Dr. Who. I have a new fandom!
Mar. 24th, 2006 01:11 pmFinally got around to watching the first two episodes of the new Dr. Who that scifi showed last week.
I. Am. In. Love. I have a new fandom and I am giddy with glee.
I remember watching an old Dr. Who ep on PBS a few years back: the Doctor (played by someone named Baker, according to Husband) was a bizarro individual, the budget was nil and the cheese factor temporarily made me lactose intolerant. But I did want to give this new one a try, since so many people on my flist liked it, and plus Husband is a Doctor fan (Whovian? Whovellian?).
Love. So much love. I've liked Christopher Eccleston ever since Elizabeth (one of the few good things about that awful movie) and Jude. But I never liked him as much as the amiable lunatic that is the Doctor. A lunatic with a hard, dark edge. Nine is a mix of a Pratchett character and a British Crichton. There is humor and it's razor sharp. And there are nuggets of angst in the sharpness. This sort of edgy, angsty irreverence is a lot more my thing (witness Firefly or Farscape) than BSG's unending solemnity.
Husband says they are making the Doctor a lot darker than previously. I have no basis for comparison, but I do like the dark edges: he is a war veteran and his planet has been destroyed, and he is the last of his people, and his manic humor reminds me a lot of Crichton's humor in later seasons. What else can you do but laugh? If you stop to think you'll want to knock your head against the wall. It's like a willfully put on mask, and sometimes it slips, as in when he sees that Tree Girl burn, or when he calls back that last Human who engineered the deaths of those beings and watches her literally crack herself to death. Rose is telling him 'help her' but he just stands and watches. And I remember thinking "this is not a guy you want to cross." Basically, he's seen too much and there is darkness in him. But also arrogance, that is so off-hand you can't even be offended at it. And I love when he shows off TARDIS like a kid. I think he wants Rose to come with him so much because he is, putting aside the veil of bravado, and words, and eccentricity, lonely.
I really love Rose. She is useful and practical and really really cool. She is also pretty in that very real "cute girl you see on the street" way and not in an impossibly glam Hollywood way. And she makes a pretty good friend. I love her reaction to Nine telling her the truth about his homeworld. She breaks up the moment by telling him she smells chips and let's get some. And it's perfect. I think I might have a girlcrush. I don't know if they will ever hook up (if they do, great, if not, that's great too, as I like their friends intereactions), but I can see why people write so much Nine/Rose.
Fave quote?
(After Doctor tells her he is an alien) Rose: So why do you sound as if you are from the North?
Doctor: Lots of planets are from the North.
The cheese and limited budget is still there, but this time it's endearingly so.
Now I need icons and fic. New fandom awaits!
I. Am. In. Love. I have a new fandom and I am giddy with glee.
I remember watching an old Dr. Who ep on PBS a few years back: the Doctor (played by someone named Baker, according to Husband) was a bizarro individual, the budget was nil and the cheese factor temporarily made me lactose intolerant. But I did want to give this new one a try, since so many people on my flist liked it, and plus Husband is a Doctor fan (Whovian? Whovellian?).
Love. So much love. I've liked Christopher Eccleston ever since Elizabeth (one of the few good things about that awful movie) and Jude. But I never liked him as much as the amiable lunatic that is the Doctor. A lunatic with a hard, dark edge. Nine is a mix of a Pratchett character and a British Crichton. There is humor and it's razor sharp. And there are nuggets of angst in the sharpness. This sort of edgy, angsty irreverence is a lot more my thing (witness Firefly or Farscape) than BSG's unending solemnity.
