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dangermousieIf you want to read SEVERE Battlestar spoilers for the finale (and by that I mean detailed ep summaries), go here. I can't wait. There is no mention/discussion of these spoilers anywhere in this post, so feel safe. If anyone mentions anything in comments, I will add a note to that effect.
Also, I think I am anime-d out. There are only so many bambi eyes I can take at the moment (probably because Marmalade Boy really annoyed me. It wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't 76 freaking episodes. It's as much as Cowboy Beebop, Trigun and Ayashi No Ceres put together. And those three manage to deal with redemption, pacifism, scifi conspiracies, not to mention love and family relationships and other complicated plot stuff in the time it takes MB to get very dull people dully together. The pace (the one that was non-existant) was killing me. This show even managed to make sibcest angst boring) so I am taking a little break.
In other news, I am re-reading Margaret Irwin's The Stranger Prince, which is a novel about Prince Rupert I read years ago and it's just as good as I remembered: intelligent, tightly plotted, angsty (and indirectly relates to![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
kitsa's question: yes, I like stories with angsty heroes without OTPs, as if there is OTP I haven't gotten to it. Btw, ancarett, I did find and read Poul Anderson's The Midsummer Tempest and it was delightful.
I have also been thinking about Veronica Mars and the bus crash clues. Here is all we have so far. (I am sure someone else has done it, but this is for my logical thought process anyway).
1. Bus crashed on going back from stadium and seven students, plus a journalism teacher, plus driver died
1a. Meg actually survived to be in a coma (the only passenger not to die on the spot), have coma baby of Duncan's and then die. She also had crazy religious parents, but I'd imagine the chances of them crashing the bus are slim to none as they wanted daughter to repent not to keel over.
2. Bus driver was planning to leave his wife and had no intention of ending it all (though Lamb of course thought he did). Bus driver not responsible, according to 2.02, Driver's Ed. I'll eat my favorite hat if the bus crashed because the driver did it, after all.
3. There was a bad smell on the bus, resulting from a rat being nailed to one of the seats. Who nailed it and why? Unknown.
4. Said smell possibly caused Dick to get off the bus on the way back and invite all the rich kids in his father's limo. All the kids went except Veronica and Meg. Only the poor kids (and Meg who refused out of spite) were on the bus and thus died.
5. The Mayor's daughter, Gina, told the cops that her father told her not to take the bus back.
5a. The Mayor of the town, the owner of the stadium/team that the kids were on the trip to see, is interested in incorporating the rich parts of the town into a separate municipality. Also, hellbent on getting Keith on his side, for unknown reasons.
6. The journalism teacher was stalking Jackie's father, famous baseball player Terrence Cook who was at the stadium having an unpleasant argument (subject unknown) with Mayor Goodman. Their relationship was very sour.
6a. Explosive devise on bus had traces of a baseball. This said, if Cook did it, I'll at least take a bite out of my hat as all of this came out mid season, ergo what's the plot or shock value.
7. Logan was loitering around the bus right before the trip (which he didn't go on) and told Veronica (who in the summer left him and got back together with Duncan) "I'll miss you." This said, if Logan did it, I'd eat my hat AND my shoes. The moment RT has the male lead, the show's it boy, and someone who 90% of the fandom wants with the heroine be the murderer, I'd know the end of the world has come.
8. One of the people who died was a member of Weevil's gang called Cervando who was smart enough to be on the honor roll and boasted of cheating Fitzpatricks, a local drug-dealing Irish gang. Fitzparticks are tied in with Weevil's gang, as unknown to Weevil, his gang has been dealing drugs for Fitzpatricks.
9. A man named Curly Moran was at the bus memorial and was earlier at a biker bar where Weevil beat the hell out of him. He later washed up with Veronica's name written on his hand. Curly was an Aaron Echolls fan and was the stunt coordinator on Aaron's first big hit, coordinating a stunt which involved a bus going over a cliff. Aaron, of course, has ample reason to want Veronica, chief witness and the one who found out he was a murderer, out of the way.
9a. Courtesy ofbluehyacinth. Following people have met Curly: Veronica (at the memorial), Aaron (shoot), Weevil (bar), Dick Sr & Jr (took car to Curly's repair shop), Goodman family (Curly fixed Gia's car). Possibly also the Cook family and Kendall as Curly had pictures with sports stars and cheerleaders.
