dangermousie: (Default)
You can usually tell how obsessed I am about a drama by the amount of caps I take per episode.



Cap count for ep two of Ikemen Desu Ne is 1067 caps. For 45 minutes of run time. Luckily for your connections, I managed to cull it down to a bit of under 130.

Warning: you are about to enter a Mio/Ren zone. Some meta and a heck of a lot of caps )
dangermousie: (Default)
Ummm, I am kinda obsessed with Ikemen Desu Ne. They took all the parts of YAB that I adored and seemed to fix a lot of the parts I found problematic. Now watch me marathon first three eps (first ep alone is close to two hours!!!) as my pile of unwatched kdramas from last week gets longer.

Comments caps and MV of the drama, first ep )
dangermousie: (Mary)
Watching the remake of You're Beautiful, i.e. Ikemen Desu Ne has put me in the mind to rewatch the original and ummmmm ummmmmm ummmmmmm I now have a ridiculous crush on Jang Geun Seok's Tae Kyung and am actually adoring the drama to bits help help help I must be having a brain aneurism.

I think it really helps that I know what to expect (adorablness, shippiness, awesome soundtrack) and what not to expect (deep angst, tight plot, fakecest - I was so sure it would have fakecest, when I watched it the first time around).

OMG.

Brb, shovelling a big slice of crow in my face right now.

Grah.

I want the DVDs now and everything. Have a song from the drama



Seriously, I don't know what's happening to me!

Send heeeeeelp!
dangermousie: (Mary)
Watching the remake of You're Beautiful, i.e. Ikemen Desu Ne has put me in the mind to rewatch the original and ummmmm ummmmmm ummmmmmm I now have a ridiculous crush on Jang Geun Seok's Tae Kyung and am actually adoring the drama to bits help help help I must be having a brain aneurism.

I think it really helps that I know what to expect (adorablness, shippiness, awesome soundtrack) and what not to expect (deep angst, tight plot, fakecest - I was so sure it would have fakecest, when I watched it the first time around).

OMG.

Brb, shovelling a big slice of crow in my face right now.

Grah.

I want the DVDs now and everything. Have a song from the drama



Seriously, I don't know what's happening to me!

Send heeeeeelp!
dangermousie: (Mary)
Watching the remake of You're Beautiful, i.e. Ikemen Desu Ne has put me in the mind to rewatch the original and ummmmm ummmmmm ummmmmmm I now have a ridiculous crush on Jang Geun Seok's Tae Kyung and am actually adoring the drama to bits help help help I must be having a brain aneurism.

I think it really helps that I know what to expect (adorablness, shippiness, awesome soundtrack) and what not to expect (deep angst, tight plot, fakecest - I was so sure it would have fakecest, when I watched it the first time around).

OMG.

Brb, shovelling a big slice of crow in my face right now.

Grah.

I want the DVDs now and everything. Have a song from the drama



Seriously, I don't know what's happening to me!

Send heeeeeelp!
dangermousie: (Mary)
I am sure many of you are aware that last week saw the premiere of the first episode of the jdrama Ikemen Desu Ne, the Japanese remake of the mania kdrama You're Beautiful.



I was very curious to check it out and tonight, seeing that CH subs are not done yet, and I am too brain-dead for anything that requires any concentration, seemed like a good time.

Shocking verdict: I like it!

Let me put this in context - unlike most of the the English-speaking online kdrama fandom, I was not in love with YAB. I started out adoring it, it is true. But as it progressed, I realized that there never was going to be more character development or plot progression that we saw at the start and all the flaws I found so interesting in anticipation of how they would get addressed, never will be. And then, with the bitterness of a disappointed love, my love turned into loathing. I ended the drama thoroughly hating disliking it. Fandom wars around that time didn't help, I confess, and I have mellowed about it since. As of now, I regard it as a well-made and cute drama for which I am much too old to be a target audience, a sort of live-action shoujo, which had an awesome soundtrack and a great performance by Jang Geun Seok, who held that drama together and made me watch much longer than I otherwise would have. It was the beginning of the end of my love affair with Hong Sisters...

Anyway, since I didn't like YAB, the thought of the remake didn't feel me with horror (the way jdrama remake of Mawang did. Mawang is my favorite drama of all time, so any remake felt sacrilegious). I didn't think it could be ruined, frankly.

And one ep in, I am enjoying it hugely (then, granted, I adored YAB in the beginning too).

(1) The jdrama is a lot less OTT and a lot more low-key, which I like. My adoration of KO 3an Guo notwithstanding, OTT and I don't really go well together. A lot of humor that didn't work for me has been taken out even if the concept is still funny - a nun cross-dressing as a boy to join an idol group.
(2) I really like the actress who plays Minam (I am going to use Korean version names because those are the ones I know). Unlike Park Shin Hye's over-the-top naivete (I love PSH but the way the role was done, nobody could have saved it), she just seems sweet.



(3) Whoever plays Tae Kyung is nowhere nearly as good as JGS but I like him OK.



