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Reading comments on the Time of India website, relating to an article addressing the scandal of Bollywood actor's Shiney Ahuja being accused of rape by his 18-yr-old maid (the cops have corroborating evidence of sexual assault) is...interesting.

There are reasonable people and then there are people like this:

I think (assume) that being the victim of a false rape accusation is as traumatizing (if not more) as being a victim of rape itself.

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Shiney attempting to rape his young 18yo maid in the absence of his wife is not such an impossibile situation . Any man is prone to such an eventuality in a moment of weakness.

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Today the most misused laws are the dowry and rape laws. Even in murder cases, the system of natural justice is used but in these cases, the sole testimony of the prosecutrix is enough to crucify anyone. A day may come, when men will have to take written permission, even from their wives to make love.

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As to calling the young actor a pervert: take it easy. He allegedly abused his power over a young servant girl when no one else was around, unable to control his sexual urges and consider the negative consequences of forcing himself on a virgin. He is not the only one who indulges in sexual urges like that. Being a handsome Bollywood star he probably didn't expect such a reaction from a servant.

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A person who only drink Mineral water will drink municipality tap water when he is really thristy and when mineral is not available.

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Please y would a handsome guy like Shiny rape a maid wen he will have millions of pretty gals falling over each other to get 'raped' by him . And I am sure he is not that type. Therez more to the story then meets the eye.

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Why everyone is considering the maid as a good character woman. Shiney is a big film star and he will have access to all top class girls and women in the society. On the top of that, Sex is a thing which is widely available in the Market. So, having these many options, Why Shiney will go to a low class un civilized woman. Grow up guys ,,, just think logically.

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he was so much overwhelmed by sexual emotions that he has taken this step!

Most important why his wife is staying away from him in Delhi? She should have tayed with him so that his emotions would have been in control.

Osho has rightly said one must accept ones sexual needs and only when they are satisfied one tries to think of Nirvana!

Many terrorist born when they have unfullfilled sexual needs!

Any way its good lesson to all wifes who deny sex to their husbands.


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Since I cannot top that last comment, which implies it's the fault of womankind that terrorists exist, I shall stop.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scanky-chops.livejournal.com
I think the only way to respond to this is: WTF?!

I hate how fans will try and justify the horrible things their stars do, even going so far into denial. I'm sure i've done something like that but never to the extent of trying to justify rape.

Urgh. I feel like i should wash my eyes after reading those statements...

Date: 2009-06-18 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] endlessdeep.livejournal.com
Wow. Why do we let men have all the power positions. They can't seem to control their emotions. No wonder this world is int he state it's in.

I just can't even believe these comments. *dumbfounded*

Date: 2009-06-18 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
A person who only drink Mineral water will drink municipality tap water when he is really thristy and when mineral is not available.

Personal "favorite". The elegance of it is just... ewwww.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seven-trees.livejournal.com

I think (assume) that being the victim of a false rape accusation is as traumatizing (if not more) as being a victim of rape itself.


WHAT?! How stupid do you have to be to think like this? My god, even a brain-dead chimp has more emotional sensitivity than this douche.

Any man is prone to such an eventuality in a moment of weakness.

And what? They're too good to use they're right hand to take care of the problem?

Date: 2009-06-18 09:14 pm (UTC)
ilanala: (koichi aaaaah!)
From: [personal profile] ilanala
Didn't you say he confessed to the rape? In which case why the hell are people still trying to defend him?

Date: 2009-06-18 09:17 pm (UTC)
ext_6385: (Failboat)
From: [identity profile] shewhohashope.livejournal.com
A day may come, when men will have to take written permission, even from their wives to make love.

Um, that day already came?

Date: 2009-06-18 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] equustel.livejournal.com
WOW. Just, wow. I think the fourth one broke my brain the most, because it perpetuates the biggest myth in the world that men "cannot control their sexual urges". HELLO. If you're a teen getting all hot and heavy with your high school gf/bf and your parents walk in are you going to say "SORRY, CAN'T STOP, IT'S UNCONTROLLABLE"... I think not.

Not to mention that half these comments completely ignore the fact that he IS A MARRIED MAN.