What does it get us so far? No idea.
Also, I think I am anime-d out. There are only so many bambi eyes I can take at the moment (probably because Marmalade Boy really annoyed me. It wouldn't have been so bad if it wasn't 76 freaking episodes. It's as much as Cowboy Beebop, Trigun and Ayashi No Ceres put together. And those three manage to deal with redemption, pacifism, scifi conspiracies, not to mention love and family relationships and other complicated plot stuff in the time it takes MB to get very dull people dully together. The pace (the one that was non-existant) was killing me. This show even managed to make sibcest angst boring) so I am taking a little break.
In other news, I am re-reading Margaret Irwin's The Stranger Prince, which is a novel about Prince Rupert I read years ago and it's just as good as I remembered: intelligent, tightly plotted, angsty (and indirectly relates to
kitsa's question: yes, I like stories with angsty heroes without OTPs, as if there is OTP I haven't gotten to it. Btw, ancarett, I did find and read Poul Anderson's The Midsummer Tempest and it was delightful. I have also been thinking about Veronica Mars and the bus crash clues. Here is all we have so far. (I am sure someone else has done it, but this is for my logical thought process anyway).
1. Bus crashed on going back from stadium and seven students, plus a journalism teacher, plus driver died
1a. Meg actually survived to be in a coma (the only passenger not to die on the spot), have coma baby of Duncan's and then die. She also had crazy religious parents, but I'd imagine the chances of them crashing the bus are slim to none as they wanted daughter to repent not to keel over.
2. Bus driver was planning to leave his wife and had no intention of ending it all (though Lamb of course thought he did). Bus driver not responsible, according to 2.02, Driver's Ed. I'll eat my favorite hat if the bus crashed because the driver did it, after all.
3. There was a bad smell on the bus, resulting from a rat being nailed to one of the seats. Who nailed it and why? Unknown.
4. Said smell possibly caused Dick to get off the bus on the way back and invite all the rich kids in his father's limo. All the kids went except Veronica and Meg. Only the poor kids (and Meg who refused out of spite) were on the bus and thus died.
5. The Mayor's daughter, Gina, told the cops that her father told her not to take the bus back.
5a. The Mayor of the town, the owner of the stadium/team that the kids were on the trip to see, is interested in incorporating the rich parts of the town into a separate municipality. Also, hellbent on getting Keith on his side, for unknown reasons.
6. The journalism teacher was stalking Jackie's father, famous baseball player Terrence Cook who was at the stadium having an unpleasant argument (subject unknown) with Mayor Goodman. Their relationship was very sour.
6a. Explosive devise on bus had traces of a baseball. This said, if Cook did it, I'll at least take a bite out of my hat as all of this came out mid season, ergo what's the plot or shock value.
7. Logan was loitering around the bus right before the trip (which he didn't go on) and told Veronica (who in the summer left him and got back together with Duncan) "I'll miss you." This said, if Logan did it, I'd eat my hat AND my shoes. The moment RT has the male lead, the show's it boy, and someone who 90% of the fandom wants with the heroine be the murderer, I'd know the end of the world has come.
8. One of the people who died was a member of Weevil's gang called Cervando who was smart enough to be on the honor roll and boasted of cheating Fitzpatricks, a local drug-dealing Irish gang. Fitzparticks are tied in with Weevil's gang, as unknown to Weevil, his gang has been dealing drugs for Fitzpatricks.
9. A man named Curly Moran was at the bus memorial and was earlier at a biker bar where Weevil beat the hell out of him. He later washed up with Veronica's name written on his hand. Curly was an Aaron Echolls fan and was the stunt coordinator on Aaron's first big hit, coordinating a stunt which involved a bus going over a cliff. Aaron, of course, has ample reason to want Veronica, chief witness and the one who found out he was a murderer, out of the way.
9a. Courtesy of
bluehyacinth. Following people have met Curly: Veronica (at the memorial), Aaron (shoot), Weevil (bar), Dick Sr & Jr (took car to Curly's repair shop), Goodman family (Curly fixed Gia's car). Possibly also the Cook family and Kendall as Curly had pictures with sports stars and cheerleaders. What does it get us so far? No idea.
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Date: 2006-03-01 05:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-01 05:38 pm (UTC)I did go crazy for FY's 52, but the pace on that one is exponentially higher than MB in which nothing happens.