(4) I always thought both Shin Woo and Jeremy were wooden pretty decor so I don't care what they do with them there.
(5) This is going to be half the length of the kdrama and honestly, YAB story could stand to be severely chopped down.
(6) I know what to expect - fun and cuteness and no brain whatsoever and problematic gender takes, so I am more accepting of it.
(7) I am just more tolerant of shallowness (emotional and narrative) and kookiness/shoujoness in jdramas for some reason.



So, overall verdict - objectively it's nowhere near as good as YAB but subjectively I like it better. I will keep up with it.
dangermousie: (Mary)
I am sure many of you are aware that last week saw the premiere of the first episode of the jdrama Ikemen Desu Ne, the Japanese remake of the mania kdrama You're Beautiful.



I was very curious to check it out and tonight, seeing that CH subs are not done yet, and I am too brain-dead for anything that requires any concentration, seemed like a good time.

Shocking verdict: I like it!

Let me put this in context - unlike most of the the English-speaking online kdrama fandom, I was not in love with YAB. I started out adoring it, it is true. But as it progressed, I realized that there never was going to be more character development or plot progression that we saw at the start and all the flaws I found so interesting in anticipation of how they would get addressed, never will be. And then, with the bitterness of a disappointed love, my love turned into loathing. I ended the drama thoroughly hating disliking it. Fandom wars around that time didn't help, I confess, and I have mellowed about it since. As of now, I regard it as a well-made and cute drama for which I am much too old to be a target audience, a sort of live-action shoujo, which had an awesome soundtrack and a great performance by Jang Geun Seok, who held that drama together and made me watch much longer than I otherwise would have. It was the beginning of the end of my love affair with Hong Sisters...

Anyway, since I didn't like YAB, the thought of the remake didn't feel me with horror (the way jdrama remake of Mawang did. Mawang is my favorite drama of all time, so any remake felt sacrilegious). I didn't think it could be ruined, frankly.

And one ep in, I am enjoying it hugely (then, granted, I adored YAB in the beginning too).

(1) The jdrama is a lot less OTT and a lot more low-key, which I like. My adoration of KO 3an Guo notwithstanding, OTT and I don't really go well together. A lot of humor that didn't work for me has been taken out even if the concept is still funny - a nun cross-dressing as a boy to join an idol group.
(2) I really like the actress who plays Minam (I am going to use Korean version names because those are the ones I know). Unlike Park Shin Hye's over-the-top naivete (I love PSH but the way the role was done, nobody could have saved it), she just seems sweet.



(3) Whoever plays Tae Kyung is nowhere nearly as good as JGS but I like him OK.



(4) I always thought both Shin Woo and Jeremy were wooden pretty decor so I don't care what they do with them there.
(5) This is going to be half the length of the kdrama and honestly, YAB story could stand to be severely chopped down.
(6) I know what to expect - fun and cuteness and no brain whatsoever and problematic gender takes, so I am more accepting of it.
(7) I am just more tolerant of shallowness (emotional and narrative) and kookiness/shoujoness in jdramas for some reason.



So, overall verdict - objectively it's nowhere near as good as YAB but subjectively I like it better. I will keep up with it.
dangermousie: (Mary)
I am sure many of you are aware that last week saw the premiere of the first episode of the jdrama Ikemen Desu Ne, the Japanese remake of the mania kdrama You're Beautiful.



I was very curious to check it out and tonight, seeing that CH subs are not done yet, and I am too brain-dead for anything that requires any concentration, seemed like a good time.

Shocking verdict: I like it!

Let me put this in context - unlike most of the the English-speaking online kdrama fandom, I was not in love with YAB. I started out adoring it, it is true. But as it progressed, I realized that there never was going to be more character development or plot progression that we saw at the start and all the flaws I found so interesting in anticipation of how they would get addressed, never will be. And then, with the bitterness of a disappointed love, my love turned into loathing. I ended the drama thoroughly hating disliking it. Fandom wars around that time didn't help, I confess, and I have mellowed about it since. As of now, I regard it as a well-made and cute drama for which I am much too old to be a target audience, a sort of live-action shoujo, which had an awesome soundtrack and a great performance by Jang Geun Seok, who held that drama together and made me watch much longer than I otherwise would have. It was the beginning of the end of my love affair with Hong Sisters...

Anyway, since I didn't like YAB, the thought of the remake didn't feel me with horror (the way jdrama remake of Mawang did. Mawang is my favorite drama of all time, so any remake felt sacrilegious). I didn't think it could be ruined, frankly.

And one ep in, I am enjoying it hugely (then, granted, I adored YAB in the beginning too).

(1) The jdrama is a lot less OTT and a lot more low-key, which I like. My adoration of KO 3an Guo notwithstanding, OTT and I don't really go well together. A lot of humor that didn't work for me has been taken out even if the concept is still funny - a nun cross-dressing as a boy to join an idol group.
(2) I really like the actress who plays Minam (I am going to use Korean version names because those are the ones I know). Unlike Park Shin Hye's over-the-top naivete (I love PSH but the way the role was done, nobody could have saved it), she just seems sweet.



