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dangermousie ([personal profile] dangermousie) wrote2007-07-31 07:44 pm

Ranting about classic lit

You know how I am the ultimate canon hor, right? If it's in canon, I'll like it OK, shipwise.

EXCEPT.

WTF.

[livejournal.com profile] lesbiassparrow reminded me. WTF. Little Women. Why on earth did Jo and Laurie not end up together? Is there anyone out there who ships Jo/Bauer? Seriously. A friend of mine literally threw her book across the room when she got to that point.

Also, Mansfield Park. When I was younger, I even wrote Henry/Fanny fic. Edmund+Fanny are total priggish incest. Though they can preach at each other all day long. Yikes. Come on, Henry is the only one with a sense of humor in that book. I sort of get how Spike/Buffy shippers felt now.

[identity profile] calixa.livejournal.com 2007-07-31 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I still ship Elinor and Colonel Brandon.

The author was being perverse

[identity profile] ficchica.livejournal.com 2007-07-31 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
"Later Alcott wrote to a friend about Jo's marriage: "Jo should have remained a literary spinster but so many enthusiastic young ladies wrote to me clamorously demanding that she should marry Laurie, or somebody, that I didn't dare to refuse and out of perversity went and made a funny match for her."

She might have found it funny but I certainly didn't. I threw down the book in disgust and have never been able to read or watch Little Women & the sequel again.

[identity profile] janlake83.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
yeah i never got how fanny married her cousin its a little too close to the family tree since they also grew up together.... but yeah i was totally rooting for jo and laurie in little women.... it was a bummer that he settled for second best by marrying amy * is it wrong to think that???*

[identity profile] kitsune714.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Don't even get me started on Laurie/Jo. I was ten years old and it was probably my first literary OTP ever and I'm STILL pissed about it.

[identity profile] muffinkath7.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Jo not ending up with Laurie is the biggest travesty of literature. It's like if Anne hadn't ended up with Gilbert. Crazy. I still get pissed off about it when I think about it.

[identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
OMG!! Someone who also ships Henry/Fanny! *hugs* You know, I was kinda surprised by the ending of Mansfield Park. I was so sure that Fanny could change and actually make a better man out of Henry. I still believe his will to settle was genuine and quite strong. Oddly enough, Mansfield Park is my favourite novel along Northanger Abbey from Austen.

And I still can't get the fact that Laurie ends up with the tiny annoying brat. I just can't. Total denial.

[identity profile] eccequambonum.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
gosh it has ben so long since i read MP, but i remember rooting for Edmund. the whole cousin thing didn't squick me -- i always had my nose in a history or period book to the point i was rather dissappointd my cousins were all such lame-asses and terrible marriage prospects. . . . i should probably pick it up again and see if ::coughcough:: 20+yearsdownthepike ::coughcough:: my sentiments on ships in that one change. mmm, most likely.

do NOT get me started on Louisa May Alcott. i practically threw i riot when after slogging through that thing i don't even get the bloody satisfaction of Jo/Laurie. furious! enraged! and have never, ever read a LMA book again, never will, and refuse to watch the movie version though i did sneak a peak at the most recent one because hello! Christian Bale! but ew, Winnona Ryder? kill me now. she needed to stop at Heathers)
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[identity profile] summertea.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
My first true literature book and LMA ruined me with Laurie marrying Amy and not Jo. They were goddamn perfect for each other.

[identity profile] smartylibrarian.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Is there anyone out there who ships Jo/Bauer? Seriously. A friend of mine literally threw her book across the room when she got to that point.
Make that two friends who threw their books across the room :P I never could finish that book after that awful Professor made his entry.
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[personal profile] morwen_peredhil 2007-08-01 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I'm still bitter that Louisa May Alcott destroyed my Jo/Laurie OTP. VERY BITTER.

[identity profile] autumnflame.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Hah! I'm glad to see I'm not alone!

All throughout Sense and Sensibility, I kept getting the persistent feeling of, "Dagnabbit, Colonel Brandon, Marianne's far too flighty for you. Look at Elinor, so wonderful and steady and appreciative!" And then I wondered if I was letting shipping go too far.

[identity profile] aoimidori.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
it's not even just that jo and laurie didn't end up together, which already sucks to beging with, it's that LAURIE ENDED UP WITH AMY and jo ended up with some guy introduced at whichever part of the book WTF.

my friends and i were just talking about this recently, actually. :p

[identity profile] tatterpunk.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Er. I liked Jo/Bauer? Laurie was too much of a brat for me. I was upset when Jo dumped him, yeah, but I thought he proved her right by his idiotic behavior afterward.

