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Finally got around to watching the first two episodes of the new Dr. Who that scifi showed last week.

I. Am. In. Love. I have a new fandom and I am giddy with glee.

I remember watching an old Dr. Who ep on PBS a few years back: the Doctor (played by someone named Baker, according to Husband) was a bizarro individual, the budget was nil and the cheese factor temporarily made me lactose intolerant. But I did want to give this new one a try, since so many people on my flist liked it, and plus Husband is a Doctor fan (Whovian? Whovellian?).

Love. So much love. I've liked Christopher Eccleston ever since Elizabeth (one of the few good things about that awful movie) and Jude. But I never liked him as much as the amiable lunatic that is the Doctor. A lunatic with a hard, dark edge. Nine is a mix of a Pratchett character and a British Crichton. There is humor and it's razor sharp. And there are nuggets of angst in the sharpness. This sort of edgy, angsty irreverence is a lot more my thing (witness Firefly or Farscape) than BSG's unending solemnity.

Husband says they are making the Doctor a lot darker than previously. I have no basis for comparison, but I do like the dark edges: he is a war veteran and his planet has been destroyed, and he is the last of his people, and his manic humor reminds me a lot of Crichton's humor in later seasons. What else can you do but laugh? If you stop to think you'll want to knock your head against the wall. It's like a willfully put on mask, and sometimes it slips, as in when he sees that Tree Girl burn, or when he calls back that last Human who engineered the deaths of those beings and watches her literally crack herself to death. Rose is telling him 'help her' but he just stands and watches. And I remember thinking "this is not a guy you want to cross." Basically, he's seen too much and there is darkness in him. But also arrogance, that is so off-hand you can't even be offended at it. And I love when he shows off TARDIS like a kid. I think he wants Rose to come with him so much because he is, putting aside the veil of bravado, and words, and eccentricity, lonely.

I really love Rose. She is useful and practical and really really cool. She is also pretty in that very real "cute girl you see on the street" way and not in an impossibly glam Hollywood way. And she makes a pretty good friend. I love her reaction to Nine telling her the truth about his homeworld. She breaks up the moment by telling him she smells chips and let's get some. And it's perfect. I think I might have a girlcrush. I don't know if they will ever hook up (if they do, great, if not, that's great too, as I like their friends intereactions), but I can see why people write so much Nine/Rose.

Fave quote?

(After Doctor tells her he is an alien) Rose: So why do you sound as if you are from the North?
Doctor: Lots of planets are from the North.

The cheese and limited budget is still there, but this time it's endearingly so.

Now I need icons and fic. New fandom awaits!

Date: 2006-03-24 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Although I'm a Whovian from way back, I fell hard for the new Dr. last week.

Alas, since this is still considered a children's show, there will be no hooking up. Not that fans don't fill in the blanks anyway.

I want to get into the fandom, but internet fandoms scare me, they're so much like drinking from a firehose.

Date: 2006-03-24 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koalathebear.livejournal.com
I've collected a bunch of Dr Who icons here in case you're interested. Some of 9 and some of 10. As you know, I also adore the new Who :) It's a great series and I can't wait until the new season starts.

Date: 2006-03-24 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterspel.livejournal.com
Ahhh, finally. :) I am so, so glad you've come over to the new Who. Who is Love. :) I hope you enjoy the rest! They're a treat.

Date: 2006-03-24 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
there will be no hooking up

That's OK. I actually love Dr/Rose interactions the way they are, so don't need anything more.

But children's show? Really. Hmmmm. I guess I thought it wasn't because it's on scifi at 10.

internet fandoms scare me, they're so much like drinking from a firehose

That's part of the fun, though, even if it does eat up your time something fierce.

Date: 2006-03-24 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexandral.livejournal.com
EEE!! I also recently discovered Dr. Who (Christopher Eccleston) love! He is just a right combination of crazy/dark humor/much more on the inside then on the outside type!!

Date: 2006-03-24 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
All these icons are making me all giddy with glee!

I am actuallly more excited about Fridays now than I was when BSG was still on. There is just something irresistably off the wall about the Doctor!

Date: 2006-03-24 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Ooooh, icons. Thank you thank you thank you.

When does the new season start again?

Date: 2006-03-24 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
crazy/dark humor/much more on the inside then on the outside

Yup, he is totally irresistable!

Date: 2006-03-24 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koalathebear.livejournal.com
All I've been told is 'Easter'. Lucky you though - quite a few episodes to get through before you're through :) And you still have the 'Children in need' special ep and the "Christmas Invasion' episode ahead of you!

Date: 2006-03-24 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
How many eps are in this season?

I am so greedy though, I want to watch them all NOW.