(3) Whoever plays Tae Kyung is nowhere nearly as good as JGS but I like him OK.



(4) I always thought both Shin Woo and Jeremy were wooden pretty decor so I don't care what they do with them there.
(5) This is going to be half the length of the kdrama and honestly, YAB story could stand to be severely chopped down.
(6) I know what to expect - fun and cuteness and no brain whatsoever and problematic gender takes, so I am more accepting of it.
(7) I am just more tolerant of shallowness (emotional and narrative) and kookiness/shoujoness in jdramas for some reason.



So, overall verdict - objectively it's nowhere near as good as YAB but subjectively I like it better. I will keep up with it.
dangermousie: (Default)
For those of you who are in NA, can't get around viki restrictions and can't find downloadable subs/don't like to download, dramafever has just posted the first episode. I would imagine this will be the proper allowed lag, i.e. getting the eps 2 days after thet air, which is not bad at all (I believe Chuno had the same 2-day lag on viki).

I cannot comment whether Heartstrings is worth the effort to find as, due to City Hunter fever, I have yet to watch it, something I plan to remedy this weekend. I do think I will like it - the PD did Worlds Within, my favorite kdrama of all time, and Heartstrings' look and feel remind me of WW. Plus, whatever merit or lack thereof Jung Yonghwa has in acting, he more than remedies through his fierce, natural chemistry with Park Shin Hye. Add in the fact that I adore all four main actors and the type of story, and I am quite hopeful.

Plus, I am ridiculously excited that in this one, they are going to let the actual musician sing. I was always bemused that the idol group in YAB had two "proper" singers (both of whom are damn good!) but almost all the singing went to the amateurs :) I love Jang Geun Seok's singing, I do. Ditto for Park Shin Hye. But they understandably can't compare with the pipes on Jung Yong Hwa or Lee Hongki.
dangermousie: (Default)
For those of you who are in NA, can't get around viki restrictions and can't find downloadable subs/don't like to download, dramafever has just posted the first episode. I would imagine this will be the proper allowed lag, i.e. getting the eps 2 days after thet air, which is not bad at all (I believe Chuno had the same 2-day lag on viki).

I cannot comment whether Heartstrings is worth the effort to find as, due to City Hunter fever, I have yet to watch it, something I plan to remedy this weekend. I do think I will like it - the PD did Worlds Within, my favorite kdrama of all time, and Heartstrings' look and feel remind me of WW. Plus, whatever merit or lack thereof Jung Yonghwa has in acting, he more than remedies through his fierce, natural chemistry with Park Shin Hye. Add in the fact that I adore all four main actors and the type of story, and I am quite hopeful.

Plus, I am ridiculously excited that in this one, they are going to let the actual musician sing. I was always bemused that the idol group in YAB had two "proper" singers (both of whom are damn good!) but almost all the singing went to the amateurs :) I love Jang Geun Seok's singing, I do. Ditto for Park Shin Hye. But they understandably can't compare with the pipes on Jung Yong Hwa or Lee Hongki.
dangermousie: (Default)
For those of you who are in NA, can't get around viki restrictions and can't find downloadable subs/don't like to download, dramafever has just posted the first episode. I would imagine this will be the proper allowed lag, i.e. getting the eps 2 days after thet air, which is not bad at all (I believe Chuno had the same 2-day lag on viki).

I cannot comment whether Heartstrings is worth the effort to find as, due to City Hunter fever, I have yet to watch it, something I plan to remedy this weekend. I do think I will like it - the PD did Worlds Within, my favorite kdrama of all time, and Heartstrings' look and feel remind me of WW. Plus, whatever merit or lack thereof Jung Yonghwa has in acting, he more than remedies through his fierce, natural chemistry with Park Shin Hye. Add in the fact that I adore all four main actors and the type of story, and I am quite hopeful.

Plus, I am ridiculously excited that in this one, they are going to let the actual musician sing. I was always bemused that the idol group in YAB had two "proper" singers (both of whom are damn good!) but almost all the singing went to the amateurs :) I love Jang Geun Seok's singing, I do. Ditto for Park Shin Hye. But they understandably can't compare with the pipes on Jung Yong Hwa or Lee Hongki.
dangermousie: (Meteor Garden: love by _eyecatcher_101)
I have been seeing a lot of criticism (and often outright bashing) against Mary Stayed Out All Night lately.

It doesn't really bother me - this is not the first time I liked a drama fandom didn't, and it won't be the last. But what really puzzles me is that there seems to be a huge overlap between people who hate MSOAN and people who adored You're Beautiful to bits. I find that confusing as all the criticisms applicable to Mary are doubly so to YAB and Mary has virtues YAB lacks.

So, let's take criticisms point by point.

Nonsensical plot - I will not argue Mary's plot is in any way realistic, even by kdrama standards. However, I'll take your "average girl ends in two fake marriages - one with icy chaebol heir and one with hippie musician" and raise you "trainee nun crossdresses as a man and joins a famous boyband." Seriously. In terms of insanity of plot, YAB takes the kdrama cake (even if it has to work hard to beat some jdrama examples of insanity).