I like the idea of Henry/Fanny, but I like the fact that in the actual book he's all, "Fanny, only you can save me and make me a good man!" And she delivers the ultimate beatdown in "If you're really a good man, you can save yourself."

Austen just rocks that way.

[identity profile] missmarch.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Ha, I remember ranting about that in my LJ before too. Bauer is okay in the movie because he's played by Gabriel Byrne(yum, but otherwise NO. Jo/Laurie-still original OTP. They belonged together.

It did teach me my first (painful) lesson about fictional couples-I shouldn't expect them to go the way I want them to-they rarely do.

[identity profile] calixa.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Not to mention that hack Edward and his indecisiveness!! Besides, Emma Thompson and Alan Rickman look good together in the film adaptation.

still. bitter. about. jo. and. laurie.

[identity profile] calledinvain.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
and then he was played by christian bale in the movie and it was like, well, LOUISA MAY ALCOTT, FUCK YOU.

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
No, no one on Earth ships anything in Little Women but Jo and Laurie. In fact all I really, clearly recall about the books is "WTF???? Whay aren't they hooking up?"

Fanny and Edmund are ok as individuals, but together...*shudders* Fanny/Henry had such potential...all he needed to completely reform was to be thrown a bone. I mean...she had the guy willing to chase her over England and change who he was and defy social strictures for her...and she had the guy who did nothing because daddy said "no," and WHO does she choose?

*sigh*

[identity profile] elvensapphire.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
Besides, Emma Thompson and Alan Rickman look good together in the film adaptation.

It's so true.

[identity profile] bennet-7.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
Every time I read the book or see the film, a little voice in the back of my head goes, Elinor and Brandon would be sooo awesome together."

Because they really would.

[identity profile] elvensapphire.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
This has been said, but to re-iterate it: He EFFING ends up with AMY. Amy and her nose. Why?!?!

It's got to be the worst canon ship decision ever that Laurie and Jo don't end up together, because it's so clear they belong together. Ugh.

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[identity profile] kittykatz.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 11:07 am (UTC)(link)
I guess for me, Jo and Laurie grew up together, he was more like a brother to her than anything. That's how I saw it. I didn't adore Jo/Bauer, but I didn't hate them either.

[identity profile] outof-focus.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
Is there anyone out there who ships Jo/Bauer
MOST DEFINITELY NOT MEEEE. I love love loved Laurie, loved him even more in the movie (Christian Bale <3 <3 <3). I get pissed whenever I think about it. IDK if I were Jo I'd never be OK with Laurie being married to her sister.

[identity profile] carviangli.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol...yess!! The little women ahem "OTP" ship never worked for me...personally Laurie seemed like a MUCH smarter choice. Childhood friend? Cute(much more than that Spanish professor) and very sweet PLUS someone you get along with like a house on fire...OK WTF?! I swear that was THE most screwed up thing ever...!!!

My friend literally started screaming in the middle of movie and was soo in hysterics when she saw it...I didn't show as much err...enthusiam but it was just as heart-shattering for me....

I think the best way to explain is that episode of Friends when Joey reads the book and is so shocked at the ending that he puts it in the freezer...best episode ever! It was so funny....but so true! That's exactly how 99% of people felt about that.

*sigh*

It could have been this great love story and it totally has all my favourite cliches/kinks. I mean I literally fall HEAD OVER HEALS in love with childhood love stories(because I have one myself:P:P) so I MUCH more prone to liking them if it has that.

Except those weird doramas where they met just once when they were children...I mean FULL FLEDGED best friends who liked spent every waking moment together(hehe:P)...I think Tokyo Juliet and Millionaire's first love were two were, although I liked the OTP's I didn't find the "childhood love" aspect as glee-inducing because it was just one or two meetings.

I think Proposal Daisukusen would be the primary example. I fell COMPLETELY in love with it because of that reason(and because that romance/relationship basically mirrors the one I had with a close guyfriend) so yeah, pluaible childhood romance=total kink for me:P

Yet to read Mansfield Park...but will get on when my sister buys Jane Austen's entire collection this weekend:P

[identity profile] ladysaotome.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It's been so long since I've read Little Women I'd almost forgotten how much I disliked that pairing. Bauer seemed sweet - but it was like marrying her grandfather or something. And I cryed for poor dumped Teddy. If she had written it differently I might not have minded - made it a mutual love-you-but-not-in-that-way kind of thing (like Yuki & Tohru). But having Teddy heartbroken just pissed me off to no end.

[identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a deep dark confession. I shipped Marianne/Willougby.

:P

In the movie, I totally could see AR and ET as sooooo compatible, so I guess that makes me movie!Elinor/Brandon shipper. Though I mainly ship Brandon with whatever he wants :)

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