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I am going to rewatch Seasons 1 and 2 of Veronica Mars, one of my favorite TV shows (I like to pretend S3 does not exist, thank you very much!)

Who is with me? It would be fun to have a group rewatch!

In case you have never heard of VM (my LJ used to be VM-central, but that was a couple of years ago), VM was a snarky, clever show which centered around Veronica, a cynical, battered-by-life high-schooler living in a shallow Southern California town, who helped her Private Eye father solve mysteries, and solved some on her own. It's such a clever, incredibly well-written show that made me laugh and cry!

Season 1, which is the best, centers around Veronica's obsessive, not-too-healthy quest to find out who murdered her best friend, the town's golden girl Lilly Kane. After Lilly's murder, Veronica's life fell apart: her mother left town, her father lost his job, her perfect boyfriend, Lilly's brother, ditched her without an explanation, and she ended up ostracized and eventually raped at a party by someone she does not remember.

Now the former naive idealist is a hard-as-nails outsider with an attitude, on the outs with the privileged rich kids in her school, but slowly learning to feel friendship and trust again. If she doesn't get buried under the town's secrets, of course.

Veronica Mars:



Keith Mars, formerly Sheriff, now a Private Eye, the one stable and loving presence in Veronica's life. But is he her biological father?



Lilly Kane, the murdered best friend, who is dead but still very much present:



Logan Echolls my total crush, Lilly's former boyfriend, the leader of "09ers" (i.e. the privileged kids), and Veronica's biggest nemesis. Is there more to him than meets the eye? I used to ship them to an unhealthy degree.



Duncan Kane. The serious, studious "golden boy" son of Jake Kane, a software millionaire, Duncan was Lilly's brother and Veronica's boyfriend. He broke it off with Veronica without any explanation and has become a living zombie since.



Wallace Fennel. The first friend Veronica makes since Lilly's death.



Eli "Weevil" Navarro. A leader of a biker gang, he becomes a sort-of ally of Veronica's.



There are many many more, but these are the main ones.

Btw, my ship of choice? Was Logan/Veronica. They were so gloriously messed-up!

Date: 2008-12-17 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hope-fuleigh.livejournal.com
Totally in. I haven't revelled in a good Veronica Mars binge in quite awhile. And the world can always use more L/V.
Edited Date: 2008-12-17 10:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-12-17 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
"Make L/V, not War!"

Sorry, couldn't resist.

I need to find some VM icons to upload. I have all these empty icon spaces.

So, when do you want to start? I am probably going to dust off my DVDs tonight or tomorrow...

Date: 2008-12-17 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animeshon.livejournal.com
Sounds good to me. Providing my flatmate will let me borrow her VM DVDs :D

Date: 2008-12-17 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animeshon.livejournal.com
Probably but it seems a little silly. I'm sure she wont have a problem with it, or even know! They have it at the DVD store as well, just give me an excuse to buy my own :D

Date: 2008-12-17 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Heeee. I dl things I already own just for caps :)

Date: 2008-12-17 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animeshon.livejournal.com
lol - i just make caps in PowerDVD from them. Usually I've already dl'ed it anyway while it was screening :D

Date: 2008-12-17 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marspeach.livejournal.com
This used to be my favorite show. I really tried to like the third season but I couldn't. I wasn't going to be home when the last episode aired so I made my sister tape it for me, but I never even watched it. I just ended up taping over it.

Date: 2008-12-17 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
You didn't miss anything. S3 finale was just useless.

Date: 2008-12-17 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astrothsknot.livejournal.com
My Mum shipped Veronica/Duncan.

Date: 2008-12-17 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I actually adored Veronica/Duncan in theory (I am a sucker for first loves, especially tragic and forbidden) but somehow the way they acted it out, I ended up being V/L shipper. Never was one of those who hated D/V though.

Date: 2008-12-17 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladysaotome.livejournal.com
All those questions under the photos - do they get answered? I caught a few episodes of VM long ago & loved it but there's few things I hate more than unresolved mystery when a series ends/is canceled.

Date: 2008-12-17 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yes, they all get answered. Each season is very self-contained. If the show ended at e.g. S2, there would have been no unresolved questions.

Date: 2008-12-18 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladysaotome.livejournal.com
Perfect - Now I'll definitely have to find & watch it! (My biggest fear is Monk ending with no resolution to his wife's death. Getting stuck with another Pretender or Nowhere Man.)

Date: 2008-12-17 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkeyedwolf.livejournal.com
Ooh, count me in! For the first season at least. (I'm a Duncan/Veronica shipper, I'm sure you can guess why. XD)

Date: 2008-12-17 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I'm sure you can guess why.