Lack of strong story/narrative drive - Boy, do I have news for you! If you love complex plots, you really should not be watching romcoms, even ones much better made than Mary. There is this little revenge drama I want to introduce you to known as Mawang. It shall satisfy all your cravings and then some. This said, I won't be disingenuous and lie that Mary is the most tightly-written romcom out there (compare it with e.g. Secret Garden and the difference becomes obvious). BUT. That criticism is doubly applicable to YAB which was utterly plotless, completely fluffy and had no forward momentum or character development whatsoever and abysmally little conflict. Mary has had more plot, conflict and character development in its 9 eps so far than YAB did in its entire run.

Every character except for the OTP is poorly-written/not realistic - Hey, I'll be the first to agree it's fully a Maeri and Mugyul show. But let's look at YAB - the same is true for it as well, more so. Have you ever seen a person like Jeremy outside a manga? Or a nasty hungover nightmare at 2am? I thought so. The secondary guy in YAB is more like an outline of a character than an actual person. The edge definitely belongs to Mary's Jung In simply because Kim Jae Wook is a much better actor than Jung Yong Hwa and doing his darndest to make the character work. Joon is a lot more nuanced than one-note caricature that was Uee's character and I can't even remember the rest of the characters in YAB.

What Mary has that YAB did not is an amazing leading couple. Tae Kyung and Minam really did not work for me - in fact they raised every hackle I did not know I had. Their dynamic was off-putting - she worshipped him and he kindly allowed it. And this did not change until the end - nobody grew, nobody learned anything, not really. This is not the case in Mary. Maeri (who is not a helpless dishrag like Minam) and Mugyul are equals. They change and learn from one another.

I enjoyed the first half of YAB immensely but got fed up with it when I realized that was it - that was all it was ever going to be - it was never going to have conflict or plot or character growth. Park Shin Hye barely escaped my permanent dislike due to my loving her in other dramas, and I thought I was done with Jang Geun Seok for life, until Mary changed my opinion. MSOAN, on the other hand, has been a wonderful wonderful ride so far.

But ultimately, we could be here all day, with me proclaiming Mary's excellence and you claiming it's the worst drama you've seen. Rational arguments, after all, mask the true realization for me - it's about emotional connection, that switch that flips on and transforms you into someone invested in these fictional people, involved in their world. The best-written drama will not work for me if this switch does not flip. But I will love an admittedly-flawed one like Mary forever, once that switch goes on and the connection is made.
dangermousie: (Meteor Garden: love by _eyecatcher_101)
I have been seeing a lot of criticism (and often outright bashing) against Mary Stayed Out All Night lately.

It doesn't really bother me - this is not the first time I liked a drama fandom didn't, and it won't be the last. But what really puzzles me is that there seems to be a huge overlap between people who hate MSOAN and people who adored You're Beautiful to bits. I find that confusing as all the criticisms applicable to Mary are doubly so to YAB and Mary has virtues YAB lacks.

So, let's take criticisms point by point.

Nonsensical plot - I will not argue Mary's plot is in any way realistic, even by kdrama standards. However, I'll take your "average girl ends in two fake marriages - one with icy chaebol heir and one with hippie musician" and raise you "trainee nun crossdresses as a man and joins a famous boyband." Seriously. In terms of insanity of plot, YAB takes the kdrama cake (even if it has to work hard to beat some jdrama examples of insanity).

Lack of strong story/narrative drive - Boy, do I have news for you! If you love complex plots, you really should not be watching romcoms, even ones much better made than Mary. There is this little revenge drama I want to introduce you to known as Mawang. It shall satisfy all your cravings and then some. This said, I won't be disingenuous and lie that Mary is the most tightly-written romcom out there (compare it with e.g. Secret Garden and the difference becomes obvious). BUT. That criticism is doubly applicable to YAB which was utterly plotless, completely fluffy and had no forward momentum or character development whatsoever and abysmally little conflict. Mary has had more plot, conflict and character development in its 9 eps so far than YAB did in its entire run.

Every character except for the OTP is poorly-written/not realistic - Hey, I'll be the first to agree it's fully a Maeri and Mugyul show. But let's look at YAB - the same is true for it as well, more so. Have you ever seen a person like Jeremy outside a manga? Or a nasty hungover nightmare at 2am? I thought so. The secondary guy in YAB is more like an outline of a character than an actual person. The edge definitely belongs to Mary's Jung In simply because Kim Jae Wook is a much better actor than Jung Yong Hwa and doing his darndest to make the character work. Joon is a lot more nuanced than one-note caricature that was Uee's character and I can't even remember the rest of the characters in YAB.

What Mary has that YAB did not is an amazing leading couple. Tae Kyung and Minam really did not work for me - in fact they raised every hackle I did not know I had. Their dynamic was off-putting - she worshipped him and he kindly allowed it. And this did not change until the end - nobody grew, nobody learned anything, not really. This is not the case in Mary. Maeri (who is not a helpless dishrag like Minam) and Mugyul are equals. They change and learn from one another.

