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I nearly choked at that line from Zai Tian to Mob Girl. Bwahahahahahaaaaaaa.



I watched eps 3 and 4 of Black and White and I am so ridiculously in love with this drama. It reminds me of the excitement I used to have over BOF before it went ridiculous and bad. It has a twisty plot, awesome production values, good clothes (it's like alternate reality drama fashion - nothing makes me cringe!) and characters I am madly in love with.



Seriously, the scriptwirter for this is ace, and so is the casting director. Now, I am a total Vic Zhou fangirl, so chances are I would have loved his character anyhow, but I realized after four eps that Zai Tian is my favorite character so far not just because of Vic - I just find ZT so very intriguing - on the surface he is this self-assured, good-natured flirt (sort of like Mars' Ling all grown-up) but there is something seriously else going on with him, he is quite a mystery - I don't mean the fact that he can be serious and oddly compassionate (like that scene with the elderly mother of the informant he knows is dead but she doesn't) as well as capable. That's normal enough. What I mean is the odd (lack of) background - he lives a lifestyle nobody can afford on a policeman's salary and he solves his cases via tips from an informant he has never seen but who is scarily connected to everything that goes on. Not to mention that Guo Yi the crazy drug dealer's comment to him that he recognizes him but his face used to look different. Huh? Zai Tian blows it off to Hero by quipping he went to Korea to get plastic surgery but he is clearly troubled by it and I bet that is not it at all - does he even remember his past? He seems to have no family or friends. And yet, he is clearly on the side of the good guys - he stops the train Guo Yi hijacked and catches Guo Yi, saves Hero's life and is clearly quite content to be a cop. Not to mention he confesses to their Chief about having a mysterious informant whose background he doesn't know. And then there is his running after the girl he saw in the club and yelling her name, quite desperately, and collpasing in a heap when he can't catch her. I wonder who she is. So - an enigma. And a very hot one.

These episodes also cemented my love for Hero, the other half of the cop duo. Marc Chao needs to be in more things - if I didn't know for sure, I'd never believe this is his first drama. Plus, mmmmm. So hot. Most men, even attractive ones, sort of fade into the wallpaper when they share the screen with Vic but I still notice Marc and his hotness, so that is huge. Also, in eps 1 and 2 we learned that Hero is tough and dedicated and straight-and-narrow, but eps 3 and 4 flesh him out rather more ambiguously and make him much more human - I loved his incredibly reluctant, dragged out "thank you" to Zai Tian for saving his life (I loved the dynamic he is developing with him), I loved his akwardness with the dead informant's mother, I loved that he wasn't superhuman enough to defeat Guo Yi when the car was full of drugs and affecting him, and I loved that he took the credit for Chen Lin's rescue (the Mob Girl is so very awesome) even though it was Zai Tian who got her out. (I think that might be my favorite scene so far, actually. Mob Girl coming to herself in the hospital, and Hero being there, and she assumes that it was he who carried her out and he doesn't correct her, not outright lying but confirming her misunderstanding by saying it's the policeman's duty to save people and the camera pans and you see Zai Tian standing there, unseen by either Chen Lin or Hero with a very complicated look on his face. And then he walks in and is his own goofball self). I wonder what Hero referred to, in conversation with Science Girl when he says he saw his own shadow - he used to think he stood squarely in the light but not any more. Is it his failure to stop the train? But it wasn't his fault, nobody in his position could have done so. Or is it the lie-by-ommission to Chen Lin? He clearly is beginning to really like her, which makes a huge deal of sense - to someone like him, a really really tough woman (she took on Guo Yi by herself and might have won if it wasn't for the drugs) who takes no nonsense from anyone, but is also very loyal and compassionate (see dead informant's mother - that is the moment Hero begins to like her I think - when he sees that woman in Chen Lin's care) is totally kryptonite. But of course, she is the Mob Lady and I think, regardless of anything else, his strict sense of morality would not be able to cope with that in the long run. I really ship him with Science Girl actually - they are good friends (she is the only one he opens up to) and clearly Science Girl likes him more than that. That scene, where Zai Tian invited her to "hang out" with him, Hero and Mob Girl - poor Science Girl (and that was pretty malicious of Zai Tian who alone knows how the other three feel. Unlike Hero who is very clear-cut and good, except for that lie, Zai Tian can be an utter ****). And no way does Hero not feel more towards Science Girl - he clearly is miserable she is there to see him with Mob Girl and mmmmmm - they stare at each other. Hotness.

As for Mob Girl? I love her to bits - any scene with her becomes more awesome, and any scene with her and the two cops? I glee and glee. I think she should have a super-hot threesome with them :) But joking aside, I ship her with Zai Tian so hard. So very hard. They have awesome chemistry but even better - they bicker non-stop and get into each other's faces - the scene in the hospital after Hero leaves and Zai Tian badgers her about Hero until she yells "Fine, I like that psycho and want him to be mine!" is comic gold. But also underlaid with serious chemistry between them. She might like Hero now (mmmmm - and who can blame her), but she is so going to get together with Zai Tian, and not just because both of them can seriously lack in scruples on occasion, not like Hero. They have the kind of antipathy which in fiction always leads to making out, you know? But as for now? He is totally uncowed and unawed by her, and she thinks he is a total pest (though with some depths - she really looked at him differently after his thing with the phone and dead informant's mother. Which was incredibly wonderful btw). Plus, she threw him on the hood of the police car at their first meeting, and he was the one who rescued her from the disaster train, carrying her unconscious body out (while Hero was too busy being heroic, heh, to bother about her). So yes, I ship them.

