo/deal with women, LOL, so he can appeal to Hermione more and know how to treat her correctly (eeeeee).

I love that he asks her to dance at Bill and Fleur’s wedding: heeee, such a flashback to GoF when she told him if he was jealous of Krum he should have asked her to dance himself. So this time he did ;)

I love it when he walks out and she runs after him, crying his name (awwwww, when he tells her he heard, later).

I love that when he returns it’s not some big smoochy thing but her hitting him and being mad and…it’s just so real and normal. And Ron is keeping his head down to be in her good books :P

And OMG OMG 'You can have me, keep me' is my favorite phrase in all HP books EVER. I mean. OMG. I literally shrieked when I read that. It’s like every fiction otp kink I ever had. But in a Harry Potter book. I never thought it would happen, ever. In a drama, yes. But in HP? OMG.

Ron begging Bellatrix to take him instead of Hermione to torture?

*is dead in glee*

And then he is clawing at the walls and sobbing her name and trying to get out of the dungeon.

So much love.

I love that their first kiss is after Ron, matter of factly, expressed concern for the house elves, and getting them out of Hogwarts. Because that is the thing. I doubt Hermione would ever get Ron to join SPEW but Ron is decent, he cares for others, and he thinks about them, just as he was fretting about the ‘mudblood’ family earlier in the book even though he was super-injured himself. Fun foreshadowing btw, as at that point Hermione was looking at him super-tenderly, and with the elves...heeeee.

I love that it’s Hermione who after all makes the first move and runs to him and kisses him (heeeee, it’s like all her pent-up emotions exploded) and he kisses her back and lifts her off her feet *swooooooon* (tall guy/short girl eeeeee!) and when Harry asks if that is the time (as they are preparing for the last battle), Ron is so unabashed with his ‘it’s now or never.’

And at the end, the epilogue, and they are married and have kids and…OK, this turned into a R/H post but whatever.

I would love to read a fic where Hermione introduces Ron to her parents ;)
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Date: 2007-07-23 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yes, it really worked. Every time when the Trio became a duo in the books, you really felt like something was missing. A sense of fun maybe? Something all Weasleys seem to be born with, even Percy (with his marvelous 'I am resigning').

Date: 2007-07-23 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missmarch.livejournal.com
I love all the trio, but I think Ron has always been my least favorite. This is a nice defense of him here.

I never shipped much in HP books, but my leanings have always been towards H/Hr. This was the first book where I felt like R/Hr worked. Their first kiss was great-I was really happy that it came after the elf comment and it wasn't something he said to please her. He had changed. I always felt like Ron didn't take her opinions on that issue very seriously.

I didn't like the epilogue though and I still find H/G deathly dull.

Date: 2007-07-23 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
The epilogue was OK to me. I just felt happy to breathe after the rollercoaster.

Re: H/G. I like Ginny just fine but I always mainly liked H/G because I love Harry and she was what Harry wanted.

Date: 2007-07-23 03:47 pm (UTC)
ancarett: (HP Kicking Ass (Molly Weasley))
From: [personal profile] ancarett
I so love Ron. And the whole Weasley family dynamic in all their very human, idiosyncratic ways. Thanks for this wonderful celebration of Ron!

Date: 2007-07-23 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thanks!

I love all the Weasleys. They are really the family everyone wants to have: funny and cohesive and loving.

And I just realized that Ron and Harry are brothers in law now! The Trio really is related now, officially :) I wonder who got married first.

Date: 2007-07-24 12:10 am (UTC)
ancarett: (HP "Sunlit Days")
From: [personal profile] ancarett
It's OBHWF for sure!

I suspect that Ron and Hermione tied the knot first because Molly would want to spend a lot of time perfecting Ginny's nuptials. (Poor Harry & Ginny with all that fuss.)

Date: 2007-07-24 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yeah, I can see that. The wedding that would drive everyone mad :)

Date: 2007-07-23 03:50 pm (UTC)
morwen_peredhil: (hp america fuck yeah - by floating_icons)
From: [personal profile] morwen_peredhil
I can't be the only one who got to the part where Hermione and Ron disappeared for a bit before the big battle and immediately thought, "They don't want to die virgins!" can I? I don't think they spent all that time fetching basilisk teeth!

Date: 2007-07-23 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
LOL. I didn't think of that, but I was so bleary eyed by that point, I am afraid I would have missed it even if it was emblazoned in giant letters.

Date: 2007-07-23 08:12 pm (UTC)
morwen_peredhil: (hp america fuck yeah - by floating_icons)
From: [personal profile] morwen_peredhil
Not only that, but it was pretty damn obvious to me what Ginny's birthday present to Harry was going to be, if only they hadn't been so rudely interrupted!

Date: 2007-07-23 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
LOL.

I guess she should have locked the door :)

Date: 2007-07-23 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fivil.livejournal.com
Oooh, Ron love. Without a doubt, this is my favourite HP character. At first he just made me laugh but then, the more I read, the more I grew to love him as a whole. And yes, you're so right about R/Hr as the 'ordinary' ship, and I've always thought of Ron as this ordinary BOY, and everything about him reflects that, really. Like the way he treats Hermione before Twelve Ways to Charm Witches comes along, it's so clueless and boyish, because he honestly just doesn't know how to treat girls. I love him for his flaws, really, his quick temper and jealous ways and stubbornness and insecurities. But also his good sides, loyalty and humor and wit.

love that their first kiss is after Ron
First kiss ON PAGE, is what I keep telling myself. He and Hermione seemed so ..together in the beginning of the book that in my head I wrote a million "making out all over Burrow in an awkward teenage-y manner" fics in my head. But y'know, that's just me. :P

I also loved how the kiss was hot and fantastic and yet comical with Harry being like "Um, hello, fight with Voldemort, everything at stake here ... mind snogging your brains out another time?". Hilarious.