I enjoyed the first half of YAB immensely but got fed up with it when I realized that was it - that was all it was ever going to be - it was never going to have conflict or plot or character growth. Park Shin Hye barely escaped my permanent dislike due to my loving her in other dramas, and I thought I was done with Jang Geun Seok for life, until Mary changed my opinion. MSOAN, on the other hand, has been a wonderful wonderful ride so far.

But ultimately, we could be here all day, with me proclaiming Mary's excellence and you claiming it's the worst drama you've seen. Rational arguments, after all, mask the true realization for me - it's about emotional connection, that switch that flips on and transforms you into someone invested in these fictional people, involved in their world. The best-written drama will not work for me if this switch does not flip. But I will love an admittedly-flawed one like Mary forever, once that switch goes on and the connection is made.
dangermousie: (Meteor Garden: love by _eyecatcher_101)
I have been seeing a lot of criticism (and often outright bashing) against Mary Stayed Out All Night lately.

It doesn't really bother me - this is not the first time I liked a drama fandom didn't, and it won't be the last. But what really puzzles me is that there seems to be a huge overlap between people who hate MSOAN and people who adored You're Beautiful to bits. I find that confusing as all the criticisms applicable to Mary are doubly so to YAB and Mary has virtues YAB lacks.

So, let's take criticisms point by point.

Nonsensical plot - I will not argue Mary's plot is in any way realistic, even by kdrama standards. However, I'll take your "average girl ends in two fake marriages - one with icy chaebol heir and one with hippie musician" and raise you "trainee nun crossdresses as a man and joins a famous boyband." Seriously. In terms of insanity of plot, YAB takes the kdrama cake (even if it has to work hard to beat some jdrama examples of insanity).

Lack of strong story/narrative drive - Boy, do I have news for you! If you love complex plots, you really should not be watching romcoms, even ones much better made than Mary. There is this little revenge drama I want to introduce you to known as Mawang. It shall satisfy all your cravings and then some. This said, I won't be disingenuous and lie that Mary is the most tightly-written romcom out there (compare it with e.g. Secret Garden and the difference becomes obvious). BUT. That criticism is doubly applicable to YAB which was utterly plotless, completely fluffy and had no forward momentum or character development whatsoever and abysmally little conflict. Mary has had more plot, conflict and character development in its 9 eps so far than YAB did in its entire run.

Every character except for the OTP is poorly-written/not realistic - Hey, I'll be the first to agree it's fully a Maeri and Mugyul show. But let's look at YAB - the same is true for it as well, more so. Have you ever seen a person like Jeremy outside a manga? Or a nasty hungover nightmare at 2am? I thought so. The secondary guy in YAB is more like an outline of a character than an actual person. The edge definitely belongs to Mary's Jung In simply because Kim Jae Wook is a much better actor than Jung Yong Hwa and doing his darndest to make the character work. Joon is a lot more nuanced than one-note caricature that was Uee's character and I can't even remember the rest of the characters in YAB.

What Mary has that YAB did not is an amazing leading couple. Tae Kyung and Minam really did not work for me - in fact they raised every hackle I did not know I had. Their dynamic was off-putting - she worshipped him and he kindly allowed it. And this did not change until the end - nobody grew, nobody learned anything, not really. This is not the case in Mary. Maeri (who is not a helpless dishrag like Minam) and Mugyul are equals. They change and learn from one another.

I enjoyed the first half of YAB immensely but got fed up with it when I realized that was it - that was all it was ever going to be - it was never going to have conflict or plot or character growth. Park Shin Hye barely escaped my permanent dislike due to my loving her in other dramas, and I thought I was done with Jang Geun Seok for life, until Mary changed my opinion. MSOAN, on the other hand, has been a wonderful wonderful ride so far.

But ultimately, we could be here all day, with me proclaiming Mary's excellence and you claiming it's the worst drama you've seen. Rational arguments, after all, mask the true realization for me - it's about emotional connection, that switch that flips on and transforms you into someone invested in these fictional people, involved in their world. The best-written drama will not work for me if this switch does not flip. But I will love an admittedly-flawed one like Mary forever, once that switch goes on and the connection is made.
dangermousie: (TODAW kiss by bambinainnero)


Ta-da!

I have finally finished You're Beautiful. I got through 14 eps earlier and watched the ending but I am a completist (sort of) and now finished the two eps in-between.

Verdict: Still rather meh, but shockingly with distance from its crazy fandom I realized that I didn't hate it.

Pros:
* funny, fast-paced script with some hilarious parodies (IRIS, fanfics, music vids) and riffs.

* some delicious acting by its young cast - especially Jang Geun Seok as Tae Kyung the emo diva. There is no hormonal interest here for me - not only is he way too young, he's entirely not my type, but despite that he made TK an absolute delight to watch and made me want to watch his future dramas. Park Shin Hye made Minam adorable a lot longer than she should have been by rights, Uee was hilarious as a futile schemer. Jung Yong Hwa was suitably pretty and a better actor than his counterpart Kim Hyun Joong in BOF, Lee Hongki was hilarious. etc.

