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Oh Veronica Mars fandom. Wow. It’s imploding in a horrifically spectacular fashion. Actually, after reading the latest spoilers, even I who thought I was indifferent to VM now, am very very annoyed. Yay. We had three years of the L/V ship, which is the main ship on the show and the only one most people like and what? We are going to end the show with Logan alone (because he can never have any fun) and Veronica with random boring ‘suddenly pop up’ character? Ugh. I don’t even see L/V as a viable ship any more as the writers wrote it into the ground so quickly, but at least let Logan have someone, too. What a freaking waste! Along with lack of character development. And to think I loved S1 and liked S2. That is why I prefer doramas. OTPs stay OTPs and there is beginning, middle and end. Oh RT. I know you can write. So what happened?

I read this really awesome quote on TWOP that sums up the trainwreck that is current VM:

I feel like this seasons Veronica is like what Robin Hood would be like if instead of stealing from the rich and giving to the poor, he got glowing letters of reccommendation from the rich and snarked and insulted the poor for not being as cool and witty as he is...

Yeah.

The thing is, I still love S1 to pieces. It’s brilliant, probably best first season of any show out there: nuanced, and dark and complicated and so fresh. And it made me care. Made me care for the snarky, tough, wounded Veronica. Made me care for the complicated, jerky, messed-up Logan. Made me care for the dazed Duncan, who really came across as someone good yet passive, tarnished and yet not (I think Teddy Dunn was just fine in S1. The writers didn’t know what to do with him in S2 at all though). Made me care for everyone: Wallace, Weevil, Keith, Mac, even Aaron (granted it was care to bash his head in, but whatever…). Oh God. It was so GOOD. But it really should have ended with one season: all it needed to wrap everything up was to show who was at the door: beaten-up or not Logan.

But fine, even though S2 felt much more disjointed, I loved it, even if not with the same strength. And it had some excellent episodes and some wonderful character development and interactions (e.g. I loved the Aaron-Logan scenes).

So I think in the future, I’ll just pretend that S2 last episode was the series finale. Might as well as S3 cannot be recognized as Veronica Mars. Continuity is gone, characters don’t make sense, plots go nowhere. Ugh.

So, I suppose I lied. I do still care.

Last point. You know, this is a very general observation. I am not a huge bad-boy fan, in RL or in fiction. I find men who possess devotion and sanity and a steady income much too appealing (but then I don’t think Logan qualifies as a ‘bad boy’ but that’s another story). And no, I do not have a Spike hang-over. I was always a Buffy/Angel girl. But HELL, Veronica! Wake the frak up! If someone saves your life (going unarmed against a guy with a gun no less), saves you from a rapist, saves you from having your face tattooed (going against a bunch of gangsters with an unloaded gun as his only backup), not to mention saves you on other smaller occasions, and goes to bat for you in other spectacular ways (he got himself thrown in jail just so he could harm the men who attacked you), YOU SHOULD FRAKKING CUT HIM SOME SLACK. Slack the size of Belgium, actually. OK? You think Piz would do it? Huh. Also, I know it’s hard, girl, but it’s actually good for you to have a boyfriend with a personality as strong as your own. Having a human-shaped carpet for a significant other really bores in the long run.

P.S. You know, we as viewers are supposed to cut Veronica some slack because her life has been tough (hasn’t for the last year, but it’s a separate issue). But by that logic, Logan deserves three times the slack. Hello! He is a Perils of Pauline levels person, what with severe beating, hate of the whole town, best friend ditching, girl he loves believing him capable of rape and/or murder, murder trial for something he didn’t do, girlfriend being murdered by his father (and oh, yeah, said girlfriend was sleeping with the father), mother killing herself, and did I mention that he’s been systematically abused by his horrific father? Did I mention said father tried to set the girl he loves on fire and later got murdered? Yeah. He’s surprisingly together for someone with that lucky background, and no parental guidance whatsoever. Actually, I’d think Veronica, or anyone, should probably show some concern over the guy (he is a prime candidate for therapy and I don’t even care for shrinks) and not always dump things on him. If the writers wanted me to be harsh towards him, they shouldn’t have made him so sympathetic, and so caring towards people he loves despite being so messed up.

Date: 2007-03-21 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crumpeteer.livejournal.com
It always kills me when a tv series goes to the dogs. Especially one that is so good to start out with. Maybe that's why I wasn't too upset about Firefly's demise. At least it ended before it could suck (something Buffy was weaving towards there at the end). And granted, Eric Kripke is no Pulitzer prize winning author, but he's made Supernatural's second season even better than the first.

Date: 2007-03-21 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I know it's blasphemy but I totally agree on Firefly. And I really must catch up on SPN!!

Date: 2007-03-22 12:00 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jebbypal
ahh, they are just setting logan up to morph into lex luthor :)

Date: 2007-03-22 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Heh. I am still digesting THAT change.

Date: 2007-03-22 01:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jebbypal
I'm sure he'll look fine bald :) LOL

Date: 2007-03-22 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
And in purple shirts, drinking water out of teeny blue bottles :)

Date: 2007-03-27 03:43 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] village.livejournal.com
Heh. I am still digesting THAT change.

Oh God me too. Don't even GET me started on Smallville. I can't even watch that show anymore.

