dangermousie: (Firefly: Simon and River by gunneralchem)
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Ahahahahaaaa. I was looking for something else but came across this instead.

It's Morena Baccarin (who played Inara) revealing that Inara's secret (which was hinted at during the show) is that she was dying.

Color me unsurprised! It's Joss after all. His main OTPs are always put through hell that would put a kdrama writer to shame. Going by Joss' track record, I bet it would have been revealed right after she and Mal finally worked out their issues and got together. In fact, I bet they'd make bone-melting love and then she'd expire in his arms, or something similar. Bonus points for some manly tears or anguished screaming. Heh. I still haven't recovered from the whole Buffy/Angel angstorama.

Suddenly I remember why I feel only half-bad about there not being more eps. I bet if the show ran for 5 seasons, not only would Wash, Book, and Inara have bought it, but Simon and Kaylee would have managed to wreck it somehow and the show would end up with everyone dead or miserable...

To be fair, I always thought Mal himself was doomed. Doomed doomed doomed with a capital D. I was pretty sure that if the trilogy did materialize he would have bought it at the end of the last one.

Actually, my little Firefly re-binge made me think of *alas* Dollhouse and how in a way it's an extension of a particular idea in Firefly, even if Dollhouse is mediocre at best and morally repugnant and Firefly was neither. I think the idea of a dollhouse is a sort of extension of River's backstory. Think about it - a creepy corporation which takes people and messes with their minds turning them into whatever necessary. And a man obssessed with getting one of the women out.

EXCEPT. EXCEPT. In Firefly, that sub-story starts when Simon rescues River and they go on the run. The show never asks us to feel bad for people torturing River because *gasp* they might feel lonesome sometimes or occasionally crack a joke. It portrays that organization as soulessly evil and what they did to River unconscionable (not to mention it does not shirk from the fact that the effect of brain-messing damaged her almost irretrievably) -it's not all about the evil corporation, it's about people who escaped from it. Oh, and everything that Simon does for River is not creepy because he is her brother - he is fixated on rescuing her not because she is a fantasy of some sort, a woman he's never met or even seen, and who he is attracted to but because she is someone he grew up with, a sibling. Oh, and also the people in Firefly can be damn heroic and selfless and there isn't a single heroic individual on Dollhouse - they are either brain-washed manequins or evil whoremasters...

Date: 2009-05-23 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycenae.livejournal.com
I agree with this post. The 13 episodes of Firefly were a fairly happy, upbeat show, but you're right, Whedon would have totally torn all that down if it had stayed on.

Dollhouse is just too blurry and weird. I mean, I see people making the argument that Whedon is maturing and dealing with more moral complexity instead of just good guys vs. overwhelming evil, but... Dollhouse is just too mixed up and confused. It's nihilism in spiked heels, and it thinks it's so cool.

Date: 2009-05-25 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
That's a great description of Dollhouse. And it's not even particularly clever nihilism, either!

Date: 2009-05-23 03:45 am (UTC)
ext_50: Amrita Rao (firefly: inara)
From: [identity profile] plazmah.livejournal.com
Damn, that's some great analysis of Firefly vs. Dollhouse, especially Dollhouse being an extension/reboot of the Simon-River story.

Date: 2009-05-23 06:14 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-05-25 08:24 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-05-23 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-magrat.livejournal.com
So that was her secret? Yeah, not suprising considering Joss' track record. After some time I came to love in Firefly the fact that it's only the beginning, with much things hinted at but almost nothing said for sure - that was the only possible way for the characters to have ar least a semi-happy ending (and look, they still managed to go on a killing spree in the movie!). The thing I most regret not seeing on the screen is probably the planned Simon's story, but I can live with that.

That's some great thoughts about Dollhouse being continuation of that Firefly idea! And yes, Ballard/Echo storyline creeps me out, while the very similiar Simon/River is one of the most touching on the show. In Simon's case he does it out of love to his sister - for Ballard it's just a weird fixation on some girl that in the end is about making him feel better.

Now that you pointed out the evil corporation similiarity as well - I'm a little curious as to where would this storyline evolve had Firefly got many seasons. They are portrayed in what have as evil, and I like that - but with say five seasons, I have this feeling they would try to make them a bit symphatetic, the whole portrayal of the government could evolve closer to what we have in Dollhouse. And I wounder how different it would appear on screen if at the same time we kept the core good main characters.

Date: 2009-05-25 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Was Simon supposed to have a particular story *intrigued*

Yeah, this thing would have ended in misery.

I was all set to love Ballard/Echo - I love the trope of a rescuer, I love the actors, but it just comes across as so sleazy to me here.

Date: 2009-05-26 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-magrat.livejournal.com
I remember reading somewhere that one of the elements of the Firefly 5-year plan was revelation that Simon was the 'secret weapon' developed by the government or something along these lines and River was mostly just a smokescreen. I don't know how accurate it was and I didn't see it mentioned anywhere else since then, but I like the idea, think it sounds good, and if something like that was actually planned from the beginning, they could be able to pull it off. I guess I'm just up for anything that makes Simon cool XD

Date: 2009-05-23 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
Inara... dying...

WHAT?

I'm still recovering from Walsh :(...

Date: 2009-05-25 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
If it didn't happen, it's not canon :)

Date: 2009-05-23 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artic-fox.livejournal.com
Okay, so I've never seen Firefly, but am considering starting as I know it is highly thought of even though it was prematurely cancelled. Plus I just finished S1 of Castle, and need more of a Nathan Fillion fix. You would recommend Firefly then?

Date: 2009-05-23 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Oh yes. YES. Firefly is one of my all-time favorite shows and Fillion is wonderful in it.

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