* I actually liked the soundtrack a lot. I like sugary sweet pop so this was up my alley.

* A fangirl fantasy of what it's like to be in a boyband :P

Cons:

* I think my loss of interest in the second half was correlated directly to its biggest con - there was not much conflict or plot and the second half was when I realized it. Nothing really much happened. Any potential conflict was speedily resolved, every potential for a dramatic moment or situation undercut. There wasn't a strong character development or conflict - it was 16 eps of basically unchanged people having fun, like a long charming skit. This would have been fine for a mini-drama - say 5 eps long - but for a 16 ep drama it felt very draggy - there was not enough there for 16 hours' worth of eps. Especially since if there is no strong plot, there have to be either strong character development or really complex characters and this had neither - how could it when by its genre it was a fluffy fun trifle? But even a fluffy fun trifle as written by the usually-awesome Hong Sisters is too long when it's 16 eps.

* Minam the Heroine - I don't mind silly heroines, nor do I mind helpless ones, or long-suffering saintly selfless ones. But a combination of all those is deadly. She was simply a heroine type I did not enjoy in the slightest. When I had hope she'd grow up and change I was OK, but once I realized it was not happening, the drama really started to bug me. Once again, this heroine lack wouldn't have been so bad if this had a strong plot - because then there would have been other things to concentrate on rather than Minam all the time. Or a shorter length would have helped - I only went into Minam overdose in the second half.

* Love story - I could buy Minam and Tae Kyung liking each other, I just couldn't buy it in the long-term - that they would truly last or that there wasn't someone more compatible for them out there. I never really bought into the romance and that's a huge hurdle for a romcom.

* Taking their climax directly from "A Star In My Heart." That's just not on.

Extraneous factors that probably affected my reaction negatively:

To be fair, these factors had nothing to do with YAB, but they are responsible for contributing to me being perhaps harsher to it than I should have been:

* I am simply too old for this type of drama. I am possibly closer in age (though barely :P) to the characters' parents than the characters. Certainly closer in my place in life. So I am very much not the target audience. I have learned my lesson and now avoid teen dramas.

* The rabid teenybopper YAB fanbase. I probably wouldn't have become a rabid YAB worshipper in any event (due to the above-mentioned reasons) but I confess I would have liked it much better if it wasn't for the fanbase which repeatedly proclaimed it the best drama ever made, most complex characters ever made, bashed any dramas which either competed with it in the ratings (IRIS), had the temerity to follow in in the time slot (Will it snow on Christmas), or had the audacity not to be YAB (too many dramas to name). They also demonstrated a cult-like defensiveness which did not endear them either. I am sorry, YAB! I shouldn't have let some crazy fans influence me! Mea culpa.

Conclusion: A fun if not too-memorable trifle which would have worked better with shorter length (or possibly a quick marathon without too much time to think between eps) but had some delicious scenes and moments.
dangermousie: (TODAW kiss by bambinainnero)


Ta-da!

I have finally finished You're Beautiful. I got through 14 eps earlier and watched the ending but I am a completist (sort of) and now finished the two eps in-between.

Verdict: Still rather meh, but shockingly with distance from its crazy fandom I realized that I didn't hate it.

Pros:
* funny, fast-paced script with some hilarious parodies (IRIS, fanfics, music vids) and riffs.

* some delicious acting by its young cast - especially Jang Geun Seok as Tae Kyung the emo diva. There is no hormonal interest here for me - not only is he way too young, he's entirely not my type, but despite that he made TK an absolute delight to watch and made me want to watch his future dramas. Park Shin Hye made Minam adorable a lot longer than she should have been by rights, Uee was hilarious as a futile schemer. Jung Yong Hwa was suitably pretty and a better actor than his counterpart Kim Hyun Joong in BOF, Lee Hongki was hilarious. etc.

* I actually liked the soundtrack a lot. I like sugary sweet pop so this was up my alley.

* A fangirl fantasy of what it's like to be in a boyband :P

Cons:

* I think my loss of interest in the second half was correlated directly to its biggest con - there was not much conflict or plot and the second half was when I realized it. Nothing really much happened. Any potential conflict was speedily resolved, every potential for a dramatic moment or situation undercut. There wasn't a strong character development or conflict - it was 16 eps of basically unchanged people having fun, like a long charming skit. This would have been fine for a mini-drama - say 5 eps long - but for a 16 ep drama it felt very draggy - there was not enough there for 16 hours' worth of eps. Especially since if there is no strong plot, there have to be either strong character development or really complex characters and this had neither - how could it when by its genre it was a fluffy fun trifle? But even a fluffy fun trifle as written by the usually-awesome Hong Sisters is too long when it's 16 eps.

* Minam the Heroine - I don't mind silly heroines, nor do I mind helpless ones, or long-suffering saintly selfless ones. But a combination of all those is deadly. She was simply a heroine type I did not enjoy in the slightest. When I had hope she'd grow up and change I was OK, but once I realized it was not happening, the drama really started to bug me. Once again, this heroine lack wouldn't have been so bad if this had a strong plot - because then there would have been other things to concentrate on rather than Minam all the time. Or a shorter length would have helped - I only went into Minam overdose in the second half.