Date: 2006-03-24 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterspel.livejournal.com
In the BBC, Doctor Who has always been considered family programming. That being said, this new Who definitely pushed the limits of what BBC might consider ok for kids because some of it is really skeeeery.

Date: 2006-03-24 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grace-om.livejournal.com
Oh thank goodness! Now I'll know what you're talking about again :-P~~~~~

Date: 2006-03-24 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Heeee. Have you seen it? It's so good. And I am just filled with missionary fervor! :P

Date: 2006-03-24 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koalathebear.livejournal.com
13 then you get the Children in Need Special then Christmas Invasion. You can download them all here. No idea how fast your connection is. The full episode guide is here.

Date: 2006-03-24 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
15. Yesssssssss! My day is made. And thank for the link!

Date: 2006-03-24 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grace-om.livejournal.com
Yes, we watched the first two last week, and will definitely be watching tonight. My husband's an old Whosit from way back. Not sure I'll a FAN, as opposed to a fan, but I too like the edgier new doc, as well as Rose, for pretty much the same reasons as you. Their dynamic is very watchable.

Doesn't quite make up for no BSG until October, but definitely keeps Friday night TV something to look forward to!

Date: 2006-03-24 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yes, I really like the off-the-wall fun this show has. I might actually *gasp* like it better than BSG because I love when shows make me laugh. Can't wait to see more!

Date: 2006-03-24 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_atmospheric/
I love Doctor Who. I saw some of the old ones too- meh.

Favorite quote:
"I'm the Doctor, by the way, what's your name?"
"Rose."
"Nice to meet you, Rose. Run for your life!"

Date: 2006-03-24 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Oh, I love that one too. Hilarious!

Date: 2006-03-24 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maddeinin.livejournal.com
Fantastic!

Date: 2006-03-24 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
It seems I am the last person on the planet (or at least the flist) to discover the goodness that is Dr. Who but I am so full of glee at the thought of more!

Date: 2006-03-24 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
Eeee, Dr. Who! It's not a show I watch, but one I'm quite curious about. So I'm quite excited that you are watching it :D

Date: 2006-03-24 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
It's just as well that you are curious, as I foresee this lj becoming a Who-heavy zone for the next few weeks :P

Date: 2006-03-24 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
Sounds good to me! (and hey it can't be worse than my Prison Break insanity :D)

Date: 2006-03-24 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelana.livejournal.com
Plus, I've been curious about Dr. Who ever since reading this.

Date: 2006-03-24 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
That's a great post. And yeah, I usually don't fall this hard this quick, but this time it's Firefly level insanity here.

Date: 2006-03-24 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weissman.livejournal.com
The cheese and limited budget is still there, but this time it's endearingly so. "

With out the cheese and the limited budget it wouldn't be Dr. Who. I also love the new darkness and the new DR. Welcome to the wonderful world of Dr. Who, and anyway we need something interesting to do between now and October, while we wait to find out where Sharon and Helo are.

Bob

Date: 2006-03-24 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weissman.livejournal.com
Why am I not surprised that you are a big Dr. Who fan.
I have been a Dr. Who fan since 1980.
Bob

Date: 2006-03-24 09:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] morwen_peredhil
(For some reason I don't have any DW icons yet. Must remedy this immediately.)

I have liked Christopher Eccleston ever since Jude, and his Doctor is making me flail with glee. I watched the Four and Five stuff PBS showed back in the eighties, and although I loved it at the time the new version is so much better (not quite to the old versus new BSG level, but in the ballpark).

I'm neutral on Rose so far. She isn't anyone that I would particularly like to be, aside from getting to be with the Doctor, so my Morwen Sue is having a field day!

Date: 2006-03-24 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
we need something interesting to do between now and October, while we wait to find out where Sharon and Helo are.


Precisely. And this fits the bill perfectly. It's cheesy and funny and yet dark and complicated. Just right.

Date: 2006-03-24 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I have liked Christopher Eccleston ever since Jude

Ahhh, Jude. Such a good and underrated movie. I am full of glee someone else has seen it!

But yeah, he has this inspired insanity thing going on that is just to die for.

She isn't anyone that I would particularly like to be, aside from getting to be with the Doctor

I don't know if I'd like to be her (I am not good about department store work) but I wouldn't mind being with her (not in the Biblical sense, but in the 'hanging out with' sense). So I do like her. And plus, I guess she is a shagging representative. :P

Date: 2006-03-24 09:41 pm (UTC)
morwen_peredhil: (kara comic)
From: [personal profile] morwen_peredhil
plus, I guess she is a shagging representative. :P

Hee! She's all we have to work with, so it's true!

