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Apparently the production team announced Boys Over Flowers might have a different ending which got people in a panic.

Heh. Good way too drum up flagging interest, production guys!

People at [livejournal.com profile] hydkorea seem to be split into three camps: pissed-off JP/Jandi shippers 'noooo, must have JP/Jandi;' prayerful Ji Hoo/Jandi shippers 'Please, please, does it mean Ji Hoo/Jandi' and the hopeful Yi Jung/Ga Eul shippers 'who cares what happens with main love quadrangle as long as we have Yi Jung/Ga Eul, please.'



I confess I am in that last camp. There is a snowball's chance in hell that this drama won't end JP/Jandi, however badly I think the writers messed up that relationship and however little evidence they gave me that those two truly have this amazing love. Forget fans hunting them down, Yoko Kamio herself would probably come down on them like an avenging angel for totally wrecking the main premise of her baby. Not to mention when was the last time a kdrama didn't have the main guy get the girl? Spring Day is the only one I can think of that arguably fits the bill, ever, and it wasn't based on an iconic manga.

I would love for it for this drama to go Ji Hoo/Jandi because the bizarre writing and character massacres in BOF made me find Ji Hoo much more compatible and much more in love with Jandi than Jun Pyo ever was, and find Jandi have a lot more fun and be herself with Ji Hoo and not Jun Pyo for the first time in my life (insanity: the manga/Taiwanese/Japanese adaptation versions of Jun Pyo/Jandi are one of my ultimate ever OTPs) but see snowball's chance comment above. I can't even bother to get het up about it.

If there is a chance they will deviate from the manga in ultimate shipping, that chance lies with Yi Jung/Ga Eul: they have been hinting about a different ending for them all along, they are side characters and not the mains for whom the story is set, and in the manga it is left rather open so it's not as if they would be violate some set in stone other OTP for them. Plus, the hordes of fangirls for them are immense - on the shipping poll at hydkorea comm, they won as the OTP most people want over both JP/Jandi and JH/Jandi. They are, frankly, by now the OTP I care about, as opposed to the main ones. They are doing with them the beloved-of-kdramas cliche of "damaged rich boy with evil family and plucky cheerful well adjusted poor girl" and frankly that cliche is popular for a reason. Sadly, that is really a pretty good description of the main OTP in the original but they screwed it up here, so Yi Jung/Ga Eul, full speed ahead! I'd watch a whole drama about your flirting and emo. (Too bad earlier written YJ/GE spoilers were false. I'd like to see kissing).

Anyway, a different ending doesn't even have to mean ship - what everyone seems to forget is that manga ends largely the way Hanadan1 ended - JP equivalent going away to NY to work as a bargain with Mama with Jandi equivalent waiting for him (they got engaged in a one-shot later but I also doubt BOF will end with the one-shot scenario and have them go to Italy - hello budget!). And Hanadan2 and Meteor Garden and anime all did their own endings. So different ending will just mean they come up with yet another way to tie it up.

Anyway, on another note, the first ep of Princess Ja Myung Go is out on viikii entirely with subs. Check it out, how can you not want to? Here are the last ten minutes from the first ep: dysfunction, women warriors, fratricide, doomed love and betrayal. Mmmm.



Also, I am so predicatable. I liked PJMG from the first minute but the precise moment I fell in love? When the following conversation occurred between King Daemushin and his son Prince Hodong:

Hodong: Your Majesty, what did you tell me before? You said if only you gain Nakrang without any blood being spilt, you would bestow leniency on them. Take pity on them. The other way there will be no end to rebellion and we will all die.
Daemushin: Your own grandfather, King Yuri, killed his own two sons. I was young and I could not understand that. How could he? How can a father kill his own child. Unless he was crazy, how could he kill his sons? I finally understand him today. For a King, a son with other intentions is nothing but a political enemy. A political enemy that must be killed and gotten rid of.
Hodong: Do you wish to kill me?
Daemushin: [throws down a puppet of a woman] You must know who this wench is. Who is she?
Hodong: It is Emperor Choi Ri's unknown daughter, Princess Ja Myung.
Daemushin: Find her and kill her.
Hodong: Father, I cannot do that! I...I...that woman...
Daemushin: When you chop off the head of that woman Jae Myung, I will make you the Crown Prince. If you father is King Daemushin, who has expanded his kingdom, then you must survive and show all other nations how to rule that kingdom.
Hodong: Your subject Hodong accepts Your Highness' command.

