dangermousie: (Goong beach by autumn_yaar)
Ahahahahahahahahaha. Apparently there is a ship on Gossip Girl abbreviated/smooshed to "Chair." LOL.

You know, I was thinking why American TV shows about overprivileged twits drive me so off the wall that I can't even stand to watch them: 90210, Gossip Girl, the OC (I wanted a bloody revolution to get the heads of all the OC characters) but a lot of dramas with rich protagonists work for me. And I realized the difference:

1. No drama is set solely in the richie-rich world. In fact, if Hero (or Heroine) is rich, it means their love interest will be poor, thus creating a lot of class issues (addressed explicitly), conflict, and angst.

2. If a drama hero is rich, he is usually either a socially-conscious, hard-working, nice (if sometimes socially challenged) person who is earning his keep even if he came from a well-off family, thus not anyone I would have anything against (e.g. hero of kdrama My Girl or Beautiful Days or Winter Sonata or jdrama Kareinaru Ichizoku), or a self-made person (like various 'star' heroes and heroines of a number of dramas), thus once again not someone I have anything against, or:

3. In the rare event the rich person is not nice and/or not hard-working, he or she has some real problems to deal with: Shin in Goong might appear a jerk to Chae-Gyung, but not only is he conscientious about his duties, he really has a family from hell. Domyouji is not only a figure of fun (he is part hero, part comic relief) but he gets a small truck-full of angst dumped on him (and the less said about his family, the better). And Jae-Min from What Happened in Bali is a dysfunctional mess but his family is not only horrifying, they are literally abusive. The heroine of Snow Queen starts out as a brittle, high-maintenance bitch, but she is chronically and severely ill and has been since childhood and is coping with a fractured, dysfunctional family.

So basically, I have no problem if the rich protagonist has some serious problem to deal with: awful family, significant other who is loathed by his folks, financial struggles, drama desease for his OTP (or in case of Beautiful Days, all four at once). That's fine. But if all they do is wallow in wealth and we are supposed to care about their shallow problems, I am out.

Perhaps it helps that with the exception of Hana Yori Dango, all the rich protagonists of dramas that I can think of are out of high school and are earning their living or functioning the best they could in a grown-up world (i wouldn't put Goong as the other exception because despite the fact that Shin et al are in high school they are saddled up to here with grown-up duties and ceremonial roles). They don't have as much time to mope around uselessly.
dangermousie: (Goong beach by autumn_yaar)
Ahahahahahahahahaha. Apparently there is a ship on Gossip Girl abbreviated/smooshed to "Chair." LOL.

You know, I was thinking why American TV shows about overprivileged twits drive me so off the wall that I can't even stand to watch them: 90210, Gossip Girl, the OC (I wanted a bloody revolution to get the heads of all the OC characters) but a lot of dramas with rich protagonists work for me. And I realized the difference:

1. No drama is set solely in the richie-rich world. In fact, if Hero (or Heroine) is rich, it means their love interest will be poor, thus creating a lot of class issues (addressed explicitly), conflict, and angst.

2. If a drama hero is rich, he is usually either a socially-conscious, hard-working, nice (if sometimes socially challenged) person who is earning his keep even if he came from a well-off family, thus not anyone I would have anything against (e.g. hero of kdrama My Girl or Beautiful Days or Winter Sonata or jdrama Kareinaru Ichizoku), or a self-made person (like various 'star' heroes and heroines of a number of dramas), thus once again not someone I have anything against, or:

3. In the rare event the rich person is not nice and/or not hard-working, he or she has some real problems to deal with: Shin in Goong might appear a jerk to Chae-Gyung, but not only is he conscientious about his duties, he really has a family from hell. Domyouji is not only a figure of fun (he is part hero, part comic relief) but he gets a small truck-full of angst dumped on him (and the less said about his family, the better). And Jae-Min from What Happened in Bali is a dysfunctional mess but his family is not only horrifying, they are literally abusive. The heroine of Snow Queen starts out as a brittle, high-maintenance bitch, but she is chronically and severely ill and has been since childhood and is coping with a fractured, dysfunctional family.

So basically, I have no problem if the rich protagonist has some serious problem to deal with: awful family, significant other who is loathed by his folks, financial struggles, drama desease for his OTP (or in case of Beautiful Days, all four at once). That's fine. But if all they do is wallow in wealth and we are supposed to care about their shallow problems, I am out.

