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Have started True Blood and it is most entertaining, in a vaguely trashy way. - will definitely keep going. Two points though, either one of which is probably going to be unpopular.

1. I am a grown-up with a child - I clearly know how babies are made. I am not 14 and sex ain't a mystery any more. Thus, having the story stop dead so some actors could have a poor imitation thereof gets really old, really fast. I fail to see any value in it - there is no appeal at all, as not only can I get real pr0n if I so desired from a multitude of pay-per-view services offered by my cable company, but as the actors are obviously not doing it, all that happens is my laughing at how "to make this work his #### would have to be 2 feet long" fake it looks. And it kills the flow of the story as well.

Blahblahblah, you are daring, now go back to the plot!

2. Bill/Sookie. I love them, I ship them. They are so my fictional kink, it hurts. Which, as far as I can tell, makes me this fandom's equivalent of Duncan/Veronica shipper. Ahhh, well. It doesn't help that I do not get the thing about Eric - I have never gone for bad boys and, yes, I know this is freaky, I find the actor for Eric really "wrong" looking. Something about his face bugs me - I know everyone finds him gorgeous but I find him offputting-looking, to say the least.

Date: 2009-09-06 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidwish.livejournal.com
Oh, the show is totally trashy. It's a nice guilty pleasure. I should of stopped watching long ago, but I find I just can't. The books now, are a completely different monster... much more cozy paranormal mystery.

Although, I'm a great fan of the books I've never had much of a ship preference either way.

Date: 2009-09-08 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I tried one book and gave up - boring.

The show is fun :)

Date: 2009-09-06 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filmi-girl.livejournal.com
Hee! You are watching! The sex is toned down a lot after the first few episodes, so don't worry... :)

And I liked Bill a lot in the beginning, too - there is just something about how he starts treating Sookie later that bothers me. Too possessive by a long ways. I'll be curious to know what you think after S1!

How far have you gotten?!

Date: 2009-09-06 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisterjune.livejournal.com
there is just something about how he starts treating Sookie later that bothers me. Too possessive by a long ways.

WORD. I totally thought bill was fine at first. but after a while I was just like "wow he's kind of a jerk". I guess it helps I didnt read the books so I had no preconcieved biases going into it.

Date: 2009-09-06 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filmi-girl.livejournal.com
LOL! I couldn't get into the books at all - way too much like romance novels for my tastes and Bill reminds me a lot of those domineering romance novel heroes.

Eric does become a lot more sympathetic in S2 - he reminds me a lot of Logan from Veronica Mars actually. At first you're all "Ew! Why does everybody like that guy?" and then you have 8,000 Logan icons the next day. ;

Not that I speak from personal experience or anything... ;P

Date: 2009-09-08 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Beginning of S1 - baby demands to be fed :)

Date: 2009-09-06 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sisterjune.livejournal.com
yay more TB watchers!

1. This actually is toned down a huge amount in the second season and most graphic of the seasons end mid season of S1. So you wont have to deal with them for much longer. they are annoying though I do enjoy seeing ryan kwanten shirtless all the time heh.

2. I think the thing that puts off alot of people about bill/sookie is his attitude towards sookie, more prevalent in later eps but honestly TV!bill isnt that bad, chauvinistic yes but not anywhere as terrible as his book counterpart IMO. I think Eric becomes much more compelling in S2 as a character. In S1 he's really just a glorified extra. I dont know if I'd say I have a thing for Eric (he's kind of a huge dick, in fact most of the men on the show are except lovely Sam) but I definitely have a thing for the actor, Alexander Skarsgaard.
Edited Date: 2009-09-06 04:23 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-08 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Chauvinistic never bugged me in fiction - I come from chauvinistic culture in rl so am used to that sort of thing even if wouldn't want to it for myself.

Date: 2009-09-06 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ambergold.livejournal.com
nono, I totally ship Bill/Sookie too! and you know I had the same response re the graphic, idiotic sex scenes:) what everyone else is saying is true - they start getting pared down later, though the violence remains as far as I could tell(I took a break midway through s1 because soo much violence and darkness and sexual overtones).

apparently season 2 Eric gets awesome or something and I think he might have been the OTP in the books? That's the only reason I can think of for why he's the popular OTP.

Date: 2009-09-08 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yesssss! I am not alone!