Ooooh, and the previews make me so impatient for eps 5 and 6! Zai Tian gets framed for the murder of police chief's daughter (the one he had a one-night stand with in the beginning). And Mob Girl's reason for liking Hero? When he carried her out, his shoulder made her think of her parents (i.e. presumably is comfortable and familiar etc). Only of course it wasn't him, it was Zai Tian and I love the look on Hero's face - it was such a little harmless lie of ommission but the more it goes forward, the harder it is to get out of it. Oh, and Guo Yi knows who Zai Tian is (or was). Hmmm. Oh, and somehow Mob Girl is in Zai Tian's apartment and omg - smooooochies! *shipper falily squee* God, please don't make him her long-lost sibling or something as the secret of who he is/was.

Mmmmmm...

Date: 2009-04-20 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
More Vic Zhou? Tell me WHERE!!!!

I am still waiting for the last few subbed eps of "wish to see you again" to be released, lol. I feel a bit pathetic.

Date: 2009-04-20 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Sublimes is releasing soft subs at

ohsosublime.blogspot.com/

Or you can stream at viikii:

http://www.viikii.net/channels/goto/blackandwhite

Date: 2009-04-20 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
Or I can stream it on megavideo, which solves the rmvb/subtitles/mac issue nicely.

OMG VIC ZHOU HAPPILY IN BED!!!!

OK, I'll shut up now. Even though that girl looks a lot like Barbie ;-)

Date: 2009-04-20 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
She does look like Barbie. Rather odd :)

It's such a fun drama - and it gets better!

Date: 2009-04-20 09:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vierran45.livejournal.com
Re: the rmvb/subtitles/mac issue:

I was having trouble with my Mac and rmvb with subtitles, but then I stumbled across this page and now I can get the subs to work with MPlayer for OS X. I just had to download and install the codec pack mentioned in this post and follow the instructions on setting up the subtitles :).

http://www.aboutonlinetips.com/play-rmvb-files-with-subtitles/
Edited Date: 2009-04-20 09:04 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-04-20 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
thanks--I'll have a look. I've had no joy with mplayer in the past, but I'm always willing to try. Maybe the right codec will do it!

Date: 2009-04-21 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
well, thanks for the link! I have tried & failed to get mplayer to work b4, I guess 3rd time's the charm! I am happily watching Black & white subbed now ... the font is uuuuuugggggggglllllllyyyyyyy but the rest is beautiful.

Thank you again! Tihs had changed my life ;-)

Date: 2009-04-21 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vierran45.livejournal.com
Great that it worked for you as well! B&W deserves to be watched in good quality :D...

You can change the default font by going to Preferences -> General -> Subtitles settings -> Choose the font you want from the Font menu.

Date: 2009-04-21 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
I tried that. but only the ugly one seems to work! I could play around with the default encoding, I guess, but I just wanted to watch. I did at least figure out how to make the subs smaller--ugly fonts look better when they don't take up so much room.

Date: 2009-04-20 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uisceros.livejournal.com
Sorry to butt in, but the last few episode of WtSYA have been released... but of course I just checked the fansub group that did them, and the site is down... I can upload them for you if you'd like.

Date: 2009-04-20 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
really???? (makes big puppy eyes)

I know that they were released with soft subs, but I can't watch the rmvb version with subs because I have a mac ... did they hardsub them? I've been checking daddicts DAILY, no lie!

Date: 2009-04-20 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
It's also on mysoju, I think.

Date: 2009-04-20 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
I've never used my soju, but it's like viikii or crunchy roll, no? A streaming site? I like the dl them because I like to be able to cap things, but honestly, I will take Vic anyway I can (hoping not to appear too deranged).

Date: 2009-04-20 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Streaming, yup. Let me know if it's not working for you - I have all eps dled on my spare hd and can upload for you.

Date: 2009-04-20 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uisceros.livejournal.com
As far as I know they didn't hardsub them.

I have the softsub version. Have you tried MPlayer? I don't have a mac, but from what I've heard, that player will play rmvb files with the subs. You might need some codecs to get it to work though.

Heh! I know about the waiting! I waited about 4 or 5 months for WtSYA to be finished! It was terribly excruciating!

Date: 2009-04-21 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
having learnt how to use mplayer to watch rmvb raws with subs, I happily went to the eternal fs blog and dl'd 14, 15, 16--but the link to ep 13 doesn't work. So if you would be kind enough to ul that ep, I would be forever grateful! I have an MU account, but really, any site that works for you is fine. Thank you so much!

Date: 2009-04-21 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uisceros.livejournal.com
Oh good! Yay!
Do you only need the sub file? If so, download here!. If you need the raw as well, let me know!