Perhaps it helps that with the exception of Hana Yori Dango, all the rich protagonists of dramas that I can think of are out of high school and are earning their living or functioning the best they could in a grown-up world (i wouldn't put Goong as the other exception because despite the fact that Shin et al are in high school they are saddled up to here with grown-up duties and ceremonial roles). They don't have as much time to mope around uselessly.
dangermousie: (Goong beach by autumn_yaar)
Ahahahahahahahahaha. Apparently there is a ship on Gossip Girl abbreviated/smooshed to "Chair." LOL.

You know, I was thinking why American TV shows about overprivileged twits drive me so off the wall that I can't even stand to watch them: 90210, Gossip Girl, the OC (I wanted a bloody revolution to get the heads of all the OC characters) but a lot of dramas with rich protagonists work for me. And I realized the difference:

1. No drama is set solely in the richie-rich world. In fact, if Hero (or Heroine) is rich, it means their love interest will be poor, thus creating a lot of class issues (addressed explicitly), conflict, and angst.

2. If a drama hero is rich, he is usually either a socially-conscious, hard-working, nice (if sometimes socially challenged) person who is earning his keep even if he came from a well-off family, thus not anyone I would have anything against (e.g. hero of kdrama My Girl or Beautiful Days or Winter Sonata or jdrama Kareinaru Ichizoku), or a self-made person (like various 'star' heroes and heroines of a number of dramas), thus once again not someone I have anything against, or:

3. In the rare event the rich person is not nice and/or not hard-working, he or she has some real problems to deal with: Shin in Goong might appear a jerk to Chae-Gyung, but not only is he conscientious about his duties, he really has a family from hell. Domyouji is not only a figure of fun (he is part hero, part comic relief) but he gets a small truck-full of angst dumped on him (and the less said about his family, the better). And Jae-Min from What Happened in Bali is a dysfunctional mess but his family is not only horrifying, they are literally abusive. The heroine of Snow Queen starts out as a brittle, high-maintenance bitch, but she is chronically and severely ill and has been since childhood and is coping with a fractured, dysfunctional family.

So basically, I have no problem if the rich protagonist has some serious problem to deal with: awful family, significant other who is loathed by his folks, financial struggles, drama desease for his OTP (or in case of Beautiful Days, all four at once). That's fine. But if all they do is wallow in wealth and we are supposed to care about their shallow problems, I am out.

Perhaps it helps that with the exception of Hana Yori Dango, all the rich protagonists of dramas that I can think of are out of high school and are earning their living or functioning the best they could in a grown-up world (i wouldn't put Goong as the other exception because despite the fact that Shin et al are in high school they are saddled up to here with grown-up duties and ceremonial roles). They don't have as much time to mope around uselessly.
dangermousie: (BW: Lagaan ORC1 by chalkare)
You know what I don't buy? In real life, Ryan seeing the amazing life of luxury these people live, and how far removed it is from his own poverty-stricken existence, and knowing he has to go back to the same p.s.e. would make him really consider the unfairness, give him envy, anger and an attitude. Heck, not even Polyanna would feel satisfied with her life after such a contrast.

He'll end up wondering why those kids should have stuff when he doesn't, just because of genetic lottery. Even if it's going to be an inchoate 'I wish I had this junk' train of thought.

He'll be either breaking in to steal stuff, join the Communist party and want to sack the places, or become materialistically obsessed in a more capitalist way and deal drugs (to those same richie riches) to support his lux craving.

OK?

I am also amused at the fact that Ryan is so white white white. Wouldn't it be more interesting (and believable) to have him be Black or Hispanic? As opposed to looking like every other OCer? Making the culture clash more real?

Plus, seriously, I am getting rentboy vibes. I think it's impossible for one man to tie another one's (when the other one is all pretty and young) without triggering those.

Also, Seth is so annoying I want him to die. And I like Marissa. Actually (and I am about to forfeit any accumulated coolness points), but I rather like Ryan/Marissa. Because I know how it ends and I dig angst. Clearly I am a mutant. But with a socialist consciousness :P
dangermousie: (BW: Lagaan ORC1 by chalkare)
You know what I don't buy? In real life, Ryan seeing the amazing life of luxury these people live, and how far removed it is from his own poverty-stricken existence, and knowing he has to go back to the same p.s.e. would make him really consider the unfairness, give him envy, anger and an attitude. Heck, not even Polyanna would feel satisfied with her life after such a contrast.

He'll end up wondering why those kids should have stuff when he doesn't, just because of genetic lottery. Even if it's going to be an inchoate 'I wish I had this junk' train of thought.