Date: 2009-09-06 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] syrenstar.livejournal.com
I started developing all the usual symptoms of shipping but as I wasn't in the mood to have my heart broken by another UC couple I dropped the show and watched Gossip Girl instead.



Date: 2009-09-08 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
GG makes me laugh too much to follow it.

Date: 2009-09-06 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
I have no interest at all in the series and disliked the one book I read (not wanting vampires around your kid isn't like not wanting your white kid to sit at the table with a black kid NO IT IS NOT) but I have to say that, based on stills, neither guy is really that good looking at all, IMO.

Date: 2009-09-06 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Ahahahaha, WHUT?

I couldn't care less whether my kid sat next to a waspiest wasp or a Black transgender kid who is Muslim (or which one of the two she chose to date, either) but I would certainly care if that kid is someone who feeds on blood and whose default mode is to drain humans dry.

Prejudice based on color of skin = racist and moronic. Prejudice based on basic facts of vamp's diet = kid less likely to be eaten.

*rolls eyes*

I confess I do not get vamp=sexy default in modern fiction. Since when is reanimated corpse that drinks human blood (and thus probably has nasty breath) a sex symbol? Also, unless it's a very recently made vamp, the tptb should really explain what he/she does with his time and, if their otp is not likewise 200yrs old, why they glom onto them - I would think it odd for a 60yr old to chase a college student. It's even weirder when the older person is 200 even if he looks 30. If you explain it well, fine - otherwise *roll eyes*

Date: 2009-09-06 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
It's the current popular trend. Using vampirism as an allegory for racism/homophobia/etc. Because the best way to draw attention to a group of people who regularly experience prejudice as they go about their daily lives is to compared them to a soulless undead being that eats people.

Some discussion of the trend in comments here: http://meganbmoore.livejournal.com/1023652.html

Date: 2009-09-06 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
I would certainly care if that kid is someone who feeds on blood and whose default mode is to drain humans dry.

Bigot! Bring on the torches!

(This was one of the problems I had with the only book of the series I read. And I also do not really get the vampires = sexy thing. Though, I guess they are probably better than werewolves on that front. This is probably why - despite my almost inexhaustible appetite for bad and trashy TV - I have not yet watched True Blood.)

Date: 2009-09-06 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grace-om.livejournal.com
So with you on #1. Nudity is fine, but simulated sex tends to toss me right out of the story. I end up feeling vaguely embarrassed for the poor actress who has to have some guy's hands and mouth all over her, whether she likes him or not.

Bill really loves Sookie and that counts for a lot, but still he is a vampire and Sookie tends to forget certain aspects of that...to her peril. We'll see how they take things in the show.

I think the pairing I love most is Hoyt and Jessica, but you probably haven't gotten there yet, so I won't say any more.

Date: 2009-09-08 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yup, haven't met either Hoyt or Jessica

Date: 2009-09-06 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artic-fox.livejournal.com
I totally didn't get the Eric thing either. I only kind of started to get it now, late S2. And even then I only say "kind of". My opinion of the characters has kind of evolved along with the show, so it is weird. Curious to know your thoughts further down the line!

Date: 2009-09-08 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I am planning to obsessively marathon to catch up :)

Date: 2009-09-06 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
agree about the fake!sex and I don't like Eric either because he looks like he could be my cousin (I have a lot of tall nordic cousins, not that he looks like me, since I am short and dark lol)

I don't love Bill/Sookie so much, but I really liked it when she ran to his house in a long white gown, lol.

Date: 2009-09-08 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I can't wait to get to the gothicy white gown part :)

Date: 2009-09-06 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mishane.livejournal.com
Heh, unfortunately I read the books so Bill is tainted for me, I cannot like him. He is okay in the show, I didn't dislike him as much as I did in the books.

I haven't watched the second season yet, which is apparently where everyone jumps ship and goes from Bill to Eric, but I'm not surprised. If they continue the show the way they do the books, Eric will end up the OTP.

I'm not advocating the books by the way, they were like trashy romance novels with supernatural elements.

Date: 2009-09-06 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filmi-girl.livejournal.com
Thank you for confirming the Eric OTP in the books!

I hadn't bothered to read them but I think they're following the romance closely, no?

Date: 2009-09-06 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Does she really switch otps halfway through?

Because then I am out.

That is one of the main reasons I do not watch American shows (the other reason is they either run too long or get cancelled).