I realized that I don't like 'realistic' stuff. Fantasy, scifi, horror anime? Yay. "Cute boy doesn't like me?" Not my thing.
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Date: 2006-03-01 05:44 pm (UTC)Then there are those massives series like Naruto, Bleach and Yu Yu Hakusho that are just SO LONG even though they're really good.
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Date: 2006-03-01 05:55 pm (UTC)I would also add that the following people appear to have at least met Curly:
The Echolls Family and Weevil - which you already pointed out
The Casablancas Family - Dick and Beaver mention that Daddy Dick took his Aston Marin to that shop
The Goodman Family - Curly fixed Gia's Fiat.
May have met Curly:
The Cook Family - Curly has pictures of himself with sports stars and cheerleaders.
Kendall Casablancas - Was a cheerleader (see above)
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Date: 2006-03-01 05:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-01 06:05 pm (UTC)Oh, thank goodness! LOL!!!!
Seriously, though, I was surprised nobody seemed too interested in all the hunky guys in spandex at the Olympics. Oh well ;->
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Date: 2006-03-01 06:08 pm (UTC)I also think it's very likely that Cook is being framed. Lamb would be the obvious candidate for a frame job, since he's (a) sleazy, and (b) knows about Cook's gambling issues. But I don't think it's Lamb, because he's not the Mayor's man. And, posturing to Keith aside, once it became clear to him that the bus crash was not an accident, he's been genuinely trying to investigate it. I come back to the Mayor there too, because he had previous knowledge that Gia shouldn't be on the bus, and because he owned the team for which Cook threw a playoff, and for whom Cook's continuing problems with gambling could become a public issue. Then again, those things could have little to do with the actual bus bombing.
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Date: 2006-03-01 06:11 pm (UTC)It's because they didn't angst :P
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Date: 2006-03-01 06:13 pm (UTC)Yes. He'd make a very conveniet, high-profile scapegoat (and it's pretty improbable he is the real culprit). I wonder if part of the impetus for this is the fight Cook and Goodman had, since we don't know what the topic of the argument was.
I keep coming back to the possibility that there's a connection between Steve Guttenberg and the Fitzpatricks, something to do with Steve's plans for Neptune.
That would be awesome, especially since it woudl tie up together the two season mysteries.
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Date: 2006-03-01 06:14 pm (UTC)Animes - Marmalade Boy annoyed me as well, after 6 episodes I couldn't bring my self to care about the characters. It is a long series and I feel the same as you do, I like the 13-26 eps series better since I get the action, romance, angst without being dragged for 70 eps.
Veronica Mars - I've just started to watch the show two months ago. I've watched all of last season too, which I loved and I think that this season there are just soo many clues and misdirections hanging and vaguely connected to the main mystery that it's too early to get a conclusion.....until the season ends and I look back on everything, then I'll say, "well duh, it was right in front of me." Does that makes sense?
The Stranger Prince sounds like a good read, I shall check it out.
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Date: 2006-03-01 06:15 pm (UTC)Too pretty.
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Date: 2006-03-01 06:20 pm (UTC)Me too!
after 6 episodes I couldn't bring my self to care about the characters
Exactly. Last night, by the time I realized I was on ep 20 and I was still bored, I decided it's time to give up. I like finishing what I started, but there is no way to skim an anime and I just couldn't face wasting all this time.
No story needs 76 episodes, unless it deals with matters much more complicated than 'does my cute potential half-sibling love me?' I'd loved HYD's 51 eps and FY's 52, but both of those had a lot more going in them (and even at that were only 2/3 the length).
I've watched all of last season too, which I loved and I think that this season there are just soo many clues and misdirections hanging and vaguely connected to the main mystery that it's too early to get a conclusion.....until the season ends and I look back on everything, then I'll say, "well duh, it was right in front of me." Does that makes sense?
Yup, that's how I feel. I watched all of S1 within a week, so it's a very different experience watching S2 all paced out.
And Stranger Prince is goooood. And angsty. And I love Rupert who is a historical crush of mine.
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Date: 2006-03-01 06:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-01 06:24 pm (UTC)Not to mention that when you read a book, you can skim.
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Date: 2006-03-01 06:53 pm (UTC)Yay! It's hard to find a copy (I don't have one of my own, read a friend's copy and reread it and reread it) but it's entirely worthwhile!
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Date: 2006-03-01 07:28 pm (UTC)