He'll be either breaking in to steal stuff, join the Communist party and want to sack the places, or become materialistically obsessed in a more capitalist way and deal drugs (to those same richie riches) to support his lux craving.

OK?

I am also amused at the fact that Ryan is so white white white. Wouldn't it be more interesting (and believable) to have him be Black or Hispanic? As opposed to looking like every other OCer? Making the culture clash more real?

Plus, seriously, I am getting rentboy vibes. I think it's impossible for one man to tie another one's (when the other one is all pretty and young) without triggering those.

Also, Seth is so annoying I want him to die. And I like Marissa. Actually (and I am about to forfeit any accumulated coolness points), but I rather like Ryan/Marissa. Because I know how it ends and I dig angst. Clearly I am a mutant. But with a socialist consciousness :P
dangermousie: (BW: Lagaan ORC1 by chalkare)
You know what I don't buy? In real life, Ryan seeing the amazing life of luxury these people live, and how far removed it is from his own poverty-stricken existence, and knowing he has to go back to the same p.s.e. would make him really consider the unfairness, give him envy, anger and an attitude. Heck, not even Polyanna would feel satisfied with her life after such a contrast.

He'll end up wondering why those kids should have stuff when he doesn't, just because of genetic lottery. Even if it's going to be an inchoate 'I wish I had this junk' train of thought.

He'll be either breaking in to steal stuff, join the Communist party and want to sack the places, or become materialistically obsessed in a more capitalist way and deal drugs (to those same richie riches) to support his lux craving.

OK?

I am also amused at the fact that Ryan is so white white white. Wouldn't it be more interesting (and believable) to have him be Black or Hispanic? As opposed to looking like every other OCer? Making the culture clash more real?

Plus, seriously, I am getting rentboy vibes. I think it's impossible for one man to tie another one's (when the other one is all pretty and young) without triggering those.

Also, Seth is so annoying I want him to die. And I like Marissa. Actually (and I am about to forfeit any accumulated coolness points), but I rather like Ryan/Marissa. Because I know how it ends and I dig angst. Clearly I am a mutant. But with a socialist consciousness :P
dangermousie: (Balian by angel_elf_icons)
I started watching the pilot of The O.C., and why didn't anyone tellme about this before? It's totally frakking fun. It's an utter soap, but such an entertaining one. It reminds me of a much more upscale (and better acted, not that it's hard) One Tree Hill, and we all know how atrociously entertaining I find OTH. Basically, it fixes everything that annoyed me about Dawson's Creek: hot angsty guys? Check. Absence of pretentious, mile-a-minute-narcissist Dawson? Check. Soapy goodness of a plot? Check. No crazy cult wives? Check. (Though I haven't gotten to Marissa yet).

Plus, whoever plays Ryan is very hot. And full of angst. Kinda like a younger Russell Crowe. I like my men with testosterone. Heck, who am I kidding? I just like my men :P

So we shall see how it progresses.
dangermousie: (Balian by angel_elf_icons)
I started watching the pilot of The O.C., and why didn't anyone tellme about this before? It's totally frakking fun. It's an utter soap, but such an entertaining one. It reminds me of a much more upscale (and better acted, not that it's hard) One Tree Hill, and we all know how atrociously entertaining I find OTH. Basically, it fixes everything that annoyed me about Dawson's Creek: hot angsty guys? Check. Absence of pretentious, mile-a-minute-narcissist Dawson? Check. Soapy goodness of a plot? Check. No crazy cult wives? Check. (Though I haven't gotten to Marissa yet).

Plus, whoever plays Ryan is very hot. And full of angst. Kinda like a younger Russell Crowe. I like my men with testosterone. Heck, who am I kidding? I just like my men :P

So we shall see how it progresses.
dangermousie: (Balian by angel_elf_icons)
I started watching the pilot of The O.C., and why didn't anyone tellme about this before? It's totally frakking fun. It's an utter soap, but such an entertaining one. It reminds me of a much more upscale (and better acted, not that it's hard) One Tree Hill, and we all know how atrociously entertaining I find OTH. Basically, it fixes everything that annoyed me about Dawson's Creek: hot angsty guys? Check. Absence of pretentious, mile-a-minute-narcissist Dawson? Check. Soapy goodness of a plot? Check. No crazy cult wives? Check. (Though I haven't gotten to Marissa yet).

Plus, whoever plays Ryan is very hot. And full of angst. Kinda like a younger Russell Crowe. I like my men with testosterone. Heck, who am I kidding? I just like my men :P

So we shall see how it progresses.

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