Keeping it in the family? :)

For me, I am not sure what would trump: shipping the heroine with guy who thought she was his half-sister and loved her anyway or shipping the heroine with abuse victim with a death wish the size of Nevada. It was all almost drama-worthy!

Funnily enough, in pure theory, the D/V would appeal to me much more, but because of chemistry and the way it was acted out, I ended up a rabid V/Ler.

Sometimes I wish Jason Dohring would have gotten Duncan's part which is what he auditioned for -- it really would have been epic drama then and I would have shipped D/V in crazy fashion!

Date: 2008-12-17 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkeyedwolf.livejournal.com
Pretty much. Torn-apart first love fake siblings, I was so there.

Sometimes I wish Jason Dohring would have gotten Duncan's part which is what he auditioned for

Oh my god, seriously?? I can't even imagine!

Date: 2008-12-17 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yup, apparently he auditioned but UPN bigwigs were all 'he is not traditionally good-looking enough for the part.'

I really wonder how it would have turned out, because initially Logan was just going to be the antagonist and it wasn't in the plans for the writers to hook Logan and Veronica up at all, let alone make them the OTP. Duncan was going to be the true love and all. But then I guess they liked JD's acting or chemistry or whatever better, so they went all-out on L/V.

So it makes me wonder how it would have been if they'd gotten him for Duncan. D/V would have probably turned into this angsty glorious super-OTP or something. Missed kdrama opportunity!

Date: 2008-12-17 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkeyedwolf.livejournal.com
I KNEW IT. I remember arguing with crazy L/V shippers that D/V was canon intended, and they pretty much laughed in my face (deservedly, I suppose, since they got canon in the end). But I knew I wasn't imagining things! Hey, validation only came three seasons too late.

Date: 2008-12-17 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I never got the crazy shippers or Duncan hate for that matter. And don't even get me started on 'Duncan is a rapist' thing. Since they were both minors and both under the influence of GHB, if you want to go there at all, then they raped each other.

Granted, I preferred L/V, but how did it hurt me if someone else shipped D/V? D/V was intended as canon initially but then L/V became canon. I confess to in first season basically shipping whoever V liked at the time. Show threw her with Duncan, I shipped D/V. Show threw her with Troy, I shipped T/V. Show threw her with Logan? L/V.

I confess the scene with Duncan in the driveway yelling at her with tears that "I thought you were my sister" is pretty pretty awesome.

Date: 2008-12-17 11:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkeyedwolf.livejournal.com
Forget all the pairing drama, you know what I really loved about VM? The fashion! I remember a big picspam of all Veronica's outfits and how she threw together the same things in different combos like real people have to. I was in high school at the time, and it was my bible. XD

Date: 2008-12-17 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boycottbananas.livejournal.com
I remember watching a few episodes of that before. Is there somewhere I could watch it online? o_o

Date: 2008-12-17 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Not streaming but I do you dl?

Date: 2008-12-17 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boycottbananas.livejournal.com
I could. Where shall I find it? :o

Date: 2008-12-17 11:34 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-12-18 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phatgirly.livejournal.com
Yes there is. Thewb.com

Date: 2008-12-18 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vierran45.livejournal.com
I loved the first season, but I still haven't watched the second one even though I've had the DVDs for ages :P. So this might be the thing to fnally get me watching those after all...

I used to be such a huge Logan/Veronica shipper. I still have this one V/L icon saved :)...

Date: 2008-12-18 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
That icon is so pretty!

Date: 2008-12-18 02:06 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] village.livejournal.com
What the-- Get out of my head! I have been jonesing for some VM lately and I've especially been in the mood for some Logan/Veronica. If you're doing a re-watch, tell me when so that I can join you. S1 & S2 of course. I don't have the "season that shall not be named" on dvd.

Date: 2008-12-18 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I am going to start tonight :)

S3? What's S3? :)

Date: 2008-12-18 03:37 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] village.livejournal.com
There was a season three?

...

Hee. So, is this a bingefest? How many episodes should I be watching, right now?

Date: 2008-12-18 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Heeee. I can only manage the pilot tonight. I don't think I'll be able to do more than a couple eps a night in general :)

Date: 2008-12-18 04:11 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] village.livejournal.com
Sounds good. I probably won't be able to do it every day but I'll try to keep up with you. [g]

Date: 2008-12-18 06:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phatgirly.livejournal.com
I'm so in. For anybody who doesn't have access to the DVDs, the first season is streaming on thewb.com.

Date: 2008-12-18 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yay! Am so excited!

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