I loathe when the protagonist, be he male or female, has an otp to end all otps to all appearances and then moves on and has another otp to end all otps, and then a third etc.

It just - drives me crazy. The "soulmate-hopping." Ugh.

So warn me? I will then check out Angel instead (not that the soulmate thing worked out well for him, lol)

Date: 2009-09-06 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filmi-girl.livejournal.com
I think she's just dating Bill now but her OTP will be Eric! (At least that's how I see it... XD )

Date: 2009-09-06 11:00 pm (UTC)
ext_21773: (Lex)
From: [identity profile] village.livejournal.com
I don't think Bill/Sookie was ever meant to be the OTP but the television show does at times veer away from the book so one never knows what really will happen.

Eric really isn't much of anything in the first season but I do prefer him to Bill and it's possibly because of the way Bill (Stephen Moyer) pronounces the name "Sookie" and is always "She is MINE" all over the place. I just find myself giggling and rolling my eyes all at the same time.

I don't really "ship" anyone although my preference is Eric/Sookie. I really watch for the character stuff and the storylines when they get to that. ;)

Date: 2009-09-07 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grace-om.livejournal.com
Er, the last book left it unclear as to which of them will be her one and only true OTP in the end. Suffice it to say it's not smooth sailing for Sookie and Bill.

The show, however, is a different animal. They are diverging from the books in many ways, so who knows what they will do. Although I do predict some rocky times coming for S/B, surely that's no bad thing?

Date: 2009-09-06 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] om-shakti.livejournal.com
There is less sex in the show than there is in the first book!

I don't hate Bill as much as everyone else does.. but Eric isn't a bad guy at all, imo, so i actually love him. Normally i don't like the bad guys either. Though i agree.. Alex Skarsgard does nothing for me when he's not playing a vampire.. the eric persona does him worlds of good, if i see him out of character i just don't think he's attractive at all. I was actually on the fence between team bill/eric before i started reading the books. In the show, honestly, i don't mind that much. Probably because TV sookie (more than book sookie) just seems so weak & childish sometimes (why do i usually dislike the lead character of my fandoms?!), i'm not as bothered by someone having the protective instinct over her. Gender aside, i'd probably speak for her too if i was around her.

Date: 2009-09-08 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Really? I tried the first book and it didn't seem too graphic.

Date: 2009-09-08 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] om-shakti.livejournal.com
Did you read the whole thing? My husband counted the amount/spacing of sex scenes in book 1, it was like 3 or 4 within 40 pages or something crazy like that.

Date: 2009-09-06 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com
If it's HBO it must have lots of sex! I think this is one of the rules of the channel, but, because they are classy folk, it has to look bad. The sex in Rome was some of the least sexy sex I've ever seen.

Date: 2009-09-08 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Rome sex was hilarious. I remember it.

Date: 2009-09-07 06:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ilanala
I'm not sold on Bill/Sookie, but I do agree with you about Eric. I got the part where he shows up and went, "Wait, that's who everyone is so in love with?" Maybe he gets better later in the show, but I'm really not seeing the appeal.

And yeah, the sex is largely completely gratuitous. It's all very nice for them that they're having lots of sex, but I don't need to see it every time.

Date: 2009-09-08 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
It's all very nice for them that they're having lots of sex, but I don't need to see it every time.

Exactly.

Not to mention it looks so boring!

Date: 2009-09-07 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catdecember.livejournal.com
I've started True Blood S2, so I've been an Eric fan. Jason too, but his dumbness = entertaining. but I've been told Bill/Sookie is quite exciting in S1, which I will find out once my beloved dvds arrive on Tuesday.

Anyway, we're all mature adults here, so I won't fist fight you for saying that Eric is wrong looking. ;)

Date: 2009-09-08 02:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-08 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popaddict.livejournal.com
Bill/Sookie, bore.

I like Eric but I don't care if he hooks up with Sookie or not, I just think she needs to release the dead weight named Bill.

True Blood is trashy fun but it's not about Sookie or Bill for me. The supporting characters are the best part of this series.

Duncan/Veronica is an abomination. I vote No and Never and OMDB.

Date: 2009-09-08 02:32 am (UTC)
ext_21773: (Veronica Mars)
From: [identity profile] village.livejournal.com
I'm with you on all counts. So just total word to your whole post. *g*

Date: 2009-09-08 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I actually kinda liked D/V potential in S1. S2 really wrecked it though.

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