* Love story - I could buy Minam and Tae Kyung liking each other, I just couldn't buy it in the long-term - that they would truly last or that there wasn't someone more compatible for them out there. I never really bought into the romance and that's a huge hurdle for a romcom.

* Taking their climax directly from "A Star In My Heart." That's just not on.

Extraneous factors that probably affected my reaction negatively:

To be fair, these factors had nothing to do with YAB, but they are responsible for contributing to me being perhaps harsher to it than I should have been:

* I am simply too old for this type of drama. I am possibly closer in age (though barely :P) to the characters' parents than the characters. Certainly closer in my place in life. So I am very much not the target audience. I have learned my lesson and now avoid teen dramas.

* The rabid teenybopper YAB fanbase. I probably wouldn't have become a rabid YAB worshipper in any event (due to the above-mentioned reasons) but I confess I would have liked it much better if it wasn't for the fanbase which repeatedly proclaimed it the best drama ever made, most complex characters ever made, bashed any dramas which either competed with it in the ratings (IRIS), had the temerity to follow in in the time slot (Will it snow on Christmas), or had the audacity not to be YAB (too many dramas to name). They also demonstrated a cult-like defensiveness which did not endear them either. I am sorry, YAB! I shouldn't have let some crazy fans influence me! Mea culpa.

Conclusion: A fun if not too-memorable trifle which would have worked better with shorter length (or possibly a quick marathon without too much time to think between eps) but had some delicious scenes and moments.
dangermousie: (TODAW kiss by bambinainnero)


Ta-da!

I have finally finished You're Beautiful. I got through 14 eps earlier and watched the ending but I am a completist (sort of) and now finished the two eps in-between.

Verdict: Still rather meh, but shockingly with distance from its crazy fandom I realized that I didn't hate it.

Pros:
* funny, fast-paced script with some hilarious parodies (IRIS, fanfics, music vids) and riffs.

* some delicious acting by its young cast - especially Jang Geun Seok as Tae Kyung the emo diva. There is no hormonal interest here for me - not only is he way too young, he's entirely not my type, but despite that he made TK an absolute delight to watch and made me want to watch his future dramas. Park Shin Hye made Minam adorable a lot longer than she should have been by rights, Uee was hilarious as a futile schemer. Jung Yong Hwa was suitably pretty and a better actor than his counterpart Kim Hyun Joong in BOF, Lee Hongki was hilarious. etc.

* I actually liked the soundtrack a lot. I like sugary sweet pop so this was up my alley.

* A fangirl fantasy of what it's like to be in a boyband :P

Cons:

* I think my loss of interest in the second half was correlated directly to its biggest con - there was not much conflict or plot and the second half was when I realized it. Nothing really much happened. Any potential conflict was speedily resolved, every potential for a dramatic moment or situation undercut. There wasn't a strong character development or conflict - it was 16 eps of basically unchanged people having fun, like a long charming skit. This would have been fine for a mini-drama - say 5 eps long - but for a 16 ep drama it felt very draggy - there was not enough there for 16 hours' worth of eps. Especially since if there is no strong plot, there have to be either strong character development or really complex characters and this had neither - how could it when by its genre it was a fluffy fun trifle? But even a fluffy fun trifle as written by the usually-awesome Hong Sisters is too long when it's 16 eps.

* Minam the Heroine - I don't mind silly heroines, nor do I mind helpless ones, or long-suffering saintly selfless ones. But a combination of all those is deadly. She was simply a heroine type I did not enjoy in the slightest. When I had hope she'd grow up and change I was OK, but once I realized it was not happening, the drama really started to bug me. Once again, this heroine lack wouldn't have been so bad if this had a strong plot - because then there would have been other things to concentrate on rather than Minam all the time. Or a shorter length would have helped - I only went into Minam overdose in the second half.

* Love story - I could buy Minam and Tae Kyung liking each other, I just couldn't buy it in the long-term - that they would truly last or that there wasn't someone more compatible for them out there. I never really bought into the romance and that's a huge hurdle for a romcom.

* Taking their climax directly from "A Star In My Heart." That's just not on.

Extraneous factors that probably affected my reaction negatively:

To be fair, these factors had nothing to do with YAB, but they are responsible for contributing to me being perhaps harsher to it than I should have been:

* I am simply too old for this type of drama. I am possibly closer in age (though barely :P) to the characters' parents than the characters. Certainly closer in my place in life. So I am very much not the target audience. I have learned my lesson and now avoid teen dramas.

* The rabid teenybopper YAB fanbase. I probably wouldn't have become a rabid YAB worshipper in any event (due to the above-mentioned reasons) but I confess I would have liked it much better if it wasn't for the fanbase which repeatedly proclaimed it the best drama ever made, most complex characters ever made, bashed any dramas which either competed with it in the ratings (IRIS), had the temerity to follow in in the time slot (Will it snow on Christmas), or had the audacity not to be YAB (too many dramas to name). They also demonstrated a cult-like defensiveness which did not endear them either. I am sorry, YAB! I shouldn't have let some crazy fans influence me! Mea culpa.