Incredible.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
Since I personally believe any man who commits rape should have their balls cut off, I'm probably not the best to comment on this, but WHAT THE HELL!? Couldn't control his sexual urges?! I love that the people quoted seem to miss the concept that rape is a power issue, not a necessarily a sexual one.

I did have to smother a chuckle at the "municipality tap water" comment.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
I love that the second comment makes one assume that every male is a ticking time bomb. I don't know where the writer grew up, but I don't want to go anywhere near there apparently.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Apparently they are now reporting that he "only" confessed to consensual sex, using the good old "she asked for it" excuse. Sterling, sterling human being that he is.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
LOL

I think he means every single time you need a written contract? Not sure as am not resident of same lunacy town he seems to be inhabiting.

Poor, poor oppressed men. I weep for them.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
you're a teen getting all hot and heavy with your high school gf/bf and your parents walk in are you going to say "SORRY, CAN'T STOP, IT'S UNCONTROLLABLE"...

Hahahahaaa. I'd pay money to see that. If someone cannot control their sexual urges at all, they are a danger to society and should be locked up.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seven-trees.livejournal.com
I love that the second comment makes one assume that every male is a ticking time bomb.

They always use that excuse! Oh, poor them, they couldn't help themselves.

Maybe men should be kept in cages then, since they obviously have no sense of self-control.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grace-om.livejournal.com
Many terrorist born when they have unfullfilled sexual needs!

Thank you poster, for telling what we really need to do to win "the war on terror!"

All of these, just...

Date: 2009-06-18 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I am willing to admit that for some people it's both a power and sexual issue (i.e. they get off sexually on dominating other people through force, or they are such a psycopath that to them their pleasure of a moment is all and other people's wants don't even merit a thought) but the fact is - whether it's because they are power freaks or sexual maniacs, doesn't matter - the latter is not an excuse!

If I can't control my urge to murder people, guess what? It might be nuthouse instead of a prison, but I am still going to get locked up away from society.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:34 pm (UTC)
ext_6385: (Failboat)
From: [identity profile] shewhohashope.livejournal.com
Oh, right! I missed the 'written' bit.

It's the same lunacy town wherein being accused of rape is worse than being raped, probably.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I really doubt most terrorists would turn into hippie peacenicks only if their wives put out more - it must be an interesting place to visit, the outer planet that poster lives on...
Edited Date: 2009-06-18 09:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-06-18 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Seriously. I think this is the one that made my eyes bug out most.

I am sure to be falsely accused of any serious crime one did not commit sucks severely. But to compare it with an actual rape? You have got to be kidding me!

Date: 2009-06-18 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wasabi-girl1.livejournal.com
The mentality of Indian men on the internet is just TERRIBLE, trust me. I usually just steer clear of their insanity on BW sites and the like, because, well, ugh, you see why. They sometimes pop up on Youtube too and that usually gets really ugly. :P
Edited Date: 2009-06-18 09:37 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-06-18 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Maybe men should be kept in cages then

There is a drama like that - "Handsome Siblings," with two powerful women martial artists running some sort of a 'defense of wronged women' thing where they and their quasi-son protege go and stick offending men in cages in their cave. I was all for it, until it turned out that the head lady was, of course, evil, and spent her free time plotting to torture quasi-son in most effective manner to avenge the fact that his dad didn't like her. Ahhhh, feminists. Always bugfuck insane and man-starved.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Youtube comments in general are a scary scary place.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
And what? They're too good to use they're right hand to take care of the problem?

But his hand needed a break! I think they should jail his wife because she wasn't around so it's all her fault *barf*

Date: 2009-06-18 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
So sensitive and understated, that commenter was.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
. They can't seem to control their emotions. No wonder this world is int he state it's in.

If men really were the way some of these posters describe, that would explain a lot.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Seriously. Crazy fans = scary.

I actually like Shiney's movies. But all evidence points to the fact that he is unredeemable scum as a person. Why would anybody think goodlooking&talented = nice?

Date: 2009-06-18 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
Yeah, I love the irrationalness of that argument. If men are incapable of controlling themselves, that line of thought leads to the fact that they should ALL be locked up then on principle.

CRITICAL THINKING FAIL!