Welcome!

Date: 2009-04-22 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
no, I have the sub, it's the raw I can't get. And the torrent's only available as a batch :-(

Date: 2009-04-22 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uisceros.livejournal.com
okee dokee! I'm uploading it right now, I'll let you know when it's finished!

Date: 2009-04-22 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uisceros.livejournal.com
Well that went a lot quicker than I thought it would...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ORN8ZVP3

Let me know if it doesn't work!

Date: 2009-04-22 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
awesome--it usually takes me at least 30 min to ul a whole ep. you must have a speedy connection.

THANK YOU!! dl'ing now.

Date: 2009-04-22 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uisceros.livejournal.com
Usually it takes me longer too! The internet gods must have been smiling on me last night...

Welcome! I remember the angst I went through waiting for the releases. I wouldn't subject anyone else to that!

Date: 2009-04-20 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popaddict.livejournal.com
I emailed Eternal Fansubs just a couple weeks ago to ask if they ever plan on releasing the ending episodes w/ hardsubs and they said they're having coding and video issues but they're trying and they can't say when it'll be done. So, there's that. I'm waiting for the hardsubs too, 1. cus I have a mac and hardsubs make my life that much easier and 2. because I hate streaming when I can dl instead.

Date: 2009-04-20 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seven-trees.livejournal.com
Are the subs for eps 3 and 4 out? OH MAN. Excuse me while I flail for a moment.

Date: 2009-04-20 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yes they are. I love them.

Date: 2009-04-20 03:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seven-trees.livejournal.com
Man, TWdramas are rocking this year. Well, except for Knock Knock Raping You. From what I hear, that one was just creepy.

Date: 2009-04-20 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popaddict.livejournal.com
I'm happy you're really enjoying black/white.

I'm waiting for just a few more subs to be released and kind of still hoping someone hardsubs it. But whatevs, I'll be watching regardless bc I'm Vic's bitch.

Glad to know that aside from the Vic love the show is actually very, very good. Yay, Taiwan!!!

Date: 2009-04-20 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I think Intangible FS might be doing hardsubs but it will probably take them a while.

This drama is so lovely. It might be one of few twdramas I actually find "quality" in addition to fun.

Date: 2009-04-22 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
ep 1 hardsub is available on d-addicts. I just saw it.

Date: 2009-04-22 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popaddict.livejournal.com
Yay!

Now, I just have to wait for a few more eps to be released and then I'll pull a Vic marathon.

PS... granted I haven't watched yet but I am hoping that Vic gets with mob girl too, because I think she's cuter than science girl and in the little bit from the preview they have chemistry like whoa!

Oh, and mob girl/crazy cop.... that's love!

Date: 2009-04-20 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joonni.livejournal.com
wow, high production values. And good quality vids? This is quite unbelievable. How many episodes is this going to be?

Date: 2009-04-20 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
20. Four are out already. 4 are subbed on viikii and 2 are softsubbed by sublime fansubs on their blog (obviously vid quality is better with the latter). So very good!

Date: 2009-04-20 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladysaotome.livejournal.com
Hmm, I wonder if I finally found a drama Hubby would actually enjoy. (I got him to watch 3 episodes of Mars once, & he was rather annoyed that he was enjoying it - lol - so he won't watch it anymore!)

Date: 2009-04-20 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Maybe - it's quite actiony.

Date: 2009-04-20 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vierran45.livejournal.com
I'm completely in love with this drama. I also love the people at viikii for being amazingly fast in subbing it :D!

The stuff about Zai Tian's mysterious past and his anonymous informant is very intriguing. Hero's crush on Mob Girl is cute, though I do hope he ends up with Science Lady. I suspect he's been thinking of her as just a colleague and a friend that he hasn't ever realized that she might like him more than as a friend. But now he know, I can't wait to see how things develop.

Zai Tian badgers her about Hero until she yells "Fine, I like that psycho and want him to be mine!" is comic gold.
I loved this scene! Her 'uh-oh' expression when she'd uttered that sentence was fantastic :D.

Zai Tian and Chen Lin's constant bickering is wonderful and complete OTP mating-dance material. And they have excellent chemistry as well.

Also, can't forget how good Kingone was as the drugged out killer!!! He was wonderfully evil and psycho in all his scenes and definitely made an impression!

Date: 2009-04-21 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I cannot wait for eps 5 and 6 - I am ridiculously eager for them.

loved this scene! Her 'uh-oh' expression when she'd uttered that sentence was fantastic :D.

That was hilarious.

Date: 2009-04-22 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thinking-lotus.livejournal.com
oh god, he is great in ep 1. And you can tell he was having fun with it.

Date: 2009-04-23 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
The thing with him in the lab was having me in stitches...

Date: 2009-11-06 08:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettierdanpink.livejournal.com
i started B&W yesterday and I am on ep6 but i think i missed the line where vic said the "you know i am hard everywhere..."!!! from what scene is it?

good god, B&W is so good! and the characters are awesome. i can't stop watching!

Date: 2009-11-06 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Don't remember any more, it's been months since I've seen it, but I swear it's there.

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