Date: 2006-03-24 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emily-anne.livejournal.com
Yay, new Who fan!

the Doctor (played by someone named Baker, according to Husband)

Hopefully that was Tom Baker, not Colin Baker. Tom was number three, the one with the scarf and the jelly babies. Commonly thought of as the best Doctor before Chris Eccleston came along. Colin Baker was number six. He was blond and slightly annoying though not nearly as annoying as Melanie Bush, the bint (played by Bonnie Langford) he had following him around the universe.

But I digress. As you can probably guess, I grew up with Doctor Who - my brother is an absolute fanatic so it was always on in the background and there was a period of a few years where there was a marathon every Sunday morning that he had to watch and I often ended up watching it too. It's always had a special place in my heart and I could name all the Doctors in order and I had a favourite companion and all that, but I was never really a proper fan until the new series. Russell T. Davies is an absolute genius for what he's done with this show. Season two is starting over here sometime in the next couple of months and I can't wait! :D

I really love Rose ... I think I might have a girlcrush.

Oh, totally! Rose really surprised me actually. I was very skeptical about Billie Piper's casting as I remembered her as a crappy pop star in the late 90s and I wasn't particularly impressed with what I'd seen of her acting before DW. I was all set to slate her and hate her but damn did she prove me wrong!

Date: 2006-03-24 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Yup, it was Tom Baker, because I remember the scarf. Husband is a huge Whovian. He watched all the eps he could get his hands on etc. I never really was interested in giving it a chance until I got to this series. So good. And I love the writing. It's so razor sharp.

I was very skeptical about Billie Piper's casting as I remembered her as a crappy pop star in the late 90s and I wasn't particularly impressed with what I'd seen of her acting before DW. I was all set to slate her and hate her but damn did she prove me wrong!

I've never heard of her before this show, but I liked her from the first, because she came on the screen and she actually looked like a real woman. Meat on her bones, nice but not 'spent three hours doing it' hair and common-sense and cheerful manner.

Date: 2006-03-24 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ficchica.livejournal.com
I don't know that Dr Who was particularly darker than it has been, there has always been currents of darkness running through. The 7th Dr was always rather dark. I have to admit I never warmed to CE as The Doctor. OK the Dr is a trifle eccentric and strange, perhaps somewhat mad but he isn't the escapee from an intergalactic lunatic asylum kind of mad that CE brought to the role. I was glad when I heard he was going. Ten is much better.

Date: 2006-03-24 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Awwwwww. I really love CE. He has this very lucid madcapness that reminds me of my favorite TV character: John Crichton. But YMMV of course.

The new Doctor is David Tennant, right? He looks familiar but for the life of me I don't know where else I'd seen him.

Date: 2006-03-25 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ficchica.livejournal.com
I loved John Crichton and the leather but CE just played the doctor like a nutter. I always got the impression he was playing at being the doctor. I never got the impression he was the doctor. I wouldn't have been surprised if he turned out to be the master(despite 8 killing him off)

David Tennant was in Blackpool and Cassanova. I don't know if you got that over there. I think he was also in Harry Potter.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0855039/

Date: 2006-03-25 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grimorie.livejournal.com
Dr. Who love! I love this show so much and yes, the Ninth Doctor sort of reminds me of Crichton and gaaah.... just... LOVE.

And I love Rose, Rose is just... everything you've written and the banter! I love my show!

Date: 2006-03-25 08:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mythverdandi.livejournal.com
Welcome to the fandom! Heehee

I never noticed before how alike Crichton and the 9th Doctor are, but you know, you're right. Woah. I feel a strangely large amount of glee now that you've pointed that out to me. Possibly because it's very early morning.

Date: 2006-03-25 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
It's the banter that really drew me in at first. Banter+darkness=perfect.

And Rose is one of the coolest female TV characters in a long time!

Date: 2006-03-25 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Thank you!

And it's weird because this is the first time another show character remindedme of Crichton but somehow the Doctor really does. It's this sort of inspired insanity with a massive unspoken dark desperation he has. Sigh...

Also, icon!!!

Date: 2006-03-25 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melata-fic.livejournal.com
This reminds me so much of my first reaction. *grins* Welcome to the Who fandom.

I hope all the new people like yourself will write some more fic... some of the older lot are waiting for the new season.

Date: 2006-03-27 12:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weissman.livejournal.com
Hooah! DM

Bob

Date: 2006-03-27 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
Heeee. Icon!

I am so tempted to go look for fic, but don't want to be spoiled!

Date: 2006-03-28 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melata-fic.livejournal.com
*grin* I stole the text from [livejournal.com profile] cleolinda's icon revolution, because it totally suited the picture (and contrast/lighting is a great effect *grin*).

There ought to be a newbie guide to fic, with the best and sorted according to spoilers. But it would probably take a lot of searching.

But, yes, don't spoil yourself. I did, because I never thought it would come to NZ, but wanted to know all about the show.

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