Date: 2009-06-18 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seven-trees.livejournal.com
I think they should jail his wife because she wasn't around so it's all her fault

Obviously. Because you know that women need to be chained to the bed so that men can satisfy their needs 24/7. If not they'll lose control and accidentally rape some girl who was obviously begging for it.

And you know what's disgusting? Some people really think like this.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ambergold.livejournal.com
dot.dot.dot.

things like this make me despair of both humankind and humankind's ability to stay in touch with reality.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seven-trees.livejournal.com
If men are incapable of controlling themselves, that line of thought leads to the fact that they should ALL be locked up then on principle.

Yeah! I don't know how it all gets to be the woman's fault.

And I hate this whole "Men can't control themselves" shit. I mean, if they couldn't really control themselves, you would see more of them randomly humping a woman's leg on the street.

Date: 2009-06-18 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ambergold.livejournal.com
God, how I hate him. At least if he fessed up I'd have SOME small margin of respect left. ...actually, no I wouldn't, but a girl can dream.

Date: 2009-06-18 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Icon!

Reality is in alternate universe from these people

Date: 2009-06-18 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seven-trees.livejournal.com
I remember this! I think someone (might have been you) posted something about that drama while back. I'm still all for putting men who can't control themselves in cages, which apparently means putting them ALL in cages.

Date: 2009-06-18 10:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-06-18 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queen-haq.livejournal.com
I went on the indiafm website after I read your original post and the comments there completely disgusted me. They all implied it was the maid's fault or that she was lying. Ugh.

Date: 2009-06-18 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Me or meganbmoore were posting about it.

I was there mainly for the awesome h/c.

Date: 2009-06-18 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Ugh. Really? UGHHHHH.

Date: 2009-06-18 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-magrat.livejournal.com
I just... What?

This is so sad and disgusting. Oh humanity.

Date: 2009-06-18 10:43 pm (UTC)
ext_50: Amrita Rao (firefly: inara)
From: [identity profile] plazmah.livejournal.com
D:

RAGE. INCANDESCENT RAGE.

Date: 2009-06-18 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] om-shakti.livejournal.com
I ALSO RAGE!

It's times like this where my hippy peace-love-hugs-for-all mentality leaves and i honest-to-god want to inflict physical violence on these people. D:

Date: 2009-06-18 11:12 pm (UTC)
ext_50: Amrita Rao (firefly: inara)
From: [identity profile] plazmah.livejournal.com
Same here. I get all: "CAVES. WE SHOULD PUT THEM IN CAVES. FOREVER."

Date: 2009-06-18 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artic-fox.livejournal.com
Arghhhh, it still scares me that there are people in the world who think like this!

Date: 2009-06-19 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astrothsknot.livejournal.com
Attitudes towards female agency still have a ways to go in India sadly.

Date: 2009-06-19 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] om-shakti.livejournal.com
SEX-SEGREGATED CAVES! Just so they can't do any further damage to the genepool/young impressionable minds D:

Also, icon loooove!

Date: 2009-06-19 12:47 am (UTC)
ext_50: Amrita Rao (bollywood: jodhaa-akbar)
From: [identity profile] plazmah.livejournal.com
And they get no fire. THEY DON'T DESERVE IT.

(Thanks!)

Date: 2009-06-19 01:39 am (UTC)
ext_18106: (Roper facepalm)
From: [identity profile] lyssie.livejournal.com
Man. I'd love to hit them all over the head with [livejournal.com profile] cereta's recent post about rape culture.

Date: 2009-06-19 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katranna.livejournal.com
Then again, hippies are known for promiscuity and free love, no? :-P Maybe all we need to do to solve the problem of terrorism is send lots of pro bono prostitutes to the relevant areas. I'm sure all the people who were willing to kill and die to obtain the independence/autonomy of their land from some colonizing/empire power will forget alllllll about it if only they could have someone to keep them occupied in bed.

Date: 2009-06-19 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazypadawan.livejournal.com
Famous people are never guilty of anything.

Date: 2009-06-19 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
It burns! It burrrrrrrrrrrns!

Date: 2009-06-20 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ren-squared.livejournal.com
..............didn't he admit to it? therefore not a false accusation

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