Conclusion: A fun if not too-memorable trifle which would have worked better with shorter length (or possibly a quick marathon without too much time to think between eps) but had some delicious scenes and moments.
dangermousie: (Fruits Basket: Haru by meganbmoore)
OK, You're Beautiful, I didn't care much for you one way or another but you did not invoke active rage.

Until now.

I have just started watching the uber-famous, classic 1997 kdrama Star In My Heart (also known as Wish Upon a Star). I love it to bits and should make a separate post about it.

Being me, I went to youtube to look up various vids. Guess what I found:



Look familiar? Oh YES. Isn't it shocking? YAB stole this scene basically bit-for-bit for its climax.

Pardon my language but THE FUCK?!?!

It would be one thing if it did it in an ironic, 'see us make a reference, aren't we cute?' fashion but naaaaaah.

Rage. RAGE. RAAAAAGE. They didn't just take elements but basically borrowed the entire thing whole-hog. I bet its little fangirls thought it was so touching and original. Just like the pool scene in BOF stolen from Lovers in Paris.

Made worse by the fact that YAB is forgettable at best and Star was a total phenom and a drama that I am currently madly in love with. Oh, and also? Yun Hee, the heroine of Star? Is tough and smart and grown-up - in my favorite scene, a drunk thug tries to drag her off to dance, and she slugs him, then when she and the hero (who helped her to extricate herself) run off to hide from the thugs, and he asks her why she told him earlier she was with a guy (as that little fracas demonstrated she clearly wasn't), she grins and tells him he looked like a player so she lied. And walks off. How dare they preempt her awesome for the disgusting wimpiness of Minam?

Not to mention inspiration is one thing but outright copying? THE HELL.

You are totally unworthy to copy one second of it, ugh ugh ugh.
dangermousie: (Fruits Basket: Haru by meganbmoore)
OK, You're Beautiful, I didn't care much for you one way or another but you did not invoke active rage.

Until now.

I have just started watching the uber-famous, classic 1997 kdrama Star In My Heart (also known as Wish Upon a Star). I love it to bits and should make a separate post about it.

Being me, I went to youtube to look up various vids. Guess what I found:



Look familiar? Oh YES. Isn't it shocking? YAB stole this scene basically bit-for-bit for its climax.

Pardon my language but THE FUCK?!?!

It would be one thing if it did it in an ironic, 'see us make a reference, aren't we cute?' fashion but naaaaaah.

Rage. RAGE. RAAAAAGE. They didn't just take elements but basically borrowed the entire thing whole-hog. I bet its little fangirls thought it was so touching and original. Just like the pool scene in BOF stolen from Lovers in Paris.

Made worse by the fact that YAB is forgettable at best and Star was a total phenom and a drama that I am currently madly in love with. Oh, and also? Yun Hee, the heroine of Star? Is tough and smart and grown-up - in my favorite scene, a drunk thug tries to drag her off to dance, and she slugs him, then when she and the hero (who helped her to extricate herself) run off to hide from the thugs, and he asks her why she told him earlier she was with a guy (as that little fracas demonstrated she clearly wasn't), she grins and tells him he looked like a player so she lied. And walks off. How dare they preempt her awesome for the disgusting wimpiness of Minam?

Not to mention inspiration is one thing but outright copying? THE HELL.

You are totally unworthy to copy one second of it, ugh ugh ugh.
dangermousie: (Fruits Basket: Haru by meganbmoore)
OK, You're Beautiful, I didn't care much for you one way or another but you did not invoke active rage.

Until now.

I have just started watching the uber-famous, classic 1997 kdrama Star In My Heart (also known as Wish Upon a Star). I love it to bits and should make a separate post about it.

Being me, I went to youtube to look up various vids. Guess what I found:



Look familiar? Oh YES. Isn't it shocking? YAB stole this scene basically bit-for-bit for its climax.

Pardon my language but THE FUCK?!?!

It would be one thing if it did it in an ironic, 'see us make a reference, aren't we cute?' fashion but naaaaaah.

Rage. RAGE. RAAAAAGE. They didn't just take elements but basically borrowed the entire thing whole-hog. I bet its little fangirls thought it was so touching and original. Just like the pool scene in BOF stolen from Lovers in Paris.

Made worse by the fact that YAB is forgettable at best and Star was a total phenom and a drama that I am currently madly in love with. Oh, and also? Yun Hee, the heroine of Star? Is tough and smart and grown-up - in my favorite scene, a drunk thug tries to drag her off to dance, and she slugs him, then when she and the hero (who helped her to extricate herself) run off to hide from the thugs, and he asks her why she told him earlier she was with a guy (as that little fracas demonstrated she clearly wasn't), she grins and tells him he looked like a player so she lied. And walks off. How dare they preempt her awesome for the disgusting wimpiness of Minam?

Not to mention inspiration is one thing but outright copying? THE HELL.

You are totally unworthy to copy one second of it, ugh ugh ugh.

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