Musings of the Obsessive Kind

Do we know it's a triangle setting? Like the characters being actively pitted against each other?

Maybe she could just be an interim relationship, like Veronica's drug dealing boyfriend from season on. Just some random relationship at a time when LoVe are not currently interested in each other.

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Well, from what we can tell, she is a sweet "fresh-scrubbed" sophomore who is the daughter of the Doctor who was trying to set up Logan and Logan ends up dating her/kissing her/buying her stuff etc.

I am sure the sweet sweet thoughtful boy (ha!) is just using her to get info on Daddy at the start, but with the abundunce of soap products this show has been using lately and because she is supposed to be sweet and innocent and Duncan is now out of the picture so we need new obstacles, TPTB will use this as another contrivance.

Considering the way they handled Duncan the Sudden Noncharacter this season, I am not really big into giving them a benefit of the doubt.

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I've honestly never understood why shows have to have

A.) Love triangles. Love is complicated enough, don't throw geometry in the mix.

B.) A girl with a group of boys must have one or more of them fall in love with her or vice versa within two episodes. Because, you know, in real life guys and girls just can't be friends without someone wanting to sleep with someone else. What's wrong with just friends with a gradual progression into something more?

C.) If to give the selected pair on the show more angst, we'll give someone a girlfriend/boyfriend, but make that significant other as bland as plain toast so everyone still likes the pairing we're teasing them with. Because also in the real world, the guy I have a crush on will always pick someone who is either evil or boring and never pick some girl who is actually nice and who I can't fault him for liking.

Sorry, I'm in a ranting mood and you brought up an issue that triggered my annoyance at other issues.

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No, I love the rant, and I so agree.

Of course, because the obstacle person is as exciting as a wall, it just gets you annoyed at screentime wasted on them.

Argh.

Gonzo!!!!!!!!!!!

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Word on the writer distrust this season.

The whole "Meg dies off screen" thing made me roll my eyes like crazy. Right after delivering the baby! It's so bad!soapy.

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I'm a LoVe fan with a high tolerance for angst and obstacles, so keep that in mind. But I don't necessarily see it as a triangle. You have two characters on a show that used to date. Does this mean the two characters can never be involved with other characters? I guess I don't mind this. Triangles involve one character choosing between or feeling drawn by the two different options, and I don't see that happening. Now, I'd *like* Logan and Veronica to show a little more feeling of being drawn to the other, and that's precisely what bugs. But I think RT is actually doing a good job of avoiding the triangle dynamic.

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Yeah, like Veronica and Logan would need additional reasons not to be togehter. Seems to me that they have done a pretty good job of that all by themselves simply based on personal psychosis.

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The whole "Meg survives the crash and is in a coma"

Oh wait, she is also pregnant and must be carrying Rosemary's Baby because it survives too.

Oh wait, but she will wake from her coma.

Oh wait, and tell V to take care of her kid

Oh wait, and then she will die and the baby will live.

There is only so many contrivances I can take. What next, Veronica's evil twin Nicavero shows up?

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It depends where they go with this one, though.

I mean, if Logan has someone who adores him (in a sophmore way) than that can be a good thing. Especially if she's as snarky as she seems. I'd like to see where they go with the Griffen storyline. Does she want to rescue Logan after her Dad tells her he's bad news? Or, does she side with her dad and abandon him (like everyone else does in his life). Also, this could lead to some V and L sex after the inevitable breakup of Hannah and Logan. I'm actually kinda excited by this one.

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I have no objection with characters dating others. I guess I'd be a lot more "indulgent" of that kind of storyline if:

a. I trusted the writers more. I trusted them with Duncan and look where it got me and
b. I've seen the obstacle person used in way too many stories artificially.

The problem with creating a new character whose main purpose is to date a protagonist is that the audience will just be annoyed at them and the time wasted on them when we could be spending time on characters we already know (see Jackie situation). When it's a triangle and one of the people is a new person who we don't know at all, and the other two are the main character and a fan favorite woobie who most of the fandom seems to ship, then there is no way one can be invested in the well-being or 'victory' of the newbie and it just feels tiresome.

But YMMV.

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What next, Veronica's evil twin Nicavero shows up?

LOL, stop, you might be giving the writers ideas!

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I just love all the new icons from the tapes scene. Fangirly sigh.

I think after the Duncan fiasco I am just annoyed with the writers and a bit paranoid. Also, I don't want any more new characters. I just want to spend time with the old ones.

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And then, Nicavero will lock Veronica in a trunk of her car and the car will explode and Veronica will survive having amnesia.