Date: 2007-07-23 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Ron is my favorite character too. He is just so...guyish.

Like the way he treats Hermione before Twelve Ways to Charm Witches comes along, it's so clueless and boyish, because he honestly just doesn't know how to treat girls. I love him for his flaws, really, his quick temper and jealous ways and stubbornness and insecurities.

OMG. He is Jiro's character in Hana Kimi? :P

"making out all over Burrow in an awkward teenage-y manner" fics in my head. But y'know, that's just me. :P

I dunno, I thought it was their first kiss. Like they knew the other liked them, but didn't act on it yet. I think that is part of the reason the horcrux was doing H/Hr to Ron.

Date: 2007-07-23 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hachi-08.livejournal.com
I really, really liked Ron in this book, as well! To me, Ron was previously someone I liked because Harry liked him, but he always blundered and said the wrong things or was completely dense and such.

But this book changed my mind about him; Ron became a character who could stand on his own, who was fantastic in his own right. I love that he finally grew up and could say mature, insightful things to other people. I love how he finally faced his insecurities and the trio became stronger than ever. I love him for the compassion he showed to the Ministry guy and his muggle-born wife. Most of all, I just loved Ron. He really came into his own in this one, didn't he?

Date: 2007-07-23 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I love him for the compassion he showed to the Ministry guy and his muggle-born wife. Most of all, I just loved Ron. He really came into his own in this one, didn't he?

Oh yes. He just grew up, and grew up lovely; and I loved that he didn't become some magic pattern of perfection either. Still snarky and laddish but such a good guy.

Date: 2007-07-23 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hachi-08.livejournal.com
To me, this book has cemented the fact that he is one of the best characters JKR has created. He has become such an amazing guy while remaining real and completely un-Gary-Stu-ish.

I stumbled across your entry via [livejournal.com profile] fivil, by the way~

Date: 2007-07-23 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildfirelies.livejournal.com
And OMG OMG 'You can have me, keep me' is my favorite phrase in all HP books EVER

What, where is this? I missed it completely! Possibly because I was reading at obscene hours of the morning!

And this is such a great post, you listed every reason I love Ron :)

Date: 2007-07-23 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
It's when the Trio is captured by Fenrir and taken to the Malfoys and Bellatrix has Ron and Harry dragged to the dungeon but keeps Hermione back for questioning.

Date: 2007-07-23 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malabud.livejournal.com
Yes, share the Ron love!

I would love to read a fic where Hermione introduces Ron to her parents

[livejournal.com profile] stmargarets has a fic called "Ron the Builder" where she does just that. She's only posted snippets so far, and she is considering reworking the story in light of the new canon. I'm pretty sure she posted that scene, though.

Of course, it'd be hard to introduce him to her parents right away, since they're in Australia and don't know they even have a daughter. Man, that Hermione can be scarily calculating at times.

Date: 2007-07-23 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Eeee! Thanks for the tip.

Yeah, Hermione is frighteningly ruthless. I wouldn't want to cross her.

Date: 2007-07-23 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ulkis.livejournal.com
I love R/H so much because it’s like Wash/Zoe in Firefly, or Willow/Oz in high school Buffy.

Hee. I was thinking another reason I loved them were because they were like the Xander/Willow hook-up I never got in Buffy. But I can see both comparisons.

Ron is so unabashed with his ‘it’s now or never.’

I think my favorite Ron line was, "all's fair in love or war mate, and this is a little bit of both."

Great post!

Date: 2007-07-23 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I think my favorite Ron line was, "all's fair in love or war mate, and this is a little bit of both."

I loved that bit! :)

Date: 2007-07-23 10:30 pm (UTC)
ext_50: Amrita Rao (HP Love Triangle)
From: [identity profile] plazmah.livejournal.com
Ron was definitely at his best in this book. The courage he showed in destroying the locket, how hysterical and panicked he was with Bella torturing Hermione, and that kiss! I can see where Mr. Mousie comes from; Ron is a more realistic "guy" than Harry is to me too.

Date: 2007-07-24 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
He does come across as someone you can see running to the pub :)

Date: 2007-07-24 08:43 pm (UTC)
ext_50: Amrita Rao (Default)
From: [identity profile] plazmah.livejournal.com
Hanging at the pub, waxing poetic about footie, etc. ;)

Date: 2007-07-23 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janlake83.livejournal.com
thank goodness i wasn't the only one who loved how ron was in this book... i mean yeah he left but he regretted it and i thought the whole book on how to treat women was just hillarious and the way he compliments her to look good in her eyes... and the slight bit of green when he found out krum was at the wedding and trying to keep hermione away from him... adorable... and that kiss!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!! i loved that harry was like "is now the right time?" i was like yes it sooooooooooo long overdue and yeay for it...

and i wondered if hermione's parents ever came back to england after the battle since you know they are in australia without any memory of her.... i think she brought them back... is it just me or in the epilogue when ron was like i passed the drivers test is like something his dad would have been very very happy about... and his daughter is like hermione and his proud of that...soooo cool.... yes i love the RON/HERMIONE OTP!!!

Date: 2007-07-24 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I hope she brought her parents back.

And Ron=love.

Date: 2007-07-25 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
He was brilliant wasn't he? ^^. I'm linking this essay on my review if you don't mind :).

Date: 2007-07-27 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Of course I don't mind.

And he is so my favorite character!

Date: 2007-07-25 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvensapphire.livejournal.com
Ron really showed his Gryffindor colours in this one and it made me so happy. He and Hermione were wonderful.

Date: 2007-07-27 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yeah, I loved them even more than usual!

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