Heee. So, will he try to kill his OTP to achieve his ambitions? He already compromised any integrity he had quite a lot, to achieve them. And she was willing to kill him to save her country. Hmmmm.

I am a sucker for fictional dysfunctional families, and there is no dysfunction like period drama dysfunction. Also, I love my protagonists to be on the dark side, and Hodong (just like Princess Ra Hee) qualifies in spades. I guess Jae Myung gets to be the pure one.

Did I mention the part later on in flashback where an adviser tells Daemushin that if Hodong fails to get Ra Hee to destroy the sacred drum of her kingdom, he would have to be exiled. And Daemushin turns to adviser and (in Hodong's hearing) is all 'why so lenient, adviser? I will get my kid to off himself, if he fails, I don't need any weakings around.' Charming family. The scary thing? I can so see the protagonist of Kingdom of the Winds, the one I adored so and who is a younger version of Daemushin, turn into this cold, closed-off ruthless person.

Date: 2009-03-14 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkwithheroes.livejournal.com
I read about the possible changed ending. I can't believe they might change an ending to a classic manga/shows/anime just because. They really screwed up with JP/JD and I can't see them fixing it in time. Perhaps they see that as well and have just decided to screw it? Interesting note: Umi (the girl who takes advance during the memory loss storyline) will apparently appear in episodes twenty-three and twenty-four. Maybe. Unless that's a false rumor.



At this point, I think I'm in the 'who cares what happens with main love quadrangle as long as we have Yi Jung/Ga Eul, please.' camp myself. I watch for their scenes and Woo Bin.

Date: 2009-03-15 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
Just passing by to say the awesomeness of your icon.

Date: 2009-03-15 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] walkwithheroes.livejournal.com
thanks. I didn't make it though, [livejournal.com profile] carmendove did

Date: 2009-03-15 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
This icon is amazing!

At this point, I think I'm in the 'who cares what happens with main love quadrangle as long as we have Yi Jung/Ga Eul, please.' camp myself. I watch for their scenes and Woo Bin.

Oh yes.

Date: 2009-03-14 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scanky-chops.livejournal.com
I am probably one of the 'Jun Pyo/Jandi' fans but i would be ok with a Ji Hoo/Jandi ending PROVIDED they gave the JP/JD ship a good enough closure/ending. Because what with it sounding like JK finally getting a clue and the Umi storyline they'd be pushing the JP/JD to the very end. And you'd have to consider, would the twist be instead of JH being the one who's left alone (like in the other versions) it's JP? Which makes absolutely no sense 'cos he's the male lead.

Regarding JP/JD in general i've been skim watching the first half of the show and the complete difference in Jandi when she's with JP to how she is with JH is astounding. Yes, she's had a lot of crap thrown at her which JH helps her with but she seriously sparks when she's with JP. I think the scenes of her and him 'stalking' YJ/GE as well as them being neighbours bring that back to us.

I dunno. I don't want to be one of those 'JP/JD FOREVER DIE JH/JD DIE!' fangirls and i seriously think it's a JP focus first half, JH focus second half storyline (making more angst) but i think it's one of those things that we'll either love or hate.

And if it's bad, i'll just stick to watching the first half and pretending it finished at the snowed in cabin scene lol. XD

Date: 2009-03-14 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ambergold.livejournal.com
good point. Now that I think about it, this drama is highly biploar/schizophrenic - it's almost like there's 2 different dramas in one, one in which she's with JP, one in which she's with JH, and it's like the drama can't make up it's mind which to go with so keep's toying with both ideas.

Date: 2009-03-14 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scanky-chops.livejournal.com
If you think about it, there's three what with GE/YJ. And anyway, if you think about it, it could be seen as this: first half JP/JD with JH busy with Shizuka. second half JH/JD with JP busy with JK. Yeah, so the JH/Shizuka got resolved pretty quickly but then we all liked Shizuka lol. Plus there's the fact that Shizuka/Ji Hoo are VERY similar and likewise JP/JK. Oh and we had Haje as the interest for JD at one point too.

I think what i'm trying to say is we've all got so hung up on JK that we've forgotten what else has happened in the series. If they decided to ignore all of that then they can. It'll just be a total waste of the series.

Date: 2009-03-15 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
The problem with something like the stalking scene is that it's cute in abstract but it makes no sense in context or in plot placement - in the original it made sense - they were try-dating and Sojiro wanted to help them get closer. But here? I couldn't really get into it too much because it was so out of place.