Meanwhile, Nicavero will try to seduce Logan and will only be interrupted when the real amnesiac Veronica will stumble in and Logan will go away with good V to bring her memory back.

Love will conquer all and they will be set to wed, when while they are at the altar, a Mysterious Man in Puce will show up and announce that during her amnesia, Veronica was married to him.

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I was (re)watching the season with my girlfriend--and I happen to comment to her that I was disappointed in the season. Now, I'm quite the invested fan while she is not. I feel cheated where she feels like there's no problem at all. The Duncan storyline really bothers me and she thinks he's cute ;)

I agree with your sentiment. I miss my show :(

Oh. And the tapes scene.... *wibble*

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Not to mention that Meg and Duncan's child would be aged into a teenager in the matter of 5 episodes :)

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See, *she says carefully not looking at the spoiler stuff* this is why I don't read VM spoilers. A) They either disappoint me because there's still no sign of that all-Logan-without-pants episode or B) they end up colouring my view of what happens on the show. I remain firmly on the no-spoiler side but offer you virtual french fries and Guinness to assauage your anger.

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For me it's more about: Why waste screentime on a character who is not going to make an impact anyway? If his/her only job it to be an obstacle and we know he/she will be gone permanently soon anyway and not leave any major repercussions, what is the point of them being on the show again?

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WTF? I swore not to read VM spoilers this year, but I couldn't help it and read this post... and WTF!? Who's that Hannah?

Because Jackie did so well. Yeah.
Mwahahhah! *hysteric laugh* BTW, why is she still in the opening credits??

*sigs* Oh, well, I'll have to rewatch some farscape to cheer me up after this... Meltdown will do! :P

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Don't even get me started on this triangle shit. Ny head will start spinning in circles and I'll barf split-pea soup.

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Exactly.

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Oh. And the tapes scene.... *wibble*

Made for rewatch. Sigh.

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ROFL. Seriously, I understand if they don't want to get V & L together right away (though I think it could have worked). But couldn't they come out with a better way than the uber cliche?

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all-Logan-without-pants episode

Sorry, brain short-circuited at the image.

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The Hannah stuff is from the sides at nowcasting.

Unfortunately, I think now that Wallace is back (yay) Jackie is going to be back too. Ugh.

I'll have to rewatch some farscape to cheer me up after this...

Farscape. The one show that did OTP perfectly right throughout the entire run and had no stupid triangles (can't count the cloned Crichtons, obviously).

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Sorry, brain short-circuited at the image.

I'm telling you, it's a winner.

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Farscape. *sigh* I think the difference is that RT doesn't think of Logan and Veronica as an OTP. Which of course is a shame.

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Yeah. It was pretty clear the Farscape TPTB intended John/Aeryn to be THE OTP. And boy, if it was like any other show, John would have taken Chiana up on her offer and had a short-lived relationship with her, and Aeryn would have had Crais angry!sex and it all would have been so stupidly cliche as opposed to having these people work towards a relationship slowly and painfully because of their own inner problems.

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syliasyliasylia.livejournal.com

Exactly, I think thay RT thought/expected that we were going to adore the Veronica/Duncan thing, but after getting LoVe going back to V/D backfired :)

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Farscape. The one show that did OTP perfectly right throughout the entire run and had no stupid triangles (can't count the cloned Crichtons, obviously).
EXACTLY! TPTB of the series I love should learn from the mistake of stupid triangles from hell of the past... I could name a few, Alias started going downhill with the whole triangle thing in season 3 for instance.

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True. But I can't help wondering if "working towards towards a relationship slowly and painfully" is a little too grown up for our highschoolers. And, no, I don't mean to be a apologist--but, Aeryn and John are a lot different (let's face it) from Logan and Veronica.

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Yes and yes. :)

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LOL...a triangle with two clones and the girl...

yeah, I'm not sure that counts if you're competing against yourself.

But it begs the question...what's next...what if Six and Baltar are interested in the same person? (OOH, they almost were - Starbuck - eeek! What if Gina finds her "intriguing" too? Gasp.) Or if you have multiple personalities and three of them want the same girl?

Of course if all three of them belong to Duncan it doesn't count, since it would take three of him to make up one personality ANYWAY.

Now THAT could be scary.

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OK...this would definitely be scary. Good thing VM isn't scifi :)

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Yeah, I heard about that...doesn't sound promising, does it? I hope she's a better actress than Jackie, heh. Logan is clearly using her to get at her dad and see what (if anything) he knows, so hopefully it won't last long. Kristin at E! said we wouldn't have to wait too long to see Logan and Veronica together again, but that there's some big tragedy that has to happen first, so I'm holding her to that. And I'm with you on not liking the soapy direction this season has taken.

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