As for VMARs. Dude. DUDE. Please don't tell me they're hooking her up with PIZ?!!? *inhales* You know what? I don't even care about Veronica and her relationships. I just want Logan to, like, be Logan and be ... good. As long as this bloody series ends with Logan at least even a little bit happy ... I can say goodbye to this show with absolutley no regrets.

And that last paragraph about Logan, you wrote? Yes, yes, a million times yes. You've stated exactly how I feel about the situation.

Date: 2007-03-22 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Huh? They're ending VM with V off with someone else? That's just...wrong.

And the rest...on the one hand, yeah, V should cut him some slack, but on the other, at least in S1 and S2, I can get her reactions...I mean, the gun thing...she broke up with him because he was going crazy out of control and he hadn't gotten any better by then and she seemed to largely be responding to the fact that now he was adding carrying around a gun with it.

But...yeah...Duncan would be better than a new guy, and you KNOW my feelings on Duncan, but at least I could see it.

Date: 2007-03-22 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Re: slack. I agree with you re: S1 and 2, but I was talking about her reactions in S3 which just...guuuuuuh, I want to smack her.

But...yeah...Duncan would be better than a new guy, and you KNOW my feelings on Duncan, but at least I could see it.

exactly.

Date: 2007-03-22 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
Well...I recall one S3 spoiler about Logan sleeping with whatshername--Madison?- that some went nuts about and it made sense to me. I mean I can't remember if Logan knows or not, but Madison is the one who gave V the date rape drug and painted her to the entire school as a slut. I don't think it would have been humanly possible to react well to that.

One thing that DOES make me see red, though, is Veronica accusing Weevil of stealing Lilly's necklace and not believing him when he told her he didn't. Because...the thing that makes me(in a purely non-OTP way) love Verinica and Weevil is that they're perfectly honest with each other...if he's up to something, he avoids a direct answer and challenges her to figure it out, but if he gives her a traight answer, it's always the truth(this is why the episode where he steals the school money is one of my favorites because he never tells her that he didn't steal it and challenges her to figure it out. And then, later, when she's through looking and just has to know, he tells her.)

But...yeah. The sad thing is, anyone who knows me knows that I'll be getting the DVDs when they come out.

Date: 2007-03-22 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Re: Madison. But they were broken up. For good. He has a right to sleep with whoever. Doesn't matter she won't get upset but she should realize she has no right to be. The show being on her side in that one annoyed me to no end.

Date: 2007-03-22 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com
YEah...I won't have a real good feel or that scene until I watch it...just saying...that situation...I don't think anyone would react well..."Well" because anything short of a murderous rage making you wonder if you could ever care about that person again. It's not something that logic could feature into. I'd be on her side for going insane over it(a lot of the junk she went through in S1-S2 can be blamed on Madison without there ever being a way for justice), but anything after that I have to see it to have an opinion on.

Date: 2007-03-22 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I am just so annoyed because it's such a waste of such a formerly good show!

Date: 2007-03-22 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hope-fuleigh.livejournal.com
And it's a waste of excellent actors with such fantastic chemistry! All they have to do is look at each other in a remotely melt-y way, and I'm done.

I really think that the way that Logan's character became so popular and his relationship with Veronica was completely unexpected by the writers - no one was supposed to *really* like him that way, their relationship was never supposed to be "epic" - and it's fairly obvious that they have no idea what to do with his character anymore, and haven't for a pretty long time (except for a few moments that make you hope that they've got it back together - like when he got himself thrown in jail).

So disappointing.

Date: 2007-03-22 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yeah, they have really been not writing him much at all lately, except for background color, which is such a waste.

Date: 2007-03-22 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grey-fuzzy.livejournal.com
I am rather good at self-delusion, and a few focused minutes of internally chanting "Veronica Mars S3 never happened" will probably do the trick for me ;P. I thought the fact that they used a "pregnant ex-girlfriend in a coma" plotline in S2 was a bad omen of thinning originality, but I don't think anyone predicted the failure that was to be this season.

If only we could let TV shows die remain things of beauty (EG Firefly)! Ah, well.

Date: 2007-03-22 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
internally chanting "Veronica Mars S3 never happened" will probably do the trick for me

Honestly speaking, it would work for me too. Worked with Buffy.

And gf in a coma was horrible. Donut Run was the worst ep in the first two seasons...

Date: 2007-03-22 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krazeekaytee.livejournal.com
thanks for the VM spoilers! i've only watched up to season 2, but even then i didn't like it as much as season 1. I think i'll skip season 3! :) that way, the good memories of VM are untainted. LOL!

Date: 2007-03-22 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yeah. Skip s3. I plan to erase that season from memory...

Date: 2007-03-22 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com
... they what?

Rob Thomas is an idiot.

Date: 2007-03-22 03:41 am (UTC)

Date: 2007-03-25 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmicviolet.livejournal.com
So I think in the future, I’ll just pretend that S2 last episode was the series finale.
Yeah, I think I may do the same if this ends badly. It works pretty well as a finale, actually. Veronica graduates, she and Logan are together...good stuff. You can leave it to your imagination what would happen next. Sort of.

Date: 2007-03-27 03:44 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] village.livejournal.com
Also that Robin Hood quote is the best thing I've seen in months. *LOVE*

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