In the second half, they made jandi so weak and spineless that it made me think this is her true personality and she is that way with everyone except, for some odd reason, with JP.

I like your idea of thinking it ended at ep 12. First half was just so good!

Date: 2009-03-14 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ambergold.livejournal.com
Yupyup. I didn't even bother getting my hopes for a second with the "different ending". I thought/believed for the space of exactly 1 day that there was a chance that they'd go Ji-Hoo/Jandi, but then I came to my senses. That would make both too much sense(plot-wise) and too little(changing such an iconic work and pissing off what's still a large majority of fans).

But the fact that most people are in it for Ga Eul/Yi Jung now says everything about how badly they've wrecked this drama. the couple's always popular, but never before so much at cost of OTP.

Date: 2009-03-15 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
But the fact that most people are in it for Ga Eul/Yi Jung now says everything about how badly they've wrecked this drama. the couple's always popular, but never before so much at cost of OTP.

Exactly - they really screwed up.

Btw, your post on how you are fed up with BOF but can't stop checking hydkorea etc? So how I feel. I don't even like this drama any more, but I cannot stay away.

Date: 2009-03-16 07:23 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-03-14 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wingstodust.livejournal.com
*.* I'm so, so happy that someone on my f-list is gonna follow PJMG with me~~~ *.* I love it so far! *.* Gah, where is 2nd episode?! *weeps in withdrawal*

Date: 2009-03-15 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I wish more people were following it - it's so good!

Date: 2009-03-14 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booknerd14.livejournal.com
sad to say i am a "pissed-off JP/Jandi shippers 'noooo, must have JP/Jandi" person. =S i wasn't as annoyed, but every since the day episode 18 finished, i've slowly been getting more and more frustrated. they're really ruining the story for me.

Forget fans hunting them down, Yoko Kamio herself would probably come down on them like an avenging angel for totally wrecking the main premise of her baby.

now that you mention it, i wonder if she's been keeping up with the mess that this adaptation's become. i know it's pretty biased, but if i were her, i'd probably be livid if they end didn't got as my original story did. especially with what she'd put them through. =S

Date: 2009-03-15 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
now that you mention it, i wonder if she's been keeping up with the mess that this adaptation's become. i know it's pretty biased, but if i were her, i'd probably be livid if they end didn't got as my original story did. especially with what she'd put them through. =S

Unless they do something drastic like change the otp ending, I don't think she cares as long as she got her royalties :)

Date: 2009-03-14 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-dian.livejournal.com
I do agree that BOF would most probably end up Jan Di/Jun Pyo. And yea, hopefully Yi Jung and Ga Eul will get together, unlike in the other versions. And all will be a happy camper (much as I adore Ji Hoo/Jan Di, somehow I just find it wrong for Jan Di to be with anyone else than Jun Pyo in the end, LOL).

Am watching Return of Iljimae (up to ep 4) and I LOVE. I love that Jung Il Woo is so damn pretty and has an uncanny resemblance with Joo Ji Hoon. I mean hello... beautiful...!!! He's the prettiest person amongst all the other cast for goodness sake :D I like the lead actress (though personally Iljimae's mother is prettier IMHO) too.

Date: 2009-03-15 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I agree - Iljimae's mother is the prettiest. So glad you are liking RoI - it's such an undervalued drama!

Date: 2009-03-15 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com
I'm here for Woobin and I've no shame about it :/. But yeah, Gaeul and Yejung is the major "surprise" about this drama so I'm pretty sure that, when they are talking about different ending, they're talking 'bout that.

Date: 2009-03-15 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I hope so. That or maybe the whole story will turn out to be dreamed up by Prince Song :P

Date: 2009-03-15 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bae-mac.livejournal.com
Spring Day is the only one I can think of that arguably fits the bill, ever, and it wasn't based on an iconic manga.


YOu watched this??? Ahhhh! This broke my heart big time!! I love Ji Jin Hee to bits! And I hated the fact that the girl picked Jo In Sung here!

Date: 2009-03-15 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
I am a total JIS fan so I was happy!

Date: 2009-03-15 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bae-mac.livejournal.com
ahehehe! It was like Ji Hoo and Jun Pyo only they traded places.

:)

Date: 2009-03-16 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dangermousie.livejournal.com
LOL - true but I am such a sad JIS fangirl :)

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