Husband says they are making the Doctor a lot darker than previously. I have no basis for comparison, but I do like the dark edges: he is a war veteran and his planet has been destroyed, and he is the last of his people, and his manic humor reminds me a lot of Crichton's humor in later seasons. What else can you do but laugh? If you stop to think you'll want to knock your head against the wall. It's like a willfully put on mask, and sometimes it slips, as in when he sees that Tree Girl burn, or when he calls back that last Human who engineered the deaths of those beings and watches her literally crack herself to death. Rose is telling him 'help her' but he just stands and watches. And I remember thinking "this is not a guy you want to cross." Basically, he's seen too much and there is darkness in him. But also arrogance, that is so off-hand you can't even be offended at it. And I love when he shows off TARDIS like a kid. I think he wants Rose to come with him so much because he is, putting aside the veil of bravado, and words, and eccentricity, lonely.
I really love Rose. She is useful and practical and really really cool. She is also pretty in that very real "cute girl you see on the street" way and not in an impossibly glam Hollywood way. And she makes a pretty good friend. I love her reaction to Nine telling her the truth about his homeworld. She breaks up the moment by telling him she smells chips and let's get some. And it's perfect. I think I might have a girlcrush. I don't know if they will ever hook up (if they do, great, if not, that's great too, as I like their friends intereactions), but I can see why people write so much Nine/Rose.
Fave quote?
(After Doctor tells her he is an alien) Rose: So why do you sound as if you are from the North?
Doctor: Lots of planets are from the North.
The cheese and limited budget is still there, but this time it's endearingly so.
Now I need icons and fic. New fandom awaits!
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Date: 2006-03-24 06:18 pm (UTC)Alas, since this is still considered a children's show, there will be no hooking up. Not that fans don't fill in the blanks anyway.
I want to get into the fandom, but internet fandoms scare me, they're so much like drinking from a firehose.
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Date: 2006-03-24 06:24 pm (UTC)That's OK. I actually love Dr/Rose interactions the way they are, so don't need anything more.
But children's show? Really. Hmmmm. I guess I thought it wasn't because it's on scifi at 10.
internet fandoms scare me, they're so much like drinking from a firehose
That's part of the fun, though, even if it does eat up your time something fierce.
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Date: 2006-03-24 06:26 pm (UTC)I am actuallly more excited about Fridays now than I was when BSG was still on. There is just something irresistably off the wall about the Doctor!
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Date: 2006-03-24 06:27 pm (UTC)When does the new season start again?
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Date: 2006-03-24 06:28 pm (UTC)Yup, he is totally irresistable!
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Date: 2006-03-24 06:30 pm (UTC)I am so greedy though, I want to watch them all NOW.
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Date: 2006-03-24 06:37 pm (UTC)Doesn't quite make up for no BSG until October, but definitely keeps Friday night TV something to look forward to!
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Date: 2006-03-24 06:56 pm (UTC)Favorite quote:
"I'm the Doctor, by the way, what's your name?"
"Rose."
"Nice to meet you, Rose. Run for your life!"
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Date: 2006-03-24 08:56 pm (UTC)With out the cheese and the limited budget it wouldn't be Dr. Who. I also love the new darkness and the new DR. Welcome to the wonderful world of Dr. Who, and anyway we need something interesting to do between now and October, while we wait to find out where Sharon and Helo are.
Bob
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Date: 2006-03-24 08:57 pm (UTC)I have been a Dr. Who fan since 1980.
Bob
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Date: 2006-03-24 09:11 pm (UTC)I have liked Christopher Eccleston ever since Jude, and his Doctor is making me flail with glee. I watched the Four and Five stuff PBS showed back in the eighties, and although I loved it at the time the new version is so much better (not quite to the old versus new BSG level, but in the ballpark).
I'm neutral on Rose so far. She isn't anyone that I would particularly like to be, aside from getting to be with the Doctor, so my Morwen Sue is having a field day!
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Date: 2006-03-24 09:36 pm (UTC)Precisely. And this fits the bill perfectly. It's cheesy and funny and yet dark and complicated. Just right.
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Date: 2006-03-24 09:39 pm (UTC)Ahhh, Jude. Such a good and underrated movie. I am full of glee someone else has seen it!
But yeah, he has this inspired insanity thing going on that is just to die for.
She isn't anyone that I would particularly like to be, aside from getting to be with the Doctor
I don't know if I'd like to be her (I am not good about department store work) but I wouldn't mind being with her (not in the Biblical sense, but in the 'hanging out with' sense). So I do like her. And plus, I guess she is a shagging representative. :P
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Date: 2006-03-24 09:41 pm (UTC)Hee! She's all we have to work with, so it's true!
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Date: 2006-03-24 11:21 pm (UTC)the Doctor (played by someone named Baker, according to Husband)
Hopefully that was Tom Baker, not Colin Baker. Tom was number three, the one with the scarf and the jelly babies. Commonly thought of as the best Doctor before Chris Eccleston came along. Colin Baker was number six. He was blond and slightly annoying though not nearly as annoying as Melanie Bush, the bint (played by Bonnie Langford) he had following him around the universe.
But I digress. As you can probably guess, I grew up with Doctor Who - my brother is an absolute fanatic so it was always on in the background and there was a period of a few years where there was a marathon every Sunday morning that he had to watch and I often ended up watching it too. It's always had a special place in my heart and I could name all the Doctors in order and I had a favourite companion and all that, but I was never really a proper fan until the new series. Russell T. Davies is an absolute genius for what he's done with this show. Season two is starting over here sometime in the next couple of months and I can't wait! :D
I really love Rose ... I think I might have a girlcrush.
Oh, totally! Rose really surprised me actually. I was very skeptical about Billie Piper's casting as I remembered her as a crappy pop star in the late 90s and I wasn't particularly impressed with what I'd seen of her acting before DW. I was all set to slate her and hate her but damn did she prove me wrong!
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Date: 2006-03-24 11:27 pm (UTC)I was very skeptical about Billie Piper's casting as I remembered her as a crappy pop star in the late 90s and I wasn't particularly impressed with what I'd seen of her acting before DW. I was all set to slate her and hate her but damn did she prove me wrong!
I've never heard of her before this show, but I liked her from the first, because she came on the screen and she actually looked like a real woman. Meat on her bones, nice but not 'spent three hours doing it' hair and common-sense and cheerful manner.
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Date: 2006-03-24 11:54 pm (UTC)The new Doctor is David Tennant, right? He looks familiar but for the life of me I don't know where else I'd seen him.
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Date: 2006-03-25 12:58 am (UTC)David Tennant was in Blackpool and Cassanova. I don't know if you got that over there. I think he was also in Harry Potter.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0855039/
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Date: 2006-03-25 06:46 am (UTC)And I love Rose, Rose is just... everything you've written and the banter! I love my show!
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Date: 2006-03-25 08:15 am (UTC)I never noticed before how alike Crichton and the 9th Doctor are, but you know, you're right. Woah. I feel a strangely large amount of glee now that you've pointed that out to me. Possibly because it's very early morning.
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Date: 2006-03-25 03:23 pm (UTC)And Rose is one of the coolest female TV characters in a long time!
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Date: 2006-03-25 03:25 pm (UTC)And it's weird because this is the first time another show character remindedme of Crichton but somehow the Doctor really does. It's this sort of inspired insanity with a massive unspoken dark desperation he has. Sigh...
Also, icon!!!
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Date: 2006-03-25 09:06 pm (UTC)I hope all the new people like yourself will write some more fic... some of the older lot are waiting for the new season.
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Date: 2006-03-27 12:33 pm (UTC)Bob
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Date: 2006-03-27 01:17 pm (UTC)I am so tempted to go look for fic, but don't want to be spoiled!
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Date: 2006-03-28 04:24 pm (UTC)There ought to be a newbie guide to fic, with the best and sorted according to spoilers. But it would probably take a lot of searching.
But, yes, don't spoil yourself. I did, because I never thought it would come to NZ, but wanted to know all about the show.