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dangermousieI keep thinking of of Palpatine at the end of ROTS at Mustafar. He is quite tender with Anakin on that sand. It's not just the flunkie down, but he cares for him. The bizarre thing is, Palpy loves having an apprentice and he cares for them. But it's as if there is a switch in his head (he is a sociopath, after all). He will care for them when he views them as an apprentice but when he sees someone better, he automatically downgrades them to a flunkie and not worthy of consideration and begins to view the other person as apprentice. When he found Luke, he automatically switched Vader into flunkie mode. How bizarre.
Also, Palpatine has fun being Sithly and evil. Not Vader. Vader is having a bad hair day that lasts 20+ years. He will force-choke someone or torture them or whatever, but he never has any joy in it. Or in anything else, for that matter.
I guess that is understandable. After a huge temper explosion you often feel nothing because there is nothing left, everything is wiped out. And that is how he is, especially since his anger was futile (after Padme's death).
Oh, and here's why Bollywood is my joy. Look at the BIZARRE outfits that make my eyes bleed (from an award show cum concert earlier this month) behind the cut. Even if you have never heard of Bollywood, you simply must check out these "fashions:"
Where do I start? The pleather pants? The blinding bling? The shortage of shaving implements? Abhishek Bachchan (surely he can afford a better get-up) and Aishwaria Rai:
Needs no words (Amitabh Bachchan and Aishwaria Rai). But still I have two: do "age" and "inappropriate" mean anything? Also, the suit really sticks out :P
Someone bit a chunk out of your dress, dearie? Fardeen Khan and fiancee. Surely he could afford to buy her a whole dress?
OK, firstly this is the macho icon Salman Khan wearing a shirt like my Mum's. But more importantly, what on earth is the girl wearing?
Hrithik Roshan, winning "style icon." In a parallel universe, perhaps. *sigh* I remember when you were hot. Note to Hrithik: mullets are NOT back in fashion, and this hair makes you look even more like a chipmunk:
Shahid Kapoor and Kareena Kapoor, surrounded by escapees from a figure skating program:
Finally, an outfit I like (at least on her). Kareena Kapoor:
And because, despite the outfits, they are adorable. And because his belt-buckle is so bad it deserves its own pic:
ETA: to add a pic of John Abraham:
John, we are not a waiter:
Also, Palpatine has fun being Sithly and evil. Not Vader. Vader is having a bad hair day that lasts 20+ years. He will force-choke someone or torture them or whatever, but he never has any joy in it. Or in anything else, for that matter.
I guess that is understandable. After a huge temper explosion you often feel nothing because there is nothing left, everything is wiped out. And that is how he is, especially since his anger was futile (after Padme's death).
Oh, and here's why Bollywood is my joy. Look at the BIZARRE outfits that make my eyes bleed (from an award show cum concert earlier this month) behind the cut. Even if you have never heard of Bollywood, you simply must check out these "fashions:"
Where do I start? The pleather pants? The blinding bling? The shortage of shaving implements? Abhishek Bachchan (surely he can afford a better get-up) and Aishwaria Rai:
Needs no words (Amitabh Bachchan and Aishwaria Rai). But still I have two: do "age" and "inappropriate" mean anything? Also, the suit really sticks out :P
Someone bit a chunk out of your dress, dearie? Fardeen Khan and fiancee. Surely he could afford to buy her a whole dress?
OK, firstly this is the macho icon Salman Khan wearing a shirt like my Mum's. But more importantly, what on earth is the girl wearing?
Hrithik Roshan, winning "style icon." In a parallel universe, perhaps. *sigh* I remember when you were hot. Note to Hrithik: mullets are NOT back in fashion, and this hair makes you look even more like a chipmunk:
Shahid Kapoor and Kareena Kapoor, surrounded by escapees from a figure skating program:
Finally, an outfit I like (at least on her). Kareena Kapoor:
And because, despite the outfits, they are adorable. And because his belt-buckle is so bad it deserves its own pic:
ETA: to add a pic of John Abraham:
John, we are not a waiter:
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Date: 2005-06-14 05:56 pm (UTC)Thanks for the pix!
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Date: 2005-06-14 05:59 pm (UTC)Actually I think my brother has one of those.
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Date: 2005-06-14 06:13 pm (UTC)I am also busy contemplating with glee the fun of having the most notorious Exes Salman and Ash at the same performance :)
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Date: 2005-06-14 06:13 pm (UTC)*is scared*
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Date: 2005-06-14 06:20 pm (UTC)Ian McDiamard has explicitly said that Palpy cares only for *Anakin*. Mostly because he's been grooming the kid for so long, and sees him as a son (or as close to a sociopath can). Anakin's the only caring relationship that Palpy has. Everyone else is chopped liver.
Also, Palpatine has fun being Sithly and evil. Not Vader. Vader is having a bad hair day that lasts 20+ years. He will force-choke someone or torture them or whatever, but he never has any joy in it. Or in anything else, for that matter.
See, my take on the matter is that Vader dealt with his emotions like I deal with being depressed (my depression is actually a source of lots of my Vader ideas ::hides::). He represses anything that will make him sad/upset, but he indulges in his anger, because anger is of the Dark Side, and man, does it feel *good*. So thoughts of Padme, his old life, his old body, all that stuff? Get shoved under the rug (at least until they explode into a temper tantrum), while thoughts of things like how he should be all powerful get indulged in, because they are 'happy' thoughts. It also explains Vader's apparent lack of affect in the OT: if you're depressed and repressing *everything* you'd lack affect too.
Really, one of these days I'm going to write a 'Anakin on Prozac' fic, just to see what happens. If only the JC had sent the boy to therapy, we wouldn't have this mess.
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Date: 2005-06-14 06:24 pm (UTC)yes, but something changes. He flips that "off" switch and Vader becomes Dooku, in ROTJ.
He represses anything that will make him sad/upset, but he indulges in his anger, because anger is of the Dark Side, and man, does it feel *good*.
That is a really good take on it. But his "happy" is not really happy. You don't see him delighted. When you repress so much, you just become numb overall.
Really, one of these days I'm going to write a 'Anakin on Prozac' fic, just to see what happens. If only the JC had sent the boy to therapy, we wouldn't have this mess.
Yes, please! *slavers at the prospect*
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Date: 2005-06-14 06:35 pm (UTC)Well, at that point, he's got a choice between old, crispy, and crippled, and young, fit, and Force-powerful. Guess who wins?
But his "happy" is not really happy. ... When you repress so much, you just become numb overall.
Preaching to the choir. He's not happy, but killing subordinates at least makes him *feel*, and he feels better then than he does the rest of the time.
Ah, the Dark Side...chews you up, spits you out, and tells you lies about what makes you feel good.
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Date: 2005-06-14 06:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-06-14 06:40 pm (UTC)I KNOW! I KNOW! I KNOW! *falls over from sheer exasperation* That boy needs to get it together, quick.
I liked Kareena's outfit a lot, too, which is rare for me. :X
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Date: 2005-06-14 07:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-06-14 07:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-06-14 07:36 pm (UTC)Yes, indeedy! Though I suppose if you are a Palpy level sociopath, then the Dark Side is your favoritest thing in this whole world.
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Date: 2005-06-14 07:41 pm (UTC)Yes. I first saw him in Yaadein, which in itself was nothing to write home about, but the hotness was mega-crazy. Ditto for KN--PH, my second Hrithik flick.
Of course, then he got a succession of bizarre hairdos, overdid it on the steroids (I like muscles as much as the next girl, but there's a limit. When your arms look like sausages, stop!), got chipmunk cheeks and signed up for Daddy Roshan's sequel to KMG among others (ugh. Don't even get me started). He is just angling to be the next Stallone.
It's a pity, because he is by far the best dancer in Bollywood (awful Lakshya was saved by that amazing first number), and even despite his bizarre on-screen predilection for vinyl, a pretty good actor. He needs to lay off the muscle obsession (Salman is buff. John Abraham is buff. Saif is (now) buff. Hrithik is WAY over the top), lose some facial weight, got a different hair-do, thus rediscovering the inner hottie. Most importantly, he MUST learn to pick good movies. Apparently, he might be signed up for Gowariker's Jodha-Akbar, which if true, is a step in the right direction.
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Date: 2005-06-14 07:43 pm (UTC)horrid scenes I've been unfortunate enough to see in some of the shows I've been in. Talking about overflowing flesh... *brr*
OK, now I am curious. Do tell...
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Date: 2005-06-14 08:03 pm (UTC)Imagine a fifty something lady (and not so firm anymore, either...) dancing oriental dance in a one-piece costume, not very much unlike the dress with the hole. So far, the image isn't too disturbing, right? Well. Imagine the the dress a bit better: a very close-fitting lycra thing, with a very high cut in the other side seam (I haven't got the right English vocabulary for this stuff, sorry). Then imagine the dress lifting little by little and while the dance goes on, also twisting a bit. So that the high cut isn't exactly holding its place on the side. And then. Prepare yourself for the worst part. The lady had no undies and obviously didn't notice how her dress was behaving... *ick*
So that's the most extreme case, but the standard is of course not-so-firm ladies of any age stuffing themselves into two-piece costumes and, well, suffice to say it's not always a pretty picture...
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Date: 2005-06-14 08:07 pm (UTC)Oh, wait. I meant:
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I am scarred for life :D
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Date: 2005-06-14 08:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-06-14 08:57 pm (UTC)Butting in to say...
Date: 2005-06-14 09:20 pm (UTC)Oh, YES, please!! I would love to see a fic like that :-D
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Date: 2005-06-14 09:28 pm (UTC)On something of a tangent...
Date: 2005-06-14 09:30 pm (UTC)I was wondering if anyone has explored (in fic or essay) the implication from Palpatine's story about the Sith Lord whatshisname who could use the force to create life? That is, I assumed the implication was that Anakin *was* the life created by "immaculate" conception (as claimed by his mother). The tale also seemed to imply that Palpy *was* the apprentice who murdered his Sith master. So, connecting with his "brother", so to speak, was part of the attraction (never mind that he was the one who had murdered their "father").
Hell of a lot of assumptions here, so maybe I'm just uber fanwanking? ::slinks away back to her corner::
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Date: 2005-06-14 09:49 pm (UTC)Yes, I did think that Palpy's master was Plagueis and he created Anakin. But I never made the "brother" connection..brilliant and explains so much.
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Date: 2005-06-14 09:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-06-14 11:40 pm (UTC)Totally agree with you on the muscle issue. He looks incredibly disproportionate. If you take SRK or Akshay Kumar or the other men you mentioned, they're toned, but they don't over do it. In Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon, when Hrithik takes off his shirt... oh my. His upper chest region was BULGING, and then his waist was totally narrow. It was like Shahid Kapur, but worse. Le sigh.
Very eagerly awaiting Jodha-Akbar, even though it won't start shooting until, what, next year? I just hope Hrithik doesn't "experiment" again. I totally see him donning a mustache for the role a la Aamir for The Rising. Or keeping a long hair cut. Nooo.
WILL WE EVER GET TO SEE HOT HRITHIK AGAIN?! *facepalm* Although, he does look a lot better in your P.S. reply. Thanks for that!! Perhaps there is hope for the boy.
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Date: 2005-06-15 12:31 am (UTC)Mmmmm...The Hrithiknator made that flick almost bearable. Almost.
I know he's trying to go for "different," but he's completely missing the boat on "attractive." Which, okay, is pretty shallow.
Nah, not shallow. He is hardly acting in Schindler's List, is he? At least before, when he movies were duds, there was always the eye-candy. Now, not even that.
when Hrithik takes off his shirt... oh my. His upper chest region was BULGING, and then his waist was totally narrow.
Hrithik has got to be one of very few actors where I pray for his shirt to stay ON during the movie. John Abraham taking off his shirt? bring it on, baby! Hrithik? Please, no!
Also, no more sleevless vests. Only long-sleeved shirts please. I was gladly ogling Saif's arms in Parineeta, but every time I see Hrithik in a sleeveless vest, I feel faintly ill.
It was like Shahid Kapur, but worse.
It is impossible to be worse. At least Hrithik looks like a grown-up.
I just hope Hrithik doesn't "experiment" again. I totally see him donning a mustache for the role a la Aamir for The Rising.
Hopefully Gowariker will squash that. He did direct two acclaimed movies, so he should know that uglifying Hrithik is a crime. And hey, long flowing period robes with sleeves.....
Or keeping a long hair cut.
I think this is for KMG2, which is yet another reason to abhor that movie.
Perhaps there is hope for the boy.
I certainlt hope so. He was (at some point) my "hottest BW actor" winner, but now he is barely in the top 10, and mainly on the strength of earlier pleasant memories.
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Date: 2005-06-15 12:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-06-15 03:05 am (UTC)The two movies of his that I like are Paap (this is where this icon is from) It's a remake of Witness, but this being Bollywood, the focus is on the love story. I adore it anyway and did a write-up of it here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/dangermousie/33920.html) and Karam (write-up here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/dangermousie/58515.html). If you want to keep your sanity, stay away from Kaal and Madhoshi.
Dhoom and Elaan are standard actioners. These are all the flicks of his I've seen.
He has a movie coming out that I am very interested in, called Water (3rd part of trilogy by Deepa Mehta) dealing with discrimination against widows.
If you want to check out more pics, there are some in my lj here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/dangermousie/2513.html), here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/dangermousie/44542.html), here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/dangermousie/17862.html), here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/dangermousie/29045.html), here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/dangermousie/27674.html).
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Date: 2005-06-15 04:46 am (UTC)As for that yellow dress, Sheryl Crow wore the same one at the Grammys this year and it looked just as bad on her.
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Date: 2005-06-15 06:05 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2005-06-15 07:14 pm (UTC)I’ve ordered all his other movies that I could find off of “Netflix.”
Just please tell me not "Kaal" Because....eeeeeeeee. Not good.
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Date: 2005-06-23 01:19 am (UTC)Ooooh! Well, that'll be interesting! I know "Fire" wasn't too popular either with the whole lesbian thing...
Just please tell me not "Kaal" Because....eeeeeeeee. Not good.
I don't believe that was one of the things I put on the queue. But